EVE Search - Will flying thorugh planets/stations ever be addressed?

All Channels

EVE General Discussion

Will flying thorugh planets/stations ever be addressed?

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: [1] 2 :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Neo Omni Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.30 20:46:00 - [1] Will an actual collision detection scheme ever be implemented in EVE?
Jack Knof	Posted - 2011.03.30 20:52:00 - [2] You need to read up on warp theory.
Neo Omni Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.30 20:52:00 - [3] Edited by: Neo Omni on 30/03/2011 20:54:36 Originally by: Jack Knof You need to read up on warp theory. That's just BS for (we cant fix it) by CCP. What next? "Lag" is actually a natural spacial anomaly and is to be expected?
Xercodo Amarr Daj'Juntar	Posted - 2011.03.30 20:54:00 - [4] Edited by: Xercodo on 30/03/2011 20:57:30 Edited by: Xercodo on 30/03/2011 20:57:16 yup, working as intended i cant wait for the rage when a newb blows up cause he warped thru a celestial....or cause he got killed cause he couldnt warp cause Aura said "Can't let you do that, there is stuffz thar" or how bout when Destiny rips EVE inside out trying to calculate the forces involved from hitting a planet liek that and we'll get interstellar pinball -------------------------------------------------- The drake is a lie
LHA Tarawa	Posted - 2011.03.30 20:55:00 - [5] Originally by: Neo Omni Will an actual collision detection scheme ever be implemented in EVE? 1) this is a total non-issue. 2) SOOOO many more important things to work on.
Teranul	Posted - 2011.03.30 20:56:00 - [6] I, for one, would quite welcome a dynamic parabolic warp route that used gravitational phenomena (i.e. planetse and stars) properly. But yes, it's not really that important...
Neo Omni Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.30 21:01:00 - [7] Originally by: LHA Tarawa Originally by: Neo Omni Will an actual collision detection scheme ever be implemented in EVE? 1) this is a total non-issue. 2) SOOOO many more important things to work on. IMMERSION is important. Hard to get into it when you are flying through planets, ships and stations. Talk about sub-par programming, and all you EVE/CCP apologist just keep enabling it. Guess you love the crappy coding.
Carver DiGriz Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2011.03.30 21:07:00 - [8] :/ Not for nothing, but you kind of post a great deal in the forums for a game I thought you stated you were leaving. this link still stands up.
Xercodo Amarr Daj'Juntar	Posted - 2011.03.30 21:08:00 - [9] Originally by: Neo Omni Originally by: LHA Tarawa Originally by: Neo Omni Will an actual collision detection scheme ever be implemented in EVE? 1) this is a total non-issue. 2) SOOOO many more important things to work on. IMMERSION is important. Hard to get into it when you are flying through planets, ships and stations. Talk about sub-par programming, and all you EVE/CCP apologist just keep enabling it. Guess you love the crappy coding. its not crappy coding... obviously it works or we wouldn't have ppl whining about being killed from being hung up on a acc gate or a asteroid... the collision system is purposely turned off to allow warping cause in the few cases where you DO warp thru things it would totally ruin ur day (depending on what the response to a warp thru a celestial might entail) if you want immersion then wait for Incarna, that and i MUCH rather support CCP moving the planets and stations along their orbits just a bit so that these cases dont happen in the first place, but i still agree that amoungst other things that are "wrong" with the game, this is the least of our issues -------------------------------------------------- The drake is a lie
Kara Sharalien Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2011.03.30 21:10:00 - [10] LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE CARING! QUICKLY, OR YOU WILL MISS THEM!
Bud Tugly Empire Arms Dealers	Posted - 2011.03.30 21:13:00 - [11] According to modern theoretical physics, it is entirely possible for the different universes to by governed by different laws of physics. This would explain the EVE universe. This is why the ether of space appears to be a liquid and our ships movement is similar to that of a submarine here on Earth. And for reasons unexplainable by me, it allows our warp bubble to pass through solid objects.
Jovan Geldon Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2011.03.30 21:17:00 - [12] Originally by: Carver DiGriz :/ Not for nothing, but you kind of post a great deal in the forums for a game I thought you stated you were leaving. this link still stands up. This. Hurry up and sod off already.
Neo Omni Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.30 21:19:00 - [13] Edited by: Neo Omni on 30/03/2011 21:19:14 Originally by: Jovan Geldon Originally by: Carver DiGriz :/ Not for nothing, but you kind of post a great deal in the forums for a game I thought you stated you were leaving. this link still stands up. This. Hurry up and sod off already. I know the truth hurts for a lot of you eve fanbois...but it's still the truth whether I post it or not. Just fix the freakin game already so there's actually something to brag about for once.
Xercodo Amarr Daj'Juntar	Posted - 2011.03.30 21:21:00 - [14] Edited by: Xercodo on 30/03/2011 21:21:37 Originally by: Neo Omni Edited by: Neo Omni on 30/03/2011 21:19:14 Originally by: Jovan Geldon Originally by: Carver DiGriz :/ Not for nothing, but you kind of post a great deal in the forums for a game I thought you stated you were leaving. this link still stands up. This. Hurry up and sod off already. I know the truth hurts for a lot of you eve fanbois...but it's still the truth whether I post it or not. Just fix the freakin game already so there's actually something to brag about for once. that you left? oh wai... -------------------------------------------------- The drake is a lie
Kara Sharalien Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2011.03.30 21:25:00 - [15] Originally by: Neo Omni Hey guys I'm not actually quitting because I really rather like the game, but think its cool to threaten to do so because I labor under the false impression that the devs give a ** if I in particular choose to quit over something as ****ed as my OP Well, admitting it is the first step.
Mercan Gallen	Posted - 2011.03.30 22:05:00 - [16] Warp bubble takes you "out of phase" with the rest of space. Think of it as opening a tunnel through a hillside and then closing it behind you. Hence you pass "through" objects. It's this advanced technology that makes any serious space travel possible. Without it you'd have to constantly dog-leg around planets, moons, stations, asteroids, etc. If there was and decent sized piece of space junk in the way of your warp (like a ship for instance), you'd be dead. So without the ability to create a "warp bubble" you'd just have to slow-boat everywhere under "impluse drive" power. If you want to ***** about "merging" with other ships when undocking from a station... well fair enough I'm sure. Except however it'd make it impossible for more than one ship to undock at a time (due to constant bumpage), and you'd have to wait for the previous ship to clear the undock area before the station let you out. Possibly stations could have multiple udock points (which would make sense), but even then you'd be queuing to leave in any system with a high number of pilots and only a few stations (Jita 4-4 anyone?). Not to mention the drama of aggression/insta-warps/station camping/etc. It'd change the whole game. There'd have to be a "towed away from the undock" thing like you get when you're docking or else people would just sit there and grief it up. Gameplay practicality > immersion? I think so.
Jim Luc Caldari Rule of Five Split Infinity.	Posted - 2011.03.30 22:22:00 - [17] Heh, for those of you saying it's "realistic" to warp through a station or planet: 'splosions don't happen in space in real life either. I for one would like them to implement a bezier warp system, so a route is plotted from point A to point B, which navigates around under and over the large obstacles. Need to warp somewhere that's directly behind a station or planet? Instead of aligning directly through the station, it plots a path around the station's sphere via the closest direction based on your current location. It would be a rather simple calculation I would think. This way it will be a really cool effect while you're in warp, gliding around and through the celestial objects in a system. I'd also like to see a gravitational system put into place. The ability to slingshot around a planet would be cool, especially in a speed-frigate! Think of the battle tactics that would open up!
Bevil Smyth Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.03.30 22:26:00 - [18] iirc there was a dev that said that it was indeed possible for them to do this, but with the number of warps per second in the game with the server having to calculate each, it would a) add uneeded load b) take you longer to get into warp so they didnt do it. what i would like to see is some kind of visual effect that just masks the mingy looking bit where you fly thro the geometry of planets and stations and it looks ****. ============================ 2003 and still alive!
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2011.03.30 22:27:00 - [19] Well some clever liniear math can solve the warp though planets and stations or any other major object to lead to some cool tranisitions. However collision damage and the sort is a bad idea, a rock the size of a dime will ruin your day. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 26FEB11
Neo Omni Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.30 22:28:00 - [20] Edited by: Neo Omni on 30/03/2011 22:29:11 Originally by: Bevil Smyth what i would like to see is some kind of visual effect that just masks the mingy looking bit where you fly thro the geometry of planets and stations and it looks ****. +1 Now you're talking. That would improve things alot. An opaque warp tunnel of sorts.
Vincent Athena	Posted - 2011.03.30 22:30:00 - [21] In one episode of "Stargate" they warped an asteroid directly through the earth. So its already been established in the SiFi arena that warp drive can go "through" things. No need for CCP to change the game.
Krasnij Okjabre the united	Posted - 2011.03.30 22:31:00 - [22] Originally by: Jack Knof You need to read up on warp theory. This tbh. Kras.
Neo Omni Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.30 22:37:00 - [23] Originally by: Vincent Athena In one episode of "Stargate" they warped an asteroid directly through the earth. So its already been established in the SiFi arena that warp drive can go "through" things. No need for CCP to change the game. In that case i want to use THE FORCE against my enemies in EVE.
theocratis	Posted - 2011.03.30 22:46:00 - [24] Originally by: Neo Omni Edited by: Neo Omni on 30/03/2011 22:37:24 Originally by: Vincent Athena In one episode of "Stargate" they warped an asteroid directly through the earth. So its already been established in the SiFi arena that warp drive can go "through" things. No need for CCP to change the game. In that case i want to use THE FORCE against my enemies in EVE. As you say, it has been established. It's called Electronic Warfare.
Corina's Bodyguard	Posted - 2011.03.30 22:46:00 - [25] Edited by: Corina''s Bodyguard on 30/03/2011 22:46:41 The force has not been established in EVE, whereas warp drive has, and the technical mentionings of warp drive in EVE is consistent with general sci-fi warp drive. Therefore, it is foolish to consider the outside aspects of the force, while quite reasonable to consider outside aspects of warp drive. Anyway, until CCP makes a statement otherwise, the fact that we can warp through things in game means we can warp through things IU. Edit: EWAR
Vincent Athena	Posted - 2011.03.30 22:53:00 - [26] Its been established as mechanic that can be used, not a mechanic that must be used. For example in Star Trek (the series, not the game) they do not warp through planets. When you make a new SiFi world, take what you want, make up the rest, try to be internally consistent. Given the history of mechanics used in SiFi, saying that EVE's version of warp can go through planets is acceptable.
Jaci Johanna	Posted - 2011.03.30 22:56:00 - [27] Edited by: Jaci Johanna on 30/03/2011 22:57:13 This is a fit and finish issue that has always bothered me. I noticed it the first day I played Eve and it just seemed half-assed.
Neo Omni Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.30 23:00:00 - [28] Originally by: Jaci Johanna Edited by: Jaci Johanna on 30/03/2011 22:57:13 This is a fit and finish issue that has always bothered me. I noticed it the first day I played Eve and it just seemed half-assed. Exactly. So I'm wondering if CCP will just fall back on "that's the way it is" (plenty of enabling apologists here to stroke CCP) or actually admit it's half-assed and do something about it some day.
theocratis	Posted - 2011.03.30 23:05:00 - [29] at fan fest and in the weeks before fan fest this thread has been highlighted as having received attention from ccp and action has resulted from it. It is basically a huge polish list. If you sincerely wish the game to improve, and this is not some smear campaign, then i suggest you throw some ideas there. Soundwave and his team seem to have acknowledged that the game needs polish.
Neo Omni Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.30 23:10:00 - [30] Originally by: theocratis at fan fest and in the weeks before fan fest this thread has been highlighted as having received attention from ccp and action has resulted from it. It is basically a huge polish list. If you sincerely wish the game to improve, and this is not some smear campaign, then i suggest you throw some ideas there. Soundwave and his team seem to have acknowledged that the game needs polish. DONE!! Thanks for the link.

Pages: [1] 2 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.