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IAMYOURMAMA	Posted - 2011.03.30 23:51:00 - [31] Originally by: rock crawlermne So, lemme get this right OP. PLease correct me if I'm wrong. You war dec'd a crop w/a 1 man alt. Found a memeber of that corp w/ your main...quickly joined the 1 man alt corp, ganked a unsuspecting target before the game mechanics could catch up and alert him that you're an enemy...and then left the 1man alt corp to avoid retribution. How is this not an exploit of the system? GM stardust discovered this, and banned you for it. So you come here and post just enough to let us know YOUR side of the story, and mislead us in morally backing you up. If that is true, then you sir, are the worst kind of scum. I ninja salvage/loot...I openly steel from mission runners, and I gurarentee people will respect me more then you. I read in your link that you have '7 other accounts' that you will cancle if this doens't get resolved. I'll bet money that 5 of those accounts are bots. I wont tell you to leave...becuase that's againts the rules and I wont stoop to that level....but should you quit, no tears will be shead. Bro... Keep reading the OP until you understand it then come back and post. right now its like me saying "I had my dog euthanized" and you coming back with the response "YOU SHOT YOUR DOG! YOU'RE A TERRIBLE MAN" See whats wrong there?
Nuniki Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2011.03.30 23:52:00 - [32] Edited by: Nuniki on 30/03/2011 23:55:13 People still seem pretty fuzzy on the whole "when is using the join/leave function of a corporation at WAR a reportable offense?" Good (or rather, neutral): Your corp gets wardecked. You do not wish to fight. You leave the corp. You may do this as much as humanly possible. Bad: You exploit wartarget flagging mechanics. Example? Corp A and B are at war, you are currently not in Corp A but are waiting to have your application accepted when the moment is right, when Corp B engages thinking they have the upperhand (and then suddenly 2-3 people instantly join corp A who are on the gate/belt with them). It's my understanding that THIS is the abuse of corporation wardecking that people get suspended for. Edit: Oh, forgot the obligatory "nobody cares" and "don't post about GM discussions on the forums".
Gavjack Bunk Gallente Zero taxes corps are easy to make	Posted - 2011.03.30 23:54:00 - [33] Edited by: Gavjack Bunk on 30/03/2011 23:54:41 Did you per chance do this Hop-Surprise! to any of the shipsofeve allied corporations? The GMs affiliated with shipsofeve are kinda harsh tbh when it comes to tinkering with their mates.
Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2011.03.30 23:58:00 - [34] The OP is doing the following, Wardec a corporation/alliance with an alt which is part of a 1 man corp, he then keeps that alt logged off so the alliance thinks nothing of it while his second neutral alt is scouting and trying to find a juicy target, when it's found, his main puts in an application to his 1 man alt corporation, then warps to mission/belt/whatever, then accepts it, and hes able to kill people completely unaware of him in local or on the overview, since it doesn't update unless you make a system change. Thats an exploit and not ok. You can leave a corp when you want if you don't like war, you can't immediately rejoin it, kill someone, then immediately leave though. ---
Jaci Johanna	Posted - 2011.03.30 23:59:00 - [35] Originally by: Nuniki Bad: You exploit wartarget flagging mechanics. Example? Corp A and B are at war, you are currently not in Corp A but are waiting to have your application accepted when the moment is right, when Corp B engages thinking they have the upperhand (and then suddenly 2-3 people instantly join corp A who are on the gate/belt with them). It's my understanding that THIS is the abuse of corporation wardecking that people get suspended for. Yeah. This is why I'm hesitant to jump all over the GM. OP could have pulled some asshat move for all we know.
Avrilicious	Posted - 2011.03.30 23:59:00 - [36] Originally by: rock crawlermne So, lemme get this right OP. PLease correct me if I'm wrong. Lets do this. Originally by: rock crawlermne You war dec'd a crop w/a 1 man alt. Yes, he did. Originally by: rock crawlermne Found a memeber of that corp w/ your main...quickly joined the 1 man alt corp, ganked a unsuspecting target I would assume so. Originally by: rock crawlermne before the game mechanics could catch up and alert him that you're an enemy... False, if you actually read the OP's post, he specified that he did indeed wait through a session change. Originally by: rock crawlermne and then left the 1man alt corp to avoid retribution. How is this not an exploit of the system? This is not an exploit. The standing precedent states that it is okay to leave a corp to avoid a wardec. Originally by: rock crawlermne GM stardust discovered this, and banned you for it. So you come here and post just enough to let us know YOUR side of the story, and mislead us in morally backing you up. GM Stardust discovered that the OP did leave his alt corp so that he would not get attacked by his wartargets, but as stated before, that is not a bannable offense. I believe that the OP has stated the full story and has not bent it in any way. The only thing he could have done that would have been a bannable offense would to shoot prior to waiting for a complete session change. Since the OP has been adamant that he did indeed wait through it, we can imply that the OP did not partake in any bannable actions. Originally by: rock crawlermne If that is true, then you sir, are the worst kind of scum. I ninja salvage/loot...I openly steel from mission runners, and I gurarentee people will respect me more then you. I read in your link that you have '7 other accounts' that you will cancle if this doens't get resolved. I'll bet money that 5 of those accounts are bots. I have lots of honor sir. In fact, my mining lazors are preloaded with honor mining crystals. Originally by: rock crawlermne I wont tell you to leave...becuase that's againts the rules and I wont stoop to that level....but should you quit, no tears will be shead. I will cry. A lot.
IAMYOURMAMA	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:00:00 - [37] Edited by: IAMYOURMAMA on 31/03/2011 00:02:13 Apparently people here may be a little dense.... Let me break this down for you... Corp hopping (important, pay attention) then Session changing by jumping through gate or docking then undocking to kill a juicy war target of the corp im joining is not what the member was banned for. Leaving a corporation to avoid a war dec (look right here) IS what the member was banned for. Can i make it a bit simpler to understand? I think not.
rock crawlermne	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:01:00 - [38] Edited by: rock crawlermne on 31/03/2011 00:03:17 Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA Bro... Keep reading the OP until you understand it then come back and post. right now its like me saying "I had my dog euthanized" and you coming back with the response "YOU SHOT YOUR DOG! YOU'RE A TERRIBLE MAN" See whats wrong there? LOL funny analogy. I don't think OP is telling all of the story. I think he abused the leave/join mechanic and got banned for it. Time will tell. EDIT: IF I'm incorrect in my assumptions, then I apologies for my offense and clearly you have been wronged.
Caius Sivaris Dark Nexxus S I L E N T.	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:01:00 - [39] Originally by: Nuniki Bad: You exploit wartarget flagging mechanics. Example? Corp A and B are at war, you are currently not in Corp A but are waiting to have your application accepted when the moment is right, when Corp B engages thinking they have the upperhand (and then suddenly 2-3 people instantly join corp A who are on the gate/belt with them). It's my understanding that THIS is the abuse of corporation wardecking that people get suspended for. In his case that's that, questionable behavior but not actually bannable, then leaving immediately so he can haul loot from the comfort of a NPC corp. Joining a war late is ok, leaving immediately is what he got his tempban for. He's a no risk taken PvPer, on par with station camper with hordes of NPC corp logistics alt, or lowsec station camper that will drop their ship in a carrier bay and warp their pod if they start to lose. In short, someone that won't be missed.
Gavjack Bunk Gallente Zero taxes corps are easy to make	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:03:00 - [40] Edited by: Gavjack Bunk on 31/03/2011 00:03:43 Originally by: rock crawlermne Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA Bro... Keep reading the OP until you understand it then come back and post. right now its like me saying "I had my dog euthanized" and you coming back with the response "YOU SHOT YOUR DOG! YOU'RE A TERRIBLE MAN" See whats wrong there? LOL funny analogy. I don't think OP is telling all of the story. I think he abused the leave/join mechanic and got banned for it. Time will tell. some LSS / PRONS alts have been doing it for literally years, and even if you draw a picture and ****ing fax it to a GM he'll still just sit their dribbling cheerio's from his mouth wondering what's going to happen on his favourite soap tonight.
IAMYOURMAMA	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:04:00 - [41] Originally by: rock crawlermne Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA Bro... Keep reading the OP until you understand it then come back and post. right now its like me saying "I had my dog euthanized" and you coming back with the response "YOU SHOT YOUR DOG! YOU'RE A TERRIBLE MAN" See whats wrong there? LOL funny analogy. I don't think OP is telling all of the story. I think he abused the leave/join mechanic and got banned for it. Time will tell. Well i had all petitions from GM and responses from the banned member posted but was advised that the gms would lock the thread and take it down so i took them down. There isnt anything more to tell. If you read the first page i believe one of the first 8 posts after the OP the same GM banned someone else for posting a wiki link in a chat room.
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:09:00 - [42] Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA Edited by: IAMYOURMAMA on 30/03/2011 23:32:57 *Updated* So im not sure if some of you know this but apparently if you leave your corporation (no matter if your corp dec'd another or you got dec'd by a corp) its a bannable offense? "suspended for ignoring the instructions of a GM regarding the use of Corp-hopping to avoid war decs." If this be the case then a LOT of people that are in large wardec corps/alliances such as NOIR or Privateers (be dec'd by or initiated dec) should have been or should be banned. Not to mention, ALL capsuleers who use the 1 man corp dec method then instantly join 2 or more members to the corp after locating a war target then leaving corp should be banned(I have not heard of any such cases of this). So EVE please tell me which GM to believe because I am lost here. If anything that char/person has canceled all of his accounts because CCP is jerking him around banning characters and making up their own rules as they go along... How can anyone in EVE or this person follow CCP's guidelines without CCP knowing what their own rules are? The only thing i ask is that a GM respond to this post or contact my character in eve to resolve the matter by removing this ban as a past offense and possibly if he isn't too stubborn an apology? Seems like you may be leaving out a huge chunk of the story out. Let's hope GM Stardust doesn't pop up and fill us in with all of the details . Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
mkmin	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:10:00 - [43] Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA Edited by: IAMYOURMAMA on 31/03/2011 00:02:13 Apparently people here may be a little dense.... Let me break this down for you... Corp hopping (important, pay attention) then Session changing by jumping through gate or docking then undocking to kill a juicy war target of the corp im joining is not what the member was banned for. Leaving a corporation to avoid a war dec (look right here) IS what the member was banned for. Can i make it a bit simpler to understand? I think not. Lemme guess... you dropped corp in the middle of a firefight to try to get the WT's concorded? You dropped corp after a quick gank so you could loot and travel around unmolested? You pulled some other ****head move as a griefing/exploit tactic and deserve a permaban instead of a lame 3 day ban?
Cacnea	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:13:00 - [44] Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA snip Seems like you may be leaving out a huge chunk of the story out. Let's hope GM Stardust doesn't pop up and fill us in with all of the details . OP edited post so thread wouldn't get locked. Before edit, it was clearly shown that OP was banned for avoiding wardecs by dropping corp. Nothing else was referenced by the GM, which begs the question: why was he banned for avoiding wardec by dropping corp?
IAMYOURMAMA	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:14:00 - [45] Edited by: IAMYOURMAMA on 31/03/2011 00:16:34 Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA Edited by: IAMYOURMAMA on 30/03/2011 23:32:57 *Updated* So im not sure if some of you know this but apparently if you leave your corporation (no matter if your corp dec'd another or you got dec'd by a corp) its a bannable offense? "suspended for ignoring the instructions of a GM regarding the use of Corp-hopping to avoid war decs." If this be the case then a LOT of people that are in large wardec corps/alliances such as NOIR or Privateers (be dec'd by or initiated dec) should have been or should be banned. Not to mention, ALL capsuleers who use the 1 man corp dec method then instantly join 2 or more members to the corp after locating a war target then leaving corp should be banned(I have not heard of any such cases of this). So EVE please tell me which GM to believe because I am lost here. If anything that char/person has canceled all of his accounts because CCP is jerking him around banning characters and making up their own rules as they go along... How can anyone in EVE or this person follow CCP's guidelines without CCP knowing what their own rules are? The only thing i ask is that a GM respond to this post or contact my character in eve to resolve the matter by removing this ban as a past offense and possibly if he isn't too stubborn an apology? Seems like you may be leaving out a huge chunk of the story out. Let's hope GM Stardust doesn't pop up and fill us in with all of the details . God, i wish he would. I already had the details filled in, but as advised by ppl in the thread i took all petition mails down in hopes they wont lock the thread and remove the petition text anyway. Originally by: mkmin Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA Edited by: IAMYOURMAMA on 31/03/2011 00:02:13 Apparently people here may be a little dense.... Let me break this down for you... Corp hopping (important, pay attention) then Session changing by jumping through gate or docking then undocking to kill a juicy war target of the corp im joining is not what the member was banned for. Leaving a corporation to avoid a war dec (look right here) IS what the member was banned for. Can i make it a bit simpler to understand? I think not. Lemme guess... you dropped corp in the middle of a firefight to try to get the WT's concorded? You dropped corp after a quick gank so you could loot and travel around unmolested? You pulled some other ****head move as a griefing/exploit tactic and deserve a permaban instead of a lame 3 day ban? No, close but a few days lapsed, No and you sir hooked on phonics, look into it because you obviously cannot read.
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:20:00 - [46] Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA Edited by: IAMYOURMAMA on 31/03/2011 00:02:13 Apparently people here may be a little dense.... Let me break this down for you... Corp hopping (important, pay attention) then Session changing by jumping through gate or docking then undocking to kill a juicy war target of the corp im joining is not what the member was banned for. Leaving a corporation to avoid a war dec (look right here) IS what the member was banned for. Can i make it a bit simpler to understand? I think not. You seem to be playing word games here. Let's put aside the reason given for his ban, did this member insta-join/insta-drop a corp to attack a war target? Because you seem to be avoiding this question and latching on to explicit and literal GM writing to save you, like it's a document being scrutinized in court. That's not going to fly here. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:21:00 - [47] Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA Well i had all petitions from GM and responses from the banned member posted but was advised that the gms would lock the thread and take it down so i took them down. There isnt anything more to tell. If you read the first page i believe one of the first 8 posts after the OP the same GM banned someone else for posting a wiki link in a chat room. This is why you escalate petitions when the responses are too funky. So that the higher-ups know that the lower ranked GMs screwed up, and know who to send to "remedial training". _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts _
mkmin	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:22:00 - [48] Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA Originally by: mkmin Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA Edited by: IAMYOURMAMA on 31/03/2011 00:02:13 Apparently people here may be a little dense.... Let me break this down for you... Corp hopping (important, pay attention) then Session changing by jumping through gate or docking then undocking to kill a juicy war target of the corp im joining is not what the member was banned for. Leaving a corporation to avoid a war dec (look right here) IS what the member was banned for. Can i make it a bit simpler to understand? I think not. Lemme guess... you dropped corp in the middle of a firefight to try to get the WT's concorded? You dropped corp after a quick gank so you could loot and travel around unmolested? You pulled some other ****head move as a griefing/exploit tactic and deserve a permaban instead of a lame 3 day ban? No, close but a few days lapsed, No and you sir hooked on phonics, look into it because you obviously cannot read. I can read. I just think you're lying, trying to garner sympathy in one of the most useless places to do it. The thread's probably going to be locked anyway, and this is merely the entertainment of the moment. If you really want it fixed instead of just to cry about how you got out-griefed by a GM, escalate your petition rather than dance around like a monkey covered with it's own droppings.
NinjaSpud	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:23:00 - [49] Well, there's alot of ways that OP could have cheated or manipulated the system, but he claims innocence and for now I beleive we should give him the benefit, until proven otherwise. OP, you came to the forum with this to get a rabble started, so here we are. Now that you've gotten our attention and geared it twords the GM's I can only hope they come down to defend themselves. But the big question on everyones mind is did you get screwed? Or are you lying? Would you be willing to post any responce from GM's/CCP here? Now that you've gotten our attention, I'm sure I speak for many when I say "We would like to know the outcome."
Caius Sivaris Dark Nexxus S I L E N T.	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:25:00 - [50] Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA Edited by: IAMYOURMAMA on 31/03/2011 00:02:13 Apparently people here may be a little dense.... Let me break this down for you... Corp hopping (important, pay attention) then Session changing by jumping through gate or docking then undocking to kill a juicy war target of the corp im joining is not what the member was banned for. Leaving a corporation to avoid a war dec (look right here) IS what the member was banned for. Can't possibly be 'leaving a corporation, right after a kill that by pure chance happened one minute after I joined'.
IAMYOURMAMA	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:29:00 - [51] Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA Edited by: IAMYOURMAMA on 31/03/2011 00:02:13 Apparently people here may be a little dense.... Let me break this down for you... Corp hopping (important, pay attention) then Session changing by jumping through gate or docking then undocking to kill a juicy war target of the corp im joining is not what the member was banned for. Leaving a corporation to avoid a war dec (look right here) IS what the member was banned for. Can i make it a bit simpler to understand? I think not. You seem to be playing word games here. Let's put aside the reason given for his ban, did this member insta-join/insta-drop a corp to attack a war target? Because you seem to be avoiding this question and latching on to explicit and literal GM writing to save you, like it's a document being scrutinized in court. That's not going to fly here. So... "account suspended for avoiding a war dec by leaving corp" clearly means "account suspended for apping into a corp at war and engaging a war target without session change" Wow, do i feel stupid... how did i not know that's what he meant. Are you serious??? even so, if the banned member had performed a app in then gank tactic he followed the proper session change procedure. If you think its dumb, its still not an offense that calls for warn or ban.
mkmin	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:32:00 - [52] Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA Edited by: IAMYOURMAMA on 31/03/2011 00:02:13 Apparently people here may be a little dense.... Let me break this down for you... Corp hopping (important, pay attention) then Session changing by jumping through gate or docking then undocking to kill a juicy war target of the corp im joining is not what the member was banned for. Leaving a corporation to avoid a war dec (look right here) IS what the member was banned for. Can i make it a bit simpler to understand? I think not. You seem to be playing word games here. Let's put aside the reason given for his ban, did this member insta-join/insta-drop a corp to attack a war target? Because you seem to be avoiding this question and latching on to explicit and literal GM writing to save you, like it's a document being scrutinized in court. That's not going to fly here. So... "account suspended for avoiding a war dec by leaving corp" clearly means "account suspended for apping into a corp at war and engaging a war target without session change" Wow, do i feel stupid... how did i not know that's what he meant. Are you serious??? even so, if the banned member had performed a app in then gank tactic he followed the proper session change procedure. If you think its dumb, its still not an offense that calls for warn or ban. The best part is that the GM correspondence said you were WARNED! And you were stupid enough to CONTINUE! Why are we supposed to feel sympathy for you? If it happened repeatedly enough to warrant a warning, than good riddance to you and whatever lies and misinformation you're spewing to cover your griefing ass.
IAMYOURMAMA	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:35:00 - [53] Edited by: IAMYOURMAMA on 31/03/2011 00:37:19 Originally by: NinjaSpud Well, there's alot of ways that OP could have cheated or manipulated the system, but he claims innocence and for now I beleive we should give him the benefit, until proven otherwise. OP, you came to the forum with this to get a rabble started, so here we are. Now that you've gotten our attention and geared it twords the GM's I can only hope they come down to defend themselves. But the big question on everyones mind is did you get screwed? Or are you lying? Would you be willing to post any responce from GM's/CCP here? Now that you've gotten our attention, I'm sure I speak for many when I say "We would like to know the outcome." No, I told everything straight the way it happened and even posted the GM petition conversation. After the first few posts of users warning the thread would be locked and the petition texts taken down anyway i removed them but they were up there until about 30 minutes ago. The only thing i want to get at is what is the actual rule on this, yes some people on here say there is no fine definition of the rule but i think that if there is no definition of the rule then there should be something done about GM's telling me its ok to do one thing then when i do it i get banned by a different GM. There is a problem there, i do understand they make the rules and i have to follow them but for god sakes... Give me a definite rule or guideline so i don't get banned because im following the rules. ^ Its a freaking loop of endless crap. Originally by: Caius Sivaris Can't possibly be 'leaving a corporation, right after a kill that by pure chance happened one minute after I joined'. No, was docked and i stated earlier was in that corp for a few days before i left.
Cacnea	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:43:00 - [54] Originally by: mkmin Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA Edited by: IAMYOURMAMA on 31/03/2011 00:02:13 Apparently people here may be a little dense.... Let me break this down for you... Corp hopping (important, pay attention) then Session changing by jumping through gate or docking then undocking to kill a juicy war target of the corp im joining is not what the member was banned for. Leaving a corporation to avoid a war dec (look right here) IS what the member was banned for. Can i make it a bit simpler to understand? I think not. You seem to be playing word games here. Let's put aside the reason given for his ban, did this member insta-join/insta-drop a corp to attack a war target? Because you seem to be avoiding this question and latching on to explicit and literal GM writing to save you, like it's a document being scrutinized in court. That's not going to fly here. So... "account suspended for avoiding a war dec by leaving corp" clearly means "account suspended for apping into a corp at war and engaging a war target without session change" Wow, do i feel stupid... how did i not know that's what he meant. Are you serious??? even so, if the banned member had performed a app in then gank tactic he followed the proper session change procedure. If you think its dumb, its still not an offense that calls for warn or ban. The best part is that the GM correspondence said you were WARNED! And you were stupid enough to CONTINUE! Why are we supposed to feel sympathy for you? If it happened repeatedly enough to warrant a warning, than good riddance to you and whatever lies and misinformation you're spewing to cover your griefing ass. He himself said he was warned, as the GM didn't mention anything about session changes. Also, after the warning, the OP no longer ignored the session change. Do you even read or do you just see what you want to see?
IAMYOURMAMA	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:45:00 - [55] Originally by: mkmin Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA Edited by: IAMYOURMAMA on 31/03/2011 00:02:13 Apparently people here may be a little dense.... Let me break this down for you... Corp hopping (important, pay attention) then Session changing by jumping through gate or docking then undocking to kill a juicy war target of the corp im joining is not what the member was banned for. Leaving a corporation to avoid a war dec (look right here) IS what the member was banned for. Can i make it a bit simpler to understand? I think not. You seem to be playing word games here. Let's put aside the reason given for his ban, did this member insta-join/insta-drop a corp to attack a war target? Because you seem to be avoiding this question and latching on to explicit and literal GM writing to save you, like it's a document being scrutinized in court. That's not going to fly here. So... "account suspended for avoiding a war dec by leaving corp" clearly means "account suspended for apping into a corp at war and engaging a war target without session change" Wow, do i feel stupid... how did i not know that's what he meant. Are you serious??? even so, if the banned member had performed a app in then gank tactic he followed the proper session change procedure. If you think its dumb, its still not an offense that calls for warn or ban. The best part is that the GM correspondence said you were WARNED! And you were stupid enough to CONTINUE! Why are we supposed to feel sympathy for you? If it happened repeatedly enough to warrant a warning, than good riddance to you and whatever lies and misinformation you're spewing to cover your griefing ass. Sigh... Banned member was warned for something totally different almost a year ago... not to mention what you are saying is the banned member was warned more then once for leaving a corp to avoid a war dec? still by at least 3 GMs that i know of not a warn or bannable offense to leave a corp to avoid a war dec, I only know one GM that considers this an offense and that would be GM stardust aka... (nah bad idea)
Caius Sivaris Dark Nexxus S I L E N T.	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:45:00 - [56] Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA No, was docked and i stated earlier was in that corp for a few days before i left. off course you were docked, can't leave a corp if you aren't. Was it right after a gank yes or no...
IAMYOURMAMA	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:47:00 - [57] Originally by: Caius Sivaris Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA No, was docked and i stated earlier was in that corp for a few days before i left. off course you were docked, can't leave a corp if you aren't. Was it right after a gank yes or no... No, it went like this. 1. gank 2. dock 3. 3 days 4. leave corp.
Barakkus	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:52:00 - [58] Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA If this be the case then a LOT of people that are in large wardec corps/alliances such as NOIR or Privateers (be dec'd by or initiated dec) should have been or should be banned. Explain how so? Don't think either of those corps are avoiding decs. Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA Not to mention, ALL capsuleers who use the 1 man corp dec method then instantly join 2 or more members to the corp after locating a war target then leaving corp should be banned(I have not heard of any such cases of this). How so? This would be considered hired help, not avoiding a dec. Something smells fishy here...sounds like the whole story isn't coming out...The only mechanic I know of that is punishable is the alliance wardec transfer thing they patched a while back and stated anyone using that as a way to avoid decs would be in trouble. Who is your main that got banned? - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
mkmin	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:56:00 - [59] Originally by: Cacnea Do you even read or do you just see what you want to see? Nah, I'm just trolling someone who is crying, and probably lying. Nobody who posts in this thread can do jack squat for him, so who cares? This is a meaningless thread. If he wants to get it overturned, escalate the petition. If he wants to get a firm policy made public, ask. If he wants to get flamed and accused of lying, cheating, and exploiting, rage on the forums.
Caius Sivaris Dark Nexxus S I L E N T.	Posted - 2011.03.31 01:04:00 - [60] Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA Originally by: Caius Sivaris Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA No, was docked and i stated earlier was in that corp for a few days before i left. off course you were docked, can't leave a corp if you aren't. Was it right after a gank yes or no... No, it went like this. 1. gank 2. dock 3. 3 days 4. leave corp. And I suppose you omitted 0. one minute before 1, join Anyway it looks like a pretty odd ruling. Likely there is something else that made the GMs angry...

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