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Jon Engel
APEX Unlimited APEX Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.04.01 22:27:00 -
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A case could me made for the old saying.
Give a man a fish or teach a man to fish. Plus, if you are a charitable person ( I respect that ) you don't need CCP as an excuse to give. I personally believe in Kharma in certain forms. So a person who gives when he or she can, will receive blessings later in life.
5 bucks goes a long way in the 3rd world. If it actually gets to someone in need. A person can buy supplies to start a cottage industry or something and put food on the table for children. Charities can dig wells or build schools and buy books, etc. Remember Africa's failed economies need to be built up from the village on up. You can not supply the central Governments of African Nations with capital and expect it to trickle down when the Governments are concerned with quashing rebellions and getting that latest crate of Russian AKs off the black market.
Do I even think charity or handouts will help in the long run? No. Point is, I think it's something Africa needs to sort out themselves. Otherwise they will just hold hands out for the US or UN food crates and rely on the blue helmets for protection when war breaks out.
I feel for Africa but Africa needs to be taught how to provide for itself. So, if you have a fancy degree in economics. Why not get a plane ticket to Liberia and teach a village how to provide a needed or wanted service? Or if you have knowledge of agriculture, help African Land owners make better use of lands and provide them with variety in their diets and a surplus to export?
Just some thoughts.
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Aaron
Eternal Frontier Rebel Alliance of New Eden
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Posted - 2011.04.02 03:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jon Engel A case could me made for the old saying.
Do I even think charity or handouts will help in the long run? No. Point is, I think it's something Africa needs to sort out themselves. Otherwise they will just hold hands out for the US or UN food crates and rely on the blue helmets for protection when war breaks out.
I feel for Africa but Africa needs to be taught how to provide for itself. So, if you have a fancy degree in economics. Why not get a plane ticket to Liberia and teach a village how to provide a needed or wanted service? Or if you have knowledge of agriculture, help African Land owners make better use of lands and provide them with variety in their diets and a surplus to export?
Just some thoughts.
Hmmm, I felt you could have looked into it a bit deeper. Lets face it the Infrastructure doesnt exist to ensure african workers recieve a fair wage for their works and looking at the bigger picture we support this exploitation.
Lets take chocolate for example, its purchased from african chocolate producers for pennies yet in the UK its a billion pound industry. We have sucked Africa dry for everything its got and those current bastard leaders want to suck even more.
Remove these evil people from power, Africa needs leaders where health and education, housing are their priority.
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Kishin Sendo
Minmatar Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.04.02 04:00:00 -
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Wow you guys are really terrible, 3 pages of response and still didn't answer OP's original questions.
He asked
Originally by: Marion Vane
i dont think i miss one plex donation session for them. did i?
so please help me to understand donation mechanism specs and requirements. .
And here is the answer, CCP's mechanism specs and requirements of Plex donation is when sh!t hit the fan of something on page 1 of CNN/Yahoo/Fox/BBC/etc...., a new disaster that is just happens and gathers a lot of attention, with by doing this, make CCP look good in the news with our money. But On going crisis for no matter how bad or how long does NOT MATTER.
oh and BTW, the OP did not ask about geopolitical situation in Africa.
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Jon Engel
APEX Unlimited APEX Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.04.02 06:10:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron
Originally by: Jon Engel A case could me made for the old saying.
Do I even think charity or handouts will help in the long run? No. Point is, I think it's something Africa needs to sort out themselves. Otherwise they will just hold hands out for the US or UN food crates and rely on the blue helmets for protection when war breaks out.
I feel for Africa but Africa needs to be taught how to provide for itself. So, if you have a fancy degree in economics. Why not get a plane ticket to Liberia and teach a village how to provide a needed or wanted service? Or if you have knowledge of agriculture, help African Land owners make better use of lands and provide them with variety in their diets and a surplus to export?
Just some thoughts.
Hmmm, I felt you could have looked into it a bit deeper. Lets face it the Infrastructure doesnt exist to ensure african workers recieve a fair wage for their works and looking at the bigger picture we support this exploitation.
Lets take chocolate for example, its purchased from african chocolate producers for pennies yet in the UK its a billion pound industry. We have sucked Africa dry for everything its got and those current bastard leaders want to suck even more.
Remove these evil people from power, Africa needs leaders where health and education, housing are their priority.
How can you have adequate health, education and housing without a sufficient tax base to draw funds from? That is how I would get "deeper" with it. Too many African Nations are dependent on rather questionable means of funding the various Governments. How about we go the most simpler way and go for such things as non-oil or non-diamond based economies. Or if you will....
A privatized economy where individuals are able to negotiate prices and decide what is to be produced. Then Governments can institute such things as sales taxes and so forth. You need some form of domestic consumerism in order for any Nation to live a high standard, to provide welfare for the poor and to allow the poor to work themselves out of poverty.
Sadly, our ramblings don't and won't ever matter. This is stuff Africa has to work out.
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Hieronimus Rex
Minmatar Infinitus Sapientia New Eden Research.
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Posted - 2011.04.02 07:16:00 -
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Edited by: Hieronimus Rex on 02/04/2011 07:16:50
Originally by: Eastman Color
Originally by: Hannibal Ord
Originally by: Eastman Color
2) diminish the population
You do realise Africa is the LEAST populated continent on average on earth. Much of the issue of overpopulation is actually to do with lack of support from the outside and corruption on the inside, and if those two factors were removed people would be fine to live pretty much anywhere.
That's rather flawed thinking, Primarily a population should be able to sustain it's self, be that through producing the necessary food stuffs to sustain it's self or being able to produce sufficient export that it can buy in the foods stuffs required.
"support" from the outside is nothing more than a drain on the outside which I object to.
Our planet can support a finite number of humans and in all honesty, pretty much all of out problems could be solved by dropping the population of the earth to something little more than 500 million people.
I'm all for the lottery out of sliders
Right because food is sooooo expensive, what with agriculture making up like 3% of US GDP...
As others have said the real problem is lack of trade and economic activity largely caused by corrupt institutions.
EDIT: Also IBTL
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Jin Karn
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Posted - 2011.04.02 07:37:00 -
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TBh who cares
if ppl cant feed they familys simple dont have kids
not our problem what happens to other countrys
sh!t happens
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Hannibal Ord
Minmatar Hannibals Commando's
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Posted - 2011.04.02 08:17:00 -
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Edited by: Hannibal Ord on 02/04/2011 08:17:59
Originally by: Jin Karn TBh who cares
if ppl cant feed they familys simple dont have kids
not our problem what happens to other countrys
sh!t happens
Yeah but it is. That's the point. To think that no other countries have influence on your own is so ****ing ******ed. If countries in Africa were to progress in certain areas, then so too would your own economy because of increased value of trade overall.
The attitude of not giving a ****, ultimately results in planes being flown into buildings and lots of people dying in a fire. Simply because countries that are poor, have desperate people, who can end up doing drastic things that effect YOU. It wouldn't take much for Al-Qaeda (for example) to start getting MAJOR footholds in African countries. To make countries prosperous is a good thing, happiness is a good thing. Despair is not.
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Tom Sasaki
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Posted - 2011.04.02 09:44:00 -
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What africa needs is security aka training and armament.
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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2011.04.02 09:54:00 -
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I LOVE TOTO! By the way, real men biomass when they emoragequit.
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CCP StevieSG
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Posted - 2011.04.02 11:29:00 -
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Moved to Out of Pod from EVE General.
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Milla Jovobitch
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Posted - 2011.04.02 13:54:00 -
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As someone who lives in Real Africa (Southern Highlands of Tanzania, that is), I am positively surprised by how knowledgeable pod pilots are about African affairs. Usually people in western discussion forums have no clue about what's going on down here, but in this thread I find a number of people who do have a clue. (And, of course, we have here some trolls too, and some ignorant asses, as always.)
Pretty cool anyway, fellow pilots!
PS. Yeah, we *do* have computers. Yeah, we do have the Internets. My connection is a 3G connection.
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Citizen20100211442
Minmatar Carebear Evolution White Angels.
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Posted - 2011.04.02 15:47:00 -
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How about Plex donation to struggling white farmers in South Africa, who are being constantly assaulted and harassed by locals?
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Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
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Posted - 2011.04.02 16:14:00 -
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When I was in the loony bin I spoke to a member of staff who was from Africa. She said a lot of people in Africa have a me me me attitude. And that with corruption keeps a lot of African countries bouncing on the bottom. But there are some countries that stand out like Botswana - Stable democracy and it is the worlds largest of diamonds that gives it wealth.
China is investing all over Africa. All part of its global strategy to secure natural resources (And buying votes in the UN). Western pundits would like to paint this as typical Chinese amoral foreign policy. Particularly with the war in Darfur rumbling on. But Sudan is stabilizing. And could be integrated into economic globalization that will give sustainable development. After all USA established diplomatic relations with Vietnam when it became a major exporter. Consumer goods is mightier than the sword! Africans are very wary of Western esoteric initiatives in Africa. They are far more agreeable to China who does not meddle beyond stating 'don't go to war'.
It is not ideal to invest in corrupt countries in Africa. But if you cut the head of a snake it grows back. It is better to deal with a snake and through industrialization its offspring will start looking after its own rather than eating it.
And with the recent rise in global food prices which was in a large way created by the west subsidizing its own agriculture It would be of global benefit for Africa to invest in modern high tech agriculture to provide supply alternatives to non rich countries.
I think in 50-100 years Africa could surprise the world with creative industries. After all Rock, pop music evolved from Blues and Jazz music.
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Taedrin
Gallente The Green Cross Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.04.02 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Cairn Bolete
Originally by: mkmin
Originally by: Chesty McJubblies insane heat, and temperature?
quoted for irony
It's a tautology, not irony.
Quoting for real irony.
Actually, I bet that there is LOTS of iron at the Earth's core.
Ba dum tssshhh ----------
Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Jin Karn
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Posted - 2011.04.02 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: Hannibal Ord Edited by: Hannibal Ord on 02/04/2011 08:17:59
Originally by: Jin Karn TBh who cares
if ppl cant feed they familys simple dont have kids
not our problem what happens to other countrys
sh!t happens
Yeah but it is. That's the point. To think that no other countries have influence on your own is so ****ing ******ed. If countries in Africa were to progress in certain areas, then so too would your own economy because of increased value of trade overall.
The attitude of not giving a ****, ultimately results in planes being flown into buildings and lots of people dying in a fire. Simply because countries that are poor, have desperate people, who can end up doing drastic things that effect YOU. It wouldn't take much for Al-Qaeda (for example) to start getting MAJOR footholds in African countries. To make countries prosperous is a good thing, happiness is a good thing. Despair is not.
like i said who cares
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Flynn Fetladral
Caldari BlackSite Prophecy
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Posted - 2011.04.02 22:09:00 -
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Edited by: Flynn Fetladral on 02/04/2011 22:09:29 Going to start selling the big issue next are we? The PLEX for good campaign helped said counties as they suffered natural disasters. Africa requires long term aid and support. If you want to help Africa or any of the very valid long term charitable endeavours, then you can go and sign up to give monthly donations from Ç2+ month with any given charity who you might feel works in an area close to your heart. CCP is a games development company, not a non-for-profit.
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Martinez
T-Cells MOAR TEARS
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Posted - 2011.04.03 07:02:00 -
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this pretty much sums up africa's inhabitants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN7ehccspao&feature=related
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Selinate
Amarr Red Water Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.04.03 14:06:00 -
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Wait for them to stop killing each other, THEN we'll talk about sending aid to Africa.
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