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Ariedien
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Posted - 2011.04.01 18:47:00 -
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So here I was, having some fun ratting in a little traveled .4 sec system when someone appears in local. Mind you, my alt and I were all by our lonesome, having some fun killing the local Blood Raider devils. While I had been in the system for 5 or 6 days, everyone who passed through replied to my "o/" or "Hello" with nobody hunting me down and I not hunting them down.
A couple days ago, someone jumps into the system and I extend my normal welcome. He gives the normal answers of someone who is just passing by. He asks if he knows me and I reply "No, I just say hello to everyone who I see in local." His response was "hmm" and then he is gone. *First red flag should have popped up like crazy*
I go about my business killing more rats. A short while later, I see the same guy in local as I am finishing off getting the wrecks salvaged. I send my alt to the station to dump the gear, and being the cautious person I am, keep him docked since he was not fit to take more than a couple hits. I open dscan and see that he is in a T2 ship as I am warping to the next belt. Upon arriving at the next belt, I find 3 juicy BC rats and start shooting. I press the dscan a couple more times and don't see his ship appear, but 5 seconds later, there he is. By the time I align and try to warp, I am scrambled/webbed. With nowhere to go, no backup, I decide to start firing back, even though i know there is no hope for me.
My ship explodes in a dazzling display of metal and bright lights. I avoid being podded and get back to the station. Upset that I lost my ship, but knowing it was my own fault for not docking like I usually do, I sit and wait in the station in my generously donated Burst.
Next thing I see in local is his comment "That's what you get for saying hi to anyone in local" (or something very near that since I don't have the chat log) to which I replied with some not so nice things.
Is this really an unwritten rule in lo/null sec? Haven't heard of such a thing until now.
(BTW, even I called myself a "stupid noob" for not docking up) 
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Khory Thunderstar
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Posted - 2011.04.01 18:54:00 -
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Welcome to EvE |
Sharptons Hare
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Posted - 2011.04.01 18:59:00 -
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Nah. Say "Hi" and troll whoever you want. Just don't assume that because they talk to you they aren't going to shoot you, scam you or otherwise try to mess up your day. 
Your only real mistake was not docking when you first saw him on D-Scan.
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Khory Thunderstar
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Posted - 2011.04.01 19:05:00 -
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To elaborate, as it looks like you are somewhat new to EvE.
1) Do not fly anything that you cannot afford to loose. Because you will loose it, sooner or later.
2) Do not trust people. Again, you will be scammed sooner or later, so make sure that whatever you can afford to loose anything that you give away.
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Batelle
do you
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Posted - 2011.04.01 19:11:00 -
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If you say hi in local, you're broadcasting to the whole system that you're not sitting afk in a station, and thus a target.
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Bolvi
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Posted - 2011.04.01 19:13:00 -
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Edited by: Bolvi on 01/04/2011 19:14:18
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Bolvi
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Posted - 2011.04.01 19:25:00 -
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Edited by: Bolvi on 01/04/2011 19:25:19
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Sharptons Hare
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Posted - 2011.04.01 19:26:00 -
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Edited by: Sharptons Hare on 01/04/2011 19:30:23
While talking does announce your presence as a potential target, it is also a great way to (over time) make EVE friends and EVE enemies. Both are part of the fun of the game.
Just be aware of your surroundings, and pay attention to what particular people and corps get up to. Fly smart to minimize your losses, don't sweat the inevitable losses and remember the other unwritten rule of EVE:
Have fun. If you are not, you're doing it wrong.
P.S. Do try to shoot someone yourself when they aren't expecting it. It's a good time.
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Lord Ryan
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.04.01 19:28:00 -
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I prefer to be polite before and after I pop you. And try to do the same when you pop me.
Treat others as you wish to be treated.
If that fails treat an @$$hat like an @$$hat!
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Ariedien
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Posted - 2011.04.01 19:32:00 -
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 Originally by: Sharptons Hare
While talking does announce your presence as a potential target, it is also a great way to (over time) make EVE friends and EVE enemies. Both are part of the fun of the game.
Just be aware of your surroundings, and pay attention to what particular people and corps get up to. Fly smart to minimize your losses, don't sweat the inevitable losses and remember the other unwritten rule of EVE:
Have fun. If you are not, you're doing it wrong.
Fun? Eve is supposed to be fun? And here I have been mining and being bored for practically the entire time I have played!
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Mel Lifera
Gallente
Ambrye Logistics Ltd.
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Posted - 2011.04.01 20:46:00 -
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I even say hi sometimes when I'm first probing WH's in my covops (i.e. not combat-ready) and I see farming activity. It 1) freaks them out and makes them nervous, which is funny; it 2) forces them to stop doing whatever it is they're doing, which is griefy; and 3) compels them to swap out of their industrial ships into their big guns, which conveniently allows me to make a strategic assessment of their shooty capabilities without worrying immediately about dealing with them.
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Knokploeg
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Posted - 2011.04.01 20:47:00 -
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You can be friendly while trying to kill each other. The guy was just being a d*ck.
Try to stay aligned to a safespot or station at all times, which is easier in a long range ship then a close range fit ship. That still isn't a guarantee for safety, as he can go and sit in the next belt waiting for you to come to him.
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Mighty Dread
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.04.01 21:15:00 -
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So he popped you because you said "Hi" in local or just because he was already looking for someone to shoot at and you happened to be there?
Generally speaking I trust NO ONE in low sec except well known friends who happen to be with me. Doesn't matter if unknown pilot is in a shuttle, industrial or even just a pod, they are still dangerous because they have friends, copies, alliance mates, a PVP ship docked nearby, etc.
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Ariedien
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Posted - 2011.04.01 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Mighty Dread
So he popped you because you said "Hi" in local or just because he was already looking for someone to shoot at and you happened to be there?
His reason was because I said "Hi" when he wrote in Local. Whether he was already hunting or not, I don't know, but seeing how he came back after probably 10-20 minutes, I am guessing he went to get his PvP ship.
Regardless, I have been and will be even more cautious of others. Glad to know that being friendly isn't frowned upon, at least judging by the replies. |
randomname4me
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Posted - 2011.04.01 23:36:00 -
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Its low sec, being greeted in local is as good a reason as any to blow someone up.
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Triple Entendre
Basic Insight
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Posted - 2011.04.01 23:56:00 -
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Edited by: Triple Entendre on 01/04/2011 23:57:03
Saying 'Hi' in local, while APPEARING friendly, is much more worrying than you may think.
To blend into the masses in lowsec, I personally suggest ASCII genitalia. It could be crude and simplistic, or it could be a multi-lined digital masterpiece utilizing the character map to the best of your ability. The choice is yours, but it really is the preferred vernacular.
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Waylan Yutani
Gallente
Order of the Seraphim
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Posted - 2011.04.02 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Triple Entendre
Edited by: Triple Entendre on 01/04/2011 23:57:03
Saying 'Hi' in local, while APPEARING friendly, is much more worrying than you may think.
To blend into the masses in lowsec, I personally suggest ASCII genitalia. It could be crude and simplistic, or it could be a multi-lined digital masterpiece utilizing the character map to the best of your ability. The choice is yours, but it really is the preferred vernacular.
Yes, facevalue in lowsec is what its all about. Most of the fighting in lowsec is done with a smack-down of ASCII art and foul mouthed l337 sp33k - not many ships are involved in any actual action.
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Triple Entendre
Basic Insight
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Posted - 2011.04.02 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: Waylan Yutani
Yes, facevalue in lowsec is what its all about. Most of the fighting in lowsec is done with a smack-down of ASCII art and foul mouthed l337 sp33k - not many ships are involved in any actual action.
That, good sir, is untrue and I take this slander offensively!
My foul mouthed tirades are typed and punctuated properly.
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.04.02 07:25:00 -
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I'll kill anything in lowsec that doesn't love unicorns the way I do.
...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
flakeys
The Great cornholio's
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Posted - 2011.04.02 09:43:00 -
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He just gave an excuse and could as well have said your face was ugly or your ship was not to his liking so should be shot.When i am in my pirating mood of the year i allways chat a lot so it has nothing to do with it.
However as pointed out saying hi immediatly gives away you are being active , something you don't allways want in low-sec or 0.0 .Same thing goes for when someone enters your system , leaves and then within a short time returns in the system again , assume there is a 99% chance he is there to kill one of the locals.
Jump in system , warp to gate and scan on the way for wrecks.Lock down where the target probably is.Leave system , approach gate you came from and re-enter the system and warp to the next belt he probably is heading.Works like a charm a lot of times.
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MorliDots22
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Posted - 2011.04.02 10:30:00 -
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Hi !
: )
The better thing to do in at least in low is to invite somebody to a fleet so if he declines he is s ganker if not he can help you.
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Dirk Decibel
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Posted - 2011.04.02 12:18:00 -
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I o/ everyone in low sec too, but only when traveling, if I actually have business to do in space there I tend to keep a low profile.
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Frau Klaps
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.04.02 19:22:00 -
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"I let my guns do the talking."
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Kitty Cantblock
Caldari
Evil Monkey Asylum
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.02 19:49:00 -
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Edited by: Kitty Cantblock on 02/04/2011 19:49:21
wrong forum post whoops
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Herrring
Amarr
National Quality Breaker
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Posted - 2011.04.03 01:16:00 -
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Only say hi if you plan on staying afk cloaked/docked for a long time.
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flakeys
The Great cornholio's
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Posted - 2011.04.03 06:35:00 -
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Originally by: MorliDots22
The better thing to do in at least in low is to invite somebody to a fleet so if he declines he is s ganker if not he can help you.
So when he accepts he lands right on top off you with warp to gangmember?Bad idea unless docked i'd say 
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raney ilara
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Posted - 2011.04.03 08:18:00 -
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Originally by: Batelle
If you say hi in local, you're broadcasting to the whole system that you're not sitting afk in a station, and thus a target.
not necessarily.. I'll bet someone could make a fine in-station bot that greets anyone coming into local.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.04.03 12:15:00 -
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The amount of target's i've lost because people go "OH ITS HELICITY" in local.... gawd.
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Dirk Decibel
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Posted - 2011.04.03 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: Helicity Boson
The amount of target's i've lost because people go "OH ITS HELICITY" in local.... gawd.
The price you pay for ur infamousy. 
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Asswrinkle
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Posted - 2011.04.03 17:10:00 -
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Hi
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