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Jullian Valdexron
Gallente Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
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Posted - 2011.04.10 19:24:00 -
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Dose CCP have any plans of implementing a feature that allows the purchase of skill points by means of plex, isk or irl money?
I have alot of irl money and would take full advantage of such a service. I would be flying a titan in now time flat. It would also give new players a fighting chance at fighting more experienced players. Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet |
miniCarl
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Posted - 2011.04.10 19:31:00 -
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Worst. Idea. Ever.
Also wrong forum.
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Marley Browning
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Posted - 2011.04.10 21:40:00 -
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As much as I would love to kill your new titan, in order to keep players in the game this cant happen because when someone spends whatever it is, like 5 grand on a titan pilot and a titan and looses it, i bet they are not gonna stick around to long.
This gets proposed every day.
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Jullian Valdexron
Gallente Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
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Posted - 2011.04.10 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Marley Browning As much as I would love to kill your new titan, in order to keep players in the game this cant happen because when someone spends whatever it is, like 5 grand on a titan pilot and a titan and looses it, i bet they are not gonna stick around to long.
This gets proposed every day.
Yes but imagine how much money CCP would make from something like this. Sure the older players might be butthurt but just think of all the rich new players like me that could spend isk or irl money to train skills instantly.
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Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
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Posted - 2011.04.10 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Jullian Valdexron Dose CCP have any plans of implementing a feature that allows the purchase of skill points by means of plex, isk or irl money?
Isn't it called character bazaar?
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Kesshisan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.04.10 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: Jullian Valdexron Dose CCP have any plans of implementing a feature that allows the purchase of skill points by means of plex, isk or irl money?
1. Use RL money to buy PLEX. 2. Sell PLEX for ISK. 3. Buy characters from the:
Originally by: Jennifer Starling character bazaar
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Legolas Greenleaf
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Posted - 2011.04.11 02:24:00 -
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You are a terrible troll Xenuria. Really.
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Atra Hasis
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Posted - 2011.04.11 03:14:00 -
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Bad idea, but you are decently hot. 2/10 because you put more effort into your appearance than into your idea.
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Bruce Kemp
Minmatar The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2011.04.11 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kesshisan
Originally by: Jullian Valdexron Dose CCP have any plans of implementing a feature that allows the purchase of skill points by means of plex, isk or irl money?
1. Use RL money to buy PLEX. 2. Sell PLEX for ISK. 3. Buy characters from the:
Originally by: Jennifer Starling character bazaar
Just do this.
Originally by: Lady Spank Minmatar born, Minmatar bred, Strong in the arm, Thick in the head.
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Aichi Awara
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Posted - 2011.04.11 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jullian Valdexron
Originally by: Marley Browning As much as I would love to kill your new titan, in order to keep players in the game this cant happen because when someone spends whatever it is, like 5 grand on a titan pilot and a titan and looses it, i bet they are not gonna stick around to long.
This gets proposed every day.
Yes but imagine how much money CCP would make from something like this. Sure the older players might be butthurt but just think of all the rich new players like me that could spend isk or irl money to train skills instantly.
Proof or gtfo! Or something like that I suppose.
Character bazaar is that way
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My Postman
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Posted - 2011.04.15 11:18:00 -
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Does CCP have any plans to make me unsub?
Worst idea ever and,
Terrible troll.
-205/10 -15 internetz for you
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Mashie Saldana
Minmatar Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.04.15 12:32:00 -
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Oh look, a troll *feeds it*
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Nikita Keriget
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Posted - 2011.04.19 01:17:00 -
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I agree this is a bad idea, but why is everyone ok with the Character Bazaar? There are some limitations (can't change character name/gender/race and sp might not be as efficiently distributed as you'd like) but overall you are buying SP. The Character Bazaar bothers me just as much as this proposal.
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Herrring
Amarr National Quality Breaker
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Posted - 2011.04.19 03:43:00 -
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Originally by: Nikita Keriget I agree this is a bad idea, but why is everyone ok with the Character Bazaar? There are some limitations (can't change character name/gender/race and sp might not be as efficiently distributed as you'd like) but overall you are buying SP. The Character Bazaar bothers me just as much as this proposal.
Because people are going to buy characters anyway regardless of the rules, just make it legal and profit from it.
you seriously think people will train another mom character just for parking?
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Jame Barbosa
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Posted - 2011.04.19 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: Herrring
Originally by: Nikita Keriget I agree this is a bad idea, but why is everyone ok with the Character Bazaar? There are some limitations (can't change character name/gender/race and sp might not be as efficiently distributed as you'd like) but overall you are buying SP. The Character Bazaar bothers me just as much as this proposal.
Because people are going to buy characters anyway regardless of the rules, just make it legal and profit from it.
you seriously think people will train another mom character just for parking?
QFT
I've been in the legit character trading business as long as it's been around. The majority of my customers are actually vets, not newbs looking to convert cash into high sp characters. Bottom line is, the way skill training works in EVE lends itself to character trading and you can't get around that at some level. I've got as much love for my orignial "main," as anyone else, but I would much rather enjoy the game itself than babysit the skillque of one character I created in 2004 because I wanted something new.
Got a cap trained character that's useless because you found out you hate POS bashing? Sell it and buy a subcap specialist. Tired of spewing missiles from your raven, drake, tengu, golem? Sell it and buy a mach pilot. Tired of the pew pew all together and want to try the excel game? Sell your pvp/mission character and invest the isk into a newer indy/trader. Bored with trading and want to retire with a lot of explosions? Get yourself a cheap pvp character and join the militia/rvb.
The positives of character trading far out-weigh the negatives.
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Zan Shiro
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Posted - 2011.04.19 07:31:00 -
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Edited by: Zan Shiro on 19/04/2011 07:31:46
Originally by: Herrring Because people are going to buy characters anyway regardless of the rules, just make it legal and profit from it.
you seriously think people will train another mom character just for parking?
this...ccp like all games knws people will sell chars. So they made it a win-win-win setup.
CCP wins, moar money with fee
Seller wins, doesn't have to worst case ditch a whole account like some other games
Buyer wins....as long as its all in game and isk based, if seller fails to deliver the char, file petition, get money back and ccp deals with the scam seller. Handled very quickly and well from what I hear. Paypal nighmares (becuase say blizzard could give a rats ass I hear)...heard lots from other games.
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rumncock
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Posted - 2011.04.19 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Nikita Keriget I agree this is a bad idea, but why is everyone ok with the Character Bazaar? There are some limitations (can't change character name/gender/race and sp might not be as efficiently distributed as you'd like) but overall you are buying SP. The Character Bazaar bothers me just as much as this proposal.
In an game of power like eve, NOT having such a thing as character bazaar where one of the prime resources (characters) are traded would be ludicrous.
On the same note you could argue for the troll op's idea too I guess but I prefer the slavery/player made instead of spawning from nowhere approach of the bazaar alot.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
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Posted - 2011.04.19 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Nikita Keriget I agree this is a bad idea, but why is everyone ok with the Character Bazaar? There are some limitations (can't change character name/gender/race and sp might not be as efficiently distributed as you'd like) but overall you are buying SP. The Character Bazaar bothers me just as much as this proposal.
At least the Character Bazaar doesn't create skill points. There is the same amount of skill points in the game before and after a trade, and also on the same character. There isn't any skill point inflation.
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Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
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Posted - 2011.04.19 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: Tau Cabalander
Originally by: Nikita Keriget I agree this is a bad idea, but why is everyone ok with the Character Bazaar? There are some limitations (can't change character name/gender/race and sp might not be as efficiently distributed as you'd like) but overall you are buying SP. The Character Bazaar bothers me just as much as this proposal.
At least the Character Bazaar doesn't create skill points. There is the same amount of skill points in the game before and after a trade, and also on the same character. There isn't any skill point inflation.
I really wonder how important is it that there's "no created SP" while there's tens of thousands, probably hundreds of thousands inactive accounts representing billions and billions of SP?
If CCP rather allows selling characters (on the condition that they earn a nice extra penny from it) I rather have it that they also allow transfer of SP or skills between characters. Some of you (like Jame Barbosa) regard characters the same as ships: unimportant, stats is the only important feature, the rest is disposable and just another tool, a means to an end ..
But people with some RP feel would very much like to keep their character as they can relate to it. Sometimes I look at the character bazaar and there's only very silly names and/or uninteresting builds. I'd rather transfer some SP between my characters, even if it's 2:1 - so actually I'd remove SP from the game! The current system is very RP unfriendly but well, EVE is not really known for its catering of RP features (or even logic within RP features) anyway. It's very disappointing sometimes.
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Saint Kamakazie
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Posted - 2011.04.20 01:32:00 -
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Originally by: Jennifer Starling But people with some RP feel would very much like to keep their character as they can relate to it. Sometimes I look at the character bazaar and there's only very silly names and/or uninteresting builds. I'd rather transfer some SP between my characters, even if it's 2:1 - so actually I'd remove SP from the game! The current system is very RP unfriendly but well, EVE is not really known for its catering of RP features (or even logic within RP features) anyway. It's very disappointing sometimes.
RP is a personal limitation on gameplay. If you want to RP an amarr purist and only fly amarr frigates, you're going to be dominated in most matchups (slicer not withstanding). If your fleet was to rp gallente and try to rumble into blaster range against an proper rr bs fleet, they'd be toast before they made it into point range.
The mechanics exist for you to achieve a higher sp character, if you so desire, but you do have to sacrifice that RP notion of self. In a lot of games i'd agree it's tough, but not in EVE. Metagaming is omnipresent, alts are a given, and tradinging un-used or under-utilized characters is a very efficient use of all player's time and effort to achieve the most enjoyment possible without going toward the simple "insert coin: recieve sp," system.
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.04.20 13:37:00 -
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While you are a shameless troll...
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CCP will do it eventually. They will use the same reasoning "You can already buy skillpoints from the Character Bazaar" to justify it as well. ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
Nikita Keriget
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Posted - 2011.04.20 22:25:00 -
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Thanks for the helpful replies regarding how the Character Bazaar is different, makes a lot of sense. I also realized a Plex for SP option could lead to massively high SP players, whereas the Bazaar is capped in that those characters still had to be grown at the normal rate. Plex for SP could allow someone to max every skill in the game. (Although podding them would be fun because of the cost of their med clone) As a newer player I selfishly would like some sort of limited accelerant such as paying a Plex per month to train at double speed, but I see how that would be a slippery slope. As it is, I'm grateful they got rid of learning skills.
If only there was a way to rename a character purchased through the bazaar...
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Xenuria
Gallente Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
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Posted - 2011.04.21 00:44:00 -
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PLEX for SP
CCP would make insane amounts of money.
The Economy would be WAY WAY WAYYY better because people would put all thier isk into PLEX and then turn those plex into SP and effectively take isk out of the game the same way destroying a ship does.
This would cause people like me to buy plex with real life money and then use that plex to get sp.
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Felix Maynard
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Posted - 2011.04.21 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria PLEX for SP
CCP would make insane amounts of money.
The Economy would be WAY WAY WAYYY better because people would put all thier isk into PLEX and then turn those plex into SP and effectively take isk out of the game the same way destroying a ship does.
This would cause people like me to buy plex with real life money and then use that plex to get sp.
Never. Stop. Posting.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.04.21 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria The Economy would be WAY WAY WAYYY better because people would put all thier isk into PLEX and then turn those plex into SP and effectively take isk out of the game the same way destroying a ship does.
Neither ISK nor PLEX (nor ships) work that way, so no it wouldn't. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Xenuria
Gallente Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
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Posted - 2011.04.21 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Xenuria The Economy would be WAY WAY WAYYY better because people would put all thier isk into PLEX and then turn those plex into SP and effectively take isk out of the game the same way destroying a ship does.
Neither ISK nor PLEX (nor ships) work that way, so no it wouldn't.
Still trolling every thread I make a constructive post in I see.
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Xtreem
Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc. Sin City Coalition
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Posted - 2011.04.21 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria PLEX for SP
CCP would make insane amounts of money.
The Economy would be WAY WAY WAYYY better because people would put all thier isk into PLEX and then turn those plex into SP and effectively take isk out of the game the same way destroying a ship does.
This would cause people like me to buy plex with real life money and then use that plex to get sp.
the only way a ship takes money out of the game is if it is insured and does not blow up, insurance adds money to the game as the materials to make the ship are created out of nothing (other than time ofc) thus the insurance money just adds isk to the game
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.04.21 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria Still trolling every thread I make a constructive post in I see.
No. I never did that, nor am I doing it now. I'm doing what I always do: I tell you when you're wrong.
ISK, PLEX and ship loss does not work the way you just described. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Xenuria
Gallente Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
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Posted - 2011.04.21 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Xtreem
Originally by: Xenuria PLEX for SP
CCP would make insane amounts of money.
The Economy would be WAY WAY WAYYY better because people would put all thier isk into PLEX and then turn those plex into SP and effectively take isk out of the game the same way destroying a ship does.
This would cause people like me to buy plex with real life money and then use that plex to get sp.
the only way a ship takes money out of the game is if it is insured and does not blow up, insurance adds money to the game as the materials to make the ship are created out of nothing (other than time ofc) thus the insurance money just adds isk to the game
Ships Cost ISK
You pay ISK for a ship and then the ship gets blown up ISK is eliminated from the game.
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Lost Greybeard
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Posted - 2011.04.21 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria
You pay ISK for a ship and then the ship gets blown up ISK is eliminated from the game.
The way to tell a master troll is in the thread when you know they're trolling, their name is basically synonymous with trolling on the boards involved, and yet they can still cause you to facepalm.
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