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Lorii Reichs
Hakugyokurou
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Posted - 2011.09.27 12:23:00 -
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Where are establishments and the other three quarters? Incanra launched three months ago and we still have literally no reason to turn on station environment.
Three months, and we have only a tiny fraction of what we should have had at launch.
Can we at least get a vague ETA on the rest? |

non judgement
Evolved from the Wreck Flying Burning Ships Alliance
20
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Posted - 2011.09.27 12:58:00 -
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Lorii Reichs wrote:Where are establishments and the other three quarters? Incanra launched three months ago and we still have literally no reason to turn on station environment.
Three months, and we have only a tiny fraction of what we should have had at launch.
Can we at least get a vague ETA on the rest?
I hope they put it off for a bit. I don't think I'm ready to walk around in the same station as you guys... I haven't had my shots. I might catch something.
Lucky Eve doesn't have smell-o-vision... thank god for saving graces eh? |

Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
54
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Posted - 2011.09.27 13:03:00 -
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non judgement wrote:Lorii Reichs wrote:Where are establishments and the other three quarters? Incanra launched three months ago and we still have literally no reason to turn on station environment.
Three months, and we have only a tiny fraction of what we should have had at launch.
Can we at least get a vague ETA on the rest? I hope they put it off for a bit. I don't think I'm ready to walk around in the same station as you guys... I haven't had my shots. I might catch something. Lucky Eve doesn't have smell-o-vision... thank god for saving graces eh?
No fear New Edenian! If we're unlucky racial Capt. Quarters come out for Xmas. Then it'll be a year or more....prolly more with the promise of a little 'soon(tm)' before we get establishments.
We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |

non judgement
Evolved from the Wreck Flying Burning Ships Alliance
20
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Posted - 2011.09.27 13:07:00 -
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Ahhh yes, I can almost smell the sweet fragrance of optimism.
Damn posted in the wrong thread again.. |

malaire
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Posted - 2011.09.27 13:09:00 -
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Lorii Reichs wrote:Can we at least get a vague ETA on the rest? "later this year we plan on deploying the remaining racial quarters to Tranquility as well as the next Incarna feature, establishments." from http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=2355
Carebear -á* -áTrader -á* -áPerfect Music-á-á* -áNever Scamming -á* -áNever Pirating |

IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
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Posted - 2011.09.27 13:13:00 -
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Sssssh, lets let them balance the game and give us ship spinning functionality back before they give us more WoD to test. |

Lorii Reichs
Hakugyokurou
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Posted - 2011.09.27 13:15:00 -
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How about something a little less vague than 'this year, maybe.'
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
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Posted - 2011.09.27 13:23:00 -
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non judgement wrote:
I hope they put it off for a bit. I don't think I'm ready to walk around in the same station as you guys... I haven't had my shots. I might catch something.
Lucky Eve doesn't have smell-o-vision... thank god for saving graces eh?
Do not worry capsuleer. The cloning Facility upaded your latest clone with all the needed shots. Please rest assured that the Facility takes care of all of your clones needs and that you are safe in their hands.
Slade
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CCP Fallout
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.27 13:46:00 -
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At this time, the Community team does not have more information regarding the next stages of Incarna's implementation, specifically the other CQs on Tranquility. We'll try to get more information on this as soon as possible, but I do know that more information is coming sooner rather than later. CCP Fallout Associate Community Manager EVE Online @ccp_fallout |
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
119
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Posted - 2011.09.27 14:04:00 -
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Oh wow, another soon, how generally unsurprising. Almost as informative of all the other dev blogs of late. You do realise that eventually you'll have to say something? - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
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CCP Fallout
C C P C C P Alliance
120

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Posted - 2011.09.27 14:05:00 -
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Ciar Meara wrote:Oh wow, another soon, how generally unsurprising. Almost as informative of all the other dev blogs of late. You do realise that eventually you'll have to say something?
Yes, and I agree with your concern :D CCP Fallout Associate Community Manager EVE Online @ccp_fallout |
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Rees Noturana
Red Rock Mining Company
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Posted - 2011.09.27 14:25:00 -
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CCP Fallout wrote:At this time, the Community team does not have more information regarding the next stages of Incarna's implementation, specifically the other CQs on Tranquility. We'll try to get more information on this as soon as possible, but I do know that more information is coming sooner rather than later.
On Tranquility is strangely emphasized. Does that mean you have knowledge of such matters coming to Singularity?  Rees Noturana // Professional Treasure Hunter |
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CCP Fallout
C C P C C P Alliance
121

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Posted - 2011.09.27 15:01:00 -
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Oh wow, is that a butterfly? Such an odd thing to see out here in the depths of space... CCP Fallout Associate Community Manager EVE Online @ccp_fallout |
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.09.27 15:10:00 -
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CCP Fallout wrote:Oh wow, is that a butterfly? Such an odd thing to see out here in the depths of space...
  
Verone CEO & Executor Veto Corp WWW.VETO-CORP.COM |

Raid'En
Apprentice Innovations
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Posted - 2011.09.27 15:21:00 -
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what i really don't get is why they don't even give us a little photoshoped screenshot... if they are not ready to give us a bugged singularity build, they must at least be ready to give screenshots, photoshop can correct all the errors after all...
hell, maybe given us new concept arts would be something we only had 1 concept of each CQ + 1 of red alliance establishement, totally empty, monnnnnths ago after all |

Nadia Zandria
TechnoCorp
0
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Posted - 2011.09.27 15:25:00 -
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Er, they releases concept arts, and lately a screenshot of the Caldari one...
This one: http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/devblog/2011/Scr1.jpg |

The Snowman
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2011.09.27 15:42:00 -
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Well I've said this before and have yet to see anyone from CCP coment on it.
For Incursions we all knew the plan.. or at least, the intented plan of Incursions release. We were informed about a month ahead of Incursion, the blog explaining It was detailed, informative, it worked..
What has happened within CCP for this working procedure to be halted for Incarna? And will they ever return to it?
The only reason I can see.. which is entirly inplausable, is that nobody knew! noone at all? We understand that specific details cant be given because its all a WiP, but you guys must of had some kind of plan, some idea of what you wanted to accomplish. |
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CCP Fallout
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.27 16:04:00 -
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As Zulu intimated in the dev blog published last week, the company took a good look at where the game was headed and wasn't entirely pleased with the direction it was going. This occurred after we did our release planning, which had some very specific plans for both FiS and Incarna. What we're doing right now is saying "okay, what exactly is it that we need to do next to make EVE the game everyone loves again." We're still making plans on finalizing what will come next, and while we do no some fairly general ideas, the producers and designers really want to make sure we're solid and happy and can present information to you guys that has enough detail that will satiate your appetites.
One of the things the Community team has been working on, Guard in particular, is trying to get bits and pieces out to you guys as quickly as possible. You've seen this most recently with Torfi's blog, and we do hope to have more information from Zulu as soon as possible. I can say that this is one of the Community teams highest priorities. :D CCP Fallout Associate Community Manager EVE Online @ccp_fallout |
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
280
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Posted - 2011.09.27 16:09:00 -
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Lorii Reichs wrote:Where are establishments and the other three quarters? Incanra launched three months ago and we still have literally no reason to turn on station environment.
Three months, and we have only a tiny fraction of what we should have had at launch.
Can we at least get a vague ETA on the rest?
You're not extpecting the Incarna team to actually produce anything with all those resources are you? Don't you realise how much manpower rolling up a 100 ISK note and doing a fat line of vision and inspiration takes?
People like you are why players must not do game design! Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Psychophantic
35
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Posted - 2011.09.27 16:09:00 -
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Plans about plans with some soon gravy. |

mkint
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Posted - 2011.09.27 16:09:00 -
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The Snowman wrote:Well I've said this before and have yet to see anyone from CCP coment on it.
For Incursions we all knew the plan.. or at least, the intented plan of Incursions release. We were informed about a month ahead of Incursion, the blog explaining It was detailed, informative, it worked..
What has happened within CCP for this working procedure to be halted for Incarna? And will they ever return to it?
The only reason I can see.. which is entirly inplausable, is that nobody knew! noone at all? We understand that specific details cant be given because its all a WiP, but you guys must of had some kind of plan, some idea of what you wanted to accomplish. The problem is that CCP STILL doesn't know what the point of walking in stations will be except to be a pain in the ass. Anything we'd be able to do on our feet would be easier to do with a simple window interface (which is also why amazon.com exists). That is, everything except /dance.
That's why in every CSM summit before launch, the incarna devs stonewalled the meetings. That's why for years and years and years the only description was that it was going to be soonGäó and awesomeGäó. In other words, never fully implemented and never having any reason to exist in the first place. No matter how much work CCP puts into incarna, it will never be good. It has no place in EVE. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
280
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Posted - 2011.09.27 16:10:00 -
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CCP Fallout wrote:As Zulu intimated in the dev blog published last week, the company took a good look at where the game was headed and wasn't entirely pleased with the direction it was going. This occurred after we did our release planning, which had some very specific plans for both FiS and Incarna. What we're doing right now is saying "okay, what exactly is it that we need to do next to make EVE the game everyone loves again." We're still making plans on finalizing what will come next, and while we do no some fairly general ideas, the producers and designers really want to make sure we're solid and happy and can present information to you guys that has enough detail that will satiate your appetites.
One of the things the Community team has been working on, Guard in particular, is trying to get bits and pieces out to you guys as quickly as possible. You've seen this most recently with Torfi's blog, and we do hope to have more information from Zulu as soon as possible. I can say that this is one of the Community teams highest priorities. :D
That doesn't answer the question of what the Incarna team has actually delivered in the period between the Incarna rollout and the time this "introspection" started.
I'll make this really simple: have they produced anything that is ready to roll out onto the server since then? Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

cpu939
Volatile Nature White Noise.
1
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Posted - 2011.09.27 16:12:00 -
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The Snowman wrote:Well I've said this before and have yet to see anyone from CCP coment on it.
For Incursions we all knew the plan.. or at least, the intented plan of Incursions release. We were informed about a month ahead of Incursion, the blog explaining It was detailed, informative, it worked..
What has happened within CCP for this working procedure to be halted for Incarna? And will they ever return to it?
The only reason I can see.. which is entirly inplausable, is that nobody knew! noone at all? We understand that specific details cant be given because its all a WiP, but you guys must of had some kind of plan, some idea of what you wanted to accomplish.
what the set out to accomplish with incarna was getting more money to spend on WOD & DUST while we alpha test the stuff for them.
i'll be honest i was one of the few looking forward to incarna but ccp let us all down by providing a crap product |
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CCP Fallout
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.27 16:18:00 -
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Mal, yes, the remaining CQs. Those will go into testing, but I do not yet have a solid date for when that will be. That was what my italics were hinting at earlier at the thread, but I've said "we don't know yet... soon" so many times it's almost to the point of serious offense to you guys, which is a line I'd rather not cross personally. CCP Fallout Associate Community Manager EVE Online @ccp_fallout |
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Rees Noturana
Red Rock Mining Company
25
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Posted - 2011.09.27 16:26:00 -
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CCP Fallout wrote:Mal, yes, the remaining CQs. Those will go into testing, but I do not yet have a solid date for when that will be. That was what my italics were hinting at earlier at the thread, but I've said "we don't know yet... soon" so many times it's almost to the point of serious offense to you guys, which is a line I'd rather not cross personally.
Yeah, dates can come back to bite you. (/me looks at own schedule)
Is the new plan figured out or is it an ongoing process? The last I heard from Guard was that there were blogs in the pipeline so I'm curious if we're about to find out about the new plan or if we should expect it to take awhile.
Rees Noturana // Professional Treasure Hunter |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
280
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Posted - 2011.09.27 16:36:00 -
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CCP Fallout wrote:Mal, yes, the remaining CQs. Those will go into testing, but I do not yet have a solid date for when that will be. That was what my italics were hinting at earlier at the thread, but I've said "we don't know yet... soon" so many times it's almost to the point of serious offense to you guys, which is a line I'd rather not cross personally.
That kind of sounds like those 3 CQs aren't ready to me, but let's OK, roll with that. I wonder if you'd like to tell us how many dev teams it took to finish off doing 3 reskins of the CQ in just three months after the expansion launched? (I won't ask about establishments or player shop fronts or anything like that, I promise)
It would be genuinely interesting to compare that with the length of time and number of Devs with which CCP propose to produce the entire winter expansion on which so many of our hopes rest.
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Junky Juke
Delta Division.
5
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Posted - 2011.09.27 16:41:00 -
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CCP Fallout wrote:As Zulu intimated in the dev blog published last week, the company took a good look at where the game was headed and wasn't entirely pleased with the direction it was going. This occurred after we did our release planning, which had some very specific plans for both FiS and Incarna. What we're doing right now is saying "okay, what exactly is it that we need to do next to make EVE the game everyone loves again." We're still making plans on finalizing what will come next, and while we do no some fairly general ideas, the producers and designers really want to make sure we're solid and happy and can present information to you guys that has enough detail that will satiate your appetites.
One of the things the Community team has been working on, Guard in particular, is trying to get bits and pieces out to you guys as quickly as possible. You've seen this most recently with Torfi's blog, and we do hope to have more information from Zulu as soon as possible. I can say that this is one of the Community teams highest priorities. :D
OK here is my suggestion:
1: Fix obvious and known bugs and give us a megapatch that resolves ALL the obvious and known issues in one-shot.
2: Balance the unbalanced stuff
3: Complete all unfinished stuff
4: Deploy new stuff
goto 1
While you do all that sfuff (step 1, 2, 3) you will have all the time you need to meditate on what to do in your next expansion.
Every time you will have succes in one of the steps:
1: We will be happy to play EVE
2: You will receive gratification and profit from EVE
goto 1

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CCP Fallout
C C P C C P Alliance
124

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Posted - 2011.09.27 16:45:00 -
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Spoke with Guard and he will see if he can get a blog written that goes into some detail about the creation of the CQs. _NO PROMISES_. He'll try, like I said, but tbh I'm not aware of their current workload and if they have a slot for a blog atm. Sometimes a team has a lot on their plate and don't have the time to write blogs CCP Fallout Associate Community Manager EVE Online @ccp_fallout |
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adopt
The Deathwatch Legion
16
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Posted - 2011.09.27 16:51:00 -
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SoonGäó |

Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
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Posted - 2011.09.27 16:56:00 -
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CCP Fallout wrote:Mal, yes, the remaining CQs. Those will go into testing, but I do not yet have a solid date for when that will be. That was what my italics were hinting at earlier at the thread, but I've said "we don't know yet... soon" so many times it's almost to the point of serious offense to you guys, which is a line I'd rather not cross personally.
Thanks for the communication Fallout.
How about a Pony thread while we all wait?  NOSTRO AURUM NON EST AURUM VULGI |
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