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Lorii Reichs Hakugyokurou 0	Posted - 2011.09.27 12:23:00 - [1] - Quote Where are establishments and the other three quarters? Incanra launched three months ago and we still have literally no reason to turn on station environment. Three months, and we have only a tiny fraction of what we should have had at launch. Can we at least get a vague ETA on the rest?
non judgement Evolved from the Wreck Flying Burning Ships Alliance 20	Posted - 2011.09.27 12:58:00 - [2] - Quote Lorii Reichs wrote: Where are establishments and the other three quarters? Incanra launched three months ago and we still have literally no reason to turn on station environment. Three months, and we have only a tiny fraction of what we should have had at launch. Can we at least get a vague ETA on the rest? I hope they put it off for a bit. I don't think I'm ready to walk around in the same station as you guys... I haven't had my shots. I might catch something. Lucky Eve doesn't have smell-o-vision... thank god for saving graces eh?
Mr Kidd Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 54	Posted - 2011.09.27 13:03:00 - [3] - Quote non judgement wrote: Lorii Reichs wrote: Where are establishments and the other three quarters? Incanra launched three months ago and we still have literally no reason to turn on station environment. Three months, and we have only a tiny fraction of what we should have had at launch. Can we at least get a vague ETA on the rest? I hope they put it off for a bit. I don't think I'm ready to walk around in the same station as you guys... I haven't had my shots. I might catch something. Lucky Eve doesn't have smell-o-vision... thank god for saving graces eh? No fear New Edenian! If we're unlucky racial Capt. Quarters come out for Xmas. Then it'll be a year or more....prolly more with the promise of a little 'soon(tm)' before we get establishments. We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX!
non judgement Evolved from the Wreck Flying Burning Ships Alliance 20	Posted - 2011.09.27 13:07:00 - [4] - Quote Ahhh yes, I can almost smell the sweet fragrance of optimism. Damn posted in the wrong thread again..
malaire 64	Posted - 2011.09.27 13:09:00 - [5] - Quote Lorii Reichs wrote: Can we at least get a vague ETA on the rest? "later this year we plan on deploying the remaining racial quarters to Tranquility as well as the next Incarna feature, establishments." from http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=2355 Carebear -á* -áTrader -á* -áPerfect Music-á-á* -áNever Scamming -á* -áNever Pirating
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 18	Posted - 2011.09.27 13:13:00 - [6] - Quote Sssssh, lets let them balance the game and give us ship spinning functionality back before they give us more WoD to test.
Lorii Reichs Hakugyokurou 0	Posted - 2011.09.27 13:15:00 - [7] - Quote malaire wrote: Lorii Reichs wrote: Can we at least get a vague ETA on the rest? "later this year we plan on deploying the remaining racial quarters to Tranquility as well as the next Incarna feature, establishments." from http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=2355 How about something a little less vague than 'this year, maybe.'
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc. 12	Posted - 2011.09.27 13:23:00 - [8] - Quote non judgement wrote: I hope they put it off for a bit. I don't think I'm ready to walk around in the same station as you guys... I haven't had my shots. I might catch something. Lucky Eve doesn't have smell-o-vision... thank god for saving graces eh? Do not worry capsuleer. The cloning Facility upaded your latest clone with all the needed shots. Please rest assured that the Facility takes care of all of your clones needs and that you are safe in their hands. Slade

CCP Fallout C C P C C P Alliance 120	Posted - 2011.09.27 13:46:00 - [9] - Quote At this time, the Community team does not have more information regarding the next stages of Incarna's implementation, specifically the other CQs on Tranquility. We'll try to get more information on this as soon as possible, but I do know that more information is coming sooner rather than later. CCP Fallout Associate Community Manager EVE Online @ccp_fallout

Ciar Meara Virtus Vindice 119	Posted - 2011.09.27 14:04:00 - [10] - Quote Oh wow, another soon, how generally unsurprising. Almost as informative of all the other dev blogs of late. You do realise that eventually you'll have to say something? - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow]

CCP Fallout C C P C C P Alliance 120	Posted - 2011.09.27 14:05:00 - [11] - Quote Ciar Meara wrote: Oh wow, another soon, how generally unsurprising. Almost as informative of all the other dev blogs of late. You do realise that eventually you'll have to say something? Yes, and I agree with your concern :D CCP Fallout Associate Community Manager EVE Online @ccp_fallout

Rees Noturana Red Rock Mining Company 24	Posted - 2011.09.27 14:25:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Fallout wrote: At this time, the Community team does not have more information regarding the next stages of Incarna's implementation, specifically the other CQs on Tranquility. We'll try to get more information on this as soon as possible, but I do know that more information is coming sooner rather than later. On Tranquility is strangely emphasized. Does that mean you have knowledge of such matters coming to Singularity? Rees Noturana // Professional Treasure Hunter

CCP Fallout C C P C C P Alliance 121	Posted - 2011.09.27 15:01:00 - [13] - Quote Oh wow, is that a butterfly? Such an odd thing to see out here in the depths of space... CCP Fallout Associate Community Manager EVE Online @ccp_fallout

Verone Veto Corp 47	Posted - 2011.09.27 15:10:00 - [14] - Quote CCP Fallout wrote: Oh wow, is that a butterfly? Such an odd thing to see out here in the depths of space... Verone CEO & Executor Veto Corp WWW.VETO-CORP.COM
Raid'En Apprentice Innovations 44	Posted - 2011.09.27 15:21:00 - [15] - Quote what i really don't get is why they don't even give us a little photoshoped screenshot... if they are not ready to give us a bugged singularity build, they must at least be ready to give screenshots, photoshop can correct all the errors after all... hell, maybe given us new concept arts would be something we only had 1 concept of each CQ + 1 of red alliance establishement, totally empty, monnnnnths ago after all
Nadia Zandria TechnoCorp 0	Posted - 2011.09.27 15:25:00 - [16] - Quote Er, they releases concept arts, and lately a screenshot of the Caldari one... This one: http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/devblog/2011/Scr1.jpg
The Snowman Aliastra Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2011.09.27 15:42:00 - [17] - Quote Well I've said this before and have yet to see anyone from CCP coment on it. For Incursions we all knew the plan.. or at least, the intented plan of Incursions release. We were informed about a month ahead of Incursion, the blog explaining It was detailed, informative, it worked.. What has happened within CCP for this working procedure to be halted for Incarna? And will they ever return to it? The only reason I can see.. which is entirly inplausable, is that nobody knew! noone at all? We understand that specific details cant be given because its all a WiP, but you guys must of had some kind of plan, some idea of what you wanted to accomplish.

CCP Fallout C C P C C P Alliance 123	Posted - 2011.09.27 16:04:00 - [18] - Quote As Zulu intimated in the dev blog published last week, the company took a good look at where the game was headed and wasn't entirely pleased with the direction it was going. This occurred after we did our release planning, which had some very specific plans for both FiS and Incarna. What we're doing right now is saying "okay, what exactly is it that we need to do next to make EVE the game everyone loves again." We're still making plans on finalizing what will come next, and while we do no some fairly general ideas, the producers and designers really want to make sure we're solid and happy and can present information to you guys that has enough detail that will satiate your appetites. One of the things the Community team has been working on, Guard in particular, is trying to get bits and pieces out to you guys as quickly as possible. You've seen this most recently with Torfi's blog, and we do hope to have more information from Zulu as soon as possible. I can say that this is one of the Community teams highest priorities. :D CCP Fallout Associate Community Manager EVE Online @ccp_fallout

Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 280	Posted - 2011.09.27 16:09:00 - [19] - Quote Lorii Reichs wrote: Where are establishments and the other three quarters? Incanra launched three months ago and we still have literally no reason to turn on station environment. Three months, and we have only a tiny fraction of what we should have had at launch. Can we at least get a vague ETA on the rest? You're not extpecting the Incarna team to actually produce anything with all those resources are you? Don't you realise how much manpower rolling up a 100 ISK note and doing a fat line of vision and inspiration takes? People like you are why players must not do game design! Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Psychophantic 35	Posted - 2011.09.27 16:09:00 - [20] - Quote Plans about plans with some soon gravy.
mkint 73	Posted - 2011.09.27 16:09:00 - [21] - Quote The Snowman wrote: Well I've said this before and have yet to see anyone from CCP coment on it. For Incursions we all knew the plan.. or at least, the intented plan of Incursions release. We were informed about a month ahead of Incursion, the blog explaining It was detailed, informative, it worked.. What has happened within CCP for this working procedure to be halted for Incarna? And will they ever return to it? The only reason I can see.. which is entirly inplausable, is that nobody knew! noone at all? We understand that specific details cant be given because its all a WiP, but you guys must of had some kind of plan, some idea of what you wanted to accomplish. The problem is that CCP STILL doesn't know what the point of walking in stations will be except to be a pain in the ass. Anything we'd be able to do on our feet would be easier to do with a simple window interface (which is also why amazon.com exists). That is, everything except /dance. That's why in every CSM summit before launch, the incarna devs stonewalled the meetings. That's why for years and years and years the only description was that it was going to be soonGäó and awesomeGäó. In other words, never fully implemented and never having any reason to exist in the first place. No matter how much work CCP puts into incarna, it will never be good. It has no place in EVE.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 280	Posted - 2011.09.27 16:10:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Fallout wrote: As Zulu intimated in the dev blog published last week, the company took a good look at where the game was headed and wasn't entirely pleased with the direction it was going. This occurred after we did our release planning, which had some very specific plans for both FiS and Incarna. What we're doing right now is saying "okay, what exactly is it that we need to do next to make EVE the game everyone loves again." We're still making plans on finalizing what will come next, and while we do no some fairly general ideas, the producers and designers really want to make sure we're solid and happy and can present information to you guys that has enough detail that will satiate your appetites. One of the things the Community team has been working on, Guard in particular, is trying to get bits and pieces out to you guys as quickly as possible. You've seen this most recently with Torfi's blog, and we do hope to have more information from Zulu as soon as possible. I can say that this is one of the Community teams highest priorities. :D That doesn't answer the question of what the Incarna team has actually delivered in the period between the Incarna rollout and the time this "introspection" started. I'll make this really simple: have they produced anything that is ready to roll out onto the server since then? Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
cpu939 Volatile Nature White Noise. 1	Posted - 2011.09.27 16:12:00 - [23] - Quote The Snowman wrote: Well I've said this before and have yet to see anyone from CCP coment on it. For Incursions we all knew the plan.. or at least, the intented plan of Incursions release. We were informed about a month ahead of Incursion, the blog explaining It was detailed, informative, it worked.. What has happened within CCP for this working procedure to be halted for Incarna? And will they ever return to it? The only reason I can see.. which is entirly inplausable, is that nobody knew! noone at all? We understand that specific details cant be given because its all a WiP, but you guys must of had some kind of plan, some idea of what you wanted to accomplish. what the set out to accomplish with incarna was getting more money to spend on WOD & DUST while we alpha test the stuff for them. i'll be honest i was one of the few looking forward to incarna but ccp let us all down by providing a crap product

CCP Fallout C C P C C P Alliance 123	Posted - 2011.09.27 16:18:00 - [24] - Quote Mal, yes, the remaining CQs. Those will go into testing, but I do not yet have a solid date for when that will be. That was what my italics were hinting at earlier at the thread, but I've said "we don't know yet... soon" so many times it's almost to the point of serious offense to you guys, which is a line I'd rather not cross personally. CCP Fallout Associate Community Manager EVE Online @ccp_fallout

Rees Noturana Red Rock Mining Company 25	Posted - 2011.09.27 16:26:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Fallout wrote: Mal, yes, the remaining CQs. Those will go into testing, but I do not yet have a solid date for when that will be. That was what my italics were hinting at earlier at the thread, but I've said "we don't know yet... soon" so many times it's almost to the point of serious offense to you guys, which is a line I'd rather not cross personally. Yeah, dates can come back to bite you. (/me looks at own schedule) Is the new plan figured out or is it an ongoing process? The last I heard from Guard was that there were blogs in the pipeline so I'm curious if we're about to find out about the new plan or if we should expect it to take awhile. Rees Noturana // Professional Treasure Hunter
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 280	Posted - 2011.09.27 16:36:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Fallout wrote: Mal, yes, the remaining CQs. Those will go into testing, but I do not yet have a solid date for when that will be. That was what my italics were hinting at earlier at the thread, but I've said "we don't know yet... soon" so many times it's almost to the point of serious offense to you guys, which is a line I'd rather not cross personally. That kind of sounds like those 3 CQs aren't ready to me, but let's OK, roll with that. I wonder if you'd like to tell us how many dev teams it took to finish off doing 3 reskins of the CQ in just three months after the expansion launched? (I won't ask about establishments or player shop fronts or anything like that, I promise) It would be genuinely interesting to compare that with the length of time and number of Devs with which CCP propose to produce the entire winter expansion on which so many of our hopes rest. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Junky Juke Delta Division. 5	Posted - 2011.09.27 16:41:00 - [27] - Quote CCP Fallout wrote: As Zulu intimated in the dev blog published last week, the company took a good look at where the game was headed and wasn't entirely pleased with the direction it was going. This occurred after we did our release planning, which had some very specific plans for both FiS and Incarna. What we're doing right now is saying "okay, what exactly is it that we need to do next to make EVE the game everyone loves again." We're still making plans on finalizing what will come next, and while we do no some fairly general ideas, the producers and designers really want to make sure we're solid and happy and can present information to you guys that has enough detail that will satiate your appetites. One of the things the Community team has been working on, Guard in particular, is trying to get bits and pieces out to you guys as quickly as possible. You've seen this most recently with Torfi's blog, and we do hope to have more information from Zulu as soon as possible. I can say that this is one of the Community teams highest priorities. :D OK here is my suggestion: 1: Fix obvious and known bugs and give us a megapatch that resolves ALL the obvious and known issues in one-shot. 2: Balance the unbalanced stuff 3: Complete all unfinished stuff 4: Deploy new stuff goto 1 While you do all that sfuff (step 1, 2, 3) you will have all the time you need to meditate on what to do in your next expansion. Every time you will have succes in one of the steps: 1: We will be happy to play EVE 2: You will receive gratification and profit from EVE goto 1

CCP Fallout C C P C C P Alliance 124	Posted - 2011.09.27 16:45:00 - [28] - Quote Spoke with Guard and he will see if he can get a blog written that goes into some detail about the creation of the CQs. _NO PROMISES_. He'll try, like I said, but tbh I'm not aware of their current workload and if they have a slot for a blog atm. Sometimes a team has a lot on their plate and don't have the time to write blogs CCP Fallout Associate Community Manager EVE Online @ccp_fallout

adopt The Deathwatch Legion 16	Posted - 2011.09.27 16:51:00 - [29] - Quote SoonGäó
Bloodpetal Mimidae Risk Solutions 40	Posted - 2011.09.27 16:56:00 - [30] - Quote CCP Fallout wrote: Mal, yes, the remaining CQs. Those will go into testing, but I do not yet have a solid date for when that will be. That was what my italics were hinting at earlier at the thread, but I've said "we don't know yet... soon" so many times it's almost to the point of serious offense to you guys, which is a line I'd rather not cross personally. Thanks for the communication Fallout. How about a Pony thread while we all wait? NOSTRO AURUM NON EST AURUM VULGI
Junky Juke Delta Division. 5	Posted - 2011.09.27 16:58:00 - [31] - Quote adopt wrote: SoonGäó If I'd answer "SoonGäó" to my boss asking me "When will you bring me that project?" it would fire me immediately
Jokerface666 Ever Flow Northern Coalition. 18	Posted - 2011.09.27 16:59:00 - [32] - Quote As long as fixes are comming, and stuff gets balanced, i do not care, i can wait for incarna another 4 years. thx for doing the right thing and focusing on important stuff. ------------------------------w00t w00t rapetrain------------------------------
adopt The Deathwatch Legion 16	Posted - 2011.09.27 17:08:00 - [33] - Quote Junky Juke wrote: adopt wrote: SoonGäó If I'd answer "SoonGäó" to my boss asking me "When will you bring me that project?" it would fire me immediately >it would fire me immediately >it would fire >it would >it Lol.
Obsidian Hawk RONA Corporation RONA Directorate 114	Posted - 2011.09.27 17:18:00 - [34] - Quote Who cares about the other cq atm. We are getting cynos FONTS new fonts! ones that are readable! engine trails soon! give them a break i can deal with minmatar for a while longer if they bring back the cooler stuff.

CCP Fallout C C P C C P Alliance 129	Posted - 2011.09.27 17:56:00 - [35] - Quote Quick response to Junk while I'm chowing down: you just pretty much described Team Best Friend Forever's ongoing work :D CCP Fallout Associate Community Manager EVE Online @ccp_fallout

Igualmentedos Shadow Veil Industrial Shadow Directive 0	Posted - 2011.09.27 18:06:00 - [36] - Quote I'm glad CCP is actively replying to the players and generally being as helpful as possible. I'd much rather CCP take their time, instead of rushing a project. Thank you Fallout for being helpful. But we'll see what actually happens down the road!
Luckytania Bullets of Justice 12	Posted - 2011.09.27 18:09:00 - [37] - Quote CCP Fallout wrote: ... but I've said "we don't know yet... soon" so many times it's almost to the point of serious offense to you guys, which is a line I'd rather not cross personally. Atta-boy to you Fallout. (Seriously, this is a difficult time, so I'm sending you a good word.) At this point CCP is on thin ice and the best you can do in the short term is damage control. Y'all need to re-establish some level of credibility/trust. (And PR spin / dancing perilously close to lies won't do it. Not accusing you of that. Just saying that that is the perception which CCP must recover from.) You are doing a better job communicating with the players / us than some others, and I wish you luck. I really would like to continue playing this game for the long term. (But playing for the long term requires some level of confidence that there will be a game I wish to play/pay for a long term.) Again, good luck and I hope CCP can turn this ship to an acceptable direction in time.

CCP Fallout C C P C C P Alliance 129	Posted - 2011.09.27 18:09:00 - [38] - Quote Igualmentedos wrote: But we'll see what actually happens down the road! That's really all that matters in the end, tbh :) CCP Fallout Associate Community Manager EVE Online @ccp_fallout

TriadSte Thr33lance Incorp 6	Posted - 2011.09.27 18:09:00 - [39] - Quote Although I feel I'm quite the hated figure on these boards, hell I know I've annoyed many GMs Devs etc :) I have a few things to ask and Its serious with zero sarcasm....honestly non at all! I swear.... A. If theres no time to a blog, what are you guys doing? You make the CCP offices sound super busy. A blog takes 10 minutes of typing given that you already know what the content is gonna be it should be a quick and easy way to make the community happy. Ask me to talk about my profession and right off the bat I could give you an essay without a second thought, surely a blog from you guys should be the same? B. The new CQs look great! I'm glad that ramp is being taken away and it also looks more polished but if i may, are you attempting to cut down the GPU load for when these go live? I think many will agree that CQ right now uses alot of GPU and this should for sure be a front line thing to look into fixing.
Renan Ruivo Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance 25	Posted - 2011.09.27 18:15:00 - [40] - Quote Confusing, much? The community asks for CCP to take their focus away from Incarna and spend resources developing FiS. They apparently listened and are doing exactly that. Now you ask where is the rest of incarna? Then you wonder why CCP has no idea what ticks its playerbase? Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand.

CCP Fallout C C P C C P Alliance 129	Posted - 2011.09.27 18:17:00 - [41] - Quote Some things to keep in mind: at CCP, English is not everyone's first language. This isn't just true for the art teams, but for many of them. At the same time, some people are naturally gifted writers, and some aren't. If I know what I'm going to write, I can do 1750 words in about 40 minutes. It's easy for me because I write well, and English is my first language, and I write daily by hand about 30 minutes per day. The second question I can't answer. I work remotely, so I've neither seen nor experienced any of the new CQs yet. CCP Fallout Associate Community Manager EVE Online @ccp_fallout

TriadSte Thr33lance Incorp 6	Posted - 2011.09.27 18:18:00 - [42] - Quote Not really... Firstly I aksed about a blog mentioned by fallout in a previous post I then spoke about the "new" racial CQs which CCP are currently working on and GPU load with these new CQs. Both I think are relevant, no? EDIT : Thank you for you reply Fallout its very much appreciated!
Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. 45	Posted - 2011.09.27 18:21:00 - [43] - Quote CCP Fallout wrote: .............. but I've said "we don't know yet... soon" so many times it's almost to the point of serious offense to you guys, which is a line I'd rather not cross personally. Try replacing "soon" with a very broad time frame, like Minutes Hours Days Weeks Months So, for example, you could say you expect the other CQ's to show up on TQ sometime in the next few weeks (or months if thats more realistic), and on Sisi in the next few days (Or weeks if thats more realistic). This way we get some idea of the schedule, but you do not have to define a deadline. Other examples: We will be ready for the next step in this mass test in a few minutes We plan to get the server back up in a few hours We should have this feature ready for your testing on Sisi in a few days Expect this rebalancing to be on TQ in a few weeks This feature will appear on TQ in a expansion in a few months CCP employees should never proclaim a feature to be awesome. Only subscribers should.
Luckytania Bullets of Justice 12	Posted - 2011.09.27 18:21:00 - [44] - Quote TriadSte wrote: If theres no time to a blog, what are you guys doing? You make the CCP offices sound super busy. Frankly, my bet is that they are scared to the point of making messes in their pants and really want to do something correctly. To the point where they want to honestly and accurately tell us "this is what we are intending to do and this is our first approximation estimate of how we'll get there and how long it will take". To that end, they are really trying to get their ducks in a row, IMO, and that does take some time. (As I've mentioned elsewhere, we shouldn't expect that 'all well be made well' by/in the 'Winter Expansion'.) They need to mollify us and rectify the subscription situation or there just won't be enough money to complete Dust and WoD. (I don't really care about that as a paying Eve Online customer - but that is their business plan and I do understand that pressure.) At this point, CCP might well be concerned about the continued existence of their business - period. Under that type of pressure it is best to say little rather than glibly say the wrong thing and cause a few hundred more unsubs. (:rabble:)
Baaldor Black Sail Anarchists Yarr Collective 4	Posted - 2011.09.27 18:22:00 - [45] - Quote Junky Juke wrote: it would fire me immediately Your boss is Chaz Bono?
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 280	Posted - 2011.09.27 18:45:00 - [46] - Quote Renan Ruivo wrote: Confusing, much? The community asks for CCP to take their focus away from Incarna and spend resources developing FiS. They apparently listened and are doing exactly that. Now you ask where is the rest of incarna? Then you wonder why CCP has no idea what ticks its playerbase? No, we're asking what has been produced with all those resources up until now. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Junky Juke Delta Division. 5	Posted - 2011.09.27 18:57:00 - [47] - Quote CCP Fallout wrote: Quick response to Junk while I'm chowing down: you just pretty much described Team Best Friend Forever's ongoing work :D Target centered? Really? Nice! Did I won something? pherhaps a brand new faction battleship? very comforting, thank you
Ammzi Imperial Guardians Blazing Angels Alliance 27	Posted - 2011.09.27 19:07:00 - [48] - Quote Junky Juke wrote: @Baaldor: LOL... and I meant "he" not "it"! Sure you did. I laughed my ass off!
Khira Kitamatsu 195	Posted - 2011.09.27 19:27:00 - [49] - Quote CCP Fallout wrote: As Zulu intimated in the dev blog published last week, the company took a good look at where the game was headed and wasn't entirely pleased with the direction it was going. This occurred after we did our release planning, which had some very specific plans for both FiS and Incarna. What we're doing right now is saying "okay, what exactly is it that we need to do next to make EVE the game everyone loves again." We're still making plans on finalizing what will come next, and while we do no some fairly general ideas, the producers and designers really want to make sure we're solid and happy and can present information to you guys that has enough detail that will satiate your appetites. One of the things the Community team has been working on, Guard in particular, is trying to get bits and pieces out to you guys as quickly as possible. You've seen this most recently with Torfi's blog, and we do hope to have more information from Zulu as soon as possible. I can say that this is one of the Community teams highest priorities. :D So Incarna will stay unfinished. WiS will be one room CQ of Minmatar build and everything else will be trashed. Figures. Typical of CCP, release unfinished and bugging expansions. Ponies!-á We need more ponies!
Ryunosuke Kusanagi 3	Posted - 2011.09.27 19:30:00 - [50] - Quote CCP Fallout wrote: Some things to keep in mind: at CCP, English is not everyone's first language. This isn't just true for the art teams, but for many of them. At the same time, some people are naturally gifted writers, and some aren't. If I know what I'm going to write, I can do 1750 words in about 40 minutes. It's easy for me because I write well, and English is my first language, and I write daily by hand about 30 minutes per day. The second question I can't answer. I work remotely, so I've neither seen nor experienced any of the new CQs yet. A lot of people forget this point, even me. Having people work at a company where they speak multiple primary languages, a) creates confusion within the company, and it make for communications between teams .... rather uneasy. 2) While I would like regular blog updates on various projects, what you said is not untrue, time constraints, the ability of the writer to put words from their heads onto paper / web and translating them takes time, especially when phrases from one language does not directly translate into English... Russian... Spanish... Etc. I think, like the Inuit, Icelanders have 500 words for fish ;)
Rees Noturana Red Rock Mining Company 25	Posted - 2011.09.27 19:32:00 - [51] - Quote Khira Kitamatsu wrote: So Incarna will stay unfinished. WiS will be one room CQ of Mimmatar build and everything else will be trashed. Figures. Typical of CCP, release unfinished and bugging expansions. You're jumping to conclusions. Official word is being released soon. We'll be seeing the other three CQ but no word yet about the rest of Incarna. Rees Noturana // Professional Treasure Hunter
Jaiimez Skor Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 3	Posted - 2011.09.27 19:39:00 - [52] - Quote CCP Fallout wrote: As Zulu intimated in the dev blog published last week, the company took a good look at where the game was headed and wasn't entirely pleased with the direction it was going. This occurred after we did our release planning, which had some very specific plans for both FiS and Incarna. What we're doing right now is saying "okay, what exactly is it that we need to do next to make EVE the game everyone loves again." We're still making plans on finalizing what will come next, and while we do no some fairly general ideas, the producers and designers really want to make sure we're solid and happy and can present information to you guys that has enough detail that will satiate your appetites. One of the things the Community team has been working on, Guard in particular, is trying to get bits and pieces out to you guys as quickly as possible. You've seen this most recently with Torfi's blog, and we do hope to have more information from Zulu as soon as possible. I can say that this is one of the Community teams highest priorities. :D In all honesty I am with those who are standing up for CCP on this topic, I for one am not massively interested in Incarna, maybe ONCE it's finished with all establishments it might be worth my time, but releasing it in small groups like currently is just putting me off, there is nothing exciting about CQ after the first 15 minutes of being in it. However I am glad to see that CCP have responded to the CSM's comments and the criticism that FiS is being neglected, and that the number of new players from incarna have been so little it has not been noticed and if anything has caused the game to lose more players than it has gained. I can happily wait another year or two for the rest of incarna, possibly for it to even come out in 1 go, with all the other races CQ AND the establishments to give us something to actually do in station, and for now release the kind of stuff players are asking for.
Mr Kidd Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 56	Posted - 2011.09.27 20:09:00 - [53] - Quote CCP Fallout wrote: As Zulu intimated in the dev blog published last week, the company took a good look at where the game was headed and wasn't entirely pleased with the direction it was going. This occurred after we did our release planning, which had some very specific plans for both FiS and Incarna. What we're doing right now is saying "okay, what exactly is it that we need to do next to make EVE the game everyone loves again." We're still making plans on finalizing what will come next, and while we do no some fairly general ideas, the producers and designers really want to make sure we're solid and happy and can present information to you guys that has enough detail that will satiate your appetites. One of the things the Community team has been working on, Guard in particular, is trying to get bits and pieces out to you guys as quickly as possible. You've seen this most recently with Torfi's blog, and we do hope to have more information from Zulu as soon as possible. I can say that this is one of the Community teams highest priorities. :D Allow me to translate this. I think it's very telling: As Zulu intimated in the dev blog published last week, the company took a good look at where the player numbers were headed and wasn't entirely pleased with the direction it was going. This occurred after we did our release planning, which had some very specific plans for both FiS and Incarna. What we're doing right now is saying "okay, Incarna and the NeX isn't going to make EVE the game everyone loves." We're still making plans to release the racial CQ's, but beyond that, and as usual, CCP has become bored with the plan and iteration of said plan and really wants to move on to the next 'great' idea. One of the things the Community team has been working on, Guard in particular, is trying to get bits and pieces out to you guys as quickly as possible. You've seen this most recently with Torfi's blog, and we do hope to have more information from Zulu as soon as possible. I can say that this is one of the Community teams highest priorities. :D If we run this through a secondary and tertiary translation filter I believe we might also learn that CCP has concluded that anything beyond a 4' x 8' room, otherwise known as a jail cell, and more than one avatar is technically infeasible and ultimately detrimental to gameplay without everyone forking out thousands of dollars for bleeding edge gaming rigs. Ultimately, the Eve playerbase would be obliterated into a few hundred rich kids and the devs. We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX!
Cyra Mangeiri Republic University Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2011.09.27 20:16:00 - [54] - Quote Junky Juke wrote: adopt wrote: SoonGäó If I'd answer "SoonGäó" to my boss asking me "When will you bring me that project?" it would fire me immediately Whenever I say "when it's done, stop pestering me if you want things done" to my boss, he gets this sheepish look on his face and goes away muttering. There's only so much you get accomplished by prodding all the time, sometimes you actually have to let people work on things instead of delivering constant progress reports. Unlike most employers seem to think, those reports take up work time from the actual work that could be done meanwhile. Just saying..
KaarBaak 40	Posted - 2011.09.27 20:23:00 - [55] - Quote It sounds to me (in my completely uneducated opinion) that development at CCP is stuck in some hybrid netherworld between "agile" and old-school "waterfall" type processes. I remember a lot of talk about going "agile" with your scrum teams and whatnot, but you seem to have abandon that path? Not debating the validity of one process over another...just seems like there isn't a "process" in place at all at the moment. But again, I'm way on the outside (my secret CCP cafeteria webcam has been on the blink since that volcano incident) but can we at least assume development isn't being drawn and quartered by four management horses pulling to the compass points?
Junky Juke Delta Division. 5	Posted - 2011.09.27 20:39:00 - [56] - Quote Cyra Mangeiri wrote: Whenever I say "when it's done, stop pestering me if you want things done" to my boss, he gets this sheepish look on his face and goes away muttering. There's only so much you get accomplished by prodding all the time, sometimes you actually have to let people work on things instead of delivering constant progress reports. Unlike most employers seem to think, those reports take up work time from the actual work that could be done meanwhile. Just saying.. you have not caught the irony of my sentence, however I am confident in the work the guys are doing, expecially after Fallout's reply to one of my posts a little above.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 282	Posted - 2011.09.27 20:50:00 - [57] - Quote Cyra Mangeiri wrote: Junky Juke wrote: adopt wrote: SoonGäó If I'd answer "SoonGäó" to my boss asking me "When will you bring me that project?" it would fire me immediately Whenever I say "when it's done, stop pestering me if you want things done" to my boss, he gets this sheepish look on his face and goes away muttering. There's only so much you get accomplished by prodding all the time, sometimes you actually have to let people work on things instead of delivering constant progress reports. Unlike most employers seem to think, those reports take up work time from the actual work that could be done meanwhile. Just saying.. You have a pretty tolerant boss. If I took 5 years and massive resources to deliver the equivalent of 5% of an off-the-shelf solution, then "stop pestering me" might not in fact cut it. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Holy One SniggWaffe 19	Posted - 2011.09.28 00:46:00 - [58] - Quote CCP Fallout wrote: As Zulu intimated in the dev blog published last week, the company took a good look at where the game was headed and wasn't entirely pleased with the direction it was going. This occurred after we did our release planning, which had some very specific plans for both FiS and Incarna. What we're doing right now is saying "okay, what exactly is it that we need to do next to make EVE the game everyone loves again." We're still making plans on finalizing what will come next, and while we do no some fairly general ideas, the producers and designers really want to make sure we're solid and happy and can present information to you guys that has enough detail that will satiate your appetites. One of the things the Community team has been working on, Guard in particular, is trying to get bits and pieces out to you guys as quickly as possible. You've seen this most recently with Torfi's blog, and we do hope to have more information from Zulu as soon as possible. I can say that this is one of the Community teams highest priorities. :D Comprehensive rebalancing. Engine trails. Cyno effect. How many years that take, you reckon?
Ubee Rubiks Caldari Provisions Caldari State 2	Posted - 2011.09.28 05:04:00 - [59] - Quote CCP Fallout wrote: At this time, the Community team does not have more information regarding the next stages of Incarna's implementation, specifically the other CQs on Tranquility. We'll try to get more information on this as soon as possible, but I do know that more information is coming sooner rather than later. Ccp does this all of the time, it will be at least a year before the think about doing anything with incarna when they post something like this
Written Word Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 13	Posted - 2011.09.28 06:16:00 - [60] - Quote Winter 2011 for another captain's quarter. Maybe.
DeBingJos T.R.I.A.D 95	Posted - 2011.09.28 06:58:00 - [61] - Quote Written Word wrote: Winter 2011 for another captain's quarter. Maybe. Don't get your hopes up. Fix FW !
Sigourney Teaser Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2011.09.28 08:31:00 - [62] - Quote CCP Fallout wrote: As Zulu intimated in the dev blog published last week, the company took a good look at where the game was headed and wasn't entirely pleased with the direction it was going. This occurred after we did our release planning, which had some very specific plans for both FiS and Incarna. What we're doing right now is saying "okay, what exactly is it that we need to do next to make EVE the game everyone loves again." We're still making plans on finalizing what will come next, and while we do no some fairly general ideas, the producers and designers really want to make sure we're solid and happy and can present information to you guys that has enough detail that will satiate your appetites. CCP presented a lot of stuff to redesign/rethink/renovate, etc (almost the whole game) in the last Fanfest, and not so much happened since that. Don't need to think too much, just pick up one and start the work :) I vote for the background-swich (aka new nebulaes).
The Snowman Aliastra Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2011.09.28 08:48:00 - [63] - Quote Thanks for your comments CCP Fallout. Understandable when intended plans come into question, and CCP have already conceeded that their communication on the matter was poor, so I'll not push it. Just nice to hear it a reasonable explanation. mkint wrote: No matter how much work CCP puts into incarna, it will never be good. It has no place in EVE. Well, I disagree, space.. to me, is as much about space stations as it is flying in space. And for over 5 years the only thing the overwhelming majority of the community have been asking about is walking in stations, to completely change that direction over a few people disgruntled bitter vets is a mistake imo. But if CCP feel that they can juggle a way of pleasing both crowds, so be it. I know a huge amount of people who have never played Eve that are just waiting for WiS, and since the new Star wars isnt going to be the fully Sci fi Sandbox simulation that people were hoping for, Eve is our last chance.

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