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Nepereta	Posted - 2005.02.07 13:49:00 - [31] I think what the universe lacks atm is a big enemy. CA where great at this role. They had the whole eye of sauron thing going down. They where the bad guys and virtually everyone else was a friend or neutral. I could log on and fight anytime I wanted. Now if I want to fight I have to haul my butt 40 odd hops to see anything approximating action ( which is some crusade of XF in some foreign land). Where is the danger in that? Sure I could loose the plat insured ship I went in and get a kickback from XF council for taking part in a XF sanctioned op. Which means I am almost totally covered. Excitement approximates to how much stake you risk. If I have serious enemies harrassing my homebase then I got a whole pile of stuff to risk like my haulers, my mining ops and so on. Basicallly the mega/zyd/morp/T2 moon mineral income streams are now totally safe. My trading/ manufacturing income stream was always safe and I had to fall back to that at various stages in my career. Which means I can gross loads of wad for me and my corp at zero risk and now the lack of risk has become a problem in its own right. Am I making any sense? Now we just have little disputes and general anarchy , KOS lists are changing far to often. Its great if you live in the west nowadays. But the South is pretty dull.
AvanCade	Posted - 2005.02.07 13:50:00 - [32] Nah i think Xetic would go first before Stain, and t hen Stain.
Balbriggan	Posted - 2005.02.07 14:09:00 - [33] Originally by: AvanCade Nah i think Xetic would go first before Stain, and t hen Stain. possibly, but Xetic space is hard to get to, and you have to go through Stain to get to it, and atm I cant see Stain opening up on XF.
AvanCade	Posted - 2005.02.07 14:56:00 - [34] It will all be depending on the attacker.
Nepereta	Posted - 2005.02.07 15:42:00 - [35] Edited by: Nepereta on 07/02/2005 15:51:29 Originally by: AvanCade Nah i think Xetic would go first before Stain, and t hen Stain. XF is strong because it doesn't pick fights with all and sundry. XF tends to treat its friends well and even its beaten foes with some degree of respect. XF society I think implicitely understands the 'immortality situation' with the pod community. Essentially noone dies and transgressions are remembered. XF is a just and tolerant society with a Court of Law a Council and a President. Since we never screw our allies or friends our 'karma' remains positive enough to keep going. FA and CA never seemed to implicitely understand that when you do a 'nasty' on someone who considers you to be an ally you get paid back sooner or later. Essentially XF are IMO hard to hate. The only real reason to have a go at us is if you want our fields or ore going back and forth and lets not fool ourselves XF can extract ore alot more efficently than most of Eve.
AvanCade	Posted - 2005.02.07 16:28:00 - [36] Its not about love and hate, its about ISK and fun
Scythmar	Posted - 2005.02.07 17:14:00 - [37] Originally by: Rift Scorn FA will kill themselves in-directley. Where as CA fell apart through internal matters, FA have given too many people grief in one way of another through the last year. Their sheer arrogance has destroyed them, and what goes around, comes around .... and about time to. signed --------------- I guarantee that my opinions are the complete opposite of those of my corp and alliance. Get over it.
Major Trucker	Posted - 2005.02.07 18:06:00 - [38] Maybe CA folded because the PVP corps were tired of people coming into TS asking for help because they are being attacked in a belt NPCing 10 minutes after a call to arms. So all the pvp corps who knew damn well they could hold their own anywhere left to let the muppets fend for themselves. The Euros in CA also thought things were going down the toilet since SE/XF had 10x there numbers on during that time, but CA still owned the US timezone hands down and anyone who says otherwise was not there.
Aerick Dawn	Posted - 2005.02.07 18:14:00 - [39] When CA split, the pvp corps that gelled together minus the carebears started what from further on will be called "CAREBEARGEDDON". Basically, the parts of the EVE universe that have been largely untouched by serious assault efforts are now being systematically taken apart. Current Alliance Statuses: NORAD is basically gone with a small resistance contingent I don't even bother fighting anymore. JQA is getting close to destruction with two of their major corps leaving as of this weekend. Our guys are getting bored considering efficiency was so high in destroying JQA as a whole, there is now a shortage of targets worth a damn. FIX, kabooom! PBL, BLAM!!! FA, Uh oh..Here They Come, Set Condition PINK!!! ______________________ What Aerick has been up to lately..
Techie Zero	Posted - 2005.02.07 18:17:00 - [40] There really is no way to get rid of anyone in this carebear game. I wish there was some tangible thing to destroy that would equate to a corporation or alliance being in existance. Maybe that is what POSs or even Conquerable Stations should have factored in to. You need to have one of those (or at least some sort of controlling interest) to be a Corp or an alliance. Take that away and you are nothing. At least kill a corp if they can't visit their offices to pay the rent or fail to pay the rent period. Charge corps a fee for every member they have, if they can't pay that, make them go away. Corps and alliances should have a minimal member limit to create and maintain. If they fail that, to the chopping block with them. No more 1 member Corps please! Terminate these corps, free the offices and the labs, send the employees back to newb corps after a downtime. Purge the database of the crap they own and have an estate sale. Things only 'die' because the people who are involved lose interest or go away for one reason or another. Apathy is the biggest weapon in existance and is the leading cause of destruction in this game. On the other hand, give us more benefits to be in a corp or have a corp exist other than we can shoot each other without consequence anywhere. I am sure that I am not the first to post something like this. EVE-I.com~THE Info source
mark10201	Posted - 2005.02.07 19:48:00 - [41] PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ let it be FIX PLZZZ
Richard Sayre	Posted - 2005.02.07 21:16:00 - [42] Originally by: mark10201 PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ let it be FIX PLZZZ Bitter much?
Val Amon	Posted - 2005.02.07 21:57:00 - [43] Originally by: mark10201 PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ let it be FIX PLZZZ I hate conquerable stations and I personnally would rather do complex's in empire that someone already finished the last level than fire at or recharge some *** shield. Not to mention its like 40+ jumps to the T2 items and market I love so much. _ _ How many pilots does it take to wire a Flux Capacitor? 3, 1 to wire it and 2 to talk about how the old one was better.
Kashre	Posted - 2005.02.08 01:02:00 - [44] Edited by: Kashre on 08/02/2005 01:02:49 Originally by: Major Trucker Maybe CA folded because the PVP corps were tired of people coming into TS asking for help because they are being attacked in a belt NPCing 10 minutes after a call to arms. So all the pvp corps who knew damn well they could hold their own anywhere left to let the muppets fend for themselves. The Euros in CA also thought things were going down the toilet since SE/XF had 10x there numbers on during that time, but CA still owned the US timezone hands down and anyone who says otherwise was not there. Bah. The muppets had already been left to themselves. While CA's main PvP forces were running around attacking the pre-FIX local in querious or FA or mining in Yulai or whatever it is they did, anyone who wanted could run around CA space at their leisure. There were tons of raids into CA space in which many many miners got their butts blown off... but no particular effort was ever put forth to fend them off that I saw. I spent 3 months hunting NPCs in CA space and hardly saw any CA people who werent miners there. +++ It's called "low security space" for a reason.
Pesadilla	Posted - 2005.02.08 01:26:00 - [45] Originally by: mark10201 PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ let it be FIX PLZZZ u make urself looking really silly because of 2 things 1. u still shed bitter tears because u cant forget what the bad bad fix did to ur greed&propagandy driven revolution 2. foe is next on stains list right after fix, so once fix is dead its r turn, but maybe u'd even enjoy that because it would give u a new reason to whine... -----
AvanCade	Posted - 2005.02.08 05:35:00 - [46] You know, the reason why SE would not attack FoE, is for the same reason as they did not make peace with CA. They love to have a fight next door. They've set so several times as well. If they do go for FoE, well... they have adapted then
Jeebs	Posted - 2005.02.08 06:53:00 - [47] i bet ken jennings knows... (\_/) (x.x) (> <) This was Bunny. Kill Bunny and stop him from achieving world domination.
Blacklight	Posted - 2005.02.08 06:58:00 - [48] Originally by: AvanCade You know, the reason why SE would not attack FoE, is for the same reason as they did not make peace with CA. They love to have a fight next door. They've set so several times as well. If they do go for FoE, well... they have adapted then tbh, unless I have seen the absolute worst of SE and they have a lot more to offer than we've been witness so far, if they go against FoE they will get their arses handed to them on a silver platter, which is quite something as to my knowledge/intel FoE only have Forsaken Empire that are at all combat competent. no smack intended, just expanding on observations. Eve Blacklight Style
OMGWTFHAX	Posted - 2005.02.08 07:43:00 - [49] Originally by: Lord Sidon Edited by: Lord Sidon on 07/02/2005 13:38:26 Originally by: Tyrozet to answer the original question SE will be next. No flame but after FA they are the next logical step. I think you will find that you are next on SE's list onoes! they cant beat FIX...how they gonna beat a mainly pvp alliance... Xetic will get it before stain
Spinal	Posted - 2005.02.08 13:55:00 - [50] Phoenix Alliance seem to be on the rise again.. Numbers wise i dont know about Military Strength!
Lord Sidon	Posted - 2005.02.08 14:25:00 - [51] Originally by: OMGWTFHAX Originally by: Lord Sidon Edited by: Lord Sidon on 07/02/2005 13:38:26 Originally by: Tyrozet to answer the original question SE will be next. No flame but after FA they are the next logical step. I think you will find that you are next on SE's list onoes! they cant beat FIX...how they gonna beat a mainly pvp alliance... Xetic will get it before stain a little bird told me . . .
Valdi	Posted - 2005.02.08 19:54:00 - [52] Edited by: Valdi on 08/02/2005 19:56:06 Alliances come and go, such as the ancient Empires, one dies another one rises up. --- We just came to crush... Director of Recruitment
Tamora	Posted - 2005.02.08 20:32:00 - [53] Originally by: MatrixVotf Forgot to add that PA was killed. errrrrrr we killed Fade too?
angelcon	Posted - 2005.02.09 09:34:00 - [54] Originally by: MatrixVotf NORAD is currently living on the test server. Getting owned as well
angelcon	Posted - 2005.02.09 09:36:00 - [55] Originally by: Wulfgard PA, CFS, CA, FIX and currently FA are on the process on being systematically wiped out by the largest and most efficient pirate coalition ever made (evol, moo, attuk, votf, suppremacy, shinra and many others). It is pointless to fight them considering the odds. I sometimes wonder if there is a pattern or logic in this widespread chaos? Wiping out every single alliances will end up hurting them, production, ores flows, research will be slow down considerably, no to talk of requierments for dreadnoughts, titans. It seems most of the veterant players have lost interest in building and creating stability and harmony in the Eve universe, all they care is blowing stuff up. It is ironical that since CA was destroyed, the big bad guys gone, there would a little more stability, well it really had the reverse effect, now everyone is turning in to a wolf. And none of the great PvPhouse dares to oppose the coalition of Ebil, the dark side has won the day Happy mining in .4 imo bob is mad bacause we imp has the record for biggest fleet battal and longest all they have the record is for the biggest blob witch is an accomplishment in it self i suppose

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