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Lord DarthVader
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Posted - 2005.02.06 22:18:00 -
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Long ago in a galaxy far far away i heard someone mention the words "an alliance can never be destroyed" but as we all know this is the biggest load of bo*%úx ever said (see the alliance maps through the ages under "corps alliances and discutions something")and im sure the changing maps will prove my point.
As we all know it has been a busy 6 months or so firstly with FA (fountain alliance) decimating CFS (coalition of free stars)over some stations BIG corp wanted back, then the fall of the mighty *cough* CA(curse alliance) and now it seams FA are going down in the not so distant future due to all the friends they seam to be making  or not , so the question is who is next, who is left to shoot at and will we ever see a titan on TQ send your answers on a post card to..... on second thoughts just reply to this post 
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Bedrock
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Posted - 2005.02.06 22:19:00 -
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my question is this: who cares? play the game.
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2005.02.06 22:21:00 -
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If I answer can I have a blue peter badge?
And a hug?
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MatrixVotf
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Posted - 2005.02.06 22:36:00 -
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Forgot to add that PA was killed.
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Lord DarthVader
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Posted - 2005.02.06 22:37:00 -
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 Originally by: Bedrock
my question is this: who cares? play the game.
maybe you say that because you think FIX are next  |
The Chef
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Posted - 2005.02.06 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: MatrixVotf
Forgot to add that PA was killed.
And Norad AFAIK, I don't know the state of their resistance (if any)
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2005.02.06 23:00:00 -
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Not much left of NORAD, surely it's a bit early to proclaim FA dead atm also.
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MatrixVotf
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Posted - 2005.02.06 23:03:00 -
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NORAD is currently living on the test server.
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Wulfgard
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Posted - 2005.02.06 23:05:00 -
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Edited by: Wulfgard on 09/02/2005 19:42:35
oops...
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Wulfgard
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Posted - 2005.02.06 23:06:00 -
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Edited by: Wulfgard on 09/02/2005 19:41:18
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Acwron
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Posted - 2005.02.06 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lord DarthVader
Long ago in a galaxy far far away i heard someone mention the words "an alliance can never be destroyed" but as we all know this is the biggest load of bo*%úx ever said (see the alliance maps through the ages under "corps alliances and discutions something")and im sure the changing maps will prove my point.
As we all know it has been a busy 6 months or so firstly with FA (fountain alliance) decimating CFS (coalition of free stars)over some stations BIG corp wanted back, then the fall of the mighty *cough* CA(curse alliance) and now it seams FA are going down in the not so distant future due to all the friends they seam to be making or not , so the question is who is next, who is left to shoot at and will we ever see a titan on TQ send your answers on a post card to..... on second thoughts just reply to this post
Well it wont be you cos 1 month old Alt's dont have alliance's
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.02.06 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Wulfgard
PA, CFS, CA, FIX and currently FA are on the process on being systematically wiped out by the largest and most efficient pirate coalition ever made (evol, moo, attuk, votf, suppremacy, shinra and many others). It is pointless to fight them considering the odds. I sometimes wonder if there is a pattern or logic in this widespread chaos? Wiping out every single alliances will end up hurting them, production, ores flows, research will be slow down considerably, no to talk of requierments for dreadnoughts, titans.
It seems most of the veterant players have lost interest in building and creating stability and harmony in the Eve universe, all they care is blowing stuff up. It is ironical that since CA was destroyed, the big bad guys gone, there would a little more stability, well it really had the reverse effect, now everyone is turning in to a wolf. And none of the great PvPhouse dares to oppose the coalition of Ebil, the dark side has won the day
Happy mining in .4
Well, eventually, hopefully, we will start killing each other. I can't wait for the day that people who actually want to fight, fight each other. That will be a great day.
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Yarrick
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Posted - 2005.02.06 23:58:00 -
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Edited by: Yarrick on 06/02/2005 23:58:22
Edited by: Yarrick on 06/02/2005 23:58:10
Originally by: Dianabolic
Well, eventually, hopefully, we will start killing each other. I can't wait for the day that people who actually want to fight, fight each other. That will be a great day.
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sutty
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Posted - 2005.02.07 00:37:00 -
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Edited by: sutty on 07/02/2005 00:37:02
BUT TILL THEN WE R4PE AND PILLAGE THE CAREBEARS YAR !
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2005.02.07 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Well, eventually, hopefully, we will start killing each other. I can't wait for the day that people who actually want to fight, fight each other. That will be a great day.
Woot can I shoot you again Diana?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.02.07 02:27:00 -
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well Alliances only die if corp are leaving
PA is alive again
CFS died to political **** afaik
CA died cause thy splitted (political ****)
NORAD died when Nemesis, Merchent Marins and BNC left
JQA may get killed, same for FIX, but both only hold small regions and werent very old
I doubt we will see FA dead anytime soon
war in Eve is not only about holding territory, its about who has the fatest ass to endure the state of war longest
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Kashre
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Posted - 2005.02.07 02:31:00 -
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Originally by: Lord DarthVader
Long ago in a galaxy far far away i heard someone mention the words "an alliance can never be destroyed" but as we all know this is the biggest load of bo*%úx ever said (see the alliance maps through the ages under "corps alliances and discutions something")and im sure the changing maps will prove my point.
As we all know it has been a busy 6 months or so firstly with FA (fountain alliance) decimating CFS (coalition of free stars)over some stations BIG corp wanted back, then the fall of the mighty *cough* CA(curse alliance) and now it seams FA are going down in the not so distant future due to all the friends they seam to be making or not , so the question is who is next, who is left to shoot at and will we ever see a titan on TQ send your answers on a post card to..... on second thoughts just reply to this post
That's some flamebait... hah
But you know, its almost true that you can't kill an alliance. No alliance ever died becuase of ship or territory losses. They die because they are torn apart by disention. CFS *could* have endured. Its not like its a requirement to have access to bistot and 0.0 hunting in order to make ISK, and they could have lived just fine in empire and spent forever fighting FIX and FA. I really dont understand any alliance that lets themselves be beaten by someone else. Hell even if they do kick you out of your territory, they cant kill *you*. You should have enough loyalty to people who are supposed to be your freinds to stick it out and find something new together, be it gurilla warfare against the invaders or just pull a BOB/xCA and go do something else in a different part of space.
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Rift Scorn
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Posted - 2005.02.07 03:20:00 -
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FA will kill themselves in-directley. Where as CA fell apart through internal matters, FA have given too many people grief in one way of another through the last year. Their sheer arrogance has destroyed them, and what goes around, comes around .... and about time to.
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Evecrumble
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Posted - 2005.02.07 04:13:00 -
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FA will collapse like a flan in a cuboard, probably before we get there :(
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slip66
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Posted - 2005.02.07 04:14:00 -
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Originally by: Wulfgard
PA, CFS, CA, FIX and currently FA are on the process on being systematically wiped out by the largest and most efficient pirate coalition ever made (evol, moo, attuk, votf, suppremacy, shinra and many others). It is pointless to fight them considering the odds. I sometimes wonder if there is a pattern or logic in this widespread chaos? Wiping out every single alliances will end up hurting them, production, ores flows, research will be slow down considerably, no to talk of requierments for dreadnoughts, titans.
It seems most of the veterant players have lost interest in building and creating stability and harmony in the Eve universe, all they care is blowing stuff up. It is ironical that since CA was destroyed, the big bad guys gone, there would a little more stability, well it really had the reverse effect, now everyone is turning in to a wolf. And none of the great PvPhouse dares to oppose the coalition of Ebil, the dark side has won the day
Happy mining in .4
joy love and peace and carebear hugz for all. Blowing stuff up is what eve is all about! I also like how when someone is a agressor in eve they are now "pirates".
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Zagum Darkfin
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Posted - 2005.02.07 06:29:00 -
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I think you will see a great peace appear on the horizon once the true masters of unregulated space wash away the unworthy masses who think they can claim space without the firepower to back it up!!! The outer rim will be free for all who want to suck on an arkanor rock and shoot people!!!
So say we all!!
So say we all.. 
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Aulora
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Posted - 2005.02.07 07:15:00 -
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Edited by: Aulora on 07/02/2005 07:15:55
Unless there are player owned stations established in the area, I dont think region can be brought down by combat alone. The encumbant alliance that controls the npc stations will more or less maintain control of the region.
Also I dont think FA are going anywhere for quite some time, its way too early to call that one. Several individuals in FA could personally hire most of empire to come help fight.
Aulora.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.02.07 07:56:00 -
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A region can fall under militairy alone. PBL died. They had a POS, but as soon as they knew we where there to stay, they pulled it offline.
Though PBL was officially non-excisting.
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OMGWTFHAX
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Posted - 2005.02.07 08:00:00 -
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PA have actually regrown since their 'death'
if u look, bob havent destroyed any alliance yet...they are not as great as they think they are |
Lord Draco
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Posted - 2005.02.07 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Aulora
Edited by: Aulora on 07/02/2005 07:15:55
Unless there are player owned stations established in the area, I dont think region can be brought down by combat alone. The encumbant alliance that controls the npc stations will more or less maintain control of the region.
Also I dont think FA are going anywhere for quite some time, its way too early to call that one. Several individuals in FA could personally hire most of empire to come help fight.
Aulora.
You know a lot about FA, do they supply CAS? Are they gonna hire your nub corp to come fight?
Seriously, I hope they can find some goons to fight for them, its boring already.
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Harkan Ramientes
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Posted - 2005.02.07 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Wulfgard
PA, CFS, CA, FIX and currently FA are on the process on being systematically wiped out by the largest and most efficient pirate coalition ever made (evol, moo, attuk, votf, suppremacy, shinra and many others). It is pointless to fight them considering the odds. I sometimes wonder if there is a pattern or logic in this widespread chaos? Wiping out every single alliances will end up hurting them, production, ores flows, research will be slow down considerably, no to talk of requierments for dreadnoughts, titans.
It seems most of the veterant players have lost interest in building and creating stability and harmony in the Eve universe, all they care is blowing stuff up. It is ironical that since CA was destroyed, the big bad guys gone, there would a little more stability, well it really had the reverse effect, now everyone is turning in to a wolf. And none of the great PvPhouse dares to oppose the coalition of Ebil, the dark side has won the day
Happy mining in .4
only blinds would said so....
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Awalance
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Posted - 2005.02.07 12:05:00 -
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it will be alleys a war to fight in for the ppl who whant to fight
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.02.07 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: OMGWTFHAX
PA have actually regrown since their 'death'
if u look, bob havent destroyed any alliance yet...they are not as great as they think they are
Yeah, funny that isn't it - they cease having to fight and defend and, all of a sudden, the deadweight and carebear element resurface.
That says more about them, tbh, than it does about BoB.
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Tyrozet
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Posted - 2005.02.07 13:23:00 -
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to answer the original question SE will be next. No flame but after FA they are the next logical step.
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Lord Sidon
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Posted - 2005.02.07 13:38:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Sidon on 07/02/2005 13:38:26
Originally by: Tyrozet
to answer the original question SE will be next. No flame but after FA they are the next logical step.
I think you will find that you are next on SE's list
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Nepereta
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Posted - 2005.02.07 13:49:00 -
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I think what the universe lacks atm is a big enemy. CA where great at this role. They had the whole eye of sauron thing going down. They where the bad guys and virtually everyone else was a friend or neutral. I could log on and fight anytime I wanted.
Now if I want to fight I have to haul my butt 40 odd hops to see anything approximating action ( which is some crusade of XF in some foreign land). Where is the danger in that? Sure I could loose the plat insured ship I went in and get a kickback from XF council for taking part in a XF sanctioned op. Which means I am almost totally covered.
Excitement approximates to how much stake you risk. If I have serious enemies harrassing my homebase then I got a whole pile of stuff to risk like my haulers, my mining ops and so on.
Basicallly the mega/zyd/morp/T2 moon mineral income streams are now totally safe. My trading/ manufacturing income stream was always safe and I had to fall back to that at various stages in my career.
Which means I can gross loads of wad for me and my corp at zero risk and now the lack of risk has become a problem in its own right. Am I making any sense?
Now we just have little disputes and general anarchy , KOS lists are changing far to often. Its great if you live in the west nowadays. But the South is pretty dull.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.02.07 13:50:00 -
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Nah i think Xetic would go first before Stain, and t hen Stain.
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Balbriggan
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Posted - 2005.02.07 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade
Nah i think Xetic would go first before Stain, and t hen Stain.
possibly, but Xetic space is hard to get to, and you have to go through Stain to get to it, and atm I cant see Stain opening up on XF.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.02.07 14:56:00 -
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It will all be depending on the attacker.
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Nepereta
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Posted - 2005.02.07 15:42:00 -
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Edited by: Nepereta on 07/02/2005 15:51:29
Originally by: AvanCade
Nah i think Xetic would go first before Stain, and t hen Stain.
XF is strong because it doesn't pick fights with all and sundry. XF tends to treat its friends well and even its beaten foes with some degree of respect. XF society I think implicitely understands the 'immortality situation' with the pod community.
Essentially noone dies and transgressions are remembered. XF is a just and tolerant society with a Court of Law a Council and a President. Since we never screw our allies or friends our 'karma' remains positive enough to keep going.
FA and CA never seemed to implicitely understand that when you do a 'nasty' on someone who considers you to be an ally you get paid back sooner or later.
Essentially XF are IMO hard to hate. The only real reason to have a go at us is if you want our fields or ore going back and forth and lets not fool ourselves XF can extract ore alot more efficently than most of Eve.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.02.07 16:28:00 -
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Its not about love and hate, its about ISK and fun
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Scythmar
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Posted - 2005.02.07 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Rift Scorn
FA will kill themselves in-directley. Where as CA fell apart through internal matters, FA have given too many people grief in one way of another through the last year. Their sheer arrogance has destroyed them, and what goes around, comes around .... and about time to.
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Major Trucker
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Posted - 2005.02.07 18:06:00 -
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Maybe CA folded because the PVP corps were tired of people coming into TS asking for help because they are being attacked in a belt NPCing 10 minutes after a call to arms. So all the pvp corps who knew damn well they could hold their own anywhere left to let the muppets fend for themselves. The Euros in CA also thought things were going down the toilet since SE/XF had 10x there numbers on during that time, but CA still owned the US timezone hands down and anyone who says otherwise was not there.
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2005.02.07 18:14:00 -
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When CA split, the pvp corps that gelled together minus the carebears started what from further on will be called "CAREBEARGEDDON". Basically, the parts of the EVE universe that have been largely untouched by serious assault efforts are now being systematically taken apart.
Current Alliance Statuses:
NORAD is basically gone with a small resistance contingent I don't even bother fighting anymore.
JQA is getting close to destruction with two of their major corps leaving as of this weekend. Our guys are getting bored considering efficiency was so high in destroying JQA as a whole, there is now a shortage of targets worth a damn.
FIX, kabooom!
PBL, BLAM!!!
FA, Uh oh..Here They Come, Set Condition PINK!!!
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Techie Zero
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Posted - 2005.02.07 18:17:00 -
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There really is no way to get rid of anyone in this carebear game.
I wish there was some tangible thing to destroy that would equate to a corporation or alliance being in existance.
Maybe that is what POSs or even Conquerable Stations should have factored in to. You need to have one of those (or at least some sort of controlling interest) to be a Corp or an alliance. Take that away and you are nothing. At least kill a corp if they can't visit their offices to pay the rent or fail to pay the rent period.
Charge corps a fee for every member they have, if they can't pay that, make them go away.
Corps and alliances should have a minimal member limit to create and maintain. If they fail that, to the chopping block with them. No more 1 member Corps please!
Terminate these corps, free the offices and the labs, send the employees back to newb corps after a downtime. Purge the database of the crap they own and have an estate sale.
Things only 'die' because the people who are involved lose interest or go away for one reason or another. Apathy is the biggest weapon in existance and is the leading cause of destruction in this game.
On the other hand, give us more benefits to be in a corp or have a corp exist other than we can shoot each other without consequence anywhere.
I am sure that I am not the first to post something like this.
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mark10201
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Posted - 2005.02.07 19:48:00 -
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PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ let it be FIX PLZZZ
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Richard Sayre
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Posted - 2005.02.07 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: mark10201
PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ let it be FIX PLZZZ
Bitter much?
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Val Amon
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Posted - 2005.02.07 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: mark10201
PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ let it be FIX PLZZZ
I hate conquerable stations and I personnally would rather do complex's in empire that someone already finished the last level than fire at or recharge some *** shield. Not to mention its like 40+ jumps to the T2 items and market I love so much.
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Kashre
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Posted - 2005.02.08 01:02:00 -
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Edited by: Kashre on 08/02/2005 01:02:49
Originally by: Major Trucker
Maybe CA folded because the PVP corps were tired of people coming into TS asking for help because they are being attacked in a belt NPCing 10 minutes after a call to arms. So all the pvp corps who knew damn well they could hold their own anywhere left to let the muppets fend for themselves. The Euros in CA also thought things were going down the toilet since SE/XF had 10x there numbers on during that time, but CA still owned the US timezone hands down and anyone who says otherwise was not there.
Bah. The muppets had already been left to themselves. While CA's main PvP forces were running around attacking the pre-FIX local in querious or FA or mining in Yulai or whatever it is they did, anyone who wanted could run around CA space at their leisure. There were tons of raids into CA space in which many many miners got their butts blown off... but no particular effort was ever put forth to fend them off that I saw.
I spent 3 months hunting NPCs in CA space and hardly saw any CA people who werent miners there.
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Pesadilla
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Posted - 2005.02.08 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: mark10201
PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ let it be FIX PLZZZ
u make urself looking really silly because of 2 things
1. u still shed bitter tears because u cant forget what the bad bad fix did to ur greed&propagandy driven revolution
2. foe is next on stains list right after fix, so once fix is dead its r turn, but maybe u'd even enjoy that because it would give u a new reason to whine...
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.02.08 05:35:00 -
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You know, the reason why SE would not attack FoE, is for the same reason as they did not make peace with CA. They love to have a fight next door. They've set so several times as well.
If they do go for FoE, well... they have adapted then
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Jeebs
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Posted - 2005.02.08 06:53:00 -
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i bet ken jennings knows...
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.02.08 06:58:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade
You know, the reason why SE would not attack FoE, is for the same reason as they did not make peace with CA. They love to have a fight next door. They've set so several times as well.
If they do go for FoE, well... they have adapted then
tbh, unless I have seen the absolute worst of SE and they have a lot more to offer than we've been witness so far, if they go against FoE they will get their arses handed to them on a silver platter, which is quite something as to my knowledge/intel FoE only have Forsaken Empire that are at all combat competent.
no smack intended, just expanding on observations.
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OMGWTFHAX
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Posted - 2005.02.08 07:43:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Sidon
Edited by: Lord Sidon on 07/02/2005 13:38:26
Originally by: Tyrozet
to answer the original question SE will be next. No flame but after FA they are the next logical step.
I think you will find that you are next on SE's list
onoes! they cant beat FIX...how they gonna beat a mainly pvp alliance...
Xetic will get it before stain |
Spinal
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Posted - 2005.02.08 13:55:00 -
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Phoenix Alliance seem to be on the rise again.. Numbers wise i dont know about Military Strength!
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Lord Sidon
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Posted - 2005.02.08 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: OMGWTFHAX
Originally by: Lord Sidon
Edited by: Lord Sidon on 07/02/2005 13:38:26
Originally by: Tyrozet
to answer the original question SE will be next. No flame but after FA they are the next logical step.
I think you will find that you are next on SE's list
onoes! they cant beat FIX...how they gonna beat a mainly pvp alliance...
Xetic will get it before stain
a little bird told me 
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Valdi
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Posted - 2005.02.08 19:54:00 -
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Edited by: Valdi on 08/02/2005 19:56:06
Alliances come and go, such as the ancient Empires, one dies another one rises up.
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Tamora
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Posted - 2005.02.08 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: MatrixVotf
Forgot to add that PA was killed.
errrrrrr we killed Fade too?
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angelcon
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Posted - 2005.02.09 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: MatrixVotf
NORAD is currently living on the test server.
Getting owned as well |
angelcon
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Posted - 2005.02.09 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Wulfgard
PA, CFS, CA, FIX and currently FA are on the process on being systematically wiped out by the largest and most efficient pirate coalition ever made (evol, moo, attuk, votf, suppremacy, shinra and many others). It is pointless to fight them considering the odds. I sometimes wonder if there is a pattern or logic in this widespread chaos? Wiping out every single alliances will end up hurting them, production, ores flows, research will be slow down considerably, no to talk of requierments for dreadnoughts, titans.
It seems most of the veterant players have lost interest in building and creating stability and harmony in the Eve universe, all they care is blowing stuff up. It is ironical that since CA was destroyed, the big bad guys gone, there would a little more stability, well it really had the reverse effect, now everyone is turning in to a wolf. And none of the great PvPhouse dares to oppose the coalition of Ebil, the dark side has won the day
Happy mining in .4
imo bob is mad bacause we imp has the record for biggest fleet battal and longest all they have the record is for the biggest blob witch is an accomplishment in it self i suppose |
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