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Selim	Posted - 2005.03.08 07:01:00 - [61] Originally by: Meridius For **** sakes, does CCP even read this forum? I don't think i've ever seen a dev response anywhere here. Someone take off the cloak Indeed
magickangaroo	Posted - 2005.03.09 02:54:00 - [62] Originally by: Question2 Simple.If you choose wrong stats,you have to start over.Starting over = more time spent on game.Which directly benefits CCP. no what it leads to is people getting peeved off cos theyre forced to make a rediculous decision when they dont know about the game mechainics.. then they think sod that why would i give my real money to a company that dont care, and then leave eve altogether. or stay with the stats they got and complain :) would be great if the descriptions on the characters were more revealing but i think every 6 months people should be alowed to shift 2 or 3 of there base stats to something they want.
Selim	Posted - 2005.03.09 14:33:00 - [63] Edited by: Selim on 09/03/2005 14:33:20 But there needs to be some sort of maximum amount you can have in one category, otherwise all the brutors, for example, would send everything to perception and train battleship 5 in 2 weeks. This is the problem because right now there is no way for people with crappy intelligence and perception, like myself, to catch up in attributes. I think its absurd that nobody ever reads this forum, this is the ONE thing I hate the most about EVE. I chose the absolute WORST race in EVE for fighting. I have +2 charisma from my race's base charisma of 6. Lots of memory, which is useless. I'd only have 21 intelligence with a +3, too. Thats average. Don't even talk to me about my perception. I'd gladly sell everything I have just to pay for a brain surgery that would give me some decent attributes. I'd even pay real money. Jack of all trades, master of none.
Meridius	Posted - 2005.03.10 17:12:00 - [64] We really need a reply on this from the devs. ________________________________________________________
DarkStar251	Posted - 2005.03.11 02:07:00 - [65] Signed.... devs are maybe hiding from us? lol....
Roy Focker	Posted - 2005.03.11 02:22:00 - [66] Start over or just deal with it. "You're already who you are before you even get here". -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- I am not paying $15 a month to play a immature a-hole.
Sadist	Posted - 2005.03.11 04:29:00 - [67] Edited by: Sadist on 11/03/2005 04:29:56 There is a way to change your sucky attributes...want a hint? There's even 3! You can boost any of your attributes in this game by 14 points, which is more than you have in the beginning in ANY given attribute. That way you can get a 17 in even the lowest attribute. The formula is learning + adv. learning + implant(+4). So...seriously...stop yer whining, it looks even more pathetic coming from a guy who probably has more than 10 mil SP... I was thinking about the attribute system and figured out how FLEXIBLE it was, it really is, except maybe to those people who played Diablo and other hack&slash rubbish. _______________________________________________
Selim	Posted - 2005.03.11 11:50:00 - [68] Originally by: Sadist Edited by: Sadist on 11/03/2005 04:29:56 There is a way to change your sucky attributes...want a hint? There's even 3! You can boost any of your attributes in this game by 14 points, which is more than you have in the beginning in ANY given attribute. That way you can get a 17 in even the lowest attribute. The formula is learning + adv. learning + implant(+4). So...seriously...stop yer whining, it looks even more pathetic coming from a guy who probably has more than 10 mil SP... I was thinking about the attribute system and figured out how FLEXIBLE it was, it really is, except maybe to those people who played Diablo and other hack&slash rubbish.
Kaeten	Posted - 2005.03.11 12:07:00 - [69] Edited by: Kaeten on 11/03/2005 12:08:25 Originally by: Meridius I just think it's plain stupid that the most important decision you make in EVE is made on your first day. They need to let people re-assign base attributes after 3-6 months of playing, you know, when you figure out what you want your character to specialize in. GJ CCP totally agree, I think its stupid that the most important deision is made on the first day. Now i started with 12 charimsa and its killing me... ___________________________________ Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante Gallante
Meridius	Posted - 2005.03.11 21:04:00 - [70] Originally by: Roy Focker Start over or just deal with it. "You're already who you are before you even get here". "deal with it" is an excuse for not being able to argue your point. So is "whining". Instead of explaining why the system works and pointing out how it is not horribly broke you say "deal with it" and move along like you've actually made a difference. If you have to "deal with" stuff in a game, somebody **** up. "deal with it", you can justify anything with that. Oh i logged in and all my isk + ships + SP is gone for no reason. Can i join you in your happy land of "deal with it" bull**? ________________________________________________________

Selim	Posted - 2005.03.11 22:22:00 - [71] People with low int/perc should be reimbursed with SP IMO. As well as people with high charisma. Because charisma is totally useless, and not having good intel and perc means you suck at training everything.
Roy Focker	Posted - 2005.03.12 00:18:00 - [72] Edited by: Roy Focker on 12/03/2005 00:19:32 Originally by: Selim People with low int/perc should be reimbursed with SP IMO. As well as people with high charisma. Because charisma is totally useless, and not having good intel and perc means you suck at training everything. Why should people be reimbursed for choices that YOU made. Please, sit back and re-read your statement. The fact of the matter is that YOU made the choice. Instead of rushing through the character making process you should have went slowly and read what everything ment. That is what I did and my character is moving along quite fine. CCP has nothing to do with this. You have two options. You either continue playing with your character or you restart. -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- I am not paying $15 a month to play a immature a-hole.
Selim	Posted - 2005.03.12 00:20:00 - [73] Originally by: Roy Focker Originally by: Selim People with low int/perc should be reimbursed with SP IMO. As well as people with high charisma. Because charisma is totally useless, and not having good intel and perc means you suck at training everything. Why should people be reimbursed for choices that YOU made. Please, sit back and re-read your statement. The fact of the matter is that YOU made the choice. Instead of rushing through the chracter making process you should have went slowly and read what everything ment. That is what I did and my character is moving along quite fine. CCP has nothing to do with this. You have two options. You either continue playing with your character or you restart. I am quite getting tired of the new trend of not accepting the responsiblity of one's action. Be a man about what you do. I swear some of you really make me sick. You whiners want handouts for everything. They didn't say that charisma, willpower and memory suck. And why should you complain? You're civire, the best combat race.
Roy Focker	Posted - 2005.03.12 00:27:00 - [74] Originally by: Selim Originally by: Roy Focker Originally by: Selim People with low int/perc should be reimbursed with SP IMO. As well as people with high charisma. Because charisma is totally useless, and not having good intel and perc means you suck at training everything. Why should people be reimbursed for choices that YOU made. Please, sit back and re-read your statement. The fact of the matter is that YOU made the choice. Instead of rushing through the chracter making process you should have went slowly and read what everything ment. That is what I did and my character is moving along quite fine. CCP has nothing to do with this. You have two options. You either continue playing with your character or you restart. I am quite getting tired of the new trend of not accepting the responsiblity of one's action. Be a man about what you do. I swear some of you really make me sick. You whiners want handouts for everything. They didn't say that charisma, willpower and memory suck. And why should you complain? You're civire, the best combat race. Oh, I see. You want to fight. Well, if your character is not a fighter why don't you get another account? Oh, wait you don't want to do that. You want CCP to give you a handout on a mistake YOU made. -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- I am not paying $15 a month to play a immature a-hole.
Selim	Posted - 2005.03.12 00:30:00 - [75] Because buying another character is stupid and I shouldnt have to suffer with a mistake I made on my first day. You're just a selfish cretin who, happy with his attributes, wants to make sure nobody else gets to train as fast even though they deserve it since they pay just as much money per month. Please die.
Roy Focker	Posted - 2005.03.12 00:34:00 - [76] Edited by: Roy Focker on 12/03/2005 00:57:25 Edited by: Roy Focker on 12/03/2005 00:44:04 Originally by: Selim Because buying another character is stupid and I shouldnt have to suffer with a mistake I made on my first day. You're just a selfish cretin who, happy with his attributes, wants to make sure nobody else gets to train as fast even though they deserve it since they pay just as much money per month. Please die. Let me guess. You must be from Europe? Let's get something straight here. Once again, YOU made the choice, YOU failed to read what the attributes meant, and why should YOU be granted a upper hand on everyone else because YOU messed up. -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- I am not paying $15 a month to play a immature a-hole.
Bosie	Posted - 2005.03.12 02:25:00 - [77] Roy I agree 100% with you on this one. I too took the time to see what the races were for. Heck let's play city of heroes and cry when because we are a blaster and we can't tank the mobs as well as a tanker character. Why should you get free SP's because you made a mistake and I don't because I took my time and looked into what Eve and the various races were all about. Tell you what for every single SP you get because of your mistake I would like 100 million ISK, sound fair? Ohh and I get one lab slot for 1000 SP's you get to boot. Bosie. http://bosie.proboards40.com/ http://zeroimpact.co.uk/evemap
Meridius	Posted - 2005.03.12 11:08:00 - [78] Edited by: Meridius on 12/03/2005 11:09:04 Oh yeah i made a mistake. I chose a fighter character and i end up having Perc being my 3rd lowest attribute. Yeah totally my fault right, CCP are gods correct? The fact that they initially planned for willpower being gunnery primary and then changing there mind thats my fault to right? Holy ****, how can you not see whats wrong with that? If i went out and got mugged i suppose thats my fault as well? I made the decision to go outside so it must be right? If i ever have children as dim as you two, i will make sure to euthanize them. ________________________________________________________
Sherkaner	Posted - 2005.03.12 15:48:00 - [79] Locked because of repeated personal attacks. forum rules \| [email protected]


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