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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2011.04.16 18:54:00 -
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Female Soldiers from around the world
Female Soldiers from around the world 2
Brave Little Girls
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Watch for it - there's one little girl in there with her face all stripped black, brown and green - but she's got lip stick on ...
Oh and just before that, there's at least one shot of Jessica Simpson in there from a movie but most of them seem real.
In any case - a possible new recruiting ground for Female EVE Players?
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ceaon
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Posted - 2011.04.16 19:14:00 -
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i did look at that videos and dint get exited
female soldiers should only wear bikinis just saying
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
If the whole country is corrupted then it's no longer corruption but culture.
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Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2011.04.16 19:17:00 -
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I can not bring myself to applaud any person for joining the military institution.
But were is the prise for men becoming nurses? Or is it just a one way thing?
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Caleidascope
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.04.16 19:46:00 -
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Good stuff! It is time for women to be more than barefoot and pregnant.
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Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.04.16 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Lindsay Logan I can not bring myself to applaud any person for joining the military institution.
But were is the prise for men becoming nurses? Or is it just a one way thing?
Yes, because if we all just hold hands and hug trees then the entire world will be at peace. If it weren't for better men and women than yourself, you probably wouldn't be able to express your view on the subject.
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Tattva Paalaka
Appono Astos
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Posted - 2011.04.16 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Astenion
Originally by: Lindsay Logan I can not bring myself to applaud any person for joining the military institution.
But were is the prise for men becoming nurses? Or is it just a one way thing?
Yes, because if we all just hold hands and hug trees then the entire world will be at peace. If it weren't for better men and women than yourself, you probably wouldn't be able to express your view on the subject.
The last "good" war was WWII. Everything since has been 1st world countries bombing the **** out of weaker and poorer nations for dubious reasons.
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Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.04.16 23:39:00 -
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Which is the corruption of the governments of said militaries, not the militaries themselves.
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Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
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Posted - 2011.04.17 00:25:00 -
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Edited by: Vogue on 17/04/2011 00:26:48 The cold war was a bum deal for a lot of countries that were stuck in-between the USSR and the USA. Vietnam war created great controversy in the USA. Mostly from young people who wanted to evade service. This reminds me of a film Charlton Heston was in. The scene was he was watching a hippy pop festival. Some hippy said 'we should all get along, love and respect each other'. Charlton Heston said said that line in unison with ire when gripping a gun. As a lot of Vietnam soliders got a lot of disrespect.
Its easy to talk soldiers. Though my mental health history would exclude me in current times I would enlist If there was a great need for it. I suppose I would feel a sense of duty and pride at enlistment. But given my over analytic mind I would be crapping my pants and vomiting during deployment. How I would react beyond the initial pangs of fight or flight I don't know. A very ugly nasty business. In 'The World At War (WW2)' an ex soldier said he felt a total sense of dislocation going back to civilian life. He was distant to his family and friends. That latter aspect I think would particularly affect me.... Rather loopy eccentric person talking about soldiering But then conscription in the past accepted lots of nutters!
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Alotta Baggage
Amarr Imperial Manufactorum Armada Assail
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Posted - 2011.04.17 02:52:00 -
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Originally by: Tattva Paalaka
Originally by: Astenion
Originally by: Lindsay Logan I can not bring myself to applaud any person for joining the military institution.
But were is the prise for men becoming nurses? Or is it just a one way thing?
Yes, because if we all just hold hands and hug trees then the entire world will be at peace. If it weren't for better men and women than yourself, you probably wouldn't be able to express your view on the subject.
The last "good" war was WWII. Everything since has been 1st world countries bombing the **** out of weaker and poorer nations for dubious reasons.
Those countries talk a lot of **** but then can't back it up
Originally by: Valkoinen Heteromies
I for one would love to be able to walk on stations and fly spaceships in the body of a little cute catgirl!
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2011.04.17 03:05:00 -
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Edited by: Toshiro GreyHawk on 17/04/2011 03:13:13
There were no good wars.
WWII came about because of what the British and French did to the Germans at the end of WWI.
Without the issue of the Versailles treaty - the NSDAP would NEVER have come to power.
In the Russian Civil War - the Whites outnumbered the Reds - but the Reds had the rail lines coming out of Moscow and could shuttle their troops from one front to the next, concentrating and defeating the White armies closing in on them one at a time.
Had the democracies of this world - put the communists down in Russia - there would have been no communists.
WWII on the Eastern Front was a war between two evil ideologies - nothing good was going to come out of that no matter who won.
What started WWII was when Germany invaded Poland. What gets glossed over - is how the communists (with their non-aggression pact with Germany) gobbled up the other half.
The Allied democracies - and the communists - defeated the Axis powers - but that left the other evil, the one we'd allied ourselves to - still to be defeated.
What the democracies did do - was adopt a policy of containment - knowing that communism was such an unworkable system that it would eventually collapse of it's own weight - and after 50 years and numerous, as they called them, Brush Fire Wars scattered across the globe it did. Of course - that was Soviet Communism - what's going to happen with the Chinese version we've yet to see. Some good people in China tried to do something about that at Tienanmen Square - and were crushed for their trouble - but then you still had 1st generation revolutionaries in power then. It was the great and great-great grandchildren of the Soviet Revolutionaries that put their forefathers failed vision in the grave.
Someone once said that evil existed in the world because good people allowed it to.
This is the case.
Good people are reluctant to force their will on others - but in their reluctance - they allow evil to go on.
And ... when evil does something bad enough ... a few brave young men and women get sent in to do what should have been done long ago - and with much greater numbers.
What good exists in this world - exists because of the brave young men and women who died to preserve it. Those who consider themselves pacifists - are the hand maidens of evil - for they act to protect the evil in this world from those who would undo it.
Of course ... simple, cowardice, laziness and cheapness are as much to blame as those silly people saying something as mind bogglingly stupid as "give peace a chance". The only thing that gives "peace" a chance - is the people with guns putting their flesh and blood on the line against the evil in this world.
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Alotta Baggage
Amarr Imperial Manufactorum Armada Assail
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Posted - 2011.04.17 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk Edited by: Toshiro GreyHawk on 17/04/2011 03:13:13
There were no good wars.
WWII came about because of what the British and French did to the Germans at the end of WWI.
Without the issue of the Versailles treaty - the NSDAP would NEVER have come to power.
In the Russian Civil War - the Whites outnumbered the Reds - but the Reds had the rail lines coming out of Moscow and could shuttle their troops from one front to the next, concentrating and defeating the White armies closing in on them one at a time.
Had the democracies of this world - put the communists down in Russia - there would have been no communists.
WWII on the Eastern Front was a war between two evil ideologies - nothing good was going to come out of that no matter who won.
What started WWII was when Germany invaded Poland. What gets glossed over - is how the communists (with their non-aggression pact with Germany) gobbled up the other half.
The Allied democracies - and the communists - defeated the Axis powers - but that left the other evil, the one we'd allied ourselves to - still to be defeated.
What the democracies did do - was adopt a policy of containment - knowing that communism was such an unworkable system that it would eventually collapse of it's own weight - and after 50 years and numerous, as they called them, Brush Fire Wars scattered across the globe it did. Of course - that was Soviet Communism - what's going to happen with the Chinese version we've yet to see. Some good people in China tried to do something about that at Tienanmen Square - and were crushed for their trouble - but then you still had 1st generation revolutionaries in power then. It was the great and great-great grandchildren of the Soviet Revolutionaries that put their forefathers failed vision in the grave.
Someone once said that evil existed in the world because good people allowed it to.
This is the case.
Good people are reluctant to force their will on others - but in their reluctance - they allow evil to go on.
And ... when evil does something bad enough ... a few brave young men and women get sent in to do what should have been done long ago - and with much greater numbers.
What good exists in this world - exists because of the brave young men and women who died to preserve it. Those who consider themselves pacifists - are the hand maidens of evil - for they act to protect the evil in this world from those who would undo it.
Of course ... simple, cowardice, laziness and cheapness are as much to blame as those silly people saying something as mind bogglingly stupid as "give peace a chance". The only thing that gives "peace" a chance - is the people with guns putting their flesh and blood on the line against the evil in this world.
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For the record, I support the evil side
Originally by: Valkoinen Heteromies
I for one would love to be able to walk on stations and fly spaceships in the body of a little cute catgirl!
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2011.04.17 03:24:00 -
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Originally by: Alotta Baggage
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For the record, I support the evil side
Ha! Ha!
Yeah right.
Unless you were lying about being in the Marines ... I think not ...
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Caleidascope
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.04.17 03:31:00 -
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Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk Edited by: Toshiro GreyHawk on 17/04/2011 03:13:13
There were no good wars.
WWII came about because of what the British and French did to the Germans at the end of WWI.
Without the issue of the Versailles treaty - the NSDAP would NEVER have come to power.
In the Russian Civil War - the Whites outnumbered the Reds - but the Reds had the rail lines coming out of Moscow and could shuttle their troops from one front to the next, concentrating and defeating the White armies closing in on them one at a time.
Had the democracies of this world - put the communists down in Russia - there would have been no communists.
It is said that wars are results of political failures. Your examples demonstrate it.
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Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
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Posted - 2011.04.17 03:55:00 -
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Edited by: Vogue on 17/04/2011 03:59:36 WW1 was not solely Germans fault but a miserable political failure of all the Euro-Russian super power blocs.
Blackadder How Did WW1 Start
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Blacksquirrel
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Posted - 2011.04.17 04:13:00 -
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We should ask another question. Whats the unemployment ratio of people with philosophy degrees at these days?
I swear half that video is the Israeli military.
Quote: In any case - a possible new recruiting ground for Female EVE Players?
Lol no just because A gal knows how to fire a rifle doesnt mean she'll like flying a digital space ship.
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2011.04.17 04:44:00 -
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Well ... WWI wasn't the Germans fault.
It was the fault of the Serbs, the Austrians and the Russians.
The Serbs and the Austrians had their problems. A Serbian Patriot shot and killed the Austrian Arch Duke and his wife - which precipitated a conflict between Austria and Serbia. Then - the Russians - who saw themselves as "Protectors of the Slavs" interfered.
Germany got pulled in because it was allied with Austria and France got pulled in because it was allied with Russia.
The Russians - because their troops were scattered over such a wide area and their infrastructure so poor - had to start mobilizing first or they'd never be ready by the time any of their opponents were ready. Their opponents - had to start mobilizing when the Russians mobilized or they wouldn't have had an army to defend themselves as most nations then had mass conscript armies.
The Germans - with the French on one side of them and the Russians on the other - wanted to knock one of them out of the war quick so they could concentrate all their forces on the other. In 1812 - the German forces accompanying Napoleon suffered greatly when they had to pull back when he couldn't supply his army - but - in 1870 the Prussians had made short work of Napoleon III and his army (largely because of Steel, Breach Loading Artillery) and no doubt hoped to do the same. That is - make quick work of the French so they could concentrate their strength against the more numerous Russians and their vast territory.
The border between France and Germany was in rough terrain the French (like the Germans) had sprinkled with forts. So - rather than go through there - the Germans went through the flat country north of the Ardennes Forrest - which was in Belgium. When Belgium (which up until then had been neutral) was invaded by the Germans hoping to out flank the French - the British intervened - and you had your cast of characters for most of the war. I'm vague on exactly when the Ottomans got involved - but they and the Russians had a recent history of conflict in a number of other areas. Italy joined the Allies hoping to gain some ground in the Balkans.
Bungling by the Germans in declaring unrestricted submarine warfare and sending a telegram to Mexico trying to get it to go to war with the US - got the Americans involved. Czarist incompetence and poor logistics as well as communist agitators put the Russian army in a bad state - then the Germans, who had Lenin in jail - sent him to Russia to help knock it out of the war - which worked.
When the Russians collapsed - the Germans and Austrians took the troops that were released and sent them against the British, the French and the Italians. Thus, 1918 began with a powerful surge by the Central Powers - but ended as that surge was exhausted and American numbers began to tell. That and the Allies began using tanks.
At the beginning of that war - all the principal players knew each other very well. Many of them were in fact related, mostly through Queen Victoria. There were real efforts made to stop that war but the mobilization mechanics had a momentum all their own and once all the troops were in place ... they were used.
It certainly was a failure of the political systems of the time - but then many of those systems were still Imperial Powers with only hints of representative government. That ... and ... they hadn't had a really big, long, nasty war since 1815 and pretty much everyone concerned had forgotten what that was like. There had been other wars in Europe - but they were not like the American Civil war (which was a big, long, nasty war). They were all relatively short and sharp. Everyone thought they'd win. Everyone thought it would all be over by the first Christmas - and it probably could have been ... but each side was still to sure of itself and hadn't had enough people die yet. Once enough people had died ... then it was one of those things where they were in it to the finish.
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2011.04.17 04:48:00 -
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Originally by: Blacksquirrel We should ask another question. Whats the unemployment ratio of people with philosophy degrees at these days?
I swear half that video is the Israeli military.
Quote: In any case - a possible new recruiting ground for Female EVE Players?
Lol no just because A gal knows how to fire a rifle doesnt mean she'll like flying a digital space ship.
No idea about employment opportunities for liberal arts majors ... as crappy as usual I'd suspect.
Yeah. I noticed a lot of IDF girls but then - the Israelis have a lot of women in their army so I'm not surprised at that.
As to Girl Soldiers Flying Digital Space Ships - I don't know - but being in the military ... might have given them a little taste for being Grrrrls ...
*shrug*
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Caleidascope
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.04.17 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk
It certainly was a failure of the political systems of the time - but then many of those systems were still Imperial Powers with only hints of representative government. That ... and ... they hadn't had a really big, long, nasty war since 1815 and pretty much everyone concerned had forgotten what that was like. There had been other wars in Europe - but they were not like the American Civil war (which was a big, long, nasty war). They were all relatively short and sharp. Everyone thought they'd win. Everyone thought it would all be over by the first Christmas - and it probably could have been ... but each side was still to sure of itself and hadn't had enough people die yet. Once enough people had died ... then it was one of those things where they were in it Quote:
Your argument is flawed by a simple fact that Russian Empire fought a war with Japan in 1904-1905. That war was a logistical nightmare for the Russians. The Russians, at least, knew that they should not enter any war and yet they went and joined WW One anyway.
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Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.04.17 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: Blacksquirrel We should ask another question. Whats the unemployment ratio of people with philosophy degrees at these days?
I swear half that video is the Israeli military.
That would be because the Israeli military has 2-3 year mandatory service commitments for every citizen, male and female...something more countries should do.
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Alotta Baggage
Amarr Imperial Manufactorum Armada Assail
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Posted - 2011.04.17 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk
Originally by: Alotta Baggage
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For the record, I support the evil side
Ha! Ha!
Yeah right.
Unless you were lying about being in the Marines ... I think not ...
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Wait, I thought we were the evil side
Why am I never told these things????
Originally by: Valkoinen Heteromies
I for one would love to be able to walk on stations and fly spaceships in the body of a little cute catgirl!
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Kurfin
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Posted - 2011.04.17 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Astenion
Originally by: Blacksquirrel We should ask another question. Whats the unemployment ratio of people with philosophy degrees at these days?
I swear half that video is the Israeli military.
That would be because the Israeli military has 2-3 year mandatory service commitments for every citizen, male and female...something more countries should do.
Absolutely not. In the UK we already have enough people running around killing each other. The last thing we want to do is teach them to be better at it.
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Hacklestacks McGee
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Posted - 2011.04.17 10:12:00 -
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Hello EVE. This is an internet forums post.
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Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.04.17 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kurfin
Originally by: Astenion
Originally by: Blacksquirrel We should ask another question. Whats the unemployment ratio of people with philosophy degrees at these days?
I swear half that video is the Israeli military.
That would be because the Israeli military has 2-3 year mandatory service commitments for every citizen, male and female...something more countries should do.
Absolutely not. In the UK we already have enough people running around killing each other. The last thing we want to do is teach them to be better at it.
Or teach them the value of human life and how weapons and violence are not things to toy around with. The people running around killing each other are undisciplined, spoiled kids with no structure or rules. You speak as if you have to join the military to learn how to use a firearm. Wake up.
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Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.04.17 10:45:00 -
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Edited by: Astenion on 17/04/2011 10:45:22 ACK! Stupid double post.
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Kurfin
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Posted - 2011.04.17 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Astenion
Originally by: Kurfin
Originally by: Astenion
Originally by: Blacksquirrel We should ask another question. Whats the unemployment ratio of people with philosophy degrees at these days?
I swear half that video is the Israeli military.
That would be because the Israeli military has 2-3 year mandatory service commitments for every citizen, male and female...something more countries should do.
Absolutely not. In the UK we already have enough people running around killing each other. The last thing we want to do is teach them to be better at it.
Or teach them the value of human life and how weapons and violence are not things to toy around with. The people running around killing each other are undisciplined, spoiled kids with no structure or rules. You speak as if you have to join the military to learn how to use a firearm. Wake up.
To be honest even if you started military service at 16 most of the problem kids will be past the point of redemption, and teaching them military tactics will just make life tougher for the police 3 years down the line when they get out. And for the majority of kids who won't end up working in a tiny number of professions, such as the police or fire service, it will be a massive waste of their time and taxpayers money.
And finally in the UK there are very few opportunities to learn to use a fire arm outside of the military or police, and none of them are open to 16 year old drug dealers.
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2011.04.17 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Caleidascope
Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk
It certainly was a failure of the political systems of the time - but then many of those systems were still Imperial Powers with only hints of representative government. That ... and ... they hadn't had a really big, long, nasty war since 1815 and pretty much everyone concerned had forgotten what that was like. There had been other wars in Europe - but they were not like the American Civil war (which was a big, long, nasty war). They were all relatively short and sharp. Everyone thought they'd win. Everyone thought it would all be over by the first Christmas - and it probably could have been ... but each side was still to sure of itself and hadn't had enough people die yet. Once enough people had died ... then it was one of those things where they were in it
Your argument is flawed by a simple fact that Russian Empire fought a war with Japan in 1904-1905. That war was a logistical nightmare for the Russians. The Russians, at least, knew that they should not enter any war and yet they went and joined WW One anyway.
Oh hell ...
1) The war against Japan took place at the far ends of their empire. The logistical lessons to be drawn there wouldn't have anything to do with a European war. So 1905 - is irrelevant.
2) The Russians did know though that they had a poor logistical system - that was why they had to start mobilizing early.
3) They also knew that they had one of the largest armies in Europe.
4) They didn't "join" WWI - they, the Austrians and the Serbs - started it - and everyone else got pulled in.
5) All the major powers knew they shouldn't go to war with each other - but they all did - and they all thought at the beginning of the war that they could win.
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Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2011.04.17 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: Lindsay Logan on 17/04/2011 14:11:34
Originally by: Astenion
Originally by: Lindsay Logan I can not bring myself to applaud any person for joining the military institution.
But were is the prise for men becoming nurses? Or is it just a one way thing?
Yes, because if we all just hold hands and hug trees then the entire world will be at peace. If it weren't for better men and women than yourself, you probably wouldn't be able to express your view on the subject.
Way to be ignorant
One thing is to make a stand for freedom, anohter is to blindly follow corrupt military institutions. You know, like the US amry invading other countires based on lies and greed.
Its actually because of folks like you supporting them we really do have needless wars in the first place.
Edit: Oh, and how could I forget, we have to hold hands and hug trees if we are kot killing...
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Blacksquirrel
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Posted - 2011.04.17 15:17:00 -
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Quote: I can not bring myself to applaud any person for joining the military institution.
But were is the prise for men becoming nurses? Or is it just a one way thing?
Isn't that akin to saying all person that work at McDonald's support obesity? And are therefore responsible for countless coronary failures of the hapless patrons?
And then LOLs (lots O lols actually) at the military making you in to sociopath... By that logic drivers ed turns one into a rally racer, and video games do in fact train children to shoot up their schools.
Someone needs to go back to basic stats class and re-read on causation v. correlation cause you are not doing the "free higher education for all" in Britain a justice this day.
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Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2011.04.17 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Blacksquirrel
Quote: I can not bring myself to applaud any person for joining the military institution.
But were is the prise for men becoming nurses? Or is it just a one way thing?
Isn't that akin to saying all person that work at McDonald's support obesity? And are therefore responsible for countless coronary failures of the hapless patrons?
And then LOLs (lots O lols actually) at the military making you in to sociopath... By that logic drivers ed turns one into a rally racer, and video games do in fact train children to shoot up their schools.
Someone needs to go back to basic stats class and re-read on causation v. correlation cause you are not doing the "free higher education for all" in Britain a justice this day.
Don't be an idiot
Are you really comparing war to serving at macdonalds? No wonder why the majority of people in these world are so stupid (besides, there are studies on teh effects of war onsoldiers, and its not good, I suggest you actually read up on it, since you seem to be so highand mighty about "UK education". Guess UK education is not all that good, eh?)
And in a way, yes, working for macdonalds means you are contributing to the effects that entail. You can not push the responsibility on others and be happy about it. IF you are not able to think for yourself and take responsibility for your own actions, you are a detrement to this world. E.g. soldiers following order blindly and going over to e.g. afganistan to kill. Its they who pull the triggers, not teh general or politicians. Responsibility is theirs as well.
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Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.04.17 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Lindsay Logan Edited by: Lindsay Logan on 17/04/2011 14:11:34
Originally by: Astenion
Originally by: Lindsay Logan I can not bring myself to applaud any person for joining the military institution.
But were is the prise for men becoming nurses? Or is it just a one way thing?
Yes, because if we all just hold hands and hug trees then the entire world will be at peace. If it weren't for better men and women than yourself, you probably wouldn't be able to express your view on the subject.
Way to be ignorant
One thing is to make a stand for freedom, anohter is to blindly follow corrupt military institutions. You know, like the US amry invading other countires based on lies and greed.
Its actually because of folks like you supporting them we really do have needless wars in the first place.
Edit: Oh, and how could I forget, we have to hold hands and hug trees if we are kot killing...
Yes because the Army doesn't follow orders given to them by POTUS, Congress, or the Secretary of Defense. Generals sitting at home, drinking beer on a Sunday watching the game on tv just up and decide they're going to invade countries and mobilize all their troops. Do you even know how governments and militaries work, or are you another idiot 15-year-old who plays too much CoD?
It's actually people like YOU that we have so much ignorance in the world today. Joining the military isn't "blindly following a military institution" you moron. The "military institution" you have a problem with would be the politicians who use the military for things other than what it's there for. Did you learn nothing from the Iraq war? That was the entire hypocrisy and scandal of it, that the government used the military for its own greed. Why do you think so many people are upset over it? Why do you think there's been such a backlash over it in the US?
Since according to you all militaries in the world are ebil, let's just all stop having militaries and see where that gets us. Let's see just how long that lasts since the military is to blame and not greedy, corrupt politicians sending them to their deaths. If you agree, then you really are a spineless pacifist. If you disagree, you're a hypocrite and must admit that militaries are necessary for the defense of a nation. Take your pick.
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