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The Anointed
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Posted - 2005.02.07 17:41:00 -
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This goes out to ccp and anyone that can feed me ideas.
What is our reason for exsisting? What makes us buzz? What could be a valid reason to roleplay caldari? Is there a reason I have overlooked that might create an environment such as the amarr vs minmatar rp'ing war? Where there is a real reason to exsist?
This is meant to create a valid talking point and also find out who would be interested in rp'ing caldari.
Discuss (and help me out with my reasons)
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Falbala
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Posted - 2005.02.07 17:48:00 -
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There is one corp called Drink Starsi which is a roleplaying Caldari corp, maybe not the only one but however you will get more clues from them than me^^. I think Caldari roleplay is about efficiency and how to get back Caldari Prime on Luminaire.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2005.02.07 18:03:00 -
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I used to roleplay a fascist caldari terrorist extremist who was obsessed with podding the Gallente and taking back Caldari Prime. Was quite fun. Then I got hooked on Quafe (which i was secretly drinking) and became a dissenter and took up anarchism, now i'm claiming that the State and the corporate cronies are all evil puppet masters manipulating everyone, and that we should all be free from their chains. You are not your ******* navy issue raven! (insert tyler durden).
Drink Starsi is a Caldari roleplay corp (Quite fun people too). As is the Omerta Syndicate afaik. It's fun if you can be imaginative.
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2005.02.07 18:04:00 -
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1) Making billions of ISK
2) Destroying rival corporations
3) Trading modules for profit
4) Hating the French with a passion
In other words, to 'correctly' play a Caldari, you don't have to roleplay at all. Caldari civilization strives for what we all strive for in EVE, to make lots of money and blow stuff up.
It's no wonder many players in EVE are Caldari. =]
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.02.07 18:08:00 -
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 Originally by: Falbala
There is one corp called Drink Starsi which is a roleplaying Caldari corp, maybe not the only one but however you will get more clues from them than me^^. I think Caldari roleplay is about efficiency and how to get back Caldari Prime on Luminaire.
*sigh*
Caldari RPing to get Caldari prime back, is as sad as Amarr RPing to attack and enslave all other peoples. It is a position that according to the prime fiction only the most extremist take. And honestly RPing a delusional psychotic extremist gets trying after a while.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.02.07 18:11:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 07/02/2005 18:11:18
I live to infest the Gallente Fed. And Caldari State with drugs and become rich while doing it.
All i need now is a smuggler ship and booster Bpo. 
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David Goodwill
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Posted - 2005.02.07 18:12:00 -
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If you want to roleplay caldari just think capatalist. Mega corps making millions while the poor suffer. Reading the new novella (Ruthless I think it is called) shows a good example of this in the first chapter. Come on the caldari channel sometime, there are a few of us on there who like to roleplay. In fact, Gentec is trying to plan a revolution at the moment, trying to bring about the downfall of the caldari megacorps to make way for a Socialist nation (an abhorration in Caldari eyes). We have just recruited the infamous Seto in fact, who has similar ideas to our own, in that he wants to unite all Caldari (and the other species for that matter) under one banner, and if anyone else thinks this way we would welcome you. Would be great to get a decent sized movement going. Could even make a news report. But anyway, enough of my shameless promoting, whatever you do, have fun with your roleplaying, and please excuse some of my terrible spelling in this post.
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Van Cleef
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Posted - 2005.02.07 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: theRaptor
Originally by: Falbala
There is one corp called Drink Starsi which is a roleplaying Caldari corp, maybe not the only one but however you will get more clues from them than me^^. I think Caldari roleplay is about efficiency and how to get back Caldari Prime on Luminaire.
*sigh*
Caldari RPing to get Caldari prime back, is as sad as Amarr RPing to attack and enslave all other peoples. It is a position that according to the prime fiction only the most extremist take. And honestly RPing a delusional psychotic extremist gets trying after a while.
The friction that would exist between the Caldari and the Gallente isn't for only the extemists. They did fight a very long and bloody battle in which the Caldari, an already proud people, lost their homeworld. I would imagine losing one's homeworld has to create quite the chip on one's shoulder. Does that mean mass podding on a daily basis, no, but there would exist tension and trying to one up each other, at least in my opinion.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.02.07 18:29:00 -
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Caldari society is one of extreme social and emotional repression. Why isn't 100% clear, but this is the way they survived through the Gal-Cal war and is the cause for their aggressive tendencies and needs. SplinterZ, Mind Clash, etc all funnel the emotional repression of the agressive tendencies into games and gambling, thereby focussing the Caldari agressive and slightly xenophobic nature away from the memories of the Gal-Cal war.
The loss of their prime world should only be a source of bitterness towards the Gallente, in cases other then extremism. The Caldari way of repressing emotions would likely mean that open and outspoken hostility towards Gallente isn't tolerated within State supervision, although being a Gallentean citizen on a back-water Caldari world'd mean that you'd likely lose some of your limbs (Caldari are vicious little things).
I concur with the statement that caldari rping to get back their homeworld is as pointless as trying to be an active Reclaimer (an openly threatening everyone not amarr to be enslaved).
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Van Cleef
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Posted - 2005.02.07 23:33:00 -
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The desire to reclaim the homeworld would be something that every Caldari would want. The desire to renew the Gallente/Caldari war to do so isn't. I do not think that it is equatiable to the Amarr wanting to enslave the other races - that would be a more extreme viewpoint in my opinion.
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2005.02.07 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: theRaptor
And honestly RPing a delusional psychotic extremist gets trying after a while.
It aint THAT bad ;)
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Grey Night
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Posted - 2005.02.07 23:49:00 -
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In MY opinion the basis of Caldari society is the corporation. The goverment is actually a lacky of the mega-corps and everything revolves around their profit.
As such you have few RP options to you.
1)Corporate Lacky: Your sole purpose in life is to help your corp succeed and thus insure your promotion.
2)Businessman: You are determined to build your own mega crop and become a power player. Everything you do is toward that end.
3)Portector of the People: You feel the corporations are actually bad and care nothing for the people so you actively work against them.
4) Caldari Patriot: You seek to protect the Caldari people and thus are an AVID pirate hunter (the enemies of commerce) as well as work to help the State regain Caldari prime.
These are just a few motivations for effective Caldari RP.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.02.07 23:52:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 07/02/2005 23:52:34
"SplinterZ, Mind Clash, etc all funnel the emotional repression of the agressive tendencies into games and gambling, thereby focussing the Caldari agressive and slightly xenophobic nature away from the memories of the Gal-Cal war."
Am not xenophobic, i just don't like foreigners. :s
(with exceptions...)
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Selim
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Posted - 2005.02.08 00:49:00 -
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I think the majority of Caldari role-players are silly because they all go nutso over retaking Caldari Prime.
Where are the Caldari dissenters that fight the State? The Isolationists? The standard corporate drones and CEOs? What about the globalists and those who have nothing at all to do with the state?
And frankly, RPing just to have an amarr vs minmatar-type war is not RPing.
I really think the Caldari are the most RP-friendly race, there is simply so many ways to do it. And none of them have to include anything about the Gallente or Caldari Prime. Personally I'd be a Caldari pressing for economic, social and governmental reform, being an outspoken figure against the State in a state which does not allow such freedoms as speaking against it or the corporations. But thats just me and my democratic, market-liberal views speaking, but it would really be fun. Especially since few people do it. Being one of the psychotic masses of armed and ready Caldari gunning down Gallente isn't my idea of proper roleplaying, nor is it original.
So basically, be original. Besides, the caldari are due for a nerf soon, and you might just find yourselfs outgunned by a Gallente fleet... 
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Delath
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Posted - 2005.02.08 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: David Goodwill
he wants to unite all Caldari (and the other species for that matter) under one banner,
The non-Caldari are another species??! No you're not xenophobic at all
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Kyoko Sakoda
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Posted - 2005.02.08 03:38:00 -
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Depending on what type of corporation you join, you can do some interesting things inside of just that. If your the RP type I'd suggest you read over the backstory to the G/C war, get accquainted with Drink Starsi, and some other things mentioned. Our corporation has made up a nifty story to shadow the entire "after thoughts of the G/C war" deal and, basically, makes it almost non-existant in RP (not that it doesn't matter) if following that isn't your deal.
I like to look at it like Japan. Very honor driven, focus is on succeeding and achieving goals, and there is competition.
Also keep in mind you don't need to drive down one lane. You can merge into the liberal, moderate, or conservative states of mind as well. Be creative =)
-Kyoko Sakoda
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Dau Imperius
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Posted - 2005.02.08 05:59:00 -
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Luckily this race, just like other has no 'set' guidelines for every single person to behave.
There are really in the end just generalizations and guidelines to follow, based on the races history and psyche.
You can't call ever Amarr a religious/slaver, just as you can't call every Minmatar a tribal/freedomfighter, a Gallente a Free-willed/Anything goes or a Caldari a Buisness/Corporate Slave.
These are generalizations. They are just like real people RP-wise...not static.
When making a character for real RP, you do need to start from these gneralizations and move-on from there.
Let's take a Caldari for instance:
Say they were born into the big corporate life. Most people would immediatly think: "Oh he's going to be the next big thing of the corporation, or a spineless corporate slave."
Could be right...and could be wrong.
Put in some factors. Does the family stay in this position? Are they fired? What good things have happned? What bad things have happend along the way?
Are there any events that could radically change, or even subtly change the way your character behaves/thinks?
For all you know this born into a wealthy corporate family child could grow up to hate the very things he was brought to love....or become so obsssed with it, he'll do anything to make it more powerful.
What are the characters goals? What made these goals? Does this Caldari wish to see a return to older way of Honor among the Caldri, in a time that might have existed before money became more important? (The Japanese-lifestyle is the closest example as someone stated before)
Are there any groups they identify with...or dislike?
You could quite literally spend an hour or more just making a background for your character and they way you play it. There are so many variables.
I know it's slightly off, but one of the best character generators I had seen for background had been from the old Mechwarrior RPG (No not the Battletech minatures game, this is a different version). It gave you your character based on the characters past and how he grew up, events along the way and how they trained. You also had negative traits and positive ones. No one is perfect after all. (and those that say so are suffering from delusions which is negative in itself)
I know RP for many in MMPOG's doesn't exist in the real shape or form it was intended to be from PnP, but if you want to set up some goals, a good character background can be one of the most driving factors you'll ever have. Best part is it has nothing to do with the pixels you see on your screen...it has to do with you! It won't change a thing but the way you might see your character and play it.
Rambling again now....anyways. You can RP a Caldari (or any race for that matter). You just have to figure out what your 'angle' is on the whole character and how they relate to EVE.
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