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Vandir Rael
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Posted - 2011.04.28 07:52:00 -
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Hi all,
i'd like to ask some hints about this thorax fit (meant for solo 0.0 pvp):
2x mag stab I
800mm reinforced rolled tungsten plates I
Energized adaptive nano membrane I
Damage control I
Stasis webifier I
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Warp scrambler I
For the high slots I see most posted fits just use 5x Heavy electron blaster I, but i why shouldn't I fit 3x Anode neutron particle cannon?
The powergrid need is doubled, but even the damage modifier (4.025x against 1.75x), wouldn't 3 of those be better than 5 electrons?
And i would have 2 high slots free, not much powergrid left (60) but i could fit something small there...
Am i doing something wrong?
Forgive me if I did something bad, this is my first pvp ship (I chose thorax beacause is fairly cheap, i would have preferred a t1 frigate but i feared it couldn't have enough dps to do something effective in 0.0 space, would it be a better start?)
Thank you very much
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Chinwe Rhei
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2011.04.28 08:12:00 -
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Electron Blasters fire faster than Neutron ones, not fast enough to give them better dps but still 5xElectrons are better than 3xNeutron.
Also when a fit is written as using Tech I that's usually because nobody knows all the named module names by heart. It's assumed that you'll put named stuff in there whenever you can.
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Berendas
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.04.28 09:00:00 -
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1600mm plate fits with 5 electrons and and RCU, substitue T1/named where necessary.
5x Heavy Electron Blaster
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Scrambler II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon Microwarpdrive
Damage Control II
2x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Reactor Control Unit II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plate
-Drones-
5x Hammerhead II
-Rigs-
3x Medium Trimark Armor Pump
28k EHP, 538 dps, 1056 m/s with my skills
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Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
Beer and Smoke Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.28 09:11:00 -
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Use autocannons on a thorax
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.04.28 09:21:00 -
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Buy a rupture then, use medium blasters on a thorax.
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Waylan Yutani
Gallente
Order of the Seraphim
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Posted - 2011.04.28 10:00:00 -
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Platerrax, 5 light neutrons - 5 light drones, 5 light ecm drones and your good to go. Use afterburner!
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Concubinia Scarlett
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Posted - 2011.04.28 11:00:00 -
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I would advise you to use a Vexor instead, with the state of hybrids its a MUCH better ship right now for both pvp and pve.
That said I have a friend that swears by small (frig sized) neutrons on a thorax. He reckons it still does ok damage and eats frigs that think it's easy prey.
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Batelle
do you
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Posted - 2011.04.28 11:21:00 -
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5x ion blaster ii's
y-t8 mwd
x5 stasis webifier
j5b prototype warp scram
800mm reinforced rolled tungsten
energized adaptive nano membrane ii
damage control ii
magnetic field stabilizer ii
magnetic field stabilizer ii
rigs optional
5x vespa ec-600 (important)
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baltec1
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Posted - 2011.04.28 14:13:00 -
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I like ION blasters more than a full rack of neutrons.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.04.28 14:30:00 -
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 Originally by: Waylan Yutani
Platerrax, 5 light neutrons - 5 light drones, 5 light ecm drones and your good to go. Use afterburner!
Buy a vexor. Light neutrons is just stupid on a thorax, kinda like fitting split drones, just put med ECM drones in it.
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O Elizunia
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Posted - 2011.04.28 14:49:00 -
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Edited by: O Elizunia on 28/04/2011 14:49:19
http://youtu.be/9bz4dvXsN5I
4 x Tech Small Neutrons.
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Jerick Ludhowe
Tri-gun
Auctorita Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.28 23:39:00 -
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lows:
2x eanmII
1600mm Tungsten
DCU
1x MFSII or specific hardenered
Mids:
yt8
scram II
web II
Highs:
5x Heavy Electron II
Rigs:
2x med trimark
1x acr
implants: 1% grid
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Straight Edged
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Posted - 2011.04.28 23:45:00 -
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the above two fits are the most horrible fitting you can ever use.
More expensive then a fitted hurricane after basic insurance
Less ehp
Less dps
Less speed
Less agility
Locks slower
Locks shorter
Less projection
Less anti-frig weapons
Less neuts
Less slots
Less everything
in short, yeah. thorax really suk. (but then, all t1 cruisers are basically useless except maller or blackbird)
The only thing it has is a smaller signature radius. Oh. lol.
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Zerp Metesur
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Posted - 2011.04.29 01:16:00 -
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Medium Armor Repairer II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Warp Disruptor II
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Medium Energy Burst Aerator I
Medium Energy Collision Accelerator I
Originally by: Furb Killer
Originally by: Waylan Yutani
Platerrax, 5 light neutrons - 5 light drones, 5 light ecm drones and your good to go. Use afterburner!
Buy a vexor. Light neutrons is just stupid on a thorax, kinda like fitting split drones, just put med ECM drones in it.
Nothing dumb about it. Small guns = pirate fitting. You get much more buffer from a rax and sentries pop vexor drones. Split drones are important for dealing with frigates you wouldn't be able to track normally.
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VaL Iscariot
b.b.k
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.04.29 01:26:00 -
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[Thorax, Thorax]
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Warp Scrambler II
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Vespa EC-600 x5
Thorax doesn't get much better then this to be honest. Mini-Brutix.
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demonfurbie
Minmatar
Drunken Wookies
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.04.29 04:02:00 -
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[Thorax, SHIELD]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
Tracking Enhancer II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Fleeting Progressive Warp Scrambler I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Vespa EC-600 x5
ya would be supprised how nice it works ... carry null and void(range and larger tarrgets)
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Lost Greybeard
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Posted - 2011.04.29 04:45:00 -
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Originally by: Straight Edged
the above two fits are the most horrible fitting you can ever use.
More expensive then a fitted hurricane after basic insurance
Oh, no, a cruiser is generally less powerful than a BC! How horrible and unexpected! 
And, no, they're not. Any fit of comparable quality on a BC will be more expensive than on a cruiser, if only because they have twice the guns and twice the low slots. I guess if you're comparing the t2 thorax to a ****-fit hurricane...
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Jace81
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.04.29 06:31:00 -
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Electrons if you like dps and getting really close
Ions if you like Alpha and moderate dps while orbiting with some leeway
Neutrons Lots of alpha IF you can hit your target uses rediculus amounts of pg......Wait who puts these on T1 Cruisers?
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.04.29 07:48:00 -
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Confirming 5xEC-600s is what makes the Thorax good. Dishonore drone tank, best tank.
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Straight Edged
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Posted - 2011.04.29 07:53:00 -
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[QUOTE]And, no, they're not. Any fit of comparable quality on a BC will be more expensive than on a cruiser, if only because they have twice the guns and twice the low slots. I guess if you're comparing the t2 thorax to a ****-fit hurricane...[/QUOTE]
my point is simple.
The hurricane is cheaper even with only basic insurance then your fit.
And even then, it has much more DPS
and much more EHP
and much more agility
and much more speed
and much more capacitor
and much more overheat time
and much more lock range
and much more lock
AND its autocannon and not hybrid
its better in every single friggin way except signature radius which no one cares.
Now. sure, its a friggin battlecruiser.
But if its cheaper AND better in every single way, you know t1 cruiser is just pile of thrash. The only way cruisers can be "unique" or "decent" would be the blackbird, the maller, or a cheaply fit thorax/ruppy/stabber
Stop wasting isk and SP on the thorax. seriously.
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Zerp Metesur
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Posted - 2011.04.29 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: Straight Edged
Expense isn't a relevant issue for many players.
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Straight Edged
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Posted - 2011.04.29 11:05:00 -
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firepower sure is an issue.
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Jerick Ludhowe
Tri-gun
Auctorita Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.29 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Straight Edged
2/10 on this thread I must say.
*****ing at people for posting thorax fits instead of hurricane fits in a thorax thread seems a bit trolly to me good sir. |
Debrie
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Posted - 2011.04.29 11:27:00 -
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Edited by: Debrie on 29/04/2011 11:29:37
if firepower is an issue , I would mount dual 150 rails with antimatter in hold
you can apply damage immediatly have decent tracking , continue appying dps the entier fight and have PG to boot , while scoring more total damage than if you had equipt powerhog blasters that require 2-3 ammo types and a 4-5 km window
unless of coarse your assured of absolute tackle double webbed warp to 0 that is |
Straight Edged
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Posted - 2011.04.29 11:53:00 -
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Quote:
2/10 on this thread I must say.
*****ing at people for posting thorax fits instead of hurricane fits in a thorax thread seems a bit trolly to me good sir.
i just wanna stop people from flying horrible ships just because battleclinic says so.
Thorax is just like the bantam
100% useless
100% outclassed by a cheaper ship.
Simple.
When a fit being outclassed by a more expensive ship, sure, whatever.
But when a fit is being outclassed by a cheaper ship, its time to find a better boat to fly.
T1 cruiser. stick to blackbird or mallers. the rest are junk.
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Tibilo
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Posted - 2011.04.29 12:03:00 -
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[Thorax, electrons]
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Reactor Control Unit II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Medium Hybrid Ambit Extension I
Medium Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I
Hammerhead II x5
It needs an engineering implant to fit a 3rd weapon rig which you could do without. Cheaper than using power or armor rigs and gets to keep some speed.
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Waylan Yutani
Gallente
Order of the Seraphim
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Posted - 2011.04.29 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: Straight Edged
Quote:
2/10 on this thread I must say.
*****ing at people for posting thorax fits instead of hurricane fits in a thorax thread seems a bit trolly to me good sir.
i just wanna stop people from flying horrible ships just because battleclinic says so.
Thorax is just like the bantam
100% useless
100% outclassed by a cheaper ship.
Simple.
When a fit being outclassed by a more expensive ship, sure, whatever.
But when a fit is being outclassed by a cheaper ship, its time to find a better boat to fly.
T1 cruiser. stick to blackbird or mallers. the rest are junk.
Rax works perfectly fine - let me see your most impressive solo kill with a cruiser, and i'll show you mine with a rax :)
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