Listen Herr Wilkus, James 315, whatever you're calling yourself these days... just stop. It's getting old. Oh wait this isn't a whining about mining thread?

For the record I don't know who they are
And secondly IT FRIGGIN WORKS

Listen Herr Wilkus, James 315, whatever you're calling yourself these days... just stop. It's getting old.

Hi. I'm not an alt of OP or Herr Wilkus, but in the case of Herr Wilkus I'll take it as a compliment.

Lol sometimes when I am bored, I like to take a thrasher and get a nice tight orbit on a miner then lock them...actually haven't done that in a while...living in lowsec takes that fun away...lol...

What is people's obsession with miners? I've only been playing ten days and all I hear about on here is miners.

Of course you would, you both whine more than anyone else in EVE and think it makes a difference if you do it enough. You're both like little 6 yr olds crying because someone took your toy away and if you do it long enough, they will get annoyed and just give you what you want to shut you up. Fortunately it doesn't work that way here.

What is people's obsession with miners? I've only been playing ten days and all I hear about on here is miners.

What is people's obsession with miners? I've only been playing ten days and all I hear about on here is miners.

Welcome to EVE Online, you will learn that a large % of forum users will whine about mining. Few reasons really, because miners can mine with a bit less risk than most other professions in EVE, you can be semi AFK while you mine (depending on what you mine) and the last bit is miners used to be easy to kill, but CCP recently improved the ships to make them a bit tougher and instead of adapting to this change...those crybabies flock to this forum to constantly kick and scream about it because it now will take a bit of effort to kill them.

Better yet , take a Drake and fly MWD STRAIGHT at them and fire missiles at the Rock near him , only works in 0.0 tho... but most of the time they just run off

Most miners (not all) are the poster child for the risk adverse. In my experience with the game they also are the scrubs (whining for mechanics changing without using the options already provided to them in game).

Due to this, in certain groups, pure miners have a stigma of being horrible for the game. We in that group tend to mess with them when possible. If the miners are not what we have stereotyped them to be, they would fight back in someway shape or form; however most do not, they simply run and hide and complain about it. Hence proving they are the scrubs we believe them to be.

Fighting a miner is like getting into a bar fight with a tax accountant ....
No glory , but funny as sheet

Or maybe, just maybe, the Mackinaw is now unbalanced and OP.
Typical CCP: taking something that wasn't broke and breaking it.

At least before Aug 8, you tended to see both Hulks and Macks.

Today? Nothing but Mackinaws (and clouds of botting Retrievers).

Suggests a balance problem - one that could be easily solved by significantly reducing Mackinaw EHP.

This way, each Exhumer has a downside.

Hulk: miners must micromanage the Ore bay.
Mackinaw: suicide gankers
Skiff: least desirable mining profile.

Whining until CCP gives them less ehp is just stupid.

Where were you when the miners whined for more EHP?

the last bit is miners used to be easy to kill, but CCP recently improved the ships to make them a bit tougher and instead of adapting to this change...those crybabies flock to this forum to constantly kick and scream about it because it now will take a bit of effort to kill them..

Most miners (not all) are the poster child for the risk adverse.

What is people's obsession with miners? I've only been playing ten days and all I hear about on here is miners.

The barges/exhumers needed more hit points, they were far to low for what the ships cost. Exhumers should have always had high ehp as they are the highest end ships you can get for mining.
CCP didn't rebalance the ships because people whined, they rebalanced them because they needed a rebalance.

Exhumers have been around since, what, 2006? They just noticed the need for more EHP after Infinite Hulkageddon and all the whining? I think you know better than that.

Exhumers have been around since, what, 2006? They just noticed the need for more EHP after Infinite Hulkageddon and all the whining? I think you know better than that.

Welcome to EVE Online, you will learn that a large % of forum users will whine about mining. Few reasons really, because miners can mine with a bit less risk than most other professions in EVE, you can be semi AFK while you mine (depending on what you mine) and the last bit is miners used to be easy to kill, but CCP recently improved the ships to make them a bit tougher and instead of adapting to this change...those crybabies flock to this forum to constantly kick and scream about it because it now will take a bit of effort to kill them.

The barges/exhumers needed more hit points, they were far to low for what the ships cost. Exhumers should have always had high ehp as they are the highest end ships you can get for mining.

Most miners (not all) are the poster child for the risk adverse. In my experience with the game they also are the scrubs (whining for mechanics changing without using the options already provided to them in game).

Due to this, in certain groups, pure miners have a stigma of being horrible for the game. We in that group tend to mess with them when possible. If the miners are not what we have stereotyped them to be, they would fight back in someway shape or form; however most do not, they simply run and hide and complain about it. Hence proving they are the scrubs we believe them to be.

Awesome! More stupid assumptions and invalid points! How is a miner supposed to fight back? Last time I checked mining lasers dont do any damage to a ship. Do you want them to reship and come at you in a BC? What a brilliant idea for pure industrial toons, dont waste time training industry skills, stop that nonsense and train up combat skills even though that is not what you want to do in the game. Go hire a merc corp and pay hundreds of millions to war dec the gankers corp. Maybe if you get lucky they might actually get to kill the one tough guy who blew up your defenseless mining barge. All that for a few hundred million, what a bargain!

The bottom line is, it makes James and friends mad that they can attack a miner and then be ignored. They dont understand that not everyone wants to train up combat skills and participate in blob warfare. They dont understand that it is far cheaper to replace a mining barge than it is to wardec and pay mercs. They dont understand that many miners have spent time in null and found it was simply not for them. In the end, it is a lack of understanding that starts most conflicts, both in Eve and in the real world.

What is people's obsession with miners? I've only been playing ten days and all I hear about on here is miners.

What is people's obsession with miners? I've only been playing ten days and all I hear about on here is miners.

What is people's obsession with miners? I've only been playing ten days and all I hear about on here is miners.

Of course you would, you both whine more than anyone else in EVE and think it makes a difference if you do it enough.

People just need to find a mining op going on in highsec somewhere with a ton of exhumers sitting around, warp in with a BS with smartbombs fit, and just get their rage out already.

I'd be surprised if you can't still blow up a couple of exhumers with a smartbomb BS.... just have to man up and take the sec hit.