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Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
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Posted - 2012.09.03 15:37:00 -
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Step1 : Find the miner Step2: Fly flank speed directly towards him Step3: Once you get within 30km, release your combat drones and target them Step4: Private Convo Step5: ? Step6 : Profit! Or you start firing your Rokh's mining laser at a rock near him lol Life is complicated. When the war came I did bad things; after the war I thought nothing of doing bad things. I killed people, smuggled people, sold people. Maybe here things will be different.. |

Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
1514
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Posted - 2012.09.03 15:38:00 -
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Listen Herr Wilkus, James 315, whatever you're calling yourself these days... just stop. It's getting old. |

Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
121
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Posted - 2012.09.03 15:40:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Listen Herr Wilkus, James 315, whatever you're calling yourself these days... just stop. It's getting old. Oh wait this isn't a whining about mining thread? For the record I don't know who they are And secondly IT FRIGGIN WORKS
 Life is complicated. When the war came I did bad things; after the war I thought nothing of doing bad things. I killed people, smuggled people, sold people. Maybe here things will be different.. |

Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
1514
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Posted - 2012.09.03 15:41:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Listen Herr Wilkus, James 315, whatever you're calling yourself these days... just stop. It's getting old. Oh wait this isn't a whining about mining thread? For the record I don't know who they are And secondly IT FRIGGIN WORKS 
It might work on the occasional moron, but that won't happen very often. |

Abel Merkabah
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
138
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Posted - 2012.09.03 15:41:00 -
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Lol sometimes when I am bored, I like to take a thrasher and get a nice tight orbit on a miner then lock them...actually haven't done that in a while...living in lowsec takes that fun away...lol... "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems." |

James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2589
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Posted - 2012.09.03 15:42:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Listen Herr Wilkus, James 315, whatever you're calling yourself these days... just stop. It's getting old. Hi. I'm not an alt of OP or Herr Wilkus, but in the case of Herr Wilkus I'll take it as a compliment. 
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Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
1514
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Posted - 2012.09.03 15:45:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Listen Herr Wilkus, James 315, whatever you're calling yourself these days... just stop. It's getting old. Hi. I'm not an alt of OP or Herr Wilkus, but in the case of Herr Wilkus I'll take it as a compliment. 
Of course you would, you both whine more than anyone else in EVE and think it makes a difference if you do it enough. You're both like little 6 yr olds crying because someone took your toy away. |

Galen Enderstone
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.09.03 15:46:00 -
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What is people's obsession with miners? I've only been playing ten days and all I hear about on here is miners. |

Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
123
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Posted - 2012.09.03 15:47:00 -
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Abel Merkabah wrote:Lol sometimes when I am bored, I like to take a thrasher and get a nice tight orbit on a miner then lock them...actually haven't done that in a while...living in lowsec takes that fun away...lol...
Better yet , take a Drake and fly MWD STRAIGHT at them and fire missiles at the Rock near him , only works in 0.0 tho... but most of the time they just run off
Galen Enderstone wrote:What is people's obsession with miners? I've only been playing ten days and all I hear about on here is miners.
Miners are like the qweebs in school ,weaklings that everyone makes fun of , its a running gag lol Life is complicated. When the war came I did bad things; after the war I thought nothing of doing bad things. I killed people, smuggled people, sold people. Maybe here things will be different.. |

James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2589
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Posted - 2012.09.03 15:47:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:James 315 wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Listen Herr Wilkus, James 315, whatever you're calling yourself these days... just stop. It's getting old. Hi. I'm not an alt of OP or Herr Wilkus, but in the case of Herr Wilkus I'll take it as a compliment.  Of course you would, you both whine more than anyone else in EVE and think it makes a difference if you do it enough. You're both like little 6 yr olds crying because someone took your toy away and if you do it long enough, they will get annoyed and just give you what you want to shut you up. Fortunately it doesn't work that way here. IIRC, the miners got their EHP buffs as a result of endless forum whining. 
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Buck Futz
Suddenly Violence Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
72
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Posted - 2012.09.03 15:47:00 -
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OP is easily amused, apparently.
Confirming that Herr Wilkus <> James315. Though to a certain extent, I suppose, we are just all eyes on the same head.
What are you doing posting here though?
Don't you have Part 3 to write on themittani.com |

Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
1516
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Posted - 2012.09.03 15:48:00 -
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Galen Enderstone wrote:What is people's obsession with miners? I've only been playing ten days and all I hear about on here is miners.
Welcome to EVE Online, you will learn that a large % of forum users will whine about mining. Few reasons really, because miners can mine with a bit less risk than most other professions in EVE, you can be semi AFK while you mine (depending on what you mine) and the last bit is miners used to be easy to kill, but CCP recently improved the ships to make them a bit tougher and instead of adapting to this change...those crybabies flock to this forum to constantly kick and scream about it because it now will take a bit of effort to kill them. |

Alice Saki
4444
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Posted - 2012.09.03 15:51:00 -
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Lol... I do stupid stuff like that...
I normaly find an AFK orca with a Fleet for mining ships I bump the orca away from the mining barges, 9/10 the barges are orbiting the orca so they follow and at long last they are out of mining range ;)
...Something to do while scanning :P Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Riot Girl
Riot Club
57
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Posted - 2012.09.03 15:51:00 -
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How much DPS do you need to suicide gank miners? |

Abel Merkabah
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
138
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Posted - 2012.09.03 15:53:00 -
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Galen Enderstone wrote:What is people's obsession with miners? I've only been playing ten days and all I hear about on here is miners.
Most miners (not all) are the poster child for the risk adverse. In my experience with the game they also are the scrubs (whining for mechanics changing without using the options already provided to them in game).
Due to this, in certain groups, pure miners have a stigma of being horrible for the game. We in that group tend to mess with them when possible. If the miners are not what we have stereotyped them to be, they would fight back in someway shape or form; however most do not, they simply run and hide and complain about it. Hence proving they are the scrubs we believe them to be. "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems." |

Buck Futz
Suddenly Violence Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
72
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Posted - 2012.09.03 15:59:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Galen Enderstone wrote:What is people's obsession with miners? I've only been playing ten days and all I hear about on here is miners. Welcome to EVE Online, you will learn that a large % of forum users will whine about mining. Few reasons really, because miners can mine with a bit less risk than most other professions in EVE, you can be semi AFK while you mine (depending on what you mine) and the last bit is miners used to be easy to kill, but CCP recently improved the ships to make them a bit tougher and instead of adapting to this change...those crybabies flock to this forum to constantly kick and scream about it because it now will take a bit of effort to kill them.
Or maybe, just maybe, the Mackinaw is now unbalanced and OP. Typical CCP: taking something that wasn't broke and breaking it.
At least before Aug 8, you tended to see both Hulks and Macks.
Today? Nothing but Mackinaws (and clouds of botting Retrievers).
Suggests a balance problem - one that could be easily solved by significantly reducing Mackinaw EHP.
This way, each Exhumer has a downside.
Hulk: miners must micromanage the Ore bay. Mackinaw: suicide gankers Skiff: least desirable mining profile.
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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1042
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Posted - 2012.09.03 16:00:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote: Better yet , take a Drake and fly MWD STRAIGHT at them and fire missiles at the Rock near him , only works in 0.0 tho... but most of the time they just run off
Op has a hard time targeting ships and not rocks... force of habit? |

Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
123
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Posted - 2012.09.03 16:00:00 -
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Abel Merkabah wrote:Galen Enderstone wrote:What is people's obsession with miners? I've only been playing ten days and all I hear about on here is miners. Most miners (not all) are the poster child for the risk adverse. In my experience with the game they also are the scrubs (whining for mechanics changing without using the options already provided to them in game). Due to this, in certain groups, pure miners have a stigma of being horrible for the game. We in that group tend to mess with them when possible. If the miners are not what we have stereotyped them to be, they would fight back in someway shape or form; however most do not, they simply run and hide and complain about it. Hence proving they are the scrubs we believe them to be.
Fighting a miner is like getting into a bar fight with a tax accountant .... No glory , but funny as sheet Life is complicated. When the war came I did bad things; after the war I thought nothing of doing bad things. I killed people, smuggled people, sold people. Maybe here things will be different.. |

Abel Merkabah
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
138
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Posted - 2012.09.03 16:04:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:Abel Merkabah wrote:Galen Enderstone wrote:What is people's obsession with miners? I've only been playing ten days and all I hear about on here is miners. Most miners (not all) are the poster child for the risk adverse. In my experience with the game they also are the scrubs (whining for mechanics changing without using the options already provided to them in game). Due to this, in certain groups, pure miners have a stigma of being horrible for the game. We in that group tend to mess with them when possible. If the miners are not what we have stereotyped them to be, they would fight back in someway shape or form; however most do not, they simply run and hide and complain about it. Hence proving they are the scrubs we believe them to be. Fighting a miner is like getting into a bar fight with a tax accountant .... No glory , but funny as sheet
Lol...actually not a ganker...so I don't really fight miners...granted I will attack any ship while roaming, but don't go out of my way to target miners...I just like to mess with them because I know they are skittish...lol "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems." |

Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
1518
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Posted - 2012.09.03 16:10:00 -
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Buck Futz wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Galen Enderstone wrote:What is people's obsession with miners? I've only been playing ten days and all I hear about on here is miners. Welcome to EVE Online, you will learn that a large % of forum users will whine about mining. Few reasons really, because miners can mine with a bit less risk than most other professions in EVE, you can be semi AFK while you mine (depending on what you mine) and the last bit is miners used to be easy to kill, but CCP recently improved the ships to make them a bit tougher and instead of adapting to this change...those crybabies flock to this forum to constantly kick and scream about it because it now will take a bit of effort to kill them. Or maybe, just maybe, the Mackinaw is now unbalanced and OP. Typical CCP: taking something that wasn't broke and breaking it. At least before Aug 8, you tended to see both Hulks and Macks. Today? Nothing but Mackinaws (and clouds of botting Retrievers). Suggests a balance problem - one that could be easily solved by significantly reducing Mackinaw EHP. This way, each Exhumer has a downside. Hulk: miners must micromanage the Ore bay. Mackinaw: suicide gankers Skiff: least desirable mining profile.
The Mackinaw already doesn't have that much ehp. Tanked it has around 30k If you're that obsessed with ganking miners, bring more ships. Whining until CCP gives them less ehp is just stupid. I still see plenty of Hulks, Covetors, tons of Skiffs and Procurers so I don't think the occasional group of retriever/mackinaw bots really warrants a nerf in hit points. |

James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2590
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Posted - 2012.09.03 16:17:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Whining until CCP gives them less ehp is just stupid. Where were you when the miners whined for more EHP? 
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Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
1519
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Posted - 2012.09.03 16:21:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Whining until CCP gives them less ehp is just stupid. Where were you when the miners whined for more EHP? 
The barges/exhumers needed more hit points, they were far to low for what the ships cost. Exhumers should have always had high ehp as they are the highest end ships you can get for mining. CCP didn't rebalance the ships because people whined, they rebalanced them because they needed a rebalance. Just like frigates are getting done, destroyers will eventually and so on. It was simply the barges/exhumers turn first.
The people whining about the changes are whining because its not oh so simple to kill them anymore, not because they are "over powered" or unbalanced. An untanked exhumer is still easy enough to kill. |

Galen Enderstone
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.09.03 16:31:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:the last bit is miners used to be easy to kill, but CCP recently improved the ships to make them a bit tougher and instead of adapting to this change...those crybabies flock to this forum to constantly kick and scream about it because it now will take a bit of effort to kill them..
I'd assume they'd regard it as silly if the Devs created a combat ship that was slow, had a wafer thin hull, next to no shielding but a big cannon on it. They'd probably regard it as absurdly balanced, as it would be too slow to even get close enough to a none AFK player to use that big gun.
Why should a mining craft only be good at ore yield and nothing else then? They're slow and have no weapons, some extra shielding is at least something to make up for being a none combatant.
Abel Merkabah wrote:Most miners (not all) are the poster child for the risk adverse.
They're miners though. We're talking about ships with minimal combat and manoeuvring capability, they're not supposed to get involved in high risk situations. What science fiction scenario has portrayed space mining ships as being combat ready? They usually show them as having an armed escort, or are these great big hulking things that can take some beating while waiting for help.
Seems silly to criticise an industrial craft for not wanting to enter a dangerous scenario, it's not risk adverse to not want to go to a tank fight with a forklift. |

Arec Bardwin
Perkone Caldari State
715
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Posted - 2012.09.03 16:32:00 -
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Galen Enderstone wrote:What is people's obsession with miners? I've only been playing ten days and all I hear about on here is miners. The PVPers are mostly lonely males searching desperately for company, and all the miners make them sad because they mine instead of playing with them. All the ganking and harassment are just primitive methods of getting the attention of the miners, and to eventually become friends with them so the PVPers have someone to play with.
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James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2590
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Posted - 2012.09.03 16:34:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:The barges/exhumers needed more hit points, they were far to low for what the ships cost. Exhumers should have always had high ehp as they are the highest end ships you can get for mining. CCP didn't rebalance the ships because people whined, they rebalanced them because they needed a rebalance. Exhumers have been around since, what, 2006? They just noticed the need for more EHP after Infinite Hulkageddon and all the whining? I think you know better than that. 
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Alice Saki
4446
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Posted - 2012.09.03 16:35:00 -
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TBH miners have the best and tastiest Tears ;) Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Ditra Vorthran
State War Academy Caldari State
98
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Posted - 2012.09.03 18:03:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Exhumers have been around since, what, 2006? They just noticed the need for more EHP after Infinite Hulkageddon and all the whining? I think you know better than that. 
And the game has never changed since 2006, so nothing needed to be done.
That being said, miners need to STFU and HTFU. We got what we wanted. If you die to a gank, you deserve it. "Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus |

Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
1528
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Posted - 2012.09.03 18:51:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:The barges/exhumers needed more hit points, they were far to low for what the ships cost. Exhumers should have always had high ehp as they are the highest end ships you can get for mining. CCP didn't rebalance the ships because people whined, they rebalanced them because they needed a rebalance. Exhumers have been around since, what, 2006? They just noticed the need for more EHP after Infinite Hulkageddon and all the whining? I think you know better than that. 
By that logic, any ship that has issues that hasn't been fixed years after they have been around should never be fixed. So frigates, destroyers and every ship they plan on rebalancing doesn't need a rebalance? Come on now. |

baltec1
Bat Country
2024
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Posted - 2012.09.03 18:58:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:
Welcome to EVE Online, you will learn that a large % of forum users will whine about mining. Few reasons really, because miners can mine with a bit less risk than most other professions in EVE, you can be semi AFK while you mine (depending on what you mine) and the last bit is miners used to be easy to kill, but CCP recently improved the ships to make them a bit tougher and instead of adapting to this change...those crybabies flock to this forum to constantly kick and scream about it because it now will take a bit of effort to kill them.
Miners are still stupid and still do not tank their ships. It still isnt much of a challange to kill them just not profitable. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
4732
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Posted - 2012.09.03 18:58:00 -
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Someone did this, I still had all my cap? Maybe my skills are just too good so I recharge quickly?
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