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Tsual
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Posted - 2011.05.07 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: Avaan Eclipse Plotting the systems in 3D is completely uninteresting. The map posted earlier is the YZ-plane, and the systems have a random distribution in the Y-coordinate. Pictures below.
XY-plane XZ-plane YZ-plane 3D perspective shot
The spatial distribution of the systems outside the YZ-plane is probably a dead end.
Looks a bit like they are distributed in some kind of "tubes". The distribution of stars in the last pictures looks somewhat unnatural.
YZ-plane is not dead it reminds me of dopple-slit distribution.
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Tsual
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Posted - 2011.05.07 15:16:00 -
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Edited by: Tsual on 07/05/2011 15:20:37
Originally by: Avaan Eclipse
Originally by: Tsual Edited by: Tsual on 07/05/2011 12:51:44
Originally by: Avaan Eclipse Plotting the systems in 3D is completely uninteresting. The map posted earlier is the YZ-plane, and the systems have a random distribution in the Y-coordinate. Pictures below.
XY-plane XZ-plane YZ-plane 3D perspective shot
The spatial distribution of the systems outside the YZ-plane is probably a dead end.
Looks a bit like they are distributed in some kind of "tubes". The distribution of stars in the last pictures looks somewhat unnatural.
YZ-plane reminds me of dopple-slit distribution.
They are distributed in tubes and you see them quite clearly in the XZ-plane picture. I meant XZ-plane when I said YZ-plane in the previous post. Apologies for that.
In conclusion what ever created or lead to the creation of the wormhole network, existed or moved on a straight line or is a secondary effect of an effect that happened on or along a straight path.
Looking at another map (I hope this is a correct map) that there are no wormholes at the position of the eve gate. This leaves open to speculate if the wormhole "tunnels" coexist along a path that follows the eve gate?
If this hypothesis is correct, then the path following the spiral might not be the path to the destination yet rather the path through history. Well still this thought could be just a dead end.
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Tsual
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Posted - 2011.05.09 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: Tsual on 09/05/2011 14:54:03
Originally by: Orphan World Edited by: Orphan World on 09/05/2011 08:55:00
Originally by: Avaan Eclipse Plotting the systems in 3D is completely uninteresting. The map posted earlier is the YZ-plane, and the systems have a random distribution in the Y-coordinate. Pictures below.
XY-plane XZ-plane YZ-plane 3D perspective shot
The spatial distribution of the systems outside the YZ-plane is probably a dead end.
I started looking into the importance of some Anoikis terminology, and coupled with the apparent rough tubular shape of W-space regions, this one image stood out to me.
Locus in genetics.
EDIT: also this
The question that opens up form me is why is a space called with the same term as a form of programmed cell death?
On second note has anyone yet tried to find a relation between complex numbers and the locus?
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Tsual
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.05.12 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: Wyke Mossari
I've been thinking about the Loci/System Names, first a recap of what (I think) I know.
On the surface they resemble astronomic EPOCH, however they lack the additional Celestial coordinates data necessary to make them a true observation.
Therefore to be useful for outbound navigation we lack two additional items of information. What is the celestial plane and a reference point for zero(midnight).
My conclusion is that the loci cannot be an outward bound signpost.
The part we have available is the time-stamp element. In conventional astronomy this is the time of the observation (sometimes the first discovery).
The loci appear to be a 24Hour clock which also varies from standard epoc which is a Julian year.
This could represent the time of discovery. However given the long history of New Eden, this seems implausible.
If they are within a spinning spiral galaxy, it could represent their position at some fixed point in time. Given the evidence at hand this seems to be the most plausible explanation.
Something that would also be possible is that the J-locus is related to bifurcation locus and the Julia set, perhaps the wormholes connection between systems or appearance is related to the Julia set and thus chaotic. (The picture on wikipedia is also a spiral)
Finding regular behaviours in a chaotic system will be quite time intensive and I couldn't imagine that a fixed from point a to point b can be mapped within some month, more likely a year (with enough manpower).
First for each wormhole system the appearance of wormholes and their destination would need to be observed over a prolonged time to see if there are cyclical regularities, from this data a possible map can be estimated which would not only depend on space yet also on temporal coordinates.
A four dimensional network ... considering that in a three dimensional net the chance that a path leads to the point of origin is some 30+ % the chance in a four dimensional network is even lower, meaning even with a map navigation is going to depend on a big database and extensive planning. (like in the past seafaring)
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Tsual
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.05.13 09:57:00 -
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Originally by: Cave Lord
@Wyke: I noticed that this wiki article makes no reference to Hours. If the system names are JHHMMSS, what could the "hours" be? Unless it is JMMSSmm (mas or milliarcsecond). Perhaps the hours are for mapping in 3D space? I'm just asking questions here, I have no real understanding of how this stuff works.
This wiki article does, still not overly helpfull as for exact coordinates the locus would have to be:
J123456.789ABC (Using hex numbers)
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Tsual
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.05.23 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Arvash
I got stuck in the C5 loop, and I noticed something.
And here is the positive answer on the question if there are wormhole constellations.
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