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PRO CYLON
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Posted - 2011.05.02 12:51:00 -
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I was looking at 0.0/Low sec. roams or even Fleet engagements with some dual-boxing or that just asking for double trouble ??
Has anyone tried this...thanks
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Metal Icarus
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.05.02 14:18:00 -
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I haven't personally, but I have seen it done before in 0.0. Both characters died.
Don't do it.
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FT Diomedes
Gallente
The Fimbriani
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.05.02 14:39:00 -
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I used to dual box a lot when I did 0.0 fleet fights. I'd often bring two fleet BSs to a fight, or two dreads. I never brought more than one ship on a roaming gang, but for a big fleet battle I had no problems at all dual boxing.
For an old-fashioned POS shoot, it was nice to get both the top damage dealers.
I am used to playing that way because I routinely run 3 and sometimes even 4 accounts at the same time when I do PVE.
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Amda Tori
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.05.02 15:09:00 -
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 Originally by: FT Diomedes
I am used to playing that way because I routinely run 3 and sometimes even 4 accounts at the same time when I do PVE.
Shadow of xXDEATHXx... 3-4 accounts in the same time when you do PVE...
Smells like bots to me.
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Jaik7
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Posted - 2011.05.02 15:19:00 -
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you can attack a supercarrier with a noobship fleet and win if you have enough of them, but you'll never get that many on the same grid because you'll break the internet first.
you can dual box pvp, but i wouldn't reccomend it. you'll need to respond to situations very quickly, making any delay during the switch lose you some kills at the very least, and probably lose you some pods.
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Tom Fulleride
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.05.02 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Amda Tori
Originally by: FT Diomedes
I am used to playing that way because I routinely run 3 and sometimes even 4 accounts at the same time when I do PVE.
Shadow of xXDEATHXx... 3-4 accounts in the same time when you do PVE...
Smells like bots to me.
It depends on the fleet. Dual boxing logistics ships is going to get hairy, but I've seen plenty of players pull off running multiple accounts in engagements. It is more common for the additional accounts to act as scouts, or provide logistics (towers/fuel), but running a sub-capital ship along side a capital character is not a rare occurrence.
In small gangs I've seen just as much dual boxing. A friend of mine will run 3 battleships, a hic, and a scout for lowsec roams when he can't find anyone else to fly with. Running a pair of recons through 0.0 is just as feasible. Just make sure that what you do is structured, and logically sound.
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eXtas
NibbleTek
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Posted - 2011.05.02 15:43:00 -
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most ppl I know use 2-3 acounts in pvp, its allmost rare to just use one :P
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Daneel Trevize
Black Viper Nomads
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Posted - 2011.05.02 16:06:00 -
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Edited by: Daneel Trevize on 02/05/2011 16:10:13
Yep, myself and lot of my corp will regularly have 2 char logged in flying active combat ships. For ganking stuff, proteus + curse/rapier, or arazu + stealth bomber are some fun combos.
If it's a bigger fight and there's not many of us on, we'll do 2xBC or 2xBS each. If there's about as many of us on as the gang we're planning to engage, we might concentrate on flying a T3 well and leave a few recons/covops alts out of the fight but still in space so we know we have something with a probelauncher safe/watching a POS/that things are clear 1 wormhole away, and they can be used to catch things with polarity or help GTFO if our mains need it.
As it's just a habit now to fly a pair, it can make running into just a couple of other people a very fun fight if it escalates rather than all clash heads at once. A few weeks back I had me a proteus and rapier vs loki, zealot, tengu and tackled orca brawl vs Monks of War straddling the static wormhole to their home c6 pulsar. I managed to kill the first 2 before being driven off by the tengu, I started split either side of the hole but as they didn't all arrive at once I was able to switch attention well enough to tackle things as they tried jumping away and also manage my own escape.
It can be a bit awkward, I recall griding down a pirate abaddon+friends caught on a low hole and struggling to juggle getting my alt up and down the series of wormholes to us as well as follow the BS back and forth through the hole, each time only just tackling him before he warped and making me take minutes to give a warp-in for a corpmate in a logi ship as smaller stuff(BC+C iirc) was arriving to try save the BS.
Dualboxing logistics has its pros and cons, you're aware of exactly how many reps are cycling and how staggered they are if you've got enough to keep things alive so you can have some spare and switch them about better, but if the enemy have a bit more dps the delay in getting both sets of reps on the right target plus the cap chain sorted can make it dicey/costly. |
Arazel Chainfire
The Awakened Armada
Infinite Conflux
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Posted - 2011.05.02 18:24:00 -
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I have 3 accts total, and am so used to running 2 at a time that I feel that there isn't enough going on running just 1. I've tried PvP with just one acct, and almost always end up saying to myself "you know, if I just had my alt here, that fight would have gone so much better". That being said, if you aren't already used to actively running two accts, you probably don't want to get started on it in PvP. And unless you are just using one as a scout, I really wouldn't recommend it unless you have 2 monitors, either on one comp or on two separate ones. Also, it is much easier to dualbox big, slowass ships than it is to dualbox more user intensive ships like frigs.
-Arazel
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.05.02 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Amda Tori
Originally by: FT Diomedes
I am used to playing that way because I routinely run 3 and sometimes even 4 accounts at the same time when I do PVE.
Shadow of xXDEATHXx... 3-4 accounts in the same time when you do PVE...
Smells like bots to me.
I would say I'll give you something that smells but you clearly already have it.
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Concubinia Scarlett
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Posted - 2011.05.02 21:24:00 -
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I always used to dual-box when hunting people in lowsec. A neutral, high sec-status covops pilot paired with my outlaw main in a dps cane/phoon in the next system was my preferred combo.
Worked great for probing out missioners and got me no end of kills that I wouldn't have got otherwise. It doesn't work so well now that combat probes are selectable for D-scan though 
For actual pvp I know people that do dual-box but for some reason I get overview errors when running two accounts on two monitors when both ships are on the same grid, so for me it's a no-no.
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Emperor Ryan
Amarr
The Illuminatii
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2011.05.02 22:06:00 -
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To the OP dual boxing is feasible in pvp it is preferable to run 1 account per monitor however some players do not mind running more accounts and alt tabbing through them (or they just have many monitors.
Depending on the type of pvp you might choose to single box or multibox , on roams I personally dual box macherial/cynabal/ Vaga. With a Loki booster/scout/tackle alt or a falcon/logi
The more attention consuming styles of pvp you normal will see single to dual box, whereas the poster above me stated with things like dreads you can easily play with 4+ accounts since they require little attention once in siege,
Check Stront
Enter siege
Lock targets shoot and then maybe cycle a repper here or there.
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Tosser Galore
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Posted - 2011.05.03 08:36:00 -
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Falcon + Vagabond
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FT Diomedes
Gallente
The Fimbriani
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.05.03 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Arazel Chainfire
I have 3 accts total, and am so used to running 2 at a time that I feel that there isn't enough going on running just 1.
This is exactly how it gets for me. My computer comfortably runs three clients simultaneously. As long as they are all in the same system, that's only one local to watch. I just alt tab between them and keep them all shooting. It's the only way that PVE keeps me fully engaged. Missions and belts go by quickly with 3 well-skilled accounts.
Once you get used to managing the accounts in PVE, certain forms of PVP are not too stressful, as long as you still fly what you can afford to lose. I wouldn't try to fly two frigates at once, but a pair of fleet battleships are easy to manage. I haven't gone so far as to train the unprobable gang boosting alt and then pretend I am a "solo" pilot.
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2011.05.03 10:39:00 -
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its a sliding scale i think.
The lighter and faster the ship(s) the harder the dual boxing becomes.
For "totaly insane person" mode your looking at flying two intercepters
For "as easy as stamping on kittens" you will want to go towards two buffer tanked BS or caps.
Average difficulty would be a falcon/prober/logi and your main in a meidum combat ship like a BC.
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Sanguine Belroth
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Posted - 2011.05.03 13:32:00 -
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In my experience it depends on the scenario.
If you a large fleet engagement, and two nice chunky abbadons to take care of. It's not too hard. However if you are trying to pilot two cruisers, while engaging some vagabonds near a gate - this is more than a mortal man such as myself can handle.
I've seen uber geeks commenting that they had "8 accounts" on the titan killmail. Mostly Capitals I guess.
In a recent engagement where I forswore dual boxing cruisers ever again. I was using a Huggin and a blackbird at range with some corpmates, vs several WT's. I was applying webs to a myrmidon, when I noticed that a legion was now almost on top of my Black bird. Had to overload MWD and get jams on the legion. While I saved my Blackbird, my Huggin was pointed and then scrammed.
In another engagement I had a Dominix and hurricane. Vs Neut Domni and Damnation. I overloaded the Canes guns, but as I was using an active tank Domni, the cap management in the face of my oppositions Neuts took my attention, and I burned out the cane's guns early. This ultimately led to both ships dieing. Maybe if you are a twitchy Korean who plays alot of starcraft, but yeah it makes things twice as hard obviously.
In the future I will use a plated BS - good to have a nice reliable brick for your second account. Low maintenance.
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Mithrasith
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Posted - 2011.05.03 17:33:00 -
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It can be done with the following provisions:
1) Have two monitors, one for each account.
2) Make sure the ships and loadouts are complimentary
b/c this one time I tried to do a Logistics + Dictor dual box....wow failcascade...
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Elldranga
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Posted - 2011.05.04 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Mithrasith
It can be done with the following provisions:
1) Have two monitors, one for each account.
2) Make sure the ships and loadouts are complimentary
b/c this one time I tried to do a Logistics + Dictor dual box....wow failcascade...
Also.... Pro-tip
Don't jump a gate with 2 ships without propulsion mods expecting to dual rep.
The fail was strong with that one. ><
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Chereadenine Zakalwe
Caldari
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.04 08:09:00 -
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Edited by: Chereadenine Zakalwe on 04/05/2011 08:09:38
Not sure about these days..
I remember me and a couple of corpies new to 0.0 fighting a dual boxer(he was alt tabbing between windows) years ago..
We were pretty new to the game and hence got burnt by his curse/domi combo( the curse was a beast those days and the domi had 10 drones)
Im guessing if you had good reactions and the right ships it could be doable..
I have tried it (roaming)with a force recon and HAC ages ago with some reasonable results.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.05.04 08:20:00 -
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It is not only possible but almost mandatory these days, the second box doesn't have to be 'active' -> T3 booster.
'tis a sad state of affairs in my opinion, but since CCP makes money on alt use they are naturally loathe to limit their use through mechanics.
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slightly sillydude
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Posted - 2011.05.04 14:20:00 -
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I do it pretty much exclusively. Not with gangs though, just me and my alt. Alt is usually some kind of tackle or remote sensor booster, main brings the pain. Its a hassle to be sure but its nearly impossible to catch and kill someone (who doesn't want to be caught and killed at any rate) with only one character.
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Guilliman R
Gallente
Northstar Cabal
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.05.05 04:46:00 -
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Dual boxing two thanies is my game. It works well as I'm in perfect control of remote RR and cap, as well as targeting and general tactics. (Hello Squad warp!)
+ works well with ratting, 2x thanies **** sanctums. Each has 2 TP's so even my fighters eat frigates in two volleys.
They're pretty cheap too.
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Ghost Nightmare
Red Federation
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Posted - 2011.05.05 15:04:00 -
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Dual box for pvp is fine, so long as you limit the alts to support roles.
I.e. on station with 1-3 guardian/basi alts works quite well they aren't the most effective logis ever, but they get the job done.
Just lock em up and tap f1-f4
(really need at least dual screens to pull that off)
Cheap I know..
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crimson fire
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Posted - 2011.05.06 10:14:00 -
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Originally by: PRO CYLON
I was looking at 0.0/Low sec. roams or even Fleet engagements with some dual-boxing or that just asking for double trouble ??
Has anyone tried this...thanks
imo screensize is a major factor. 27" is nice for dualbox
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