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Posted - 2011.05.03 15:47:00 -
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Violent storms and tornadoes in the south-Midwestern and eastern United States have left many homeless and in desperate need. The EVE Online community have asked that for a PLEX drive to aid those suffering in the affected areas. Full details can be seen in CCP Fallout's Blog.
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Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2011.05.03 16:09:00 -
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GIGAR
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Posted - 2011.05.03 16:29:00 -
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How about a "PLEX for employees"?
Yeknow, so CCP can work more on the game we pay for? 
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Kristan Nvar
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Posted - 2011.05.03 16:30:00 -
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The home county/town area my late parents grew up in was totaly wiped out in this storms in Northern Alabama.
The damage is just hard to describe the video's pictures do not do it justice.
Finally was able to go down yesterday I didn't recognize the town i spent most of my summers with my grandparents. Its totally gone. Any help will be greatly appreciated
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Ranger 1
Amarr
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.05.03 16:38:00 -
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 Originally by: GIGAR
How about a "PLEX for employees"?
Yeknow, so CCP can work more on the game we pay for?
Wow, tasteless AND pointless in the same post. Very efficient.
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Bad Kitty Inc.
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Posted - 2011.05.03 16:44:00 -
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Cheers for this CCP o/\o
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GIGAR
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Posted - 2011.05.03 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1
Originally by: GIGAR
How about a "PLEX for employees"?
Yeknow, so CCP can work more on the game we pay for?
Wow, tasteless AND pointless in the same post. Very efficient.
I'm sorry, I just don't see the point of giving money to the US.
I DO feel for the people implicated, but there's no way I could understand what they're going trough.
However, besides rescue personal and emergency aid (shelter, food, water, etc.), shouldn't the US be capable of handling most of the cleanup procedure by themselves?
I mean, if the WORLD LARGEST ECONOMY need money from outside to recover, something seems off, IMO.
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Unimatrix 0.1
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Posted - 2011.05.03 16:47:00 -
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World's largest economy? 
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GIGAR
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Posted - 2011.05.03 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: enterprisePSI
World's largest economy?
Hint hint 
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Posted - 2011.05.03 17:04:00 -
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Trolling comments removed. This is not a discussion of the wealth of individual nations. People are homeless and in desperate need so please donate if you feel this is a cause you would like to support or do not. That is your choice.
Off topic, trolling and flaming replies will be dealt with harshly.
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Ranger 1
Amarr
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.05.03 17:06:00 -
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Edited by: Ranger 1 on 03/05/2011 17:07:21
NM, already dealt with.
Cheers!
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Gallic IronBorne
Caldari
Pack Mule Courier Service
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Posted - 2011.05.03 17:10:00 -
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Thank you EVE for helping American's in need ,,,,god nows we do it enough for every other country in the world and get **** on for it.
Once more thank you
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Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.05.03 18:14:00 -
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Thanks.
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Steve Thomas
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Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.05.03 18:21:00 -
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as for the relitive welth of a country, that by and large is not relivant, the Red cross will respond to any event anywhere. And that is not cheep.
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Zenst
Hall Of Flame
Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2011.05.03 18:25:00 -
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Whilst I fully support this drive to help well deserving people of merica I'm again at somewhat of enpass as to why you constantly pick charities that have high operating costs and as such only yeild a small minute percentage of donations to the intended actions. IE American red Cross operate at around 97% meaning only 3% of donations get to those that realy need it, indeed the director of this organisation earns half a million a year and I for one will not support such ineffecient so called charities.
Please please please find a charity were the donation gets used to do good and not swallowed up in silly overheads.
Is there anybody in America who could put forward a better charity that will do more, I know the church's over there are more suited to helping those in need, can somebody suggest one so that CCP can listern and adress this oversight.
If anybody doubts what I'm saying then please look into it yourselfs, its a education you realy will be supprised at as it's true daly to say :(.
So please CCP pick a charity that operates for the cause and not as some sudo company to pay directors silly money like the American Red Cross does About The American Red Cross - FACTS. Once you know the facts you will see that the whole charity area is poluted with such operational systems and in many cases are just glorified employment companies first and actualy do good lastly.
I'm sure there must be some eve players that know somebody effected, If we were to donate to them then we would achieve more for the money and actualy see results, I know everybody who wants to give would rather that was the case.
lets help these people and not just send money and assume our work is done, lets find a way to release the money were it does the most effect and for that I'd say even any church would be better and I'm a athiest, but I know they do alot more in such times than any commercial charity ever does and they operate as a charity and not as some sudo company were directors and secretarys get paid bank level wages and bonus's.
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Steve Thomas
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Posted - 2011.05.03 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Steve Thomas on 03/05/2011 18:39:23
Edited by: Steve Thomas on 03/05/2011 18:38:45
um dude, program expenses are everthing from the food kitchens, shelters and so on.
Administrative expenses Incudes everything from salaries and office space to the power bill.
In other words, your own total lack of comprehension just made you look. . . well. . .
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Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2011.05.03 18:44:00 -
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I agree, program expencies, as defined in that same web site:
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Program Expenses: This measure reflects what percent of its total budget a charity spends on the programs and services it exists to deliver."
And its 91.8% of the total.
And that $0.5 million salary is for someone administering a $3 billion a year organization, so its like 0.016%. With that much money being handled, Id want a good high skilled person too.
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demonfurbie
Minmatar
Drunken Wookies
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.05.03 18:53:00 -
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yea its bad here
all the buildings are gone ... it even got the best buy (geek tears)
fyi you know you can run a laptop off a car battery and hook it up to a cell phone and play eve ...
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Ranger 1
Amarr
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.05.03 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Zenst
Whilst I fully support this drive to help well deserving people of merica I'm again at somewhat of enpass as to why you constantly pick charities that have high operating costs and as such only yeild a small minute percentage of donations to the intended actions. IE American red Cross operate at around 97% meaning only 3% of donations get to those that realy need it, indeed the director of this organisation earns half a million a year and I for one will not support such ineffecient so called charities.
Please please please find a charity were the donation gets used to do good and not swallowed up in silly overheads.
Is there anybody in America who could put forward a better charity that will do more, I know the church's over there are more suited to helping those in need, can somebody suggest one so that CCP can listern and adress this oversight.
If anybody doubts what I'm saying then please look into it yourselfs, its a education you realy will be supprised at as it's true daly to say :(.
So please CCP pick a charity that operates for the cause and not as some sudo company to pay directors silly money like the American Red Cross does About The American Red Cross - FACTS. Once you know the facts you will see that the whole charity area is poluted with such operational systems and in many cases are just glorified employment companies first and actualy do good lastly.
I'm sure there must be some eve players that know somebody effected, If we were to donate to them then we would achieve more for the money and actualy see results, I know everybody who wants to give would rather that was the case.
lets help these people and not just send money and assume our work is done, lets find a way to release the money were it does the most effect and for that I'd say even any church would be better and I'm a athiest, but I know they do alot more in such times than any commercial charity ever does and they operate as a charity and not as some sudo company were directors and secretarys get paid bank level wages and bonus's.
I believe you just made a compelling argument in favor of the Red Cross.
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Posted - 2011.05.03 18:54:00 -
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**** em
they spend there money on war instead of helping there own
so **** em.
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Steve Thomas
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.05.03 18:58:00 -
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Incidentaly from that very websight the top recomended charitys for the charity relife in order
American Red Cross
Total Revenue $3,301,803,766
Name/Title/Compensation/% of Expenses
Gail J. McGovern/President, CEO /$446,867/ 0.01%
Other Salaries of Note
James Hrouda/EVP, Biomedical Services /$566,629/ 0.01%
Mary Elcano/General Counsel, Secretary /$480,880/ 0.01%
Direct Relief InternationalTotal Revenue$338,439,221 Thomas E. Tighe President, CEO $247,600 0.09%(note that this as a % of net revinue is a lot more than what the top 3 salaries at the ARC make COMBINED. . .
Heart to Heart International
Total Revenue$96,251,183
Jon North
Chief Executive Officer $89,427 0.10%
Matthew 25: Ministries
Rev.* Wendell E. Mettey President $68,362 0.06%
* some would have a specific objection to donating to a religion based ministry without knowing more about that particular ministers belifes
Samaritan's Purse
Total Revenue $310,859,899
W. Franklin Graham III President, CEO $473,440 0.15%
yet thoes are bascialy the "top references" for this disaster on there own page Found here
http://blog.charitynavigator.org/2011/04/us-tornado-disaster-relief.html
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Steve Thomas
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Posted - 2011.05.03 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: demonfurbie
yea its bad here
all the buildings are gone ... it even got the best buy (geek tears)
fyi you know you can run a laptop off a car battery and hook it up to a cell phone and play eve ...
yep
Found that out durring Ike.
Also found out just how bad MREs are. I dont think I want to **** off anyone whos given a gun and thoes to eat.
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Ashlar Maidstone
Amarr
Intergalactic Combined Technologies
The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2011.05.03 19:51:00 -
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THANK YOU CCP and the EVE Community!!
My area here in East Tennessee was hit really bad as well but we are in good hands here as relief efforts have been undergoing since last week. Please all let's help those in the hardest hit areas of Alabama and in the region.
Thank you!!
Ashlar Maidstone
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Gavjack Bunk
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.05.03 19:56:00 -
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Their God really does take Tuesdays off.
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AusTerror
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Posted - 2011.05.03 23:47:00 -
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Not trolling.
But what about Australia, Japan and New Zealand?
Japan I'm sure could use some donations.
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Steve Thomas
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.05.03 23:57:00 -
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Edited by: Steve Thomas on 03/05/2011 23:57:49
Originally by: AusTerror
Not trolling.
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no because your trolling fell flat on its face
Quote:
PLEX for Good is an on-going charitable program initiated by the players of EVE Online. Past drives have assisted the victims of the Haiti earthquake and excessive flooding in Pakistan. Most recently, EVE Online players held a drive to assist those affected by the earthquake and tsunami that struck Japan. To date, EVE Online players have donated over $107,000 USD (over 6100 PLEX) to those in need via this program, with almost $155,000 USD being donated by EVE Online players to charity since 2004.
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Posted - 2011.05.04 00:27:00 -
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As someone that has donated PLEXes in the past for at least 2 of these drives, I have a question.
Is CCP going to match these donations?
Currently, CCP is gaining PR and possibly tax breaks on this without actually "paying" anything. Basically money is funneled through the PLEX system, nothing more.
Generally, it is customary for the corporation that allows customers to donate to a cause to match donations.
I hope this is viewed as a challenge for CCP to match their customer's donations and not as some troll.
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Evilan Altana
Moriar Libera
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Posted - 2011.05.04 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: POS Trader
As someone that has donated PLEXes in the past for at least 2 of these drives, I have a question.
Is CCP going to match these donations?
Currently, CCP is gaining PR and possibly tax breaks on this without actually "paying" anything. Basically money is funneled through the PLEX system, nothing more.
Generally, it is customary for the corporation that allows customers to donate to a cause to match donations.
I hope this is viewed as a challenge for CCP to match their customer's donations and not as some troll.
Having already donated to at least 2 of these drives I would have expected a better understanding of what CCP does regarding the donations.
The cash value of donated PLEX is given in it entirety to whatever organization it is being donated to on behalf of the players.
CCP can not claim this as a tax write off because of who they say it is from, they have stated this previously, they also absorb all additional costs of organization and any kind of additional fees/tariffs/taxes.
They do receive PR.
As far as corporations matching donations, they tend to do it because the extra cost will be offset by the tax break they receive for their direct contribution and the additional claim they can make on their customers donations.
That is not to say this is always the main goal of the corporation, but for your every day corporate sponsored donations the tax break is the main incentive.
CCP receives none of that incentive and incurs a cost, which could be very small for all I know.
All that said however I would like to bring up the age old:
Any PLEX that have been destroyed should also be donated.
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Essanym
Level Eight Technical Exterminations
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Posted - 2011.05.04 05:48:00 -
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As a resident of North Alabama, I would like to thank CCP for doing this. Whether it be to the right or wrong charity... at least CCP cares enough about us southerners to put something together and help those in need. I personally didn't lose anything to the tornado except some food that couldn't be refrigerated. We didn't have power on at my house until 10pm last night, and some people still don't have power... and then there are those that don't have a house and I really feel bad for those families. Regarding the Red Cross, though my family did not require the resources of the Red Cross to get through this unfortunate event, I have needed them in the past. I was living in south Mississippi during Hurricane Katrina and the Red Cross kept us fed in addition to doing so many more helpful things for others in town. It's not all about who gets xxx amount of money for damages incurred... sometimes it's about a warm meal, a box of food, a blanket, clothing, someone to help you connect to loved ones, etc so as far as I'm concerned, CCP picked a good charity to donate to.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2011.05.04 06:24:00 -
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CCP isn't gaining any tax reduction or other financial profit from those charity drives, they said that already several times.
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Svenjabi Xiang
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.05.04 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: Svenjabi Xiang on 04/05/2011 12:04:12
From another of those whom live in the affected area of Alabama, I sincerely thank you for this effort. The damage was dreadful and my deepest sympathies to those whom have suffered loss. For individuals most severely affected though, this effort will help, and for that, again, I sincerely thank CCP Fallout, CCP Games, and the Eve-Online community.
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Squanto
Amarr
BOAE INC
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Posted - 2011.05.04 12:36:00 -
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Edited by: Squanto on 04/05/2011 12:41:26
This is a good thing CCP, keep it up. My home and car was hit in Raleigh, NC. This house is the house directly across the street from me:House Across Street
The storm did about 80-100K of damage to my home and it picked up my car out of my driveway, split a telephone pole into 2 pieces and tossed it into my neighbor's garage. Thankfully, nobody on our street was hurt and 5 houses were destroyed. Oddly enough no other street in our development was damaged.
This is my car, picture #77:
My Car pic #77 in My neighbor's Driveway
These are images of the homes on my street: Serendipity Drive
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Mike deVoid
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita
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Posted - 2011.05.04 12:51:00 -
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I have a question that isn't answered in the FAQ that was linked: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/PLEX_for_GOOD
Many countries around the world give companies tax relief for charitable donations. The UK rules (for example) though pretty modest - at most ś500 deduction from gross profits before calculating tax.
Does Iceland give similar tax relief for charitable donations, do the PLEX for GOOD donation count under such a scheme and does CCP use them these donations for tax relief (no matter how small)?
Cheers!
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SamuelK
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Posted - 2011.05.04 14:38:00 -
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Wow.. I'm really thankful for CCP doing this. Thank you guys so much. A city just 30 miles south of where I live has been totally wiped off the map by the Mississippi River and over 3000 people have been displaced by it. The whole of the midwest and southern part of the US has been inundated by rain non-stop for the last three weeks. In my area alone near 18 inches of rain and we got it mild. Thank the maker that no tornado's have struck near here. Our infrastructure is taxed as it is, and that would only make a bad situation hell on Earth. My prayers go out to the people in the hardest hit area's and to all those effected by these storms. I live in the southern part of Illinois and have been spending a bit more time in my basement then I care for ducking from tornado warnings. Thank you CCP, and thank you gamers of EVE Online. This one brings it home for me.
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Posted - 2011.05.04 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Mike deVoid
I have a question that isn't answered in the FAQ that was linked: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/PLEX_for_GOOD
Many countries around the world give companies tax relief for charitable donations. The UK rules (for example) though pretty modest - at most ś500 deduction from gross profits before calculating tax.
Does Iceland give similar tax relief for charitable donations, do the PLEX for GOOD donation count under such a scheme and does CCP use them these donations for tax relief (no matter how small)?
Cheers!
No. The donation is literally made in the name of the EVE Online Community and not CCP.
Fallout
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Posted - 2011.05.05 16:02:00 -
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Edited by: Wolf Spyder on 05/05/2011 16:42:43
Regarding a comment about scam warnings from CCP found in the firs comment.. I can accept that scams are apart of the EVE experience as it is designed to mimic a futuristic life. But in the case of a player scamming to get isk that was to be sent to do r/l good in disaster zones across the planet. That player that is found to be doing the scam should be forever banned from this game. Black list their billing address so that he cant simply create a new character and also ban their permanent ip address. That kind of person should not be welcomed in this game and should be viewed as a real life crime. Given the gravity of the impact that would be caused by such a scam. Severe penalties should be put in place to deter such a despicable act. As any given time any one of us could find ourselves being placed in similar disaster situation.
Having said that. How does CCP convert the isk in to r/l funds? is it a 1 to 1 ratio? This is an outstanding program that has been around for a while. Not everyone can afford to send actual money but anyone in eve can afford isk. A modification in to the minimum amount donated should be created to allow for the newest of players to participate if they choose.
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Davon Kastire
Caldari
Hit it n' Quit it
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Posted - 2011.05.05 20:41:00 -
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Edited by: Davon Kastire on 05/05/2011 20:40:58
As an Oklahoman, I'd like to thank anyone who pitches in. I may not have lost anything in this outbreak, but I'm very concerned about my fellow Americans in Oklahoma and the neighboring states who lost everything from houses to loved ones.
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Menian Goneld
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2011.05.09 18:50:00 -
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I know it helps the people in need, but I seriously need ISK to keep playing this game. 400mill already and it has just been announced! There is no way I can continue playing if prices go any higher. WHYYYYY CCP! WHYYYYY! Japan plexing, now midwestern plexing!!!! Double jump for the kill!
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Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.05.11 09:33:00 -
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Edited by: Ciar Meara on 11/05/2011 09:33:07
Originally by: Menian Goneld
I know it helps the people in need, but I seriously need ISK to keep playing this game. 400mill already and it has just been announced! There is no way I can continue playing if prices go any higher. WHYYYYY CCP! WHYYYYY! Japan plexing, now midwestern plexing!!!! Double jump for the kill!
If this isn't an incentive to donate more plexes I don't know what is.
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.05.11 13:55:00 -
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As an American I sorta expected a low turn out (only 4 plexes so far). I mean this isnt hati quake or japan triaster or the kosovo massacer is probably why there is such a low turn out. The floods and storms did wipe out a few places off the map but thats a few hundred people not the thousands upon thosands of people who are still without homes in japan. But if you want the know the worst of the damage its the immense ecnomic blockage the flood is going to cause, right now we have freigheters getting told they're going to to be sitting around for MONTHS becuase the mississippi river is on hiatus. Entire highways are preventing the cargo trucks from making thier timely deliveries and with american gas prices the way they are going the long way around isnt ideal for business (though it sure heck beats paying 8 USD in australia for the same gallon  back when it was 2.10$ in the states).
These are things that red cross are not going to be able to fix and it will most likely come at the cost of that companies, insurance, customers, and taxpayers, this disaster is a drop in the bucket in terms of katrina, andrew or the 9/11.
There' isnt even any requests locally from red cross for any help like blood dontations or dontations in general, I do know there are some local policial flarings popping about raiding the rainy day fund up but thats probably the only thing going on aside from our own releif efforts from good neighbors and the FEMA disaster relife organization.
I would like to say that the thought does count ccp, but I feel this effort is almost wasted. At least red cross will put it to good use somewhere else if it comes down to it at least so that in itself is nobel. For all you pod pilots out there thank you but I think you're better off waiting for the next disaster, until then you could donate blood to your local blood drives, that stuff is only good for 3 months in the fidge and the demand for blood is constanst disaster or not and it may save a life in the end espeically if a disaster where to happen and then it wipes out supply.
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Nova Fox
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.12 02:39:00 -
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Would like to state for those not in the states the worst of the disaster is yet to come, one of our major rivers is about to swell up to the point of washing away entire towns and we're getting even more rain incomming.
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