I, for one, also share your concern.

Damn, I'm really envy of those with main obstacle for PvP (aside from RL, ofc) being mere isk.

I'm personally driven off by crappy game mechanics and proliferation of boring cheap-ass ammo-wasters like Drakes etc.

The thing is, both plated blasterboats and lonely victims are utterly boring. There's literally no room to get mental challenge out of there.

The thing is, both plated blasterboats and lonely victims are utterly boring. There's literally no room to get mental challenge out of there.

But I agree ASB's have created a stale pvp environment to a certain extent.

There's so much to say

For the record, I think the only legitimate complaint here is the cost of a fit ship. Make hulls cheaper and module price more dynamic (with t2 being much more expensive).

How can anyone sane claim overtank to be inspiring for solo when you have to fight against it yourself, too? The thing is, small-scale PvP by definition means fighting against superior numbers and the only thing allowing to do that is gaining a temporal advantage here or there, which mostly comes from the maneuver. This temporal advantage may or may not be enough to get things done (that is: score kills), but in general it should be quite obvious that heavier tank means lesser opportunities to gain kills. Put it to the extreme and imagine ships in EVE having 10x EHP of today and also burst-tanking ten times as much - it would be just plain tedious, scoring just two kills in succession becomes pretty much a heroic deed.

I'm far from saying solo is dead and so on, but fitting an OP crap and fighting against the same crap to kill may be one or two ships at most when previously under the same conditions you could kill 5 is simply not what I would call progress or fun.

I do agree with EVE needing more frequent radical balance shifts, though. But still, these shifts should not consist of CCP introducing something so absurdly OP as ASB of today. An opposite example is The Great Nano Fix - instead of creating a single FOTM they created a diversion of ships, setups and tactics while previosly it was just nano or nothing. I was flying my Domi-web Abso and occasionally killing those nano abominations while succumbing pretty much to none, but that wasn't all that fun. It's more or less the same today.

But when almost every single soloer flying around today is fitting asb's on everything, even stuff that is usually armor buffer tanked, simply because its better than everything. Well that to me is an example of a stale environment.

This, this, many times this.

Don't get me wrong Zach. I don't mean to say that EVE was fantastic before and now ASB's have ruined everything. Restricted to 1 asb module per ship I think the module is in many ways an exciting, dynamic module that adds a lot of flavour.

But when almost every single soloer flying around today is fitting asb's on everything, even stuff that is usually armor buffer tanked, simply because its better than everything. Well that to me is an example of a stale environment.

This thread delivers : /.... I been saving fraps up and waiting till I have enough RL isk to get Adobe (I seriously don't want to make another vid using windows movie maker : /). If anyone has any suggestions of a free semi easy to use video editor that has the functionality of Adobe, please suggest away.

Too much tank and isk involved with big ships.

Edit: forgot about ECM drones, and they are stupidly OP, and should be removed from the game; not nerfed, but removed completely.

Edit: forgot about ECM drones, and they are stupidly OP, and should be removed from the game; not nerfed, but removed completely.

I would encourage anyone interested in this topic to listen to my podcast episode that I'll be posting on monday. We got to interview CCP Fozzie and he told us about an enormous amount of balance related topics.

Did you ask him what happened to highslot target painters? I just want torps to be good again

I didn't ask him about high slot target painters but I did tell him I want torps to be good again. He didn't have any immediate changes to talk about related to it, but he said yitterbium really wants them to be good for pvp also.

This thread delivers : /.... I been saving fraps up and waiting till I have enough RL isk to get Adobe (I seriously don't want to make another vid using windows movie maker : /). If anyone has any suggestions of a free semi easy to use video editor that has the functionality of Adobe, please suggest away.

I didn't ask him about high slot target painters but I did tell him I want torps to be good again. He didn't have any immediate changes to talk about related to it, but he said yitterbium really wants them to be good for pvp also.

I'd also like to add to the alliance level idea for a larger than titan ship but sorta same concept.

Create a ship that is worth 2 trillion isk . It's role would be this.

Stargate Portal - It can open a gate from venal to stain , Syndicate to Great wildlands * that sorta of idea / effect * . It can only be used Once per day. and fueled by planetary interactions , But make it as easy to kill as a carrier or freighter.

If you want full fledged alliance level PvP , that is it. Opening a backdoor to an enemies home and infiltrate. the possibilities are endless.

You want to eliminate Supers easier..... all I have to say is this.

When a super logs, it doesnt dissapear. It sits in the POS, or deep safe not moving. Whta this means is that supers are never really safe. They will either have to defend pos's like a mofo or move pos's everytime they are reinforced. Death to all capitals!

I don't think ECM drones are OP in general, they're just OP when solo as indeed are most forms of EWar. ASB's have been a breath of fresh air for SOLO PvP I don't think they're perfect but they are unbalanced when matched against armour where no such cap free burst tanking is available.

GEE WHAT GAME DOES THAT SOUND LIKE

The problem with EHP being to high reminds me of Planetside. All the clueless idiots in that game whined constantly about dying too often, so instead of just suggesting they position themselves better and be more cautious, SOE hammered down the tallest nail that happened to be sticking up at the time a big patch came around. The game went from allowing a skilled sniper to headshot anything but a MAX suit, or an assault rifle being able to melt someone in a few bursts, to the only thing being able to kill infantry in one shot being a direct hit from the main gun of a battle tank. Planetside went through the opposite of power creep, where every weapon just became completely toothless over time.

Consequently the game rewarded skill and positioning less and less, made combat into a straight-up DPS competition, and favoured raw numbers over coordination. It just became mindless and boring and made doing anything as a single player or small squad incredibly frustrating, since you just didn't have the damage to execute hit-and-run tactics unless your opponent is literally asleep.

GEE WHAT GAME DOES THAT SOUND LIKE

*Best poast in this fred*

They are now testing ASB changes on Duality, which are there to somewhat restore our ability to actually kill stuff rather than just shoot it:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155474&find=unread

That's probably the best stuff I've seen in months of checking out CCP's balancing activity, surpassing even missile changes. Yeah, gotta get back to proper PvP!