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Kalle Demos
Amarr
Helix Protocol
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Posted - 2011.05.07 18:06:00 -
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Edited by: Kalle Demos on 07/05/2011 18:09:06
During a conversation about the world in general, she confessed that she gets most of her news from FOX News, Al Jareeza and Youtube.
Now I could go in detail on what she 'believes' but I think it is pretty obvious, after years of hearing crazy conspiracies that sound like they were written by EN24, it now all makes sense.
Oh and I dont watch TV or any media related stuff AT ALL, there is enough propaganda and bull**** in EVE to keep me entertained.
Oh and the conversation started with Nutella and got derailed to the Illuminati WTF?! Apparently I am blinded by mind controlling food 
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Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
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Posted - 2011.05.07 18:22:00 -
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Edited by: Vogue on 07/05/2011 18:22:21
I would rather watch Dennis Miller on Fox News than the BBC parrot Jeremy Paxman.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2011.05.07 18:30:00 -
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I'm not sure I see the problem. What I'm getting at is that what real difference does it make if your sister retains her current world view compared to converting her to your way of thinking?
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Citizen20100211442
Minmatar
Carebear Evolution
Concordiat Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.07 18:39:00 -
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First step to the freedom - smash your TV
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2011.05.07 18:56:00 -
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The key to news is to not look directly at it or you'll turn to stone of apathy.
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Kalle Demos
Amarr
Helix Protocol
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Posted - 2011.05.07 19:22:00 -
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 Originally by: Citizen20100211442
First step to the freedom - smash your TV
So true
Also DSQ - I think I made it perfectly clear that she was trying to do the converting ;)
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ceaon
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Posted - 2011.05.07 19:42:00 -
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OP why do your have a TV on kitchen ? TV are not good tools to make food, TV should be only a source of recipes nothing more, but i suggest that you should use google recipes service and print the recipe on paper for her
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
If the whole country is corrupted then it's no longer corruption but culture.
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Talas Dir
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.05.07 19:54:00 -
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bbc, fox and aljazeera just bend the truth to fit whatever agenda they want. i get my news from the sun magazine.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2011.05.07 19:59:00 -
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Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 07/05/2011 20:06:01
Originally by: Kalle Demos
Originally by: Citizen20100211442
First step to the freedom - smash your TV
So true
Also DSQ - I think I made it perfectly clear that she was trying to do the converting ;)
So there really is no issue then? At least your sister watches multiple news sources, so she will be exposed to opposing views on things and has to make up her own mind about where the truth lies. You can handle her "converting" efforts by either agreeing with her and her reasons or saying that you don't find her views convincing for reasons a,b and c. After that she will know the issues aren't worth discussing further until some new "evidence" is presented by either side or she will leave the issue be, since it doesn't really matter what you believe. She could have just wanted to tell her own view on things and learn how you thought about them. That happens all the time.
I know this nice well educated girl who doesn't believe humans have ever been to the moon and that the moon landings have been faked. Her reasons for believing it are unsuprisingly a bit vague, but basicly she believes if it had actually happened so long ago, going there would be a relatively constant thing by now and we would also have gone to other planets already.
I've told her the reasons why we launch robots and probes to explore space instead of putting more people on the moon, and why sending people to other planets isn't quite as easy as putting them on the moon, but it doesn't matter to her in the slightest. It lead to a few discussions about the issue where we voiced our views and discussed about the reasoning behind them and then we were done with it and the issue hasn't been brought up since in our discussions. So unless your sister advocates direct violence against other human beings, I don't see any problem with what you're saying.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2011.05.07 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: ceaon
OP why do your have a TV on kitchen ? TV are not good tools to make food, TV should be only a source of recipes nothing more, but i suggest that you should use google recipes service and print the recipe on paper for her
Hey, look at that, I made someones signature! 
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Tullaris Iceblade
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Posted - 2011.05.07 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
I'm not sure I see the problem. What I'm getting at is that what real difference does it make if your sister retains her current world view compared to converting her to your way of thinking?
You don't see a problem with a member of your family existing in a constant state of paranoia and fear because she believes in the ridiculous conspiracies promoted by 'news' organisations like Fox?
If my sister believed that we were controlled by chemicals in our food I'd be worried too.
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ceaon
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Posted - 2011.05.07 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Hey, look at that, I made someones signature!
maybe you made history whit that line, btw did you remember the thread ? :d
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
If the whole country is corrupted then it's no longer corruption but culture.
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IoWalker
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Posted - 2011.05.07 20:43:00 -
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is Nutella good? it looks really gross in the jar but i've been told it's really good, but too afraid to try it.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2011.05.07 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: ceaon
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Hey, look at that, I made someones signature!
maybe you made history whit that line, btw did you remember the thread ? :d
Nah man, dropping oneliners is what I do, I often stun myself with them in retrospect.
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baltec1
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Posted - 2011.05.07 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: Talas Dir
bbc, fox and aljazeera just bend the truth to fit whatever agenda they want. i get my news from the sun magazine.
The sun. Like fox news, only more harmfull to trees!
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Ak'athra J'ador
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2011.05.07 21:44:00 -
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Do what you do in eve, bait
Start with glen back and continue baiting until you bait her into something really really stupid. Then you can start arguing and win easily...
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Sader Rykane
Amarr
Midnight Sentinels
Midnight Space Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.05.07 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: Sader Rykane on 07/05/2011 22:05:07
Al Jazeera in many cases is actually fairly reputable, I haven't read anything ridiculously outlandish on it anyway, at least not to the level of Fox News.
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Jon Taggart
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.05.07 22:16:00 -
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You confess that you refuse to watch any news or media source, but then you criticize your sister for staying informed in some modest amount? Not sure who to side with here.
Despite her "outlandish" opinions on whatever you two were discussing, at least she's pulling information from multiple sources. Something many kids of the young generation are unable to do, much less stay informed via a single source of information that wasn't spoon fed to them by Jon Stuart or Colbert.
The people who blindly watch Zeitgeist or anything similar are even more annoying than those devoted to watching just Fox News.
I consider myself a somewhat frequent viewer of Fox News, but mainly the news shows themselves and not Beck, O'Reilly or the others, and I rarely see news stories about conspiracies and such either. Who knows though. I'd just change the channel if I did though.
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ceaon
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Posted - 2011.05.07 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: ceaon
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Hey, look at that, I made someones signature!
maybe you made history whit that line, btw did you remember the thread ? :d
Nah man, dropping oneliners is what I do, I often stun myself with them in retrospect.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1424790
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
If the whole country is corrupted then it's no longer corruption but culture.
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.05.07 23:00:00 -
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Edited by: Jada Maroo on 07/05/2011 23:01:53
Fox News is a great network - if not for Fox, President Obama would still be keeping company with the likes of Jeremiah Wright, Van Jones, Bill Ayers, and a host of other radicals and communists he's surrounded himself with throughout his politcal life. And it's doubtful you'd have heard much of anything about those people if not for the work of Fox (although, Hillary Clinton tried during her campaign, to her credit!). Also, you'd have heard nothing at all about Eric Holder's refusal to prosecute the Black Panthers for voter intimidation because the victims were white.
Now, if your sister watched MSNBC, or got most of her news from the Daily Show, then you'd have something to worry about.
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.05.07 23:06:00 -
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Edited by: Jada Maroo on 07/05/2011 23:07:20
Originally by: Jon Taggart
I consider myself a somewhat frequent viewer of Fox News, but mainly the news shows themselves and not Beck, O'Reilly or the others, and I rarely see news stories about conspiracies and such either. Who knows though. I'd just change the channel if I did though.
You know what my biggest problem with Glenn Beck is? He's capable of being a lot more entertaining than he is on his show. And this is a big reason why they didn't renew his contract. You can only stand in front of a chalk board with arrows and circles around the word "SOCIALIST" for so long before viewers start losing interest. Doesn't matter if what he's saying is true - and quite a lot of it is - it has become repetitive. That doesn't make for good TV.
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ceaon
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Posted - 2011.05.07 23:53:00 -
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here are my mains source of news
1 http://www.meneame.net/
2 http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/programa/canal-24-horas/3341/
3 http://www.antena3.ro/
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
If the whole country is corrupted then it's no longer corruption but culture.
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Heroltior Ghedonia
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Posted - 2011.05.08 06:06:00 -
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Whats wrong with this site then?
The Onion
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.05.08 06:16:00 -
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Colbert and Stewart 
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Jno Aubrey
Galactic Patrol
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Posted - 2011.05.08 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Kalle Demos
Edited by: Kalle Demos on 07/05/2011 18:09:06
During a conversation about the world in general, she confessed that she gets most of her news from FOX News, Al Jareeza and Youtube.
Now I could go in detail on what she 'believes' but I think it is pretty obvious, after years of hearing crazy conspiracies that sound like they were written by EN24, it now all makes sense.
Oh and I dont watch TV or any media related stuff AT ALL, there is enough propaganda and bull**** in EVE to keep me entertained.
Oh and the conversation started with Nutella and got derailed to the Illuminati WTF?! Apparently I am blinded by mind controlling food
Looks like your sister is the well-informed one in the family. Maybe she'll get you a tin-foil hat for your next birthday!
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.08 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Citizen20100211442
First step to the freedom - smash your TV
Indeed. I have not turned my TV at home one for over two years. Internet ftw, were you can get some proper news, and also watch shows you like, when you like. Emergent news sites and communites beats the old static ways of the TV, were you get spoon fed stuff big companies and governments wants you to, and also ads getting stuffed down your throats every 20-30 min.
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Blacksquirrel
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Posted - 2011.05.08 14:56:00 -
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And my sister is a big hippie that believes in the circumcision banning law in San Fransisco....
Oh well still my sister, still my family. Not all news is propaganda. If you believe that you're no better than people that only watch one news source. Even if it was be an intelligent human being and decide for yourself what to make of the given story.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2011.05.08 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Blacksquirrel
And my sister is a big hippie that believes in the circumcision banning law in San Fransisco....
Oh well still my sister, still my family. Not all news is propaganda. If you believe that you're no better than people that only watch one news source. Even if it was be an intelligent human being and decide for yourself what to make of the given story.
It's body mutilation, I support your sister wholy. Just make a study to see what places conduct circumcision and their tendency towards violence. I for one see a connection.
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Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
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Posted - 2011.05.08 16:16:00 -
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This video is now topical: Sopranos - Furio Attacks A ***** House
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Jno Aubrey
Galactic Patrol
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Posted - 2011.05.08 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron
Just make a study to see what places conduct circumcision and their tendency towards violence. I for one see a connection.
Admit it - you just pulled that out of your butt without passing your brain first.
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