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Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.05.07 21:08:00 -
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I was wondering if some of you could point me in the direction of some really, really good sci-fi movies/series.
I'm not a fan of Star Trek or Battlestar Gallactica...well, not a huge fan at least. I'll watch it if there's nothing else on. I'm talking more about the darker, more edgy sci-fi flicks.
I've already seen Sunshine, Solaris, Moon, 2001 and all its incarnations, all the Alien franchise of course, Event Horizon, and all the major darker-type sci-fi flicks. Are there any in the same vein as the aforementioned that you would recommend?
That includes all the standard Hollywood sci-fi BS as well, although Starship Troopers is entertaining, as silly as it is.
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AlleyKat
Gallente
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2011.05.07 21:15:00 -
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The Forbidden Planet - sci-fi classic of epic proportions
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Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
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Posted - 2011.05.07 21:21:00 -
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Fahrenheit 451 is good.. if you like easy going subtle scifi
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Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.05.07 21:37:00 -
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Argh! F451!!! How could I have forgotten! I have never read the book nor seen the movie and have been meaning to do both. Thank you so much Vogue!
Also thanks for the info on The Forbidden Planet...will check it out ASAP!
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Peri Simone
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Posted - 2011.05.08 02:50:00 -
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I thought 'District 9' was excellent, and I'd recommend Terry Gilliam's 'Brazil' and '12 Monkeys', though these veer away from your list a bit.
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Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams
The KWFL Republic
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Posted - 2011.05.08 03:56:00 -
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Oh a man after my own heart. Nice taste dude
Also good (in no particular order, the more * I put down the better the movie is imo).
Fair warning this list could become quite long as I remember movies and add comments
Not all of this films are probably as dark as you'd like, but they are all at least somewhat decent (no * = ok, * = good, ** = great *** = excellent). dw I have only rated the truly quality movies as ** or above. The * movies are pretty good nonetheless.
12 Monkeys -- **
Babylon A.D. -- *
Equilibrium -- ** -- (GUN KATA :D:D:D - post-post apocalyptic setting, humans have stripped themselves of emotion in order to prevent wars, murder etc)
Splice -- *** -- (dark, dark dark, or at the very least morally reprehensible. Also features a legitimate 'abomination unto god'. You need to watch this right now)
A Scanner Darkly
Children of Men -- ** -- (darrrrk)
Dawn Of The Dead -- *
Dead Space Downfall -- (never played the game, found this quite entertaining. animated and some of the voice actors don't 'suit' unfortunately)
District 9 -- ** -- (darrrrk)
Frequently Asked Questions About Time Travel -- (comedy, quite good. British w/ one of the guys from 'The I.T. Crowd')
Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior -- *
Predator -- ** -- (the original and the best)
Predators -- * -- (yes I haz man crush on Christian Bale and Adrien Brody k?)
Southland Tales -- * -- (catch the mind**** express. choo choo)
Star Trek -- * -- ('09, I don't really like star trek. But this movie was pretty kewl)
The Book of Eli -- (has it's moments)
The Fifth Element -- ** -- (another classic)
The Fourth Kind -- ** -- (I pee'd a lil, them aliens commin to getcha)
The Day The Earth Stood Still -- ('08)
The Jacket -- ** -- (moar adrien brody playing ****ed up roles plz)
The Road -- ** -- (Basically Fallout: The Movie. Think scorched earth style post-apocalyptic setting. One man and his son trekking across the country. Quite dark now that I think about it)
Total Recall -- * -- (quaaaid, start the reactorrr)
Daybreakers -- *
I Am Legend -- * -- (not a bad remake tbh)
Pandorum -- (has it's moments, has it's cheesiness)
Push -- *
Quarantine -- ** -- (yeh I'm lumping zombie movies as sci-fi here)
Resident Evil: Degeneration -- (not bad CGI film)
Resident Evil: Extinction -- (it's not bad, bit dry. Worth it to setup the next movie though)
Resident Evil: Afterlife -- ** -- (this is the latest one, it's actually the first one I liked. Probs cause the pay homage to the game in so many ways, **** the enemies even drop coins sorta  )
Serenity -- ** -- (ofc)
Starship troopers -- **
Starship troopers 3: Marauders -- (while not great, it's a hell of a lot better than the second one)
The Crazies -- * --
There's definately more, but I disremember, I'll update once I get some sleep
These next few aren't sci-fi, but they are excellent films you'll probably enjoy.
American Psycho -- * -- (thriller/mind****)
Case 39 -- ** -- (Horror! And real horror at that, not just a slasher/gorn movie)
Harry Brown -- ** -- (this has dark in bucketloads. Michael Caine brilliant as ever)
Rogue -- * -- (BIG....ASS...CROCODILE. Surprisingly scary and un-cheesy, gogo Aussie films)
Shutter Island -- * -- (mystery/mind****)
The Machinist -- ** -- (suspense/mind****)
The Experiment -- ** -- (adaptation of the 'Stamford Prison Experiment' and ofc starring Adrien Brody :p)
Tomorrow When The War Began -- ** -- (first of a series of action/suspense movies. Plot follows a group of people that 'missed' the start of WW3 by going out camping one weekend. When they get back? zomg all our town are belong to them (the bad guys), and they're in our stuffs taking our stuffs! Another Aussie flick, this time with big hollywood budget though heh)
Wolf Creek -- ** -- (10,000 km2 of Aussie outback, 3 backpackers, one sadistic murderer with the worlds creepiest laugh. Inspired by true events! squee!)
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The Praxis Initiative
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Posted - 2011.05.08 04:15:00 -
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Pitch Black maybe?
Its not really, really good. Id say its on par with Event Horizon.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.05.08 04:59:00 -
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The distinct lack of Sci-Fi series disturbs me 
So let's remedy that problem 
* Firefly (+ Serenity afterwards, just in case you're still hankering for movies)
* Babylon 5 - "epic story arcs are epic", and it aged decently (not great, but decently)
* all the Star Treks, but IN PARTICULAR Deep Space Nine - starts out really slow and almost static, but gets some serious depth quite fast because of it, and is therefore my fav. ST of all (TNG is a relatively close second)
* the Stargates series, but mostly the first one, and in particular the first 5 or 6 seasons
* Farscape - a bit "odd" at first (and weird near the end), relatively cheap-looking, but usually worth the watch for most episodes
* Andromeda - takes a while to get used to, but it grows on you -- but only the first 3 seasons or so, season 4 is a bit wishy-washy, and season 5 is horrible
* The Other Limits - wohoo !!!
* Earth - Final Conflict (but not so much the last season)
* Masters of Science Fiction (only 6 episodes exist)
* Defying Gravity (only one season exists, depends on taste)
* Space: Above and Beyond (two seasons, again, depends on taste, I liked it)
* SeaQuest DSV (season 3 got cut mid-way)
Then you have a host of series that at least occasionally veer off from Sci-Fi into fantasy and/or back again
* Doctor Who
* Fringe
* The X-Files (depending on taste)
* Sliders (hey, I loved it)
* The 4400 (ended kind of abruptly)
* Eureka
* Warehouse 13 (with a grain of salt)
* Heroes (with several grains of salt)
* The Middleman (very short-lived)
* Charlie Jade (again, just one season)
* Flash Forward (just one season yet again)
...and this is if you limit yourself to JUST "live-action" TV series, because there's a HOST of animated content (and I don't mean just anime) that can easily go toe to toe with some of the above.
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Jon Engel
Intaki Security and Intelligence
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2011.05.08 07:09:00 -
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Space Above and Beyond.
Ran for one season and left the whole damn story arc up for wonder. Fox just freaking fails when they cancel these good shows.
Anyhow, I recommend it, I will also state with zero apologies that Caprica sucks. Worst Science Fiction show ever, next to Sanctuary...
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente
Azteca Transportation Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.05.08 08:57:00 -
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Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 08/05/2011 09:00:41
Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 08/05/2011 08:57:11
I'll Chime in and Recommend most of Akita T's list (don't know all the series, but those I do recognise were indeed rather good) and add another of my own.
* The Burning Zone
Set in our time (late 90s I believe), it follows a more adventurous variant of the NCID (National Centre for Infectious Diseases) while they handle some rather unusual biohazard situations and try to prevent an organisation called "The Dawn" from wiping out the human race. Weirdness abound including Sentient viruses and all that goodness.
It only ran for a single season, with 19 episodes in total (that includes the pilot).
I've only ever found 1 place where they actually have this series on DVD unfortunately the pricetag is a bit silly because of that.
Haven't been able to find it anywhere through "less than legal" methods.
If anyone does, please send me a link too, because I really want to watch it again.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.05.08 09:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Meiyang Lee
Haven't been able to find it
Just finding it in a public place should not have been a problem (you don't even need anything except google to get quite a few hits), but waiting days or weeks for public tracker seeds to come online long enough on a very slow rotation can get boring. The alternative would be private trackers, assuming you can get an account to any of them.
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.08 10:03:00 -
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A Boy and his Dog - about said boy and his dog in a post-nuclear wasteland with an extremely evil and twisted ending.
Quote:
Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Xtreem
Gallente
Fire Mandrill
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Posted - 2011.05.08 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 08/05/2011 09:06:29
The distinct lack of Sci-Fi series disturbs me
So let's remedy that problem
* Firefly (+ Serenity afterwards, just in case you're still hankering for movies)
* Babylon 5 - "epic story arcs are epic", and it aged decently (not great, but decently)
* all the Star Treks, but IN PARTICULAR Deep Space Nine - starts out really slow and almost static, but gets some serious depth quite fast because of it, and is therefore my fav. ST of all (TNG is a relatively close second)
* the Stargates series, but mostly the first one, and in particular the first 5 or 6 seasons
* Farscape - a bit "odd" at first (and weird near the end), relatively cheap-looking, but usually worth the watch for most episodes
* Andromeda - takes a while to get used to, but it grows on you -- but only the first 3 seasons or so, season 4 is a bit wishy-washy, and season 5 is horrible
* The Other Limits - wohoo !!!
* Earth - Final Conflict (but not so much the last season)
* Masters of Science Fiction (only 6 episodes exist)
* Defying Gravity (only one season exists, depends on taste)
* Space: Above and Beyond (two half-seasons, again, depends on taste, I liked it)
* SeaQuest DSV (season 3 got cut mid-way)
Then you have a host of series that at least occasionally veer off from Sci-Fi into fantasy and/or back again
* Doctor Who
* Fringe
* The X-Files (depending on taste)
* Sliders (hey, I loved it)
* The 4400 (ended kind of abruptly)
* Eureka
* Warehouse 13 (with a grain of salt)
* Heroes (with several grains of salt)
* The Middleman (very short-lived)
* Charlie Jade (again, just one season)
* Flash Forward (just one season yet again)
...and this is if you limit yourself to JUST "live-action" TV series, because there's a HOST of animated content (and I don't mean just anime) that can easily go toe to toe with some of the above.
went to reply, you pretty much mentioned every decent sci fi I know of!
if you want old school
land of the giants and seaquest are OK.
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Peri Simone
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Posted - 2011.05.08 11:21:00 -
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Wow, some fantastic suggestions here - should keep you busy for a while!
I'm going to add Primer, which is a super low budget time travel movie and actually very good, so long as you're aware that two of the characters who appear in the first five minutes are basically going to disappear for the rest of the film. And now you are.
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Laplace's Demon
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Posted - 2011.05.08 11:46:00 -
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Seconding babylon5. Not much else comes close in terms of story telling and character development.
Lexx is pretty cool show too. It's really low budget and trashy but makes up for it with tons of black humour and ****.
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Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
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Posted - 2011.05.08 13:04:00 -
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Edited by: Vogue on 08/05/2011 13:10:07
Edited by: Vogue on 08/05/2011 13:04:22
Babylon 5 has excellent character development. Particularly the the juxtaposition of G'Kar and Londo Mollari. Both leaders of their people. G'Kar is struck by the plight of the Narn and Londo is struck by the majesty->rightousness of the Centauri. Both together witness the follies of empires rise and fall. The old to ashes and the new from ashes. Twice the pride double the fall. They have walked different paths and through common experience in the end they walk the same path. It's typical pedagogy progressive fiction - strategies of instruction and learning which we aspire to in fictional lore but in reality it is much harder as individuals by climbing the greasy pole to aquire power are bound by conflicting political loyalties and obligations to maintain a power base
Ambassador Londo Mollari: So, how does it feel to make history, hmm? Citizen
G'Kar: You do not make history. You can only hope to survive it.
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Jno Aubrey
Galactic Patrol
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Posted - 2011.05.08 13:32:00 -
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Another vote here for Babylon 5 - it is the sine qua non of Television SF.
Also check out its ill-fate successor: Crusade
For movies:
Repo Men
Gattaca
The Nightmare Before Christmas (more of a fantasy but delightfully twisted)
The Road
The Book of Eli
Any of the Resident Evil flicks
Watchmen
28 Days Later
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Baneken
Gallente
The New Knighthood
Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2011.05.08 18:20:00 -
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Well frankly, avoid resident evils unless you like films full of plot holes but each to his taste.
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Sitara
Minmatar
Solar Flare Trade and Production
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Posted - 2011.05.08 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Jno Aubrey
Another vote here for Babylon 5 - it is the sine qua non of Television SF.
This tbh
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Mina Sulva'r
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.08 19:21:00 -
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Edited by: Mina Sulva''r on 08/05/2011 19:24:03
Blade Runner - Definitely fits the dark and gritty.
Dune - The 1984 movie.
Pandorum - I picked it up out of the discount bin and was surprised how much I liked it. Almost more of a space monster movie. Waking up from hyper-sleep just to be disemboweled and eaten alive...well its just awesome.
Chronicles of riddick - Stylized art direction, and great action story.
Pitch Black - Very dark, not even sure if you could call it an anti-hero movie.
Hunter Prey - Found this on Netflix last night. B-movie for sure, great costume makeup, and not 1/2 bad acting, story and dialog. The ending really left me wanting more, and not in the bad way.
Babylon 5:In the Beginning - This made for TV movie is what got me into watching Babylon 5. I'd say this is one of the best space-battle TV movies ever made.
Space: Above and Beyond - Came out about the same time a Bab-5. While Bab-5 had almost a Star-trekie vibe, S:AaB was very gritty, low-tech, had way better writing and characters in my opinion. But like any "new" series you have to make it thru the first 5-6 episodes before it really finds its mojo. Its low budget makes the special effects look campy, but its a great series non the less.
The late 80's and early 90's had some really great sci-fi B-movies. Most were just really entertaining more than they were serious.
A lot of these below are B- and C- movies, for the most part they wernt that bad.
Ice Pirates - my favorite classic from that era. "Jason, my hand! Dont forget my hand!", and "The ship has...space herpes" This is a must see. This movie absolutely doesnt take itself seriously, which is what makes it great.
Enemy Mine - meh, didnt age that well. But I liked it back then.
Battle Beyond the Stars - very early 80's, only reason I remember it is the ship looked like it had knockers.
Screamers - also a meh movie, was okay the 1st time. I'll watch it every 5 years or so.
Spacehunter 'something' Forbidden Area - Had that sexy ginger, Molly Ringwald as a runaway (or was it stowaway).
Metalstorm: The Destruction of Jared-Syn - was such a bad movie I liked it.
I could throw out a lot more, just to throw them out. But in my opinion these are worth watching (at least once), and are keeping with the sci-fi spacy feel.
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GRIMSL33P3R
Caldari
MASS MURDER INC
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Posted - 2011.05.08 19:37:00 -
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Edited by: GRIMSL33P3R on 08/05/2011 19:42:13
ah you already wacth what i suggested nm then :P
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Alpheias
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2011.05.08 20:08:00 -
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A different list for you.
2046
Renaissance (french animation)
Sleep Dealer
Metropia (swedish animation)
Tetsuo: The Bullet Man
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Malevolence.
Imperial 0rder
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Posted - 2011.05.08 20:55:00 -
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Blake's 7
Because Jacqueline Pearce and Paul Darrow are the best sf actors ever.
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Jno Aubrey
Galactic Patrol
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Posted - 2011.05.08 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Baneken
Well frankly, avoid resident evils unless you like films full of plot holes but each to his taste.
Um, well, must admit to being a Mila Jovovich fan 
Would have mentioned 5th Element but assumed OP had already seen it.
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Posted - 2011.05.09 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 08/05/2011 09:06:29
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* Andromeda - takes a while to get used to, but it grows on you -- but only the first 3 seasons or so, season 4 is a bit wishy-washy, and season 5 is horrible
Akita,
Where can I get the Andromeda DVDs in the US? Been wanting to watch this for some time...
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.05.09 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: Zemme Le
Where can I get the Andromeda DVDs in the US? Been wanting to watch this for some time...
Well, you can find quite a few versions on Amazon, but the price tag is a bit yucky (around 187$ for the cheapest complete collection I could see there - Linkage), almost all others listed as used (quite a few partial collections or even just pairs of episodes there), and the ones that are supposedly listed as new probably aren't really new either.
Frankly, I'd rather download it from the net.
If you want to be as honest as possible and you feel like you really want to pay somebody for it, get it from Netflix (but that would be a "rental", not a purchase).
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Wilhelm Riley
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Posted - 2011.05.09 01:50:00 -
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A Boy and his Dog.
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Culmen
Caldari
Blood Phage Syndicate
Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2011.05.09 02:21:00 -
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Heres one nobodies heard of.
Roughnecks:Starship Troopers Chronicles
It's a CGI cartoon form 1999, The first campaign on pluto has horrendous graphics, but it gets better.
It is orders of magnitude more awesome then all of the movies combined.
For starters there is evidence that the military has more than 3 functional brain cells.
And the bugs are smarter too.
For example, they have plasma bugs that are being used as field artillery.
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Caldari
Fyretracker Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2011.05.09 02:37:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 08/05/2011 09:06:29
The distinct lack of Sci-Fi series disturbs me
So let's remedy that problem
* Firefly (+ Serenity afterwards, just in case you're still hankering for movies)
* Babylon 5 - "epic story arcs are epic", and it aged decently (not great, but decently)
* all the Star Treks, but IN PARTICULAR Deep Space Nine - starts out really slow and almost static, but gets some serious depth quite fast because of it, and is therefore my fav. ST of all (TNG is a relatively close second)
* the Stargates series, but mostly the first one, and in particular the first 5 or 6 seasons
* Farscape - a bit "odd" at first (and weird near the end), relatively cheap-looking, but usually worth the watch for most episodes
* Andromeda - takes a while to get used to, but it grows on you -- but only the first 3 seasons or so, season 4 is a bit wishy-washy, and season 5 is horrible
* The Other Limits - wohoo !!!
* Earth - Final Conflict (but not so much the last season)
* Masters of Science Fiction (only 6 episodes exist)
* Defying Gravity (only one season exists, depends on taste)
* Space: Above and Beyond (two half-seasons, again, depends on taste, I liked it)
* SeaQuest DSV (season 3 got cut mid-way)
Then you have a host of series that at least occasionally veer off from Sci-Fi into fantasy and/or back again
* Doctor Who
* Fringe
* The X-Files (depending on taste)
* Sliders (hey, I loved it)
* The 4400 (ended kind of abruptly)
* Eureka
* Warehouse 13 (with a grain of salt)
* Heroes (with several grains of salt)
* The Middleman (very short-lived)
* Charlie Jade (again, just one season)
* Flash Forward (just one season yet again)
...and this is if you limit yourself to JUST "live-action" TV series, because there's a HOST of animated content (and I don't mean just anime) that can easily go toe to toe with some of the above.
Sliders was an awesome concept that yet again Network execs ruined.(I honestly did not like the whole Kromagg story arc that took over the more what if aspects the show started with)
Ok but to acquire many of these shows will likely require resorting to Either Netflix(if in the US) or to Yarrrrr via torrents since your hopes of finding new DVDs is slim for some.
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catinboots
Minmatar
Vintage heavy industries
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Posted - 2011.05.09 10:11:00 -
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Great list but there is one film missing
One of my personal favorites terry gilliam's brazil
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Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.05.09 12:35:00 -
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You guys/gals are fantastic. Thank you so much! While I've seen many of your suggestions already, there are so many more I haven't seen including Firefly, which I've been meaning to get a hold of. Thanks again! <3 you guys!
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2011.05.09 12:43:00 -
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Dark Star
"Let there be light."
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Posted - 2011.05.09 12:54:00 -
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Watchmen had an interesting style.
Equilibrium was entertaining.
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Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
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Posted - 2011.05.09 14:09:00 -
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Edited by: Vogue on 09/05/2011 14:11:44
Dark Star is hilarious - A human discussing philosophy with an AI bomb.
Total Recall is a great action sci-fi movie that is engrossing where many other action scifi films are not.
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Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.05.09 18:43:00 -
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Starwreck - In the Pirkinning
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0472566/
Pure perfection.
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Posted - 2011.05.09 23:57:00 -
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Oh yeah ... there's like several versions of Solaris. A new one with like George Clooney - which I've not seen and an older one which I have. Apparently a TV movie too ...
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Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.05.10 00:42:00 -
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The original is French, right? I've only seen the Clooney version, and I honestly liked it. It's very slow, plodding...makes you take in and notice every detail in every scene. It kinda reminds me of a cross between Moon and Sunrise...melancholy but beautiful. Really enjoyed the dialogue too.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.05.10 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: Astenion
The original is French, right?
Polish book, Russian TV movie, then Russian cinema movie, then the USA remake with Clooney.
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Zothike
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.05.10 10:17:00 -
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not very well known but very good old sci fi movie with Paul Newman "quintet" post apoc movie in ice age
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079770/
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Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.05.10 13:12:00 -
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After putting it off for months, I finally watched the first Firefly episode and I'm completely confused about why they only made one season. All the crappy incarnations of Star Trek and BSG go on for years, and one of the best and most original series to come along in a long, long time gets shut down. Figures.
I do, however, like the captain in his new series, Castle.
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2011.05.11 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: Astenion
After putting it off for months, I finally watched the first Firefly episode and I'm completely confused about why they only made one season. All the crappy incarnations of Star Trek and BSG go on for years, and one of the best and most original series to come along in a long, long time gets shut down. Figures.
I do, however, like the captain in his new series, Castle.
Wheedon was known for challenging himself with series titles and concepts that caused his efforts problems.
"Buffy The Vampire Slayer" was titled to sound silly - then made into a terrible movie that wasted the talents of it's actors (the director didn't want children to find the vampires scary ...) before finally succeeding under Whedon's own hand and with SMG as Buffy. Of course then - once he was successful - he had to go and ruin it by inserting is personal politics into the show ... and viewership steadily declined ...
Firefly was not merely Cowboys in Space - it was the American Post Civil War South (without the slavery issues) in space. Not the kind of thing that made the TV exec's comfortable or which most of the public even got. It had other problems too ... as the science behind it all was sort of vague.
Whedon was really good at manipulating the audiences emotions but he didn't have a very firm grasp of technology, government or the military so when his efforts strayed away from fantasy - where he could just make everything up - they suffered.
For a viewing public that wants formulaic sitcoms's like Seinfeld, Friends and Three and a Half Men, etc., etc., his success in making cult favorites ... wasn't profitable - enough.
It's like Freaks & Geeks. The one and only TV show I've ever seen that gave a realistic depiction of 70's teenagers and ********* - (which BTW killed the series as after that episode it never aired an episode again).
Of course - the same could pretty much be said for any Sci Fi series. They may well have some success in theaters and on cable but ... they don't last on Network TV. In that respect, ST:TOS - actually did fairly well to get 3 seasons.
*shrug*
Main stream TV doesn't want people to think. If they were thinking - they might resent having their thoughts disturbed by the blaring sound of the commercials audio track, mute the sound and continue on with their thoughts undisturbed until the show came back. After all - The Commercials - is why the show is there.
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Orbiting vs. Kiting
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Gallente
The New Knighthood
Apocalypse Now.
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There are also several post apocalyptic scenarios being made over the years the one I particularly like is http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053137/ (1959 version) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0219224/ (2000 version).
The ending is actually quite brutal when you think about it. 
The original had super stars of their time (Gregory Beck and Fred Astaire and Ava Gardner) in lead roles.
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Slade Trillgon
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I will throw it out but it is not a true sci-fi, but I always loved it (the original) and it definately had the sci-fi feel as it involved an alien contamination.
Andromeda Strain
Originally by: Mina Sulva'r
The late 80's and early 90's had some really great sci-fi B-movies. Most were just really entertaining more than they were serious.
A lot of these below are B- and C- movies, for the most part they wernt that bad.
Ice Pirates - my favorite classic from that era. "Jason, my hand! Dont forget my hand!", and "The ship has...space herpes" This is a must see. This movie absolutely doesnt take itself seriously, which is what makes it great.
This is a B-sci-fi comedy classic.
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Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
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Edited by: Vogue on 11/05/2011 18:39:51
The original BSG was nerfed by CBS and turned it into a glib per episode action scifi series. The new BSG was awesome as it had many over arching serious plot lines including per episode plot specials. And many of the serious plot lines were not resolved totally but left as philosophical questions which was cute.
A lot of people did not like the new BSG as it had a dark edge but for me that is what made it more credible.
The new BSG was like the original Star Trek - It took current geo political issues and tackled them. Star Trek TNG was a platform for 80's American liberal politics with added weaksauce. Enterprise was good at as it embraced gusty American new frontier adventurism.
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Posted - 2011.05.11 21:30:00 -
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Here's a few movies and shows I enjoyed :
Cypher
Outland
Robocop 1&2 (but for God's sake, stay away from robocop 3 and the tv-series)
Troll Hunter (more fantasy than scifi, but quite entertaining)
Futurama
Twin Peaks (again, not really scifi, but they do pick up a signal from another star in one episode )
The Hidden
I come in peace
Hardware (very dark dystopian cyberpunk)
The Cube
Quatermass and the Pit
Torchwood (esp. the last season - Children of Earth)
Impostor
And some that I haven't seen yet :
Another Heaven (japanese)
The Borrower (If anyone knows where I can get my hands on this one - do tell, my YARR is stuck on 92.4% )
Cargo (Swiss movie)
Open your eyes (remade as Vanilla Sky with Tom Cruise)
Total Recall 2070 (HBO series - supposedly much closer to Philip K. ****'s vision than the movie).
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Sadayiel
Caldari
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
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Edited by: Sadayiel on 12/05/2011 05:58:34
Originally by: Souxie Alduin
Here's a few movies and shows I enjoyed :
Cypher
Outland
Robocop 1&2 (but for God's sake, stay away from robocop 3 and the tv-series)
Troll Hunter (more fantasy than scifi, but quite entertaining)
Futurama
Twin Peaks (again, not really scifi, but they do pick up a signal from another star in one episode)
The Hidden
I come in peace
Hardware (very dark dystopian cyberpunk)
The Cube
Quatermass and the Pit
Torchwood (esp. the last season - Children of Earth)
Impostor
And some that I haven't seen yet :
Another Heaven (japanese)
The Borrower (If anyone knows where I can get my hands on this one - do tell, my YARR is stuck on 92.4%)
Cargo (Swiss movie)
Open your eyes (remade as Vanilla Sky with Tom Cruise)
Total Recall 2070 (HBO series - supposedly much closer to Philip K. ****'s vision than the movie).
Yep here was thinking on Cargo swiss film i liked the overall idea and theme of this film.
also some ideas just came to my mind.
Ghost in the shell (both original movie and the Stand alone complex series) about mankind and cyborg technology
Titan AE, didn't become a huge hit but i liked it tbh.
Battle beyond the Stars, not sure if someone speak about this but just think on a bunch of pvpers Vs a titan
Rescue on NY and L.A. also They Live(john Carpenter genius)
Impostor bsed on philips K **** novel
Also evil dead 2 and 3 (3 know as army of darkness) sam raimi and bruce campbell best dark humour ever
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Ark on Hulu is pretty good imo.
Originally by: Asestorian
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Frecator Dementa
Caldari
Perkone
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Nobody mentioned Odyssey 5 yet ? I am disappoint
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Posted - 2011.05.13 15:10:00 -
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In a similar vein to Sunshine and Event Horizon, I'm going to +1 Pandorum, which someone else mentioned on the previous page. It's not a sci-fi masterpiece, but I found it pretty enjoyable.
The premise is similar to Event Horizon: crew members wake up after a long hibernation period inside a massive spaceship, and they figure something has gone very wrong while they were asleep, spending the rest of the movie trying to figure out exactly what happened... and that's all you should know about it, any further information would be spoiling the plot.
I did find the spastic camera work and hectic editing annoying, but that's a given these days.
Like Event Horizon, it's a blend of sci-fi and horror, taking place inside a mysterious spaceship, though overall I found Event Horizon to be the better movie. Speaking of which, I watched it with the commentary on, and it's a pity to hear how much more it could've been according to the director's original vision - but he had to cut down on it following studio / MMPA demands to make it less gruesome and more palatable to mainstream audiences.
He meant the Hell scenes to go on for longer, and on the commentary he invites the viewer to pause them and watch it frame by frame, as there is a lot of funky stuff going on there in the background that you won't notice in the final cut, as they pass by way too fast. And funky stuff is to be seen there indeed if you do that.
It's too bad they don't make more movies like Moon nowadays, which I enjoyed as a very nice throwback to those old-school sci-fi movies they used to make, where things happen slowly and quietly, drawing you in with their special mood and atmosphere. Piece of trivia I recently found out about Moon: the director is actually David Bowie's son.
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Zuju
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
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Edited by: Zuju on 17/05/2011 14:11:02
District 9
The Matrix (you know the one and only {the others do NOT exist})
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (quite different from the book, but then again so is the TV series and the radio drama {on that note see/read/listen to them as well})
Red Dwarf. Cult sci-fi comedy classic. very British so Americans tend to miss the point.
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Posted - 2011.05.17 18:59:00 -
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Dark City
Didn't see this one mentioned here, pretty good sci-fi and with yummy Jennifer Connelly
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Miso Hawnee
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Originally by: Zuju
Edited by: Zuju on 17/05/2011 14:11:02
District 9
The Matrix (you know the one and only {the others do NOT exist})
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (quite different from the book, but then again so is the TV series and the radio drama {on that note see/read/listen to them as well})
Red Dwarf. Cult sci-fi comedy classic. very British so Americans tend to miss the point.
I am American and I love red dwarf. I grew up watching British comedy on public broadcasting so maybe early exposure to English humor is why.
Space Above and Beyond was a short lived but well produced 'WW2 in space show.' It had some pretty edgy anti establishment themes which is probably what got it axed. I love the ending, they don't make any attempts to glorify or sugarcoat warfare.
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Posted - 2011.05.18 13:39:00 -
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Ted:öI don't know what's going on. We're both stumbling around together in this unformed world whose rules and objectives are largely unknown, seemingly undecipherable or even possibly nonexistent, always on the verge of being killed by forces we don't understand!ö
Allegra: ôThat sounds like my game, all rightö.
No, not EVEà.ExistenZ
(Also, with all due modesty, my own series Fireball XLF)
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Alain Kinsella
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.05.18 18:09:00 -
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Pfft. Still no reference to Star Cops. Given those were made in the late 80s, the themes presented have aged reasonably well.
While the old Dune has its charm, I'm also partial to the two mini-series that Sci-Fi did. Like BSG, you have to step back and consider it anew (compare to the books, not the older movie).
Missing 2001 and 2010. Sheesh. Also disappointed that a Rama movie never took off (yet).
As for games - If you can find copies, and a way to play them:
Manhunter: New York
Manhunter: San Francisco
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