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Posted - 2005.02.14 14:31:00 - [31]

Meh, if you wanna use T2 mediums, put them on a Deimos. They chew through a raxes resources.
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Posted - 2005.02.14 14:31:00 - [32]

Meh, if you wanna use T2 mediums, put them on a Deimos. They chew through a raxes resources.
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Posted - 2005.02.14 14:38:00 - [33]

Good thread, I really want to fly my Thorax, but I'm putting it off till I upgrade my skills, which is quite annoying considering what you need to learn.

Will have to stick to using my Catalyst destroyer, but I am getting bored of the same ****ty missions lvl1 missions.
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Posted - 2005.02.14 14:38:00 - [34]

Good thread, I really want to fly my Thorax, but I'm putting it off till I upgrade my skills, which is quite annoying considering what you need to learn.

Will have to stick to using my Catalyst destroyer, but I am getting bored of the same ****ty missions lvl1 missions.
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Posted - 2005.02.14 14:55:00 - [35]

Originally by: Hunt Smacker
Meh, if you wanna use T2 mediums, put them on a Deimos. They chew through a raxes resources.


the above statement is true only for Ions and Neutrons... unless you have poor skills.

i will happily accept a 1-on-1 against any other rax setup :-)

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Posted - 2005.02.14 14:55:00 - [36]

Originally by: Hunt Smacker
Meh, if you wanna use T2 mediums, put them on a Deimos. They chew through a raxes resources.


the above statement is true only for Ions and Neutrons... unless you have poor skills.

i will happily accept a 1-on-1 against any other rax setup :-)

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Posted - 2005.02.14 16:46:00 - [37]

If you want to get out of lvl 1 missions I would suggest not jumping straight to the Thorax, it's quite hard to fly properly. Get a Vexor or Celestse which are both very capable of doing lvl 2 missions and some lvl 3's. Without excellent skills the Thorax can be distinctly meh. Esp if you try and go for a Blasterax Setup. Fitting Electrion Blaster II is all well and good if you have Engineering 5, Electtronics 5, Gunnery 5, Small Hybrids 5, Small Rail Specialisation 1, Medium Hybrids 5, Medium Rail Specialisation 1 and a giangantic pile-o-cash. But for other people they're not the weapon of choice.

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Posted - 2005.02.14 16:46:00 - [38]

If you want to get out of lvl 1 missions I would suggest not jumping straight to the Thorax, it's quite hard to fly properly. Get a Vexor or Celestse which are both very capable of doing lvl 2 missions and some lvl 3's. Without excellent skills the Thorax can be distinctly meh. Esp if you try and go for a Blasterax Setup. Fitting Electrion Blaster II is all well and good if you have Engineering 5, Electtronics 5, Gunnery 5, Small Hybrids 5, Small Rail Specialisation 1, Medium Hybrids 5, Medium Rail Specialisation 1 and a giangantic pile-o-cash. But for other people they're not the weapon of choice.

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Posted - 2005.02.14 21:31:00 - [39]

Okay, perhaps people are mixing target audiences, but the skills required for T2 weaponry (cruiser-class) are all fairly handy anyway, and don't take too long to train. If you're serious about flying a Thorax, Electron IIs take about a month or so to train, and really offer a massive benefit - the power of the best named T1 blasters, but far more available - and you can buy them for under a million each anyway.


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Posted - 2005.02.14 21:31:00 - [40]

Okay, perhaps people are mixing target audiences, but the skills required for T2 weaponry (cruiser-class) are all fairly handy anyway, and don't take too long to train. If you're serious about flying a Thorax, Electron IIs take about a month or so to train, and really offer a massive benefit - the power of the best named T1 blasters, but far more available - and you can buy them for under a million each anyway.



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Posted - 2005.02.17 11:32:00 - [41]

Edited by: Dash Ripcock on 17/02/2005 11:33:13
Thorax Electron II setup:

High

4 * Heavy Electron Blaster IIs
1 * M Nosferatu I (Named)

Medium

1 * 10Mn MWD I (Named)
1 * Webifer (X5 or better)
1 * Warp Scrambler (7.5km)

Low

1 * RCU II

3 * Hardeners (Exp/Therm/Kin) OR
3 * Energized Adaptive Nano II (Not sure on stacking penalty)

1 * M Armour Rep II

Drones

4 * Praetors (EM)
4 * Bezerkers (Explosive)

This should fit if you have level 5 fitting skills, and of course the skills to use the T2 equipment. The damage output should be pretty terrifying, and the tank should be able to hold quite well due to the M Nosferatu - and if it doesn't you've either bitten off something too big, or it's dead already!



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Posted - 2005.02.17 11:32:00 - [42]

Edited by: Dash Ripcock on 17/02/2005 11:33:13
Thorax Electron II setup:

High

4 * Heavy Electron Blaster IIs
1 * M Nosferatu I (Named)

Medium

1 * 10Mn MWD I (Named)
1 * Webifer (X5 or better)
1 * Warp Scrambler (7.5km)

Low

1 * RCU II

3 * Hardeners (Exp/Therm/Kin) OR
3 * Energized Adaptive Nano II (Not sure on stacking penalty)

1 * M Armour Rep II

Drones

4 * Praetors (EM)
4 * Bezerkers (Explosive)

This should fit if you have level 5 fitting skills, and of course the skills to use the T2 equipment. The damage output should be pretty terrifying, and the tank should be able to hold quite well due to the M Nosferatu - and if it doesn't you've either bitten off something too big, or it's dead already!




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Posted - 2005.02.17 11:44:00 - [43]

Originally by: Dash Ripcock
Edited by: Dash Ripcock on 17/02/2005 11:33:13
Thorax Electron II setup:

High

4 * Heavy Electron Blaster IIs
1 * M Nosferatu I (Named)

Medium

1 * 10Mn MWD I (Named)
1 * Webifer (X5 or better)
1 * Warp Scrambler (7.5km)

Low

1 * RCU II

3 * Hardeners (Exp/Therm/Kin) OR
3 * Energized Adaptive Nano II (Not sure on stacking penalty)

1 * M Armour Rep II

Drones

4 * Praetors (EM)
4 * Bezerkers (Explosive)

This should fit if you have level 5 fitting skills, and of course the skills to use the T2 equipment. The damage output should be pretty terrifying, and the tank should be able to hold quite well due to the M Nosferatu - and if it doesn't you've either bitten off something too big, or it's dead already!



thats a good setup.

a variation which i like:

high = 5* Heavy Electron 2 (saves 100 grid not having the nos)
mids = the same as yours
lows = 2 or 3 good damage mods, adaptive nano passive hardener, 800mm plate

less survivability, but it can eat through an apoc tank (and kill him if he forgot to pack his drones)

ps: electron blaster II's on sale :-) i have a large unsold stock atm due to stupid people not realising how good they actually are

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Posted - 2005.02.17 11:44:00 - [44]

Originally by: Dash Ripcock
Edited by: Dash Ripcock on 17/02/2005 11:33:13
Thorax Electron II setup:

High

4 * Heavy Electron Blaster IIs
1 * M Nosferatu I (Named)

Medium

1 * 10Mn MWD I (Named)
1 * Webifer (X5 or better)
1 * Warp Scrambler (7.5km)

Low

1 * RCU II

3 * Hardeners (Exp/Therm/Kin) OR
3 * Energized Adaptive Nano II (Not sure on stacking penalty)

1 * M Armour Rep II

Drones

4 * Praetors (EM)
4 * Bezerkers (Explosive)

This should fit if you have level 5 fitting skills, and of course the skills to use the T2 equipment. The damage output should be pretty terrifying, and the tank should be able to hold quite well due to the M Nosferatu - and if it doesn't you've either bitten off something too big, or it's dead already!



thats a good setup.

a variation which i like:

high = 5* Heavy Electron 2 (saves 100 grid not having the nos)
mids = the same as yours
lows = 2 or 3 good damage mods, adaptive nano passive hardener, 800mm plate

less survivability, but it can eat through an apoc tank (and kill him if he forgot to pack his drones)

ps: electron blaster II's on sale :-) i have a large unsold stock atm due to stupid people not realising how good they actually are

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Posted - 2005.02.17 12:02:00 - [45]

Edited by: Charlie Kane on 17/02/2005 12:20:58
Try this setup out. I like it my self. Works great.


High: 5x Light Neutrons T2 or Named
Med: AB T2, Webber, Cap Recharger
Low: Reactor Control Unit, Med rep, 1600mm reinforced rolled tungsten plates "or best you can afford", energized adaptive nano membrane ii, capacitor power relay.
Mix of heavy drones two of each type of damage.
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Posted - 2005.02.17 12:02:00 - [46]

Edited by: Charlie Kane on 17/02/2005 12:20:58
Try this setup out. I like it my self. Works great.


High: 5x Light Neutrons T2 or Named
Med: AB T2, Webber, Cap Recharger
Low: Reactor Control Unit, Med rep, 1600mm reinforced rolled tungsten plates "or best you can afford", energized adaptive nano membrane ii, capacitor power relay.
Mix of heavy drones two of each type of damage.
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Posted - 2005.02.17 12:15:00 - [47]

Edited by: Garreck on 17/02/2005 12:20:38
With regards to the light neutron 2/heavy electron 2 debate...

It's all about flexibility and what sort of role your 'rax is gonna play. Many people find the 1600mm/light neutron setup far more useful for a solo thorax. It all comes down to survivability: all the firepower in the world doesn't matter if you're down to half armor by the time you reach optimal range for your blasters. It's a sacrifce in firepower that buys you great durability. A thorax with light neutrons, 8 heavy drones, and a 1600mm plate can easily take down a battlecruiser solo.

For all out damage, though, of course you're going to want the heavy electrons 2s. These weapons, in combination with heavy drones, have the firepower to burn through a decently tanked battleship...especially if you have gallente cruiser at 5 (your gunnery skills are obviously already quite high if your using tech 2 blasters.) Only question is, can you last long enough? If you're working in tandem with an ecm support ship, the answer is "yes." Blackbird/thorax combo is quite simply death for any battleship, save the raven, which is uniquely qualified to destroy cruisers, even whilst target jammed.

For solo flexibility, light neutrons and 1600mm plate. For a damage-specific role in a team, heavy electrons.

*edit* and meowcat, I may be speaking to you about your overstock Wink

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Posted - 2005.02.17 12:15:00 - [48]

Edited by: Garreck on 17/02/2005 12:20:38
With regards to the light neutron 2/heavy electron 2 debate...

It's all about flexibility and what sort of role your 'rax is gonna play. Many people find the 1600mm/light neutron setup far more useful for a solo thorax. It all comes down to survivability: all the firepower in the world doesn't matter if you're down to half armor by the time you reach optimal range for your blasters. It's a sacrifce in firepower that buys you great durability. A thorax with light neutrons, 8 heavy drones, and a 1600mm plate can easily take down a battlecruiser solo.

For all out damage, though, of course you're going to want the heavy electrons 2s. These weapons, in combination with heavy drones, have the firepower to burn through a decently tanked battleship...especially if you have gallente cruiser at 5 (your gunnery skills are obviously already quite high if your using tech 2 blasters.) Only question is, can you last long enough? If you're working in tandem with an ecm support ship, the answer is "yes." Blackbird/thorax combo is quite simply death for any battleship, save the raven, which is uniquely qualified to destroy cruisers, even whilst target jammed.

For solo flexibility, light neutrons and 1600mm plate. For a damage-specific role in a team, heavy electrons.

*edit* and meowcat, I may be speaking to you about your overstock Wink

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Posted - 2005.05.10 23:15:00 - [49]

Edited by: madaluap on 10/05/2005 23:21:17
weird that nobody is using the most powerfull setup-ingame Laughing

since i dont use thorax that often anymore i'll share it:

5X light neutron 2 --get ready for 150 or hull 200+ wrecking--

1X mwd
1X web
1X 20 k scrambler

1X named armor repair (fitting tech 2 aint possible)
1X 1600 mm (with rolled you have about 4 k armor..)
1X magnetic stab 2
2X hardener (active) you can chose whatever you want. i use explosive + kinetic.
Explosive for taking care of that big hole and kinetic for main damage of hybrid.

killed about 40 ships with this setup without dying once.

even survived vs ravens for about 4 salvo's of torps till jamming backup arived YARRRR!!

takes down everything from frig to bc...but watch you cap.

/edit: drones..i use 2 heavy drones of every type of damage. if you get jammed or are just at a small 3 km range youre guns almost dont hit anymore (using AM charge)


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Posted - 2005.05.10 23:15:00 - [50]

Edited by: madaluap on 10/05/2005 23:21:17
weird that nobody is using the most powerfull setup-ingame Laughing

since i dont use thorax that often anymore i'll share it:

5X light neutron 2 --get ready for 150 or hull 200+ wrecking--

1X mwd
1X web
1X 20 k scrambler

1X named armor repair (fitting tech 2 aint possible)
1X 1600 mm (with rolled you have about 4 k armor..)
1X magnetic stab 2
2X hardener (active) you can chose whatever you want. i use explosive + kinetic.
Explosive for taking care of that big hole and kinetic for main damage of hybrid.

killed about 40 ships with this setup without dying once.

even survived vs ravens for about 4 salvo's of torps till jamming backup arived YARRRR!!

takes down everything from frig to bc...but watch you cap.

/edit: drones..i use 2 heavy drones of every type of damage. if you get jammed or are just at a small 3 km range youre guns almost dont hit anymore (using AM charge)
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Posted - 2005.05.11 00:18:00 - [51]

If you can get your hands on em use heavy modal electron blasters when pvping. Also 8 ogres is not the best drones bay mix berserkers and praetors. That way you'll cover all 4 damage types.
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Posted - 2005.05.11 00:18:00 - [52]

If you can get your hands on em use heavy modal electron blasters when pvping. Also 8 ogres is not the best drones bay mix berserkers and praetors. That way you'll cover all 4 damage types.
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Posted - 2005.05.11 02:42:00 - [53]

Thorax Pvp

Well i just fly suicide Rax's in pvp as they are alot more fun and do nice dmg, tho usually fly in groups of 3 thorax's as they pack quite a punch.

Setup is as follows

4 Heavy Ion Blaster II's
1 Heavy Electron Blaster II

1 Named 10mn Mwd
1 Stasis Web
1 Warp Scrambler/Disrupter

4 Tech II dmg mods
1 RCU

4 Preators
4 Bezerkers

Or mediums/lights depending on your style of fighting and your paranoia vs frigs Smile

As i said really fun ship to fly and a really deadly ship to fly, watch how fast a raven goes down to 3 thorax's and a celestis with dampners, its uncanny Very Happy


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Posted - 2005.05.11 02:42:00 - [54]

Thorax Pvp

Well i just fly suicide Rax's in pvp as they are alot more fun and do nice dmg, tho usually fly in groups of 3 thorax's as they pack quite a punch.

Setup is as follows

4 Heavy Ion Blaster II's
1 Heavy Electron Blaster II

1 Named 10mn Mwd
1 Stasis Web
1 Warp Scrambler/Disrupter

4 Tech II dmg mods
1 RCU

4 Preators
4 Bezerkers

Or mediums/lights depending on your style of fighting and your paranoia vs frigs Smile

As i said really fun ship to fly and a really deadly ship to fly, watch how fast a raven goes down to 3 thorax's and a celestis with dampners, its uncanny Very Happy


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Posted - 2005.06.18 17:16:00 - [55]

Wow, so much to learn how to equip a ship. Just wanted to say thanks to all those that gave some input on your set ups.
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Posted - 2005.06.18 17:16:00 - [56]

Wow, so much to learn how to equip a ship. Just wanted to say thanks to all those that gave some input on your set ups.
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Posted - 2005.06.18 20:14:00 - [57]

Edited by: BattleBot on 18/06/2005 20:14:06
high's - Light Nuets (5 of them)
mids - 10mn MWD - Webber - 7.5 scram
Lows - 1600mm Rolled plate - 2 x cap realy - named repair - The rest pure damage mod's
Of course all heavy drones in the bay. Brill for PvP but i surpose it wud also be good in PVE, just swich out some of the low's for hardeners (dont switch out the 1600mm)
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Posted - 2005.06.18 20:14:00 - [58]

Edited by: BattleBot on 18/06/2005 20:14:06
high's - Light Nuets (5 of them)
mids - 10mn MWD - Webber - 7.5 scram
Lows - 1600mm Rolled plate - 2 x cap realy - named repair - The rest pure damage mod's
Of course all heavy drones in the bay. Brill for PvP but i surpose it wud also be good in PVE, just swich out some of the low's for hardeners (dont switch out the 1600mm)
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Posted - 2005.06.18 20:29:00 - [59]

150 IIs > light neutrons.
med beam IIs > 150 IIs
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Posted - 2005.06.18 20:29:00 - [60]

150 IIs > light neutrons.
med beam IIs > 150 IIs
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