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 Luance DeAngeluotti    |
Posted - 2005.02.10 18:30:00 -
[1] I am trying to fly a Thorax like he was meant. With Blasters and in close combat and using drones. At the moment I have only 886.000 Skill points and just tried my first Level 2 mission 'Damsel in Distress'. I got a severe beating and don't know, if I have the right fitting for my ship. I have the ship equipped with 4 Anode Neutron Particle Cannon 1 and to be able to do this 4 of my lowslots are filled with RCU I. (Yes I know, I could use 5*250mm Railguns, but is that fun?) Now my questions: 1. What do I do against NPC missiles? 2. Currently I am learning to use a MWD to close into battle much quicker than with an afterburner. But a friend told me that I am not allowed to use a MWD in deadspace combat. Is this true? If yes how shall I close the range without getting shot up by missiles? 3. Has anybody a suggestion for another fitting? Thanks! --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |
 Luance DeAngeluotti Gallente Gallente Insorum Research Ltd. |
Posted - 2005.02.10 18:30:00 -
[2] I am trying to fly a Thorax like he was meant. With Blasters and in close combat and using drones. At the moment I have only 886.000 Skill points and just tried my first Level 2 mission 'Damsel in Distress'. I got a severe beating and don't know, if I have the right fitting for my ship. I have the ship equipped with 4 Anode Neutron Particle Cannon 1 and to be able to do this 4 of my lowslots are filled with RCU I. (Yes I know, I could use 5*250mm Railguns, but is that fun?) Now my questions: 1. What do I do against NPC missiles? 2. Currently I am learning to use a MWD to close into battle much quicker than with an afterburner. But a friend told me that I am not allowed to use a MWD in deadspace combat. Is this true? If yes how shall I close the range without getting shot up by missiles? 3. Has anybody a suggestion for another fitting? Thanks! |
 Gariuys |
Posted - 2005.02.10 18:43:00 -
[3] A setup that requires more then 1 reactor control unit, completely and utterly blows. Fit ions and/or electrons instead with a damage mod and 1 or no rcus, or go for a large armour plate and supplement any med blasters you can fit with small blasters. 1. You tank them or use smartbombs to destroy them, but smartbombs hit drones which might not be a hot idea if you use those a lot. 2. correct mwd doesn't work in deaspace afterburner will have to do, if you really want more speed a overdrive injector is a option. 3. see above. A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |
 Gariuys Evil Strangers Inc. |
Posted - 2005.02.10 18:43:00 -
[4] A setup that requires more then 1 reactor control unit, completely and utterly blows. Fit ions and/or electrons instead with a damage mod and 1 or no rcus, or go for a large armour plate and supplement any med blasters you can fit with small blasters. 1. You tank them or use smartbombs to destroy them, but smartbombs hit drones which might not be a hot idea if you use those a lot. 2. correct mwd doesn't work in deaspace afterburner will have to do, if you really want more speed a overdrive injector is a option. 3. see above. |
 Khristopher |
Posted - 2005.02.10 18:47:00 -
[5] I like to go with the rule that if it takes RCU or cpu boosters to fit change fitting and skills. Blaster rax is a skill heavy ship as you need MWD skills, drone skills, etc.. You might try switching to less power/cpu hungry blasters or maybe try something like I used when I was in a rax: 5x named 125mm rails (easy to fit and don't need to be point blank to fire) MWD (ab for deadspace) Webber Cap Recharger Medium Tech2 Armor Repairer Armor plate (1600 I think it was added a massive amount of armor) 2x hardener (rat type) cap relay bay full of 8 heavy drones Just turn on the MWD/ab/armor repairer when needed. Can't recall if this is exactly what I used but its close and it worked for most lvl 3 missions just fine. |
 Khristopher Legio I Mordu Cohort I |
Posted - 2005.02.10 18:47:00 -
[6] I like to go with the rule that if it takes RCU or cpu boosters to fit change fitting and skills. Blaster rax is a skill heavy ship as you need MWD skills, drone skills, etc.. You might try switching to less power/cpu hungry blasters or maybe try something like I used when I was in a rax: 5x named 125mm rails (easy to fit and don't need to be point blank to fire) MWD (ab for deadspace) Webber Cap Recharger Medium Tech2 Armor Repairer Armor plate (1600 I think it was added a massive amount of armor) 2x hardener (rat type) cap relay bay full of 8 heavy drones Just turn on the MWD/ab/armor repairer when needed. Can't recall if this is exactly what I used but its close and it worked for most lvl 3 missions just fine. |
 meowcat |
Posted - 2005.02.10 19:10:00 -
[7] against NPCs you are better off using frigate sized guns and a good armour tank for PvP use heavy electron blasters, MWD, cap injector and damage mods ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but |
 meowcat Aliastra |
Posted - 2005.02.10 19:10:00 -
[8] against NPCs you are better off using frigate sized guns and a good armour tank for PvP use heavy electron blasters, MWD, cap injector and damage mods ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ the cat is back yeah but no but yeah but no but |
 Shinca |
Posted - 2005.02.10 19:22:00 -
[9] 5 heavy electron blasters, armor tank (1 repairer, 2x hardeners), drones, mwd and as much some cap stuff you can fit (low slot and med slot), webber... And did I mention drones... 8 heavys will make a lot of difference. As a last resort you might use power diagnostic if you need more grid but better find a setup where you don't have to. Basicaly close range setups are much more difficult since you need to be able to take the damage so you need to armor tank (hardenes and repairer). And no, you can't shield tank thorax, at least not for close range setup. ----------------------------- (\_/) (X.x) (> <) WTB cookbook with bunny recipes |
 Shinca |
Posted - 2005.02.10 19:22:00 -
[10] 5 heavy electron blasters, armor tank (1 repairer, 2x hardeners), drones, mwd and as much some cap stuff you can fit (low slot and med slot), webber... And did I mention drones... 8 heavys will make a lot of difference. As a last resort you might use power diagnostic if you need more grid but better find a setup where you don't have to. Basicaly close range setups are much more difficult since you need to be able to take the damage so you need to armor tank (hardenes and repairer). And no, you can't shield tank thorax, at least not for close range setup. clones are people two Slovenian EVE forum |
 Alex Jerusalem |
Posted - 2005.02.11 09:26:00 -
[11] Edited by: Alex Jerusalem on 11/02/2005 09:33:42 I'm currently messing around with a Thorax and whilst I still have plenty of tweaking to do (including seeing whether I can cram some Medium blasters on there), here's what I have at the moment: High slots: Five named Ion Blasters (small) with Antimatter ammo. Mid Slots: 10mn Afterburner (not named but that's just because I recently spent all my money!), Cap Recharger I, named Webifier. Low slots: named Medium Armour Repairer I (currently skilling up for a tech II one), energised or named passive hardner plating for Explosive, Thermal and Kinetic, 1600mm Nanofiber I armour plating. Drone Bay: 8 Ogres (all of which I can launch at once) With that setup 0.2 belt rat NPCs are no problem and I could nap through level 2 agent missions. Turn the afterburner on, charge headlong into the enemy and let loose. [EVE Journal][Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |
 Alex Jerusalem Gallente The Scope |
Posted - 2005.02.11 09:26:00 -
[12] Edited by: Alex Jerusalem on 11/02/2005 09:33:42 I'm currently messing around with a Thorax and whilst I still have plenty of tweaking to do (including seeing whether I can cram some Medium blasters on there), here's what I have at the moment: High slots: Five named Ion Blasters (small) with Antimatter ammo. Mid Slots: 10mn Afterburner (not named but that's just because I recently spent all my money!), Cap Recharger I, named Webifier. Low slots: named Medium Armour Repairer I (currently skilling up for a tech II one), energised or named passive hardner plating for Explosive, Thermal and Kinetic, 1600mm Nanofiber I armour plating. Drone Bay: 8 Ogres (all of which I can launch at once) With that setup 0.2 belt rat NPCs are no problem and I could nap through level 2 agent missions. Turn the afterburner on, charge headlong into the enemy and let loose. [EVE Journal][Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |
R'adeh |
Posted - 2005.02.11 10:56:00 -
[13] Edited by: R'adeh on 11/02/2005 10:59:43 Edited by: R'adeh on 11/02/2005 10:58:37 Well, I have less skillpoints than you (~690k) but so far all my LVL2 missions have been "easy" with my blasterax setup. So here you go: 4 x light neutrons with antimatter does some nasty damage, the anodes are good... 1 x medium nos (knave is good) 1 x named mwd 1 x fleeting webber 1 x med ohm cap battery 2 x named med armor repairer rest: CPRs and a named damage mod Just warp in and use the mwd to get really close to your enemies. Send the drones ahead (hammerheads) and as soon as you're in a 10km range from your target, start the web and NOS. With the NOS running you should be able to let the webber and one repairer run for a VERY long time and you can always use your second repairer in case of emergency. You won't run out of armor before you're close enough to fire as long as you let your AB/MWD run. In deadspace you have to fit an AB (get a good named one) but with 2 repairers you should be able to tank till in reach. The NOS/CPRs will recharge your cap quickly, so you can let the AB run forever. This setup is purely for PVE but with slight modifications it can turn into an acceptable PVP setup. Another good advantage of this setup: You can just click "approach" and don't have to do timeconsuming distance setting changes since the optimal range with Antimatter is ~750m. You'll hit the enemy from 50m to ~3500m. Use Tungsten ammo if you need a bit more range. |
 R'adeh Gallente Gekidoku |
Posted - 2005.02.11 10:56:00 -
[14] Edited by: R'adeh on 11/02/2005 10:59:43 Edited by: R'adeh on 11/02/2005 10:58:37 Well, I have less skillpoints than you (~690k) but so far all my LVL2 missions have been "easy" with my blasterax setup. So here you go: 4 x light neutrons with antimatter does some nasty damage, the anodes are good... 1 x medium nos (knave is good) 1 x named mwd 1 x fleeting webber 1 x med ohm cap battery 2 x named med armor repairer rest: CPRs and a named damage mod Just warp in and use the mwd to get really close to your enemies. Send the drones ahead (hammerheads) and as soon as you're in a 10km range from your target, start the web and NOS. With the NOS running you should be able to let the webber and one repairer run for a VERY long time and you can always use your second repairer in case of emergency. You won't run out of armor before you're close enough to fire as long as you let your AB/MWD run. In deadspace you have to fit an AB (get a good named one) but with 2 repairers you should be able to tank till in reach. The NOS/CPRs will recharge your cap quickly, so you can let the AB run forever. This setup is purely for PVE but with slight modifications it can turn into an acceptable PVP setup. Another good advantage of this setup: You can just click "approach" and don't have to do timeconsuming distance setting changes since the optimal range with Antimatter is ~750m. You'll hit the enemy from 50m to ~3500m. Use Tungsten ammo if you need a bit more range. _______________________________________________ My views are my own and I don't represent my corp. Please show mercy Drakma! |
 Shayla Sh'inlux |
Posted - 2005.02.11 11:11:00 -
[15] As mentioned before, a Blasterax is quite a skillheavy ship to fly. Not something I'd advice someone with 800K skillpoints to do (unlike, say a Raven which utterly destroys lvl 4 combat with the same 800K). You'll need drones 5, engineering 5 and weapon upgrades, hull upgrades and electronics at least at 4 to even start thinking about fitting it as a Blasterboat. A good NPC'ing build would be one with small railguns (or blasters) instead of mediums. They do almost the same damage due to tracking and signature and leave loads of grid for your lowslots. Try to work towards this: 5 x 150mm railgun II 1 x MWD, 1x Webber, 1 x Cap Recharger 1 x 1600mm, 1 x Named Med Rep, 1 x Mag Stab II, 2 x Hardner To fly the above, you'll need around 2m skillpoints though and that's assuming middle-of-the-road capacitor and gunnery skills. While you build up skillpoints, I suggest you use the sniper thorax setup: 5 x 250mm Railgun 1 x Mwd, 1 x Med Shield Booster II, 1 x Cap Recharger 4 x RCU, 1 x Power Diag It's boring to fly, but it's what made me my first 100 million harvesting Memory Implants in lvl 3 missions. Or you could toy around with a Celestis, which is quite a good ratting boat for lvl 2 missions and far less skill intensive. ------------------------------------------------------- "Do you really think that's air you're breathing?" |
 Shayla Sh'inlux Gallente |
Posted - 2005.02.11 11:11:00 -
[16] As mentioned before, a Blasterax is quite a skillheavy ship to fly. Not something I'd advice someone with 800K skillpoints to do (unlike, say a Raven which utterly destroys lvl 4 combat with the same 800K). You'll need drones 5, engineering 5 and weapon upgrades, hull upgrades and electronics at least at 4 to even start thinking about fitting it as a Blasterboat. A good NPC'ing build would be one with small railguns (or blasters) instead of mediums. They do almost the same damage due to tracking and signature and leave loads of grid for your lowslots. Try to work towards this: 5 x 150mm railgun II 1 x MWD, 1x Webber, 1 x Cap Recharger 1 x 1600mm, 1 x Named Med Rep, 1 x Mag Stab II, 2 x Hardner To fly the above, you'll need around 2m skillpoints though and that's assuming middle-of-the-road capacitor and gunnery skills. While you build up skillpoints, I suggest you use the sniper thorax setup: 5 x 250mm Railgun 1 x Mwd, 1 x Med Shield Booster II, 1 x Cap Recharger 4 x RCU, 1 x Power Diag It's boring to fly, but it's what made me my first 100 million harvesting Memory Implants in lvl 3 missions. Or you could toy around with a Celestis, which is quite a good ratting boat for lvl 2 missions and far less skill intensive.
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Luance DeAngeluotti |
Posted - 2005.02.12 13:15:00 -
[17] Thank you all for your replies! Now I got some ideas on my character development and how to fly and fight with the Thorax. In the meantime I did some other Lvl. 2 Missions which were not so though. Seems that the 'Damsel in Distress' is one of the tougher missions... --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |
Luance DeAngeluotti Gallente Gallente Insorum Research Ltd. |
Posted - 2005.02.12 13:15:00 -
[18] Thank you all for your replies! Now I got some ideas on my character development and how to fly and fight with the Thorax. In the meantime I did some other Lvl. 2 Missions which were not so though. Seems that the 'Damsel in Distress' is one of the tougher missions... |
Keiro |
Posted - 2005.02.14 11:21:00 -
[19] If it is a drone mission do it like this: 5 x light blasters Neutron 1 x AB (ded space can use that) the rest cap rechargers 1 x vortex 1x medium armor repairer the rest cap relays this is the cheepest setup and i having fun with it to :) |
 Keiro |
Posted - 2005.02.14 11:21:00 -
[20] If it is a drone mission do it like this: 5 x light blasters Neutron 1 x AB (ded space can use that) the rest cap rechargers 1 x vortex 1x medium armor repairer the rest cap relays this is the cheepest setup and i having fun with it to :) |
 Hunt Smacker |
Posted - 2005.02.14 11:29:00 -
[21] High: 5x Light Neutrons T2 or Named 1x MWD (or AB for DS), 2x Cap Chargers 2x Hardeners (Therm/Kin) 1x Medium Repair T2 or Named 1x Magnetic Stabilizer T2 or Cap Power Relays For PVP: 5x Light Neutrons T2 1x MWD, 1x J5 Warp Scrambler, 1x Medium Capacitor Injector with 400 type 3x Hardeners (Exp/Therm/Kin), 1x Medium T2 Repair, Cap Power Relays Webber isn't needed so much with Light Neutrons, since they hit even Rogue Drones fairly easy. Don't forget your maximum complement of drones depending on skill. The cap injector won't last forever, so you do need some recharge support. |
 Hunt Smacker Gallente TunDraGon |
Posted - 2005.02.14 11:29:00 -
[22] High: 5x Light Neutrons T2 or Named 1x MWD (or AB for DS), 2x Cap Chargers 2x Hardeners (Therm/Kin) 1x Medium Repair T2 or Named 1x Magnetic Stabilizer T2 or Cap Power Relays For PVP: 5x Light Neutrons T2 1x MWD, 1x J5 Warp Scrambler, 1x Medium Capacitor Injector with 400 type 3x Hardeners (Exp/Therm/Kin), 1x Medium T2 Repair, Cap Power Relays Webber isn't needed so much with Light Neutrons, since they hit even Rogue Drones fairly easy. Don't forget your maximum complement of drones depending on skill. The cap injector won't last forever, so you do need some recharge support. ----------- |
 meowcat |
Posted - 2005.02.14 11:42:00 -
[23] meh, bleaurgh and pffft to all the ppl who put frigate guns on a rax for PvP Heavy Electron IIs for teh win ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but |
meowcat Aliastra |
Posted - 2005.02.14 11:42:00 -
[24] meh, bleaurgh and pffft to all the ppl who put frigate guns on a rax for PvP Heavy Electron IIs for teh win ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ the cat is back yeah but no but yeah but no but |
Ithildin |
Posted - 2005.02.14 11:55:00 -
[25] It'll get heavier and heavier the harder missions you do. Eventually you'll graduate to level 3, and then I'm afraid that a blaster setup might not be healthy. Atleast I know that in level 4 missions, it's suicide (there's some ships that you just cannot get to if you want a decent tank, too.) -- If TC causes you discomfort that you feel is unwarranted or may be outside TC's current contract - contact me, please. |
 Ithildin Gallente The Corporation Cruel Intentions |
Posted - 2005.02.14 11:55:00 -
[26] It'll get heavier and heavier the harder missions you do. Eventually you'll graduate to level 3, and then I'm afraid that a blaster setup might not be healthy. Atleast I know that in level 4 missions, it's suicide (there's some ships that you just cannot get to if you want a decent tank, too.) - EVE is sick. |
MrRookie |
Posted - 2005.02.14 12:11:00 -
[27] I agree with meowcat. Heavy electrons are easy to fitt with a large ammo capacity and uber tracking. Heavy electron 2s ftw _____________________________________________ \o/ I got a siggy...  WTB 3x Medium Modulated Pulse Energy Beams http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=139877 |
 MrRookie Caldari Dark and Light inc. D-L |
Posted - 2005.02.14 12:11:00 -
[28] I agree with meowcat. Heavy electrons are easy to fitt with a large ammo capacity and uber tracking. Heavy electron 2s ftw *guy being attacked by a pirat in a complex
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 Dash Ripcock |
Posted - 2005.02.14 14:28:00 -
[29] Electron IIs are fantastic weapons, fit a Magnetic Stab II in there as well and you're looking at a very high DOT. They also free up a lot of space elsewhere in your fitting, making it easier to fit more armour in your lows. There are drawbacks as well, such as the reduced range and falloff, and the fact that they chew threw ammunition at a much faster rate than Ions. Not really a complaint, just make sure your hold is fully stocked. Prior to acquiring a Deimos, I used to fly my Thorax a lot in both PvE and PvP (although I generally used the same setup, since I can't be bothered to swap out modules for rats). High 5 * Light Neutron Blasters You can fit out Light Neutron IIs now, they weren't available when I used to fly my Thorax. Medium 1 * MWD (named) 1 * Scrambler (7.5Km) 1 * Webifier (85% plus) Someone mentioned a Cap Booster with charges due to Light Neutrons having high tracking and not needing a webber. If you're fighting slow targets this is a great idea, although I prefer having a Webifier because a) I like seeing them stuck down and b) in-case I find something smaller to shoot at. Low 1 * 1600mm Armour (Rolled Tungsten) 3 * Hardeners (Exp/Therm/Kin) 1 * M Repairer I (named) This is with the intention of a very tough layer of armour in mind, and needless to say the cap recharge is pretty awful compared to something with relays. If you're fighting rats, you'll only need two hardeners so put a Cap Power Relay in there if you can - a Mag Stab II is wasted on Light Neutrons, since the majority of your damage comes from the drones Drones 4 * Praetors 4 * Bezerkers Doing all of your damage in Thermal or Kinetic is a bad idea. Ogres are tough as hell, and great for long fights against rats, but they're just so damn slow in PvP - especially when you want to call them back in. Also, if you think about it, your standard ship is gonna have either 50/60 EM/Exp shields and 60/10 EM/Exp armour, or 0/60 EM/Exp shields and 60/55 EM/Exp armour, so you're hitting them where it hurts. Alternatively go for a heavier hitting Electron II setup. I haven't flown one in a Thorax, but I imagine it would fit as the above, just without the 1600mm armour, and a CPR or Mag Stab II in there instead. My two isk - and I hope it helps! Battle Angels Inc - The Movie |
 Dash Ripcock Caldari 0utbreak |
Posted - 2005.02.14 14:28:00 -
[30] Electron IIs are fantastic weapons, fit a Magnetic Stab II in there as well and you're looking at a very high DOT. They also free up a lot of space elsewhere in your fitting, making it easier to fit more armour in your lows. There are drawbacks as well, such as the reduced range and falloff, and the fact that they chew threw ammunition at a much faster rate than Ions. Not really a complaint, just make sure your hold is fully stocked. Prior to acquiring a Deimos, I used to fly my Thorax a lot in both PvE and PvP (although I generally used the same setup, since I can't be bothered to swap out modules for rats). High 5 * Light Neutron Blasters You can fit out Light Neutron IIs now, they weren't available when I used to fly my Thorax. Medium 1 * MWD (named) 1 * Scrambler (7.5Km) 1 * Webifier (85% plus) Someone mentioned a Cap Booster with charges due to Light Neutrons having high tracking and not needing a webber. If you're fighting slow targets this is a great idea, although I prefer having a Webifier because a) I like seeing them stuck down and b) in-case I find something smaller to shoot at. Low 1 * 1600mm Armour (Rolled Tungsten) 3 * Hardeners (Exp/Therm/Kin) 1 * M Repairer I (named) This is with the intention of a very tough layer of armour in mind, and needless to say the cap recharge is pretty awful compared to something with relays. If you're fighting rats, you'll only need two hardeners so put a Cap Power Relay in there if you can - a Mag Stab II is wasted on Light Neutrons, since the majority of your damage comes from the drones Drones 4 * Praetors 4 * Bezerkers Doing all of your damage in Thermal or Kinetic is a bad idea. Ogres are tough as hell, and great for long fights against rats, but they're just so damn slow in PvP - especially when you want to call them back in. Also, if you think about it, your standard ship is gonna have either 50/60 EM/Exp shields and 60/10 EM/Exp armour, or 0/60 EM/Exp shields and 60/55 EM/Exp armour, so you're hitting them where it hurts. Alternatively go for a heavier hitting Electron II setup. I haven't flown one in a Thorax, but I imagine it would fit as the above, just without the 1600mm armour, and a CPR or Mag Stab II in there instead. My two isk - and I hope it helps! |
Hunt Smacker |
Posted - 2005.02.14 14:31:00 -
[31] Meh, if you wanna use T2 mediums, put them on a Deimos. They chew through a raxes resources. |
Hunt Smacker Gallente TunDraGon |
Posted - 2005.02.14 14:31:00 -
[32] Meh, if you wanna use T2 mediums, put them on a Deimos. They chew through a raxes resources. ----------- |
Alicomb |
Posted - 2005.02.14 14:38:00 -
[33] Good thread, I really want to fly my Thorax, but I'm putting it off till I upgrade my skills, which is quite annoying considering what you need to learn. Will have to stick to using my Catalyst destroyer, but I am getting bored of the same ****ty missions lvl1 missions. |
 Alicomb Aliastra |
Posted - 2005.02.14 14:38:00 -
[34] Good thread, I really want to fly my Thorax, but I'm putting it off till I upgrade my skills, which is quite annoying considering what you need to learn. Will have to stick to using my Catalyst destroyer, but I am getting bored of the same ****ty missions lvl1 missions. |
meowcat |
Posted - 2005.02.14 14:55:00 -
[35]
the above statement is true only for Ions and Neutrons... unless you have poor skills. i will happily accept a 1-on-1 against any other rax setup :-) Heavy Electron Blaster II's for teh winz0r ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but |
meowcat Aliastra |
Posted - 2005.02.14 14:55:00 -
[36]
the above statement is true only for Ions and Neutrons... unless you have poor skills. i will happily accept a 1-on-1 against any other rax setup :-) Heavy Electron Blaster II's for teh winz0r ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ the cat is back yeah but no but yeah but no but |
 Aramoro |
Posted - 2005.02.14 16:46:00 -
[37] If you want to get out of lvl 1 missions I would suggest not jumping straight to the Thorax, it's quite hard to fly properly. Get a Vexor or Celestse which are both very capable of doing lvl 2 missions and some lvl 3's. Without excellent skills the Thorax can be distinctly meh. Esp if you try and go for a Blasterax Setup. Fitting Electrion Blaster II is all well and good if you have Engineering 5, Electtronics 5, Gunnery 5, Small Hybrids 5, Small Rail Specialisation 1, Medium Hybrids 5, Medium Rail Specialisation 1 and a giangantic pile-o-cash. But for other people they're not the weapon of choice. Aramoro [S]tateCorp - "We are the Presscorp" |
 Aramoro Gallente StateCorp |
Posted - 2005.02.14 16:46:00 -
[38] If you want to get out of lvl 1 missions I would suggest not jumping straight to the Thorax, it's quite hard to fly properly. Get a Vexor or Celestse which are both very capable of doing lvl 2 missions and some lvl 3's. Without excellent skills the Thorax can be distinctly meh. Esp if you try and go for a Blasterax Setup. Fitting Electrion Blaster II is all well and good if you have Engineering 5, Electtronics 5, Gunnery 5, Small Hybrids 5, Small Rail Specialisation 1, Medium Hybrids 5, Medium Rail Specialisation 1 and a giangantic pile-o-cash. But for other people they're not the weapon of choice. Aramoro [S]tateCorp - "We are the Presscorp" |
 Dash Ripcock |
Posted - 2005.02.14 21:31:00 -
[39] Okay, perhaps people are mixing target audiences, but the skills required for T2 weaponry (cruiser-class) are all fairly handy anyway, and don't take too long to train. If you're serious about flying a Thorax, Electron IIs take about a month or so to train, and really offer a massive benefit - the power of the best named T1 blasters, but far more available - and you can buy them for under a million each anyway. Battle Angels Inc - The Movie |
Dash Ripcock Caldari 0utbreak |
Posted - 2005.02.14 21:31:00 -
[40] Okay, perhaps people are mixing target audiences, but the skills required for T2 weaponry (cruiser-class) are all fairly handy anyway, and don't take too long to train. If you're serious about flying a Thorax, Electron IIs take about a month or so to train, and really offer a massive benefit - the power of the best named T1 blasters, but far more available - and you can buy them for under a million each anyway. |
Dash Ripcock |
Posted - 2005.02.17 11:32:00 -
[41] Edited by: Dash Ripcock on 17/02/2005 11:33:13 Thorax Electron II setup: High 4 * Heavy Electron Blaster IIs 1 * M Nosferatu I (Named) Medium 1 * 10Mn MWD I (Named) 1 * Webifer (X5 or better) 1 * Warp Scrambler (7.5km) Low 1 * RCU II 3 * Hardeners (Exp/Therm/Kin) OR 3 * Energized Adaptive Nano II (Not sure on stacking penalty) 1 * M Armour Rep II Drones 4 * Praetors (EM) 4 * Bezerkers (Explosive) This should fit if you have level 5 fitting skills, and of course the skills to use the T2 equipment. The damage output should be pretty terrifying, and the tank should be able to hold quite well due to the M Nosferatu - and if it doesn't you've either bitten off something too big, or it's dead already! Battle Angels Inc - The Movie |
Dash Ripcock Caldari 0utbreak |
Posted - 2005.02.17 11:32:00 -
[42] Edited by: Dash Ripcock on 17/02/2005 11:33:13 Thorax Electron II setup: High 4 * Heavy Electron Blaster IIs 1 * M Nosferatu I (Named) Medium 1 * 10Mn MWD I (Named) 1 * Webifer (X5 or better) 1 * Warp Scrambler (7.5km) Low 1 * RCU II 3 * Hardeners (Exp/Therm/Kin) OR 3 * Energized Adaptive Nano II (Not sure on stacking penalty) 1 * M Armour Rep II Drones 4 * Praetors (EM) 4 * Bezerkers (Explosive) This should fit if you have level 5 fitting skills, and of course the skills to use the T2 equipment. The damage output should be pretty terrifying, and the tank should be able to hold quite well due to the M Nosferatu - and if it doesn't you've either bitten off something too big, or it's dead already! |
meowcat |
Posted - 2005.02.17 11:44:00 -
[43]
thats a good setup. a variation which i like: high = 5* Heavy Electron 2 (saves 100 grid not having the nos) mids = the same as yours lows = 2 or 3 good damage mods, adaptive nano passive hardener, 800mm plate less survivability, but it can eat through an apoc tank (and kill him if he forgot to pack his drones) ps: electron blaster II's on sale :-) i have a large unsold stock atm due to stupid people not realising how good they actually are ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but |
meowcat Aliastra |
Posted - 2005.02.17 11:44:00 -
[44]
thats a good setup. a variation which i like: high = 5* Heavy Electron 2 (saves 100 grid not having the nos) mids = the same as yours lows = 2 or 3 good damage mods, adaptive nano passive hardener, 800mm plate less survivability, but it can eat through an apoc tank (and kill him if he forgot to pack his drones) ps: electron blaster II's on sale :-) i have a large unsold stock atm due to stupid people not realising how good they actually are ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ the cat is back yeah but no but yeah but no but |
Charlie Kane |
Posted - 2005.02.17 12:02:00 -
[45] Edited by: Charlie Kane on 17/02/2005 12:20:58 Try this setup out. I like it my self. Works great. High: 5x Light Neutrons T2 or Named Med: AB T2, Webber, Cap Recharger Low: Reactor Control Unit, Med rep, 1600mm reinforced rolled tungsten plates "or best you can afford", energized adaptive nano membrane ii, capacitor power relay. Mix of heavy drones two of each type of damage. |
 Charlie Kane The Scope |
Posted - 2005.02.17 12:02:00 -
[46] Edited by: Charlie Kane on 17/02/2005 12:20:58 Try this setup out. I like it my self. Works great. High: 5x Light Neutrons T2 or Named Med: AB T2, Webber, Cap Recharger Low: Reactor Control Unit, Med rep, 1600mm reinforced rolled tungsten plates "or best you can afford", energized adaptive nano membrane ii, capacitor power relay. Mix of heavy drones two of each type of damage. |
Garreck |
Posted - 2005.02.17 12:15:00 -
[47] Edited by: Garreck on 17/02/2005 12:20:38 With regards to the light neutron 2/heavy electron 2 debate... It's all about flexibility and what sort of role your 'rax is gonna play. Many people find the 1600mm/light neutron setup far more useful for a solo thorax. It all comes down to survivability: all the firepower in the world doesn't matter if you're down to half armor by the time you reach optimal range for your blasters. It's a sacrifce in firepower that buys you great durability. A thorax with light neutrons, 8 heavy drones, and a 1600mm plate can easily take down a battlecruiser solo. For all out damage, though, of course you're going to want the heavy electrons 2s. These weapons, in combination with heavy drones, have the firepower to burn through a decently tanked battleship...especially if you have gallente cruiser at 5 (your gunnery skills are obviously already quite high if your using tech 2 blasters.) Only question is, can you last long enough? If you're working in tandem with an ecm support ship, the answer is "yes." Blackbird/thorax combo is quite simply death for any battleship, save the raven, which is uniquely qualified to destroy cruisers, even whilst target jammed. For solo flexibility, light neutrons and 1600mm plate. For a damage-specific role in a team, heavy electrons. *edit* and meowcat, I may be speaking to you about your overstock  Garreck Aeternus Crusade Aku. Soku. Zan. |
 Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance |
Posted - 2005.02.17 12:15:00 -
[48] Edited by: Garreck on 17/02/2005 12:20:38 With regards to the light neutron 2/heavy electron 2 debate... It's all about flexibility and what sort of role your 'rax is gonna play. Many people find the 1600mm/light neutron setup far more useful for a solo thorax. It all comes down to survivability: all the firepower in the world doesn't matter if you're down to half armor by the time you reach optimal range for your blasters. It's a sacrifce in firepower that buys you great durability. A thorax with light neutrons, 8 heavy drones, and a 1600mm plate can easily take down a battlecruiser solo. For all out damage, though, of course you're going to want the heavy electrons 2s. These weapons, in combination with heavy drones, have the firepower to burn through a decently tanked battleship...especially if you have gallente cruiser at 5 (your gunnery skills are obviously already quite high if your using tech 2 blasters.) Only question is, can you last long enough? If you're working in tandem with an ecm support ship, the answer is "yes." Blackbird/thorax combo is quite simply death for any battleship, save the raven, which is uniquely qualified to destroy cruisers, even whilst target jammed. For solo flexibility, light neutrons and 1600mm plate. For a damage-specific role in a team, heavy electrons. *edit* and meowcat, I may be speaking to you about your overstock |
madaluap |
Posted - 2005.05.10 23:15:00 -
[49] Edited by: madaluap on 10/05/2005 23:21:17 weird that nobody is using the most powerfull setup-ingame  since i dont use thorax that often anymore i'll share it: 5X light neutron 2 --get ready for 150 or hull 200+ wrecking-- 1X mwd 1X web 1X 20 k scrambler 1X named armor repair (fitting tech 2 aint possible) 1X 1600 mm (with rolled you have about 4 k armor..) 1X magnetic stab 2 2X hardener (active) you can chose whatever you want. i use explosive + kinetic. Explosive for taking care of that big hole and kinetic for main damage of hybrid. killed about 40 ships with this setup without dying once. even survived vs ravens for about 4 salvo's of torps till jamming backup arived takes down everything from frig to bc...but watch you cap. /edit: drones..i use 2 heavy drones of every type of damage. if you get jammed or are just at a small 3 km range youre guns almost dont hit anymore (using AM charge) |
 madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolance |
Posted - 2005.05.10 23:15:00 -
[50] Edited by: madaluap on 10/05/2005 23:21:17 weird that nobody is using the most powerfull setup-ingame since i dont use thorax that often anymore i'll share it: 5X light neutron 2 --get ready for 150 or hull 200+ wrecking-- 1X mwd 1X web 1X 20 k scrambler 1X named armor repair (fitting tech 2 aint possible) 1X 1600 mm (with rolled you have about 4 k armor..) 1X magnetic stab 2 2X hardener (active) you can chose whatever you want. i use explosive + kinetic. Explosive for taking care of that big hole and kinetic for main damage of hybrid. killed about 40 ships with this setup without dying once. even survived vs ravens for about 4 salvo's of torps till jamming backup arived takes down everything from frig to bc...but watch you cap. /edit: drones..i use 2 heavy drones of every type of damage. if you get jammed or are just at a small 3 km range youre guns almost dont hit anymore (using AM charge) _________________________________________________ Breetime |
Cracken |
Posted - 2005.05.11 00:18:00 -
[51] If you can get your hands on em use heavy modal electron blasters when pvping. Also 8 ogres is not the best drones bay mix berserkers and praetors. That way you'll cover all 4 damage types. |
 Cracken Gallente |
Posted - 2005.05.11 00:18:00 -
[52] If you can get your hands on em use heavy modal electron blasters when pvping. Also 8 ogres is not the best drones bay mix berserkers and praetors. That way you'll cover all 4 damage types. |
Mac Knife |
Posted - 2005.05.11 02:42:00 -
[53] Thorax Pvp Well i just fly suicide Rax's in pvp as they are alot more fun and do nice dmg, tho usually fly in groups of 3 thorax's as they pack quite a punch. Setup is as follows 4 Heavy Ion Blaster II's 1 Heavy Electron Blaster II 1 Named 10mn Mwd 1 Stasis Web 1 Warp Scrambler/Disrupter 4 Tech II dmg mods 1 RCU 4 Preators 4 Bezerkers Or mediums/lights depending on your style of fighting and your paranoia vs frigs  As i said really fun ship to fly and a really deadly ship to fly, watch how fast a raven goes down to 3 thorax's and a celestis with dampners, its uncanny  |
 Mac Knife Gallente The Company of Wolves |
Posted - 2005.05.11 02:42:00 -
[54] Thorax Pvp Well i just fly suicide Rax's in pvp as they are alot more fun and do nice dmg, tho usually fly in groups of 3 thorax's as they pack quite a punch. Setup is as follows 4 Heavy Ion Blaster II's 1 Heavy Electron Blaster II 1 Named 10mn Mwd 1 Stasis Web 1 Warp Scrambler/Disrupter 4 Tech II dmg mods 1 RCU 4 Preators 4 Bezerkers Or mediums/lights depending on your style of fighting and your paranoia vs frigs As i said really fun ship to fly and a really deadly ship to fly, watch how fast a raven goes down to 3 thorax's and a celestis with dampners, its uncanny |
Taunnhauser |
Posted - 2005.06.18 17:16:00 -
[55] Wow, so much to learn how to equip a ship. Just wanted to say thanks to all those that gave some input on your set ups. |
 Taunnhauser |
Posted - 2005.06.18 17:16:00 -
[56] Wow, so much to learn how to equip a ship. Just wanted to say thanks to all those that gave some input on your set ups. |
BattleBot |
Posted - 2005.06.18 20:14:00 -
[57] Edited by: BattleBot on 18/06/2005 20:14:06 high's - Light Nuets (5 of them) mids - 10mn MWD - Webber - 7.5 scram Lows - 1600mm Rolled plate - 2 x cap realy - named repair - The rest pure damage mod's Of course all heavy drones in the bay. Brill for PvP but i surpose it wud also be good in PVE, just swich out some of the low's for hardeners (dont switch out the 1600mm) |
 BattleBot |
Posted - 2005.06.18 20:14:00 -
[58] Edited by: BattleBot on 18/06/2005 20:14:06 high's - Light Nuets (5 of them) mids - 10mn MWD - Webber - 7.5 scram Lows - 1600mm Rolled plate - 2 x cap realy - named repair - The rest pure damage mod's Of course all heavy drones in the bay. Brill for PvP but i surpose it wud also be good in PVE, just swich out some of the low's for hardeners (dont switch out the 1600mm) |
DrunkenOne |
Posted - 2005.06.18 20:29:00 -
[59] 150 IIs > light neutrons. med beam IIs > 150 IIs o_O. Someone make me a sig :( |
 DrunkenOne Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2005.06.18 20:29:00 -
[60] 150 IIs > light neutrons. med beam IIs > 150 IIs o_O. Please resize your signature graphic to be smaller than 24,000 bytes in filesize - Jacques |
 Ithildin |
Posted - 2005.06.18 20:50:00 -
[61] madaluap, it's bad to resurrect old threds. In this case 3 months old. In either case, that setup is precisely why the Devs need to look at the blaster balance. It is mor powerful in a general sort of way than the Heavy Blaster setup, but I can only say that I have never ever failed agaisnt a dura-Thorax. But this is because I am rather good at identifying guns by look-at, this means I can easily keep out of range. -- If TC causes you discomfort that you feel is unwarranted or may be outside TC's current contract - contact me, please. |
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation Cruel Intentions |
Posted - 2005.06.18 20:50:00 -
[62] madaluap, it's bad to resurrect old threds. In this case 3 months old. In either case, that setup is precisely why the Devs need to look at the blaster balance. It is mor powerful in a general sort of way than the Heavy Blaster setup, but I can only say that I have never ever failed agaisnt a dura-Thorax. But this is because I am rather good at identifying guns by look-at, this means I can easily keep out of range. - EVE is sick. |
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation Cruel Intentions |
Posted - 2005.06.18 20:50:00 -
[63] madaluap, it's bad to resurrect old threds. In this case 3 months old. In either case, that setup is precisely why the Devs need to look at the blaster balance. It is mor powerful in a general sort of way than the Heavy Blaster setup, but I can only say that I have never ever failed agaisnt a dura-Thorax. But this is because I am rather good at identifying guns by look-at, this means I can easily keep out of range. - EVE is sick. |
 Lorth |
Posted - 2005.06.18 20:52:00 -
[64] If your going to fit a plate, I would say go with 150/125mm's rather then blasters. You'll be fairly slow and the extra range will help. Not to mention that many intys will often stay out side of web range, or just inside, and blasters will do you no good then. I perfer a heavy electron II set up my self. Mostly because I have cruiser 5, and refuse to waste a bonus. I have often went with only a thermal hardener, rather then adaptive nano's. Mostly because in the days I was flying one, you really only saw amar and caldarie ships in PVP. I'd run from torp spammers, and attack the geddons. |
 Lorth Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2005.06.18 20:52:00 -
[65] If your going to fit a plate, I would say go with 150/125mm's rather then blasters. You'll be fairly slow and the extra range will help. Not to mention that many intys will often stay out side of web range, or just inside, and blasters will do you no good then. I perfer a heavy electron II set up my self. Mostly because I have cruiser 5, and refuse to waste a bonus. I have often went with only a thermal hardener, rather then adaptive nano's. Mostly because in the days I was flying one, you really only saw amar and caldarie ships in PVP. I'd run from torp spammers, and attack the geddons. |
Lorth Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2005.06.18 20:52:00 -
[66] If your going to fit a plate, I would say go with 150/125mm's rather then blasters. You'll be fairly slow and the extra range will help. Not to mention that many intys will often stay out side of web range, or just inside, and blasters will do you no good then. I perfer a heavy electron II set up my self. Mostly because I have cruiser 5, and refuse to waste a bonus. I have often went with only a thermal hardener, rather then adaptive nano's. Mostly because in the days I was flying one, you really only saw amar and caldarie ships in PVP. I'd run from torp spammers, and attack the geddons. |
Hank |
Posted - 2005.06.18 22:49:00 -
[67]
light neutrons + 8 heavy drones > med beams II |
 Hank Caldari Provisions |
Posted - 2005.06.18 22:49:00 -
[68]
light neutrons + 8 heavy drones > med beams II |
Hank Caldari Provisions |
Posted - 2005.06.18 22:49:00 -
[69]
light neutrons + 8 heavy drones > med beams II |
DaHeaVYFo |
Posted - 2005.06.19 00:32:00 -
[70] setup I fly with is: 5 Light Neutron blaster II's (light guns to put on a heavy tank) 1Mwd, 1 web, 1x 20k scrambler Tank: 2 x Small armor repper II 1 x Enegergised adaptive nanowhatever II (the 20% to all resistances) 1 x Explosive hardner 1 x 1600mm plate Oh and the Thorax is a Drone boat, don't forget that! Luance, it's better to keep at range with a rax on missions! Try the 150mm fittings stated above here, and yes that armor plate to keep you alive. It's gonna take you some training time before u fly that thing into mayham. But I <3 the rax ;) Go rails, not blasters, and keep at range! I've recently tried this setup on a Lvl3 Damsel in distress mission for a laugh, I completed it, with about 95% structure ^^  )"Ot rint, rint terrin" |
 DaHeaVYFo Gallente Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team |
Posted - 2005.06.19 00:32:00 -
[71] setup I fly with is: 5 Light Neutron blaster II's (light guns to put on a heavy tank) 1Mwd, 1 web, 1x 20k scrambler Tank: 2 x Small armor repper II 1 x Enegergised adaptive nanowhatever II (the 20% to all resistances) 1 x Explosive hardner 1 x 1600mm plate Oh and the Thorax is a Drone boat, don't forget that! Luance, it's better to keep at range with a rax on missions! Try the 150mm fittings stated above here, and yes that armor plate to keep you alive. It's gonna take you some training time before u fly that thing into mayham. But I <3 the rax ;) Go rails, not blasters, and keep at range! I've recently tried this setup on a Lvl3 Damsel in distress mission for a laugh, I completed it, with about 95% structure ^^ ) |
DaHeaVYFo Gallente Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team |
Posted - 2005.06.19 00:32:00 -
[72] setup I fly with is: 5 Light Neutron blaster II's (light guns to put on a heavy tank) 1Mwd, 1 web, 1x 20k scrambler Tank: 2 x Small armor repper II 1 x Enegergised adaptive nanowhatever II (the 20% to all resistances) 1 x Explosive hardner 1 x 1600mm plate Oh and the Thorax is a Drone boat, don't forget that! Luance, it's better to keep at range with a rax on missions! Try the 150mm fittings stated above here, and yes that armor plate to keep you alive. It's gonna take you some training time before u fly that thing into mayham. But I <3 the rax ;) Go rails, not blasters, and keep at range! I've recently tried this setup on a Lvl3 Damsel in distress mission for a laugh, I completed it, with about 95% structure ^^ ) |
Maxine Stirner |
Posted - 2005.06.19 00:41:00 -
[73] So long as you are rescuing lvl 2 Damsels, you are better off getting a Celestis and fitting a single rocket launcher with some defenders. A Tristan with the same will also perform admirably. Alternatively, get some rails and see if you can snipe from at least 25-30km. Missile launchers from both turrets and npcs are generally quite nasty in my experience, but mostly just because they often get a hefty damage multiplier. Aside from the defender missiles, the rest of your setup really doesn't matter much. The npcs will die eventually. Locking Times & Evil Asteroids |
 Maxine Stirner Gallente Doomheim |
Posted - 2005.06.19 00:41:00 -
[74] So long as you are rescuing lvl 2 Damsels, you are better off getting a Celestis and fitting a single rocket launcher with some defenders. A Tristan with the same will also perform admirably. Alternatively, get some rails and see if you can snipe from at least 25-30km. Missile launchers from both turrets and npcs are generally quite nasty in my experience, but mostly just because they often get a hefty damage multiplier. Aside from the defender missiles, the rest of your setup really doesn't matter much. The npcs will die eventually. |
Maxine Stirner Gallente Doomheim |
Posted - 2005.06.19 00:41:00 -
[75] So long as you are rescuing lvl 2 Damsels, you are better off getting a Celestis and fitting a single rocket launcher with some defenders. A Tristan with the same will also perform admirably. Alternatively, get some rails and see if you can snipe from at least 25-30km. Missile launchers from both turrets and npcs are generally quite nasty in my experience, but mostly just because they often get a hefty damage multiplier. Aside from the defender missiles, the rest of your setup really doesn't matter much. The npcs will die eventually. |
Dcap |
Posted - 2005.06.19 19:41:00 -
[76] I have a rax which was set up with the trad long range 4*250 rails + 1 Dual 150 rail however I got creamed doing certain lvl 2 missions in dead space where u went up against drones with top speeds of 1 or 2K m/s. Sniping is nice and safe until you are surrounded with drones kicking s**t out of you. So I am currently experimenting with the Blasterax setup. If anyone has any comments on techniques for drone missions with either the long or short range setups it would be preciated. Good Hunting DCap I'm a miner, is that why I keep digging my own grave? |
 Dcap Gallente British Space Corporation |
Posted - 2005.06.19 19:41:00 -
[77] I have a rax which was set up with the trad long range 4*250 rails + 1 Dual 150 rail however I got creamed doing certain lvl 2 missions in dead space where u went up against drones with top speeds of 1 or 2K m/s. Sniping is nice and safe until you are surrounded with drones kicking s**t out of you. So I am currently experimenting with the Blasterax setup. If anyone has any comments on techniques for drone missions with either the long or short range setups it would be preciated. Good Hunting DCap My comments and views are my own and I don't speak on behalf of British Space Corporation. |
Dcap Gallente British Space Corporation |
Posted - 2005.06.19 19:41:00 -
[78] I have a rax which was set up with the trad long range 4*250 rails + 1 Dual 150 rail however I got creamed doing certain lvl 2 missions in dead space where u went up against drones with top speeds of 1 or 2K m/s. Sniping is nice and safe until you are surrounded with drones kicking s**t out of you. So I am currently experimenting with the Blasterax setup. If anyone has any comments on techniques for drone missions with either the long or short range setups it would be preciated. Good Hunting DCap My comments and views are my own and I don't speak on behalf of British Space Corporation. |
Ris Dnalor |
Posted - 2005.06.20 03:30:00 -
[79]
If you're truly wanting to fly a Thorax as it was meant to be flown, stop chasing npc's & fight a player ;) -- Jump Drive Operation / Rank 5 / SP: 1280000 of 1280000 |
 Ris Dnalor Minmatar Sebiestor tribe |
Posted - 2005.06.20 03:30:00 -
[80]
If you're truly wanting to fly a Thorax as it was meant to be flown, stop chasing npc's & fight a player ;) -- Talking in Circles is more dizzying than walking in them... Tralala |
Ris Dnalor Minmatar Sebiestor tribe |
Posted - 2005.06.20 03:30:00 -
[81]
If you're truly wanting to fly a Thorax as it was meant to be flown, stop chasing npc's & fight a player ;) -- Talking in Circles is more dizzying than walking in them... Tralala |
Hakzuzu |
Posted - 2005.06.20 05:07:00 -
[82] Or you could forget about fighting with blasters. I can solo every lvl3 mission with rails...actually some are easier in my thorax than my ferox...which really surprised me. From what I see, lvl2 missions are doable with blasters but not lvl3....am I wrong? H |
 Hakzuzu |
Posted - 2005.06.20 05:07:00 -
[83] Or you could forget about fighting with blasters. I can solo every lvl3 mission with rails...actually some are easier in my thorax than my ferox...which really surprised me. From what I see, lvl2 missions are doable with blasters but not lvl3....am I wrong? H |
Hakzuzu |
Posted - 2005.06.20 05:07:00 -
[84] Or you could forget about fighting with blasters. I can solo every lvl3 mission with rails...actually some are easier in my thorax than my ferox...which really surprised me. From what I see, lvl2 missions are doable with blasters but not lvl3....am I wrong? H |
samuel222 |
Posted - 2005.10.06 18:02:00 -
[85] my current loadout is: 4x250mm 'scout' rails 1xdual 150mm (if they got too close) 1x webby(with this i can hit on the 250's up to 5 km) 1x 10mn mwd 1x med shield booster 2 4x reactor control 1 1x med armor rep and can someone tell me why rails are completely useless unless stood still please |
 samuel222 Amarr Order of New Blood |
Posted - 2005.10.06 18:02:00 -
[86] my current loadout is: 4x250mm 'scout' rails 1xdual 150mm (if they got too close) 1x webby(with this i can hit on the 250's up to 5 km) 1x 10mn mwd 1x med shield booster 2 4x reactor control 1 1x med armor rep and can someone tell me why rails are completely useless unless stood still please ___________________________ Now thats a face for radio! |
samuel222 Amarr Order of New Blood |
Posted - 2005.10.06 18:02:00 -
[87] my current loadout is: 4x250mm 'scout' rails 1xdual 150mm (if they got too close) 1x webby(with this i can hit on the 250's up to 5 km) 1x 10mn mwd 1x med shield booster 2 4x reactor control 1 1x med armor rep and can someone tell me why rails are completely useless unless stood still please ___________________________ Now thats a face for radio! |
Justin Cody |
Posted - 2005.10.06 18:07:00 -
[88] Thats due to the tracking of rails. Since they are long range weapons rails have worse tracking than their blaster cousins which have excellent tracking (though it could still use a bit of a boost). "Ill armed and half starved, they were still desperate men, to whom danger had lost all fears: for what was death that they should shun it to cling to such a life as theirs?"--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle |
 Justin Cody Caldari The Priory Shroud Of Darkness |
Posted - 2005.10.06 18:07:00 -
[89] Thats due to the tracking of rails. Since they are long range weapons rails have worse tracking than their blaster cousins which have excellent tracking (though it could still use a bit of a boost). Remind people that profit is the difference between revenue and expense. This makes you look smart. Scott Adams |
Justin Cody Caldari The Priory Shroud Of Darkness |
Posted - 2005.10.06 18:07:00 -
[90] Thats due to the tracking of rails. Since they are long range weapons rails have worse tracking than their blaster cousins which have excellent tracking (though it could still use a bit of a boost). Remind people that profit is the difference between revenue and expense. This makes you look smart. Scott Adams |
Resin Kadir |
Posted - 2005.10.06 18:39:00 -
[91] Using a permanent close rnage setup for varying situations isn't smart when you aren't using missiles. Problem is, you can be held down by fast close range targets or even fast targets outside web range while longer range enemys wail on you. And although drones provide some compensence, they can't aways save you from that one occasion where you go through a warp gate and wind up in the middile of a small fleet. I tried a blaster enyo and wound up withone frigate circling me at 8km with web and scrambler on me and I had 1 drone to work on him for me. Even with a web on him, npc have unlimited mwd and in complex they are a little tougher. But that was lvl 3 complex. _________________________________________ Shoot Squelch first, it was his idea! |
 Resin Kadir Lexx Corp |
Posted - 2005.10.06 18:39:00 -
[92] Using a permanent close rnage setup for varying situations isn't smart when you aren't using missiles. Problem is, you can be held down by fast close range targets or even fast targets outside web range while longer range enemys wail on you. And although drones provide some compensence, they can't aways save you from that one occasion where you go through a warp gate and wind up in the middile of a small fleet. I tried a blaster enyo and wound up withone frigate circling me at 8km with web and scrambler on me and I had 1 drone to work on him for me. Even with a web on him, npc have unlimited mwd and in complex they are a little tougher. But that was lvl 3 complex. |
Resin Kadir Lexx Corp |
Posted - 2005.10.06 18:39:00 -
[93] Using a permanent close rnage setup for varying situations isn't smart when you aren't using missiles. Problem is, you can be held down by fast close range targets or even fast targets outside web range while longer range enemys wail on you. And although drones provide some compensence, they can't aways save you from that one occasion where you go through a warp gate and wind up in the middile of a small fleet. I tried a blaster enyo and wound up withone frigate circling me at 8km with web and scrambler on me and I had 1 drone to work on him for me. Even with a web on him, npc have unlimited mwd and in complex they are a little tougher. But that was lvl 3 complex. |
xyeLz |
Posted - 2005.11.30 14:55:00 -
[94] Edited by: xyeLz on 30/11/2005 14:56:11 I'm novice so my skills aren't great but I liked my setup. HI SLOTS: 3x250mm Prototype I Gauss Guns or Compressed Coil 2x150mm Prototype I Gauss Guns or Compressed Coil I use Antimatter Charge M because I like to have some range as well as being able to hit at 7000m. You get about 15km range with Antimatter. MEDIUM SLOTS: 1xMedium Shield Booster II 1xCold-Air Gas Arcjet Thruster or Afterburner 1xCap Recharger I LOW SLOTS: 2x200mm Rolled Tungsten Plates 1xQuantum Co-Processor I (Co-Processor II's are better if you can get your hands on them, like I said, I'm not skilled) Which leaves 2 slots open on low for whatever you want. Let me know if you like it, I'm actually gonna resuit my Thorax soon. I just got enough skills for a Brutix but I don't have enough money to fit it :( still need about 20mill ISK. If you wanna helpout my Eve Character is xyeLz :D Let me know if you like the setup! |
 xyeLz |
Posted - 2005.11.30 14:55:00 -
[95] Edited by: xyeLz on 30/11/2005 14:56:11 I'm novice so my skills aren't great but I liked my setup. HI SLOTS: 3x250mm Prototype I Gauss Guns or Compressed Coil 2x150mm Prototype I Gauss Guns or Compressed Coil I use Antimatter Charge M because I like to have some range as well as being able to hit at 7000m. You get about 15km range with Antimatter. MEDIUM SLOTS: 1xMedium Shield Booster II 1xCold-Air Gas Arcjet Thruster or Afterburner 1xCap Recharger I LOW SLOTS: 2x200mm Rolled Tungsten Plates 1xQuantum Co-Processor I (Co-Processor II's are better if you can get your hands on them, like I said, I'm not skilled) Which leaves 2 slots open on low for whatever you want. Let me know if you like it, I'm actually gonna resuit my Thorax soon. I just got enough skills for a Brutix but I don't have enough money to fit it :( still need about 20mill ISK. If you wanna helpout my Eve Character is xyeLz :D Let me know if you like the setup! |
xyeLz |
Posted - 2005.11.30 14:55:00 -
[96] Edited by: xyeLz on 30/11/2005 14:56:11 I'm novice so my skills aren't great but I liked my setup. HI SLOTS: 3x250mm Prototype I Gauss Guns or Compressed Coil 2x150mm Prototype I Gauss Guns or Compressed Coil I use Antimatter Charge M because I like to have some range as well as being able to hit at 7000m. You get about 15km range with Antimatter. MEDIUM SLOTS: 1xMedium Shield Booster II 1xCold-Air Gas Arcjet Thruster or Afterburner 1xCap Recharger I LOW SLOTS: 2x200mm Rolled Tungsten Plates 1xQuantum Co-Processor I (Co-Processor II's are better if you can get your hands on them, like I said, I'm not skilled) Which leaves 2 slots open on low for whatever you want. Let me know if you like it, I'm actually gonna resuit my Thorax soon. I just got enough skills for a Brutix but I don't have enough money to fit it :( still need about 20mill ISK. If you wanna helpout my Eve Character is xyeLz :D Let me know if you like the setup! |
Himo Amasacia |
Posted - 2005.11.30 15:00:00 -
[97] Can I just say I Mine in my thorax? Thank you  |
 Himo Amasacia Minmatar Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion |
Posted - 2005.11.30 15:00:00 -
[98] Can I just say I Mine in my thorax? Thank you "Constant practice devoted to one subject often outdoes both intelligence and skill." -Cicero "Genius may have it's limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - Elbert Hubbard |
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion |
Posted - 2005.11.30 15:00:00 -
[99] Can I just say I Mine in my thorax? Thank you "Constant practice devoted to one subject often outdoes both intelligence and skill." -Cicero "Genius may have it's limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - Elbert Hubbard |
Mosaic Artefact |
Posted - 2005.11.30 15:42:00 -
[100] Meowcat i will 1v1 you. convo me ingame and we can meet up. with med electron T2s u cant beat singularity raxs with plates atm. ive tried and tested it and u cant win except vs noobs.after path med guns on rax is gonna pwn but ATM due to 8 heavys u just cant tank it long enough with med guns to beat thru 4+k armour. I had ur mentality at one stage untill i lost my rax 3 tmes vs younger chars in plated raxs :(. i use electron T2s on my deimos tho and it R teh pwnz0r lol! /emote cuddles and huggles his deimos from hell --------------------------------------- (\_/) (X.X) _ : (><) This was bunny. I ripped the head of bunny along with its spinal cord. Muahaha |
 Mosaic Artefact Gallente Aliastra |
Posted - 2005.11.30 15:42:00 -
[101] Meowcat i will 1v1 you. convo me ingame and we can meet up. with med electron T2s u cant beat singularity raxs with plates atm. ive tried and tested it and u cant win except vs noobs.after path med guns on rax is gonna pwn but ATM due to 8 heavys u just cant tank it long enough with med guns to beat thru 4+k armour. I had ur mentality at one stage untill i lost my rax 3 tmes vs younger chars in plated raxs :(. i use electron T2s on my deimos tho and it R teh pwnz0r lol! /emote cuddles and huggles his deimos from hell |
Mosaic Artefact Gallente Aliastra |
Posted - 2005.11.30 15:42:00 -
[102] Meowcat i will 1v1 you. convo me ingame and we can meet up. with med electron T2s u cant beat singularity raxs with plates atm. ive tried and tested it and u cant win except vs noobs.after path med guns on rax is gonna pwn but ATM due to 8 heavys u just cant tank it long enough with med guns to beat thru 4+k armour. I had ur mentality at one stage untill i lost my rax 3 tmes vs younger chars in plated raxs :(. i use electron T2s on my deimos tho and it R teh pwnz0r lol! /emote cuddles and huggles his deimos from hell |
FlyinFish Shriker |
Posted - 2005.12.19 04:01:00 -
[103] well, old thread resurect(since it's on the ship setup stick). Now we only have 5 med drones instead of heavy. that's quite a bit of damage nerf. Plus, with the increased PG, are heavy blasters in favor now? ------------------------------------------- "Death is just the beginning..." |
 FlyinFish Shriker Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2005.12.19 04:01:00 -
[104] well, old thread resurect(since it's on the ship setup stick). Now we only have 5 med drones instead of heavy. that's quite a bit of damage nerf. Plus, with the increased PG, are heavy blasters in favor now? ------------------------------------------- "Death is just the beginning..." |
FlyinFish Shriker Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2005.12.19 04:01:00 -
[105] well, old thread resurect(since it's on the ship setup stick). Now we only have 5 med drones instead of heavy. that's quite a bit of damage nerf. Plus, with the increased PG, are heavy blasters in favor now? ------------------------------------------- "Death is just the beginning..." |
Darpz |
Posted - 2005.12.19 04:11:00 -
[106]
with the boost to medium drones, + tech 2 you got almost equal damamge to the old 8 heavys and with the boost to grid I like heavy ion IIs with a Medium Rep and 3 hard tank
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 Darpz Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet |
Posted - 2005.12.19 04:11:00 -
[107]
with the boost to medium drones, + tech 2 you got almost equal damamge to the old 8 heavys and with the boost to grid I like heavy ion IIs with a Medium Rep and 3 hard tank |
Darpz Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet |
Posted - 2005.12.19 04:11:00 -
[108]
with the boost to medium drones, + tech 2 you got almost equal damamge to the old 8 heavys and with the boost to grid I like heavy ion IIs with a Medium Rep and 3 hard tank |
 Ryoko Ketsuni |
Posted - 2007.01.03 07:08:00 -
[109]
That sounds pretty right. I can chew through lvl 2 missions in a blaster rax with 5 T2med drones, but as soon as i get to lvl 3 missions i tend to suck because my drones are the only thing doing damage. |
Ryoko Ketsuni |
Posted - 2007.01.03 07:08:00 -
[110]
That sounds pretty right. I can chew through lvl 2 missions in a blaster rax with 5 T2med drones, but as soon as i get to lvl 3 missions i tend to suck because my drones are the only thing doing damage. |
 Arushia Nova Inc. |
Posted - 2007.01.05 08:31:00 -
[111]
Or in Ryoko Ketsuni's case, 2 years old. Can we get a lock here? ---- I accept that this post reflects upon my corp, even if I claim it does not. |
 goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated Free Trade Coalition |
Posted - 2007.01.05 10:18:00 -
[112]For missions i would use rails and rat specific resistance amps,uhhh never flew the thorax before but this is a general lowslot loadout. 1 to repping 2 to resistance 2 to damage,although if your having too much trouble with tanking swap one damage for a resistance. Mids should look like 1ab(cant use mwds in deadspace)2 cap rechargers. Highs should be all rails. But remember i dont fly thoraxes... __________________________________________ Yes it is great being amarr. |
 MrLobster Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn |
Posted - 2007.01.30 11:04:00 -
[113] Carrying on with the necro theme... Swap to a brutix or Myrmidon, it makes lvl 3's easy, and using the Myrmidon, you can prob do some lvl 4's. ______ |
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