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Phor Um Panala	Posted - 2011.05.08 20:08:00 - [1] Edited by: Phor Um Panala on 08/05/2011 20:08:31 Set up a real donation center if you want to do this stuff so bad. This blatant scam you guys pull is bull****.
Corina's Bodyguard	Posted - 2011.05.08 20:29:00 - [2] Originally by: Phor Um Panala Edited by: Phor Um Panala on 08/05/2011 20:08:31 Set up a real donation center if you want to do this stuff so bad. This blatant scam you guys pull is bull****. CCP is doing nothing to PLEX prices in game. PLEX is 100% controlled by the players. What they are doing is not a scam in any sense of the word.
Cosmoes Minmatar	Posted - 2011.05.08 20:45:00 - [3] Edited by: Cosmoes on 08/05/2011 20:55:35 Originally by: Corina's Bodyguard Originally by: Phor Um Panala Edited by: Phor Um Panala on 08/05/2011 20:08:31 Set up a real donation center if you want to do this stuff so bad. This blatant scam you guys pull is bull**. CCP is doing nothing to PLEX prices in game. PLEX is 100% controlled by the players. What they are doing is not a scam in any sense of the word. qen p6-7 Quote:** With a growing PLEX market (PLEX is the item with the highest trade value on the EVE market on any given day) and its function of facilitating the exchange of game time for ISK, players have become concerned about PLEX prices. PLEX is sold on an open market in a free exchange between players, just like most other items in EVE Online. Our core design principle of being hands-off from these markets also applies to the PLEX market. However, due to its complex function and potential impact on the velocity of money supply, the Central Bank might intervene in the PLEX market in order to curb inflation or avoid sudden deflation in the EVE economy. All such action would not be announced beforehand and only limited information would become public in the quarter after actions have been taken. These actions would aim at stabilization of the PLEX market and do not have a specific price target for PLEX or a specific inflation target for prices in EVE. ------------------- piccy
Corina's Bodyguard	Posted - 2011.05.08 20:50:00 - [4] You seem to have missed the most important word in there. MIGHT. They haven't yet, therefore, PLEX prices are still 100% controlled by the players.
Dalmont Delantee Gallente Shiloh Technologies	Posted - 2011.05.08 20:54:00 - [5] They also said they would warn us when they do. Take comfort in knowing that its probably some pimply faced twit, or 40 year old virgin, who gleens everytime mommy offfers to take them to needle point lessons
Aeronwen Carys Empire of Dust	Posted - 2011.05.08 21:39:00 - [6] OP is a bit thick really, isn't he?
Anne Arqui Minmatar Diamonds in the Rough Enterprises	Posted - 2011.05.08 21:58:00 - [7] Originally by: Corina's Bodyguard You seem to have missed the most important word in there. MIGHT. They haven't yet, therefore, PLEX prices are still 100% controlled by the players. How do you know? Do you realize that - hypothetically - every time CCP buys and destroys a PLEX in-game, they get a $17.50 profit?
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2011.05.08 22:03:00 - [8] Originally by: Anne Arqui Originally by: Corina's Bodyguard You seem to have missed the most important word in there. MIGHT. They haven't yet, therefore, PLEX prices are still 100% controlled by the players. How do you know? Do you realize that - hypothetically - every time CCP buys and destroys a PLEX in-game, they get a $17.50 profit? yes if I pay 20$ to buy one of my own paintings, and then burn it, I made 20$ profit.
Aeronwen Carys Empire of Dust	Posted - 2011.05.08 22:03:00 - [9] Originally by: Anne Arqui Originally by: Corina's Bodyguard You seem to have missed the most important word in there. MIGHT. They haven't yet, therefore, PLEX prices are still 100% controlled by the players. How do you know? Do you realize that - hypothetically - every time CCP buys and destroys a PLEX in-game, they get a $17.50 profit? You do realise that that the only way a PLEX gets destroyed, is if someone is dumb enough to take it OUT of a station?
Anne Arqui Minmatar Diamonds in the Rough Enterprises	Posted - 2011.05.08 22:07:00 - [10] Originally by: MotherMoon Originally by: Anne Arqui Do you realize that - hypothetically - every time CCP buys and destroys a PLEX in-game, they get a $17.50 profit? yes if I pay 20$ to buy one of my own paintings, and then burn it, I made 20$ profit. Do you really not understand or are you just trolling?
Mr Kidd	Posted - 2011.05.08 22:08:00 - [11] Edited by: Mr Kidd on 08/05/2011 22:10:28 Originally by: Corina's Bodyguard You seem to have missed the most important word in there. MIGHT. They haven't yet, therefore, PLEX prices are still 100% controlled by the players. You're naive, right? The price of plex is the exclusive domain of CCP outside of the game. Inside the game, CCP's control is not exclusive but, nearly so. They only need to destroy, publicly, lots of plex to manipulate the market regardless if CCP admits to doing it or via a player account. Lets not forget they have the run of the game and can manufacture whatever circumstance they want. The only time plex price in game is 100% player controlled is when CCP is not manipulating it. CCP's constant "plex for whatever they feel like" is another manipulation of ingame price. Or haven't you realized that?
Adacia Calla Minmatar Firebird Squadron Terra-Incognita	Posted - 2011.05.08 22:09:00 - [12] Originally by: Aeronwen Carys Originally by: Anne Arqui Originally by: Corina's Bodyguard You seem to have missed the most important word in there. MIGHT. They haven't yet, therefore, PLEX prices are still 100% controlled by the players. How do you know? Do you realize that - hypothetically - every time CCP buys and destroys a PLEX in-game, they get a $17.50 profit? You do realise that that the only way a PLEX gets destroyed, is if someone is dumb enough to take it OUT of a station? A certain Kestrel with 74 PLEX in it comes to mind.
Shawna Gray Gallente	Posted - 2011.05.08 22:11:00 - [13] Originally by: Mr Kidd Originally by: Corina's Bodyguard You seem to have missed the most important word in there. MIGHT. They haven't yet, therefore, PLEX prices are still 100% controlled by the players. You're naive, right? The price of plex is the exclusive domain of CCP outside of the game. Inside the game, CCP's control is not exclusive but, nearly so. They only need to destroy, publicly, lots of plex to manipulate the market regardless if CCP admits to doing it or via a player account. Lets not forget they have the run of the game and can manufacture whatever circumstance they want. The only time plex price in game is 100% player controlled is when CCP is not manipulating it. You trained tinfoil hats to V?
Aeronwen Carys Empire of Dust	Posted - 2011.05.08 22:15:00 - [14] Originally by: Anne Arqui Edited by: Anne Arqui on 08/05/2011 22:08:23 Originally by: MotherMoon Originally by: Anne Arqui Do you realize that - hypothetically - every time CCP buys and destroys a PLEX in-game, they get a $17.50 profit? yes if I pay 20$ to buy one of my own paintings, and then burn it, I made 20$ profit. Do you really not understand or are you just trolling? Originally by: Aeronwen Carys You do realise that that the only way a PLEX gets destroyed, is if someone is dumb enough to take it OUT of a station? What about trashing it? If you are stupid enough to hit trash, instead of the much more obvious choice of "apply game time" then you deserve to lose your PLEX. Any other insightful comments you wish to add?
Jennifer Starling Imperial Navy Forum Patrol	Posted - 2011.05.08 22:18:00 - [15] Originally by: Mr Kidd Inside the game, CCP's control is not exclusive but, nearly so. There's just no way to prove or disprove this imo.
Aeronwen Carys Empire of Dust	Posted - 2011.05.08 22:18:00 - [16] Originally by: Adacia Calla Originally by: Aeronwen Carys Originally by: Anne Arqui Originally by: Corina's Bodyguard You seem to have missed the most important word in there. MIGHT. They haven't yet, therefore, PLEX prices are still 100% controlled by the players. How do you know? Do you realize that - hypothetically - every time CCP buys and destroys a PLEX in-game, they get a $17.50 profit? You do realise that that the only way a PLEX gets destroyed, is if someone is dumb enough to take it OUT of a station? A certain Kestrel with 74 PLEX in it comes to mind. This is even more stupid when its a known fact that a PLEX can be applied from any location in EVE. The guy moving those PLEX had absolutely no reason to do so.
Anne Arqui Minmatar Diamonds in the Rough Enterprises	Posted - 2011.05.08 22:22:00 - [17] Originally by: Aeronwen Carys If you are stupid enough to hit trash, instead of the much more obvious choice of "apply game time" then you deserve to lose your PLEX. Any other insightful comments you wish to add? You seem to miss the whole point. If a CCP employee buys a plex in game and destroys it instead of using it for gametime, CCP earns an amount of money worth 1 month of gametime, say $15. After all, somewhere someone doesn't use it instead of subscription. As CCP can create ISK at will this could get them a lot of money and it also increases the plex prices. Just a conspiracy theory I know, but CCP could get get some extra income this way.
Mr Kidd	Posted - 2011.05.08 22:25:00 - [18] Here is something else for you "plex is 100% player driven" believers. CCP has a motivation to increase ingame price of plex to outcompete with RMT. What better way to do it than the confiscate RMTer's plexes and then "donate" them to a charitable cause presumably to 1) lower their liability and 2) to earn charitable contribution credits?
Sarah Tilly	Posted - 2011.05.08 22:29:00 - [19] Originally by: Anne Arqui Originally by: Aeronwen Carys If you are stupid enough to hit trash, instead of the much more obvious choice of "apply game time" then you deserve to lose your PLEX. Any other insightful comments you wish to add? You seem to miss the whole point. If a CCP employee buys a plex in game and destroys it instead of using it for gametime, CCP earns an amount of money worth 1 month of gametime, say $15. After all, somewhere someone doesn't use it instead of subscription. As CCP can create ISK at will this could get them a lot of money and it also increases the plex prices. Just a conspiracy theory I know, but CCP could get get some extra income this way. All that does is price a real subscriber out of the market and cost them any following months that player may have played
Ayieka	Posted - 2011.05.08 22:30:00 - [20] ITS A CONSPURRICY
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.05.08 22:41:00 - [21] Originally by: Anne Arqui You seem to miss the whole point. People convert GTC to plex in order to sell them. They are buying an in-game item. Once someone has purchased a plex for ISK, the seller has in effect reached his/her end goal of converting cash to ISK. If the buyer of the plex then proceeds to:- A. Trash the plex. B. Lose the plex after being blown up in space. C. Get it destroyed in any other manner. Then all that is destroyed is an in-game item and all that is lost is ISK. But if we knew of said loss, we would all laugh and point. If the person who had converted the GTC to a plex, had some sort of mental break down and did A to C. Again if we knew of said loss, we would all laugh and point. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Aeronwen Carys Empire of Dust	Posted - 2011.05.08 22:44:00 - [22] Originally by: Anne Arqui Originally by: Aeronwen Carys If you are stupid enough to hit trash, instead of the much more obvious choice of "apply game time" then you deserve to lose your PLEX. Any other insightful comments you wish to add? You seem to miss the whole point. If a CCP employee buys a plex in game and destroys it instead of using it for gametime, CCP earns an amount of money worth 1 month of gametime, say $15. After all, somewhere someone doesn't use it instead of subscription. As CCP can create ISK at will this could get them a lot of money and it also increases the plex prices. Just a conspiracy theory I know, but CCP could get get some extra income this way. That is quite possibly the most stupid thing I've read outside of a tom gerard thread. well done you.
Aeronwen Carys Empire of Dust	Posted - 2011.05.08 22:48:00 - [23] Originally by: Mr Kidd Here is something else for you "plex is 100% player driven" believers. CCP has a motivation to increase ingame price of plex to outcompete with RMT. What better way to do it than the confiscate RMTer's plexes and then "donate" them to a charitable cause presumably to 1) lower their liability and 2) to earn charitable contribution credits? Hey, captain daftpants, what happens when the PLEX price gets too high? Oh thats right, people stop buying them, then what happens? Oh yeah, thats right people stop converting GTC to PLEX. Then what happens? Oh yeah, they go back back to RMT for their ISK. Try harder next time, your argument was poorly thought out.
Anne Arqui Minmatar Diamonds in the Rough Enterprises	Posted - 2011.05.08 22:49:00 - [24] Originally by: Aeronwen Carys That is quite possibly the most stupid thing I've read outside of a tom gerard thread. well done you. Whatever you say. I hope you do realize that the whole plex mechanic opens up the opportunity for a company to earn thousands extra $ a month, completely unnoticed. Which is a disturbing thought in itself.
Shawna Gray Gallente	Posted - 2011.05.08 22:52:00 - [25] Originally by: Anne Arqui Originally by: Aeronwen Carys That is quite possibly the most stupid thing I've read outside of a tom gerard thread. well done you. Whatever you say. I hope you do realize that the whole plex mechanic opens up the opportunity for a company to earn thousands extra $ a month, completely unnoticed. Which is a disturbing thought in itself. Its actually a money laundering operation for the CIA they set up to fund Area 51 located inside a dormant volcano on Iceland.
Psycarne Minmatar Guerrilla Tactics	Posted - 2011.05.08 22:59:00 - [26] Originally by: Shawna Gray Originally by: Mr Kidd Originally by: Corina's Bodyguard You seem to have missed the most important word in there. MIGHT. They haven't yet, therefore, PLEX prices are still 100% controlled by the players. You're naive, right? The price of plex is the exclusive domain of CCP outside of the game. Inside the game, CCP's control is not exclusive but, nearly so. They only need to destroy, publicly, lots of plex to manipulate the market regardless if CCP admits to doing it or via a player account. Lets not forget they have the run of the game and can manufacture whatever circumstance they want. The only time plex price in game is 100% player controlled is when CCP is not manipulating it. You trained tinfoil hats to V? Perhaps to level T20? ------------- Ar? Limp?
Aeronwen Carys Empire of Dust	Posted - 2011.05.08 22:59:00 - [27] Originally by: Anne Arqui Originally by: Aeronwen Carys That is quite possibly the most stupid thing I've read outside of a tom gerard thread. well done you. Whatever you say. I hope you do realize that the whole plex mechanic opens up the opportunity for a company to earn thousands extra $ a month, completely unnoticed. Which is a disturbing thought in itself. The only disturbing thing here is that you are allowed to post on these forums without adult or medical supervision.
ELECTR0FREAK Eye of God United Front Alliance	Posted - 2011.05.08 23:22:00 - [28] Originally by: Anne Arqui Originally by: Corina's Bodyguard You seem to have missed the most important word in there. MIGHT. They haven't yet, therefore, PLEX prices are still 100% controlled by the players. How do you know? Do you realize that every time CCP sells a PLEX, they get a $17.50 profit? Fixed. Why do they care what happens after the PLEX is purchased? They've got their money then. If CCP cares about anything, it's the rate at which PLEX are purchased. The irony is, CCP buying PLEX is healthy for the economy as it counters inflation and makes the ISK traded for PLEX worth more. Discoverer of the Original Missile Damage Formula
Copine Callmeknau Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams The KWFL Republic	Posted - 2011.05.08 23:40:00 - [29] Originally by: Aeronwen Carys Originally by: Anne Arqui Originally by: Aeronwen Carys That is quite possibly the most stupid thing I've read outside of a tom gerard thread. well done you. Whatever you say. I hope you do realize that the whole plex mechanic opens up the opportunity for a company to earn thousands extra $ a month, completely unnoticed. Which is a disturbing thought in itself. The only disturbing thing here is that you are allowed to post on these forums without adult or medical supervision. This -- Some people in this thread are tin-foil-pants on head ****ed. A hypothetical CCP account destroying plex bought in game earns them no more** than a std player buying plex and applying it to his account. The key difference ofc being that the CCP account would be using spawned ISK, injecting ISK directly into the economy, and therefore the last thing CCP would want to be doing. A far more believable conspiracy theory is that CCP tracks the location of every plex in game, then instamove DEVs in alpha BS to suicide gank those ships carrying dozens of plex. ...oh wait Stunning EVE Online Theme for PS3
Mr Kidd	Posted - 2011.05.09 00:20:00 - [30] Originally by: Shawna Gray You trained tinfoil hats to V? No, but I can certainly see the ability of CCP to manipulate the market and not somehow magically ignore that fact. Stick your head in the sand lately?

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