I'd really appreciate a PVE Legion fit for level 4's as my current fit isn't doing so well.

And if anyone has an incursion fit to share.

Thanks.

I'd really appreciate a PVE Legion fit for level 4's as my current fit isn't doing so well.

And if anyone has an incursion fit to share.

Thanks.

[Legion, Missions]
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Centum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink

Large Capacitor Battery II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
10MN Afterburner II

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
Medium Anti-Thermic Pump I

Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Legion Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers
Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

This will never ever hit a spider drone.

With navy multifrequency + tracking speed scripts I bed to differ chump

No one ever use the HML Legion? Its no Tengu but with skills and the right mods it can be a fun change.

Hmm. Don't think I like how well those missiles would fare against really small targets though. Could switch to 2 T2 rigor rigs and a T2 flare rig

[quote=Shereza]Hmm. Don't think I like how well those missiles would fare against really small targets though. Could switch to 2 T2 rigor rigs and a T2 flare rig

Bleh, yeah, point. Forgot about that.


[quote=Zhilia Mann][quote=Shereza]Also, ugh. L4 Legion.

[Legion, L4]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Federation Navy Co-Processor
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink

Corelum A-Type 10MN Afterburner
Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Gist A-Type EM Ward Field
Gist A-Type Thermic Dissipation Field
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II

Heavy Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Legion Defensive - Augmented Plating
Legion Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Legion Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector
Legion Propulsion - Chassis Optimization


Hammerhead II x5

Only problem with that setup, aside from the fact that it's a legion and using relatively "gank me now" modules, is that the rigs are overkill. The whole ship is cap-stable. You can make the tank (afterburner and booster) stable by using just T1 CCCs leaving the guns to cap you out of course, and doing 2 T2 CCC rigs and a shield EM rig will keep the tank stable and boost it as well. The problem with that, however, is that a shield resistance rig on an armor tanked setup, which you'll probably do later, is pretty useless. That's ignoring the boost in signature radius and the (minimal) effect it will have on damage taken. If a battleship can speed tank L4s moving at only 300m/s at best and with a 440 DPS tank then a T3 cruiser pushing 740m/s with a 370 DPS tank ought to be able to do it as well.

All in all were I to use a legion in L4s I'd use a build like that rather than trying to use some sort of gun (or HAM) based build, though in all fairness you could probably push a slightly cheaper HAM variant of that build through with nearly 87% of the raw DPS and against any NPC not weak to EM/thermal probably more effective DPS than the drone synthesis variant.

[Legion, L4 HAMs]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Corelum A-Type 10MN Afterburner
Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Gist A-Type EM Ward Field
Gist A-Type Thermic Dissipation Field

Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile
Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile
Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile
Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile
Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Legion Defensive - Augmented Plating
Legion Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Legion Offensive - Assault Optimization
Legion Propulsion - Chassis Optimization

Hmm. Don't think I like how well those missiles would fare against really small targets though. Could switch to 2 T2 rigor rigs and a T2 flare rig and upgrade one CPU to a FedNav variant to increase the rDPS->eDPS conversion I suppose, but if you get into a mission where you have to run the booster for any length you'll have issues after two minutes. On the flip side if you spring for 4 CalNav BCUs (or DG) you'll get a whopping 6.3% increase in rDPS *and* be able to use just two T1 CPU modules. Or you could spend even more money, put an even bigger "gank me now" flag over your head, fit a FN CPU, and have an extra low slot for something else like another propulsion mod as 8 CPU isn't much to work with on a shield-tanked ship.

I hate everything about both of these, they are way too shiny and they try to overcome the natural limitations of the hull by slamming as much overpriced hardware into it.

I'm sure you can do the job with this, but personally you'd be stupid to attempt it. I mean a guy would have to run 100s of missions to afford it in the first place.

HAMs for missions is stupid, you need range, ideally you want to be blapping targets +50 kms in L4s especially solo, you do not want them on top of you if you can avoid it. These demand a close engagement.

My advice, use a beam fit Apoc with an active tank thats got cap stability, use drones to kill the frigates that get close and blap everything else at range. If you want to or have the ISK, invest in one of each type of Deadspace Hardener and mix and match them for the mission, you only have to defend against two dmg types at any one time. Its not only more effective but its way cheaper. Heck, you can dual box Apocs fit this way and still be cheaper.