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Bluco Tuco	Posted - 2011.05.13 19:54:00 - [1] So I just started running Incursions, and really enjoyed them. Until these group of asshats, who call themselves sk33t fl33t showed up. They have no regard for any other fleet out there, they will just run into a site, even if another group has already claimed it. Its ours, we were there first. Does anyone else have this problem, or am I just bad luck and the fleet I am in gets targeted for site stealing.
sabre906	Posted - 2011.05.13 20:03:00 - [2] Originally by: Bluco Tuco So I just started running Incursions, and really enjoyed them. Until these group of asshats, who call themselves sk33t fl33t showed up. They have no regard for any other fleet out there, they will just run into a site, even if another group has already claimed it. Its ours, we were there first. Does anyone else have this problem, or am I just bad luck and the fleet I am in gets targeted for site stealing. I run one such fleet. Drake fleets don't deserve ncos. Faster the sites are done, faster new ones can spawn. No one gets to hog good sites. If you lose the site despite head start, bring more dps.
Isan'na Malicious Destruction	Posted - 2011.05.13 20:39:00 - [3] TBH, competition makes the Incursion sites more fun. At the high levels, it often comes down to who can warp in first and get established faster. So, if you're already in the site for a while, and STILL lose, you're doing it wrong. And if they warp in around the same time as you, that's fair competition. If you lose, don't cry, just throw out a GF in local and either try again or devise a new tactic...like bouncing off a planet or switching systems. Originally by: Bluco Tuco It's ours, we were there first. tb;dr - No.
Destamon Azure Freelancers	Posted - 2011.05.13 20:54:00 - [4] Originally by: Isan'na Originally by: Bluco Tuco It's ours, we were there first. tb;dr - No. TBH - This. If that site is really yours, then put up a TCU, bubble the entrance gates, and shoot anyone who comes in
Arazel Chainfire The Awakened Armada Infinite Conflux	Posted - 2011.05.13 23:15:00 - [5] Originally by: Bluco Tuco So I just started running Incursions, and really enjoyed them. Until these group of asshats, who call themselves sk33t fl33t showed up. They have no regard for any other fleet out there, they will just run into a site, even if another group has already claimed it. Its ours, we were there first. Does anyone else have this problem, or am I just bad luck and the fleet I am in gets targeted for site stealing. Ahh... you met skeet fleet. And discovered, as CCP intended, that other people can steal your sites. I do it too - i haven't flown with skeet fleet yet, though I've probably flown with every pilot in it. And I've stolen sites from them too. Now, if there is only 1-2 fleets insystem, I generally won't steal sites, and neither will skeet fleet. But when there are 4-5 fleets insystem... why should they wait for you to finish a site while they sit around waiting and not getting paid? Get over it, and if you want it to stop happening, bring more dps. There is a reason why no one likes drakes anymore. -Arazel
Daniel limb GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.05.14 00:23:00 - [6] Just shoot th...oh, right, hisec. I would fix this by moving to places where you can shoot them.
sabre906	Posted - 2011.05.14 01:25:00 - [7] Originally by: Daniel limb Just shoot th...oh, right, hisec. I would fix this by moving to places where you can shoot them. If he's in the kind of fleet whose site gets stolen despite headstart, shooting others probably isn't the best idea. Better just warp out.
whitie365	Posted - 2011.05.14 02:51:00 - [8] TBH SK33T FL33T doesnt use DSCAN so its like suprize ********* for the unfortunate fleet that we warp in on. oh and btw my name is whitie365 creater of the SK33T FL33T! have a nice day andrivuller
whitie365	Posted - 2011.05.14 02:53:00 - [9] and quit being so butt hurt
Corina's Bodyguard	Posted - 2011.05.14 03:30:00 - [10] Seriously... it isn't your incursion until you win the reward. So quit whining please.

Ifly Uwalk Caldari Concentrated Evil	Posted - 2011.05.14 06:38:00 - [11] Originally by: Bluco Tuco am I just bad luck Yes. Yes you are.
Adrie Atticus Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage	Posted - 2011.05.14 11:52:00 - [12] I love this logic of "I seemed like I was receiving the bacon so it must be mine and someone stole it!" flowing through here.
Kerfira Kerfira Corp	Posted - 2011.05.14 13:05:00 - [13] Edited by: Kerfira on 14/05/2011 13:06:47 Originally by: Bluco Tuco ...Its ours, we were there first... What's the problem then? If it's yours, you'll get the reward and LP! Note that the definition of 'yours' is made by the rules CCP has implemented, not what you THINK it is! I think you can be compared to a football player who, even though his team has scored 1 goal and the opposing team has scored 2, goes the the ref and blubbers that his team really should be declared the winner because they did something utterly irrelevant (but which he thinks is important)! Whining over the rules of a GAME is something of the most pathetic someone can do... Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.05.14 13:26:00 - [14] Originally by: Bluco Tuco another group has already claimed it. Its ours, we were there first. HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA No. No it's not yours. Quote: They have no regard for any other fleet out there, they will just run into a site Welcome to competitive PvE. 0/10, QQ, and all that noise. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Chea Panasty	Posted - 2011.05.14 14:58:00 - [15] out DPS the other fleet, they don't get paid, they'll probably stop wasting their time, "problem" solved
Shailei Caldari	Posted - 2011.05.14 18:48:00 - [16] sk33t sk33t bl4m!
SlikSherman	Posted - 2011.05.14 18:54:00 - [17] Sk33t Sk33t Bl4m!!!! 0/ Andre!!
Target Painter Minmatar	Posted - 2011.05.14 20:20:00 - [18] Originally by: Daniel limb Just shoot th...oh, right, hisec. I would fix this by moving to places where you can shoot them. Goonswarm actually decced one of the major incursion corps out there, so even in highsec you could shoot them. And any logis along with them in their fleets.
Katrina Oniseki Caldari 0rizen 0rizen Nation	Posted - 2011.05.14 20:20:00 - [19] .... sk33t sk33t ....
HardinSalvor	Posted - 2011.05.14 21:05:00 - [20] You can tell how 1337 sk33t fl33t are by all the numbers in the name. You're pretty much f**ked. I'd flame but I think that's been pretty well covered already.

Rocks Rock	Posted - 2011.05.15 00:24:00 - [21] Edited by: Rocks Rock on 15/05/2011 00:24:39 You have met some of the most immature incursion runners I have seen. That said I don't mind "site stealing" at all personally. Man up.
Tore Vest Gallente	Posted - 2011.05.15 00:46:00 - [22] We win some.. and loose some... Eaven sk33t fleet loose sometimes... And we say gf in local
Aenemah Wounds Inc.	Posted - 2011.05.15 02:53:00 - [23] Originally by: Rocks Rock Edited by: Rocks Rock on 15/05/2011 00:24:39 You have met some of the most immature incursion runners I have seen. Speculation. But thanks for coming. Define immature in said context?, also add how you reached this brilliant conclusion?, and then explain why should one give a damn f_ck about the crap my two previous questions have generated in your upcoming reply post. Originally by: Rocks Rock Man up. Just quoting, to OP's attention. Says it all tbh. But maybe quoting is immature aswell, eh? hinthintGather a fleet of the finest ships in game, learn what they're the most efficient at, and run your own. You'll soon find out that competition = fun! _ Veni, Vidi, Warpi. I came, I saw, I warped the hell out...
D'Mannin Black	Posted - 2011.05.15 06:45:00 - [24] Sk33t Sk33t BL4M!!!!
Mr Kidd	Posted - 2011.05.15 13:58:00 - [25] Originally by: Bluco Tuco So I just started running Incursions...group of asshats...showed up...we were there first. Ninja missioners?!? Oh the drama!
Templar Dane Amarrian Retribution	Posted - 2011.05.15 14:34:00 - [26] Quite an enjoyable thread. Butthurt carebear complains, antagonistic carebear rubs in the salt.
Fishsticks Fred	Posted - 2011.05.15 17:14:00 - [27] Originally by: HardinSalvor You can tell how 1337 sk33t fl33t are by all the numbers in the name. You're pretty much f**ked. I'd flame but I think that's been pretty well covered already. This basically sums it up.
Stick Cult	Posted - 2011.05.16 02:51:00 - [28] they stole our assault site today and took the civilians from it so we couldnt complete the site, and now the armor fcs have said we can attack the moms. thanks to the skeet fleet now we have 4 hour incursions again. ** THOSE GUYS, especialy there fc RIVIAL Originally by:** CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Henku	Posted - 2011.05.16 03:02:00 - [29] What all you people don't seem to realize, is that in sk33t we don't HAVE FCs. We're actually smart enough to not have someone telling us what to do and leading us around by the hand. So honestly...your tears taste like chocolate.
A'Brantox Foson Minmatar	Posted - 2011.05.16 03:19:00 - [30] Edited by: A''Brantox Foson on 16/05/2011 03:21:19 so your invincible carebear arena isn't perfect after all?.. I suggest you all get better ships, and start recruiting better pilots... stop going "err.. align... err... anchor.. errr errr" <--- thats why you lose lol fleets like sk33t just head in... add webs to all their BS... dont accept ravens, drakes <-- LOL, vanilla fits and its working as intended.. this is eve after all :) Jurgan Klinsman was here

GuyWithADotOnHisHead	Posted - 2011.05.16 03:23:00 - [31] Wow, and I didn't even think anyone did Incursions. Well, I had a dot on my head then CCCP decided we all needed new coupons. Nice work/thanks.
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2011.05.16 04:24:00 - [32] SK33T FL33t provides a penalty for failure. I get all blubbery when they beat me to my god-granted bacon, but I am really enjoying Incursions regardless. -- [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel]
Lady Go Diveher	Posted - 2011.05.16 10:01:00 - [33] Lemme guess... Drakes and Ravens with not a Ballistic Control Unit in sight? The site is yours when you applied more damage than the other guys. Total damage = time x DPS If they're in there for less time than you, then your DPS sucks ass boy. IMO any fleet joining the fight late and out damaging the other guys deserve twice the payout and a medal from CONCORD along the lines of "This capsuleer isn't a great big pansy and can fly a ship capable of hurting other ships within an hour."
Smagd Encina Technologies Namtz' aar K'in	Posted - 2011.05.16 10:07:00 - [34] TBH I like it when a gang warps in on a site I'm already doing. Cuts a few minutes from the time to finish it and they have yet to steal one from the gangs I'm in. Sleipnir <3
Ejit Amarr STD contractors	Posted - 2011.05.16 12:56:00 - [35] sk33t fl33t, They have number 3's in their name instead of letter E's, which makes them totally awesome, well endowed, and not at all emasculated by their mothers on a daily basis!
asmodian thorkrah	Posted - 2011.05.16 13:34:00 - [36] It's great how newer players/corps can get *****d over so easily, making the game even harder for new players to get involved. Well done CCP your logic previals. "Welcome to EVE have fun mining for the next 2 years until you can afford to buy a character with excellent skills and enough isk to buy a decent ship"
Lady Go Diveher	Posted - 2011.05.16 13:54:00 - [37] Originally by: asmodian thorkrah It's great how newer players/corps can get *****d over so easily, making the game even harder for new players to get involved. Well done CCP your logic previals. Congratulations, this has nothing to do with any of the above posts.
Ludus Lucrius	Posted - 2011.05.16 14:01:00 - [38] u win some, u lose some, cest la vie but in both cases u lose/win faster :-) "No Rest 4 d Wicked"
NightShadow X	Posted - 2011.05.16 14:20:00 - [39] Originally by: Lady Go Diveher Originally by: asmodian thorkrah It's great how newer players/corps can get *****d over so easily, making the game even harder for new players to get involved. Well done CCP your logic previals. Congratulations, this has nothing to do with any of the above posts. sure it does... And while I agree that competition is great(and fun)..nothing like a race in an incursion :) There are some players that are new at this game/incursions/combat, and want to get involved, but never get asked in incursion chat to join a fleet. They must make these so called "fail" fleets just to play the game they pay for. Should it be a requirement that they need to be around a year or so so that they possess the skills needed to fly a couple incursions? Hell, if these guys are so l33t, why not fly the numerous low/null incursions that never get touched by anybody (with a much higher payout I might add)...or right, that might be a dangerous challenge, rather than taking on some toons that have been around all of 2 months..... I say keep up the whole competition thing, I have had a few races with other fleets which ended in a gf in local....but if you jump in on some OBVIOUS new guys just checking stuff out....move on man, they will be there for a while anyways, and there are plenty other sites to clear and respawn. just sayin'
Fulmar Muse Caldari	Posted - 2011.05.16 15:00:00 - [40] Have to say; i'm enjoying incursions much than I thought I would, they get better with time, along withyour ability collectively to know what to shoot, and when to shoot it. Every FC has their own style, some prefer the exciting blitz for 8hrs, which is pretty fun tbh... competetion spices that up further. Some prefer to use low SP chars/incursion rookies as they are more immeadiatly available. I personally prefer the former, as your isk/wallet ratios are astounding when you knuckle down for a proper day of it. You're left with a blinky wallet at the end worth several billion isk, just from 1 incursion, although some are happy with just a few hundred mil. Overall it's pretty good, and am happy with the moaning, happy with the blitzers, and tbh happy with the griefers, cause last thing you want is a fortified isk making machine in eve ^^... otherwise it become Incursions Online... and that would be terrible. "Keep on doin what you doin, do it gud.. " Super fly]

Lady Go Diveher	Posted - 2011.05.16 15:24:00 - [41] Originally by: NightShadow X sure it does... And the alternative is, exactly? You can physically take part in incursion fleets on a very low SP character and still expect to complete the sites. It'll take longer, but then so do all things. You want CCP to invent something that characters of lower SP and skill can do equally well as players who have been in the game 5 years? Well good luck with that. (though mining pretty much does...) Having said that, it's pretty rare for incursion sites to be trespassed into, with the intention of out performing the fleet already there. Mostly for all the reasons OP has already been ridiculed for. No one was really saying "BWAHAHA noobs suck!! trololol!" but they were picking apart his "THIS WAS OUR INCURSION HOW DARE THEY!" attitude. What next, "THIS IS MY SALVA...." owait
NightShadow X	Posted - 2011.05.16 16:29:00 - [42] Originally by: Lady Go Diveher Originally by: NightShadow X sure it does... And the alternative is, exactly? You can physically take part in incursion fleets on a very low SP character and still expect to complete the sites. It'll take longer, but then so do all things. You want CCP to invent something that characters of lower SP and skill can do equally well as players who have been in the game 5 years? Well good luck with that. (though mining pretty much does...) Having said that, it's pretty rare for incursion sites to be trespassed into, with the intention of out performing the fleet already there. Mostly for all the reasons OP has already been ridiculed for. No one was really saying "BWAHAHA noobs suck!! trololol!" but they were picking apart his "THIS WAS OUR INCURSION HOW DARE THEY!" attitude. What next, "THIS IS MY SALVA...." owait fair enough :)
Levi Duke	Posted - 2011.05.18 02:34:00 - [43] First of all, Sk33t Fl33t is a product of BTL's constant, tiresome, failed "quest for political power". If you want to blame anyone for Sk33t's rogue attitude, blame the power hungry fc's that are trying gain a political foothold in the incursion community and don't care who's back they stab or toes they step on. As long as BTL and the armor fleets are trying to throw their weight around, Sk33t will be the brick wall they encounter. If you don't like competing for site's, then my advice is when you see a Sk33t fl33t on gate, find another gate. Sk33t Sk33t, crybabies.
whitie365	Posted - 2011.05.18 03:50:00 - [44] well if your armor ***s want to go to 4hr incursions then it means you wont be making isk at all :)
Ludus Lucrius	Posted - 2011.05.18 08:38:00 - [45] Edited by: Ludus Lucrius on 18/05/2011 08:38:23 4hr incursions ? Hell no ! Competition ? Hell yes ! U just have to pick ur battles and b ready to loose a few :-) "No Rest 4 d Wicked" (We fly armor)
HardinSalvor	Posted - 2011.05.18 10:07:00 - [46] Originally by: Levi Duke First of all, Sk33t Fl33t is a product of BTL's constant, tiresome, failed "quest for political power". If you want to blame anyone for Sk33t's rogue attitude, blame the power hungry fc's that are trying gain a political foothold in the incursion community and don't care who's back they stab or toes they step on. /me reaches for popcorn Go on...
Jill Antaris Imperial Academy	Posted - 2011.05.18 11:42:00 - [47] Originally by: whitie365 well if your armor *s want to go to 4hr incursions then it means you wont be making isk at all :) Um, no. Originally by:** Ludus Lucrius "No Rest 4 d Wicked" (We fly armor) o/ ---------------------- Nerf Lasers! Thay need far to less CPU and Grid to Fit. Still using not enught Cap and do far to mutch Damage. O wait... they allready did... =(
Bluco Tuco	Posted - 2011.05.18 19:45:00 - [48] For Chuck Norris's sake everyone, its still happening. We have an amazing fleet of Drakes, but we still get rick rolled at every corner. Please tell us what we are doing wrong, because we want to succeed in the Incursions!! Here is our generic Drake fitting, please tell me what you think! [Drake, Shield Incursion] Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Damage Control II Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Assault Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Fury Light Missile Large 'Atonement' I Ward Projector Medium Core Defence Field Purger II Medium Core Defence Field Purger II Medium Core Defence Field Purger II Light Shield Maintenance Bot I x5 Only helpful answers please, all you trolls need to leave us new players alone.
Phair Orqe	Posted - 2011.05.18 19:50:00 - [49] Obvious Troll is Obvious.
Katrina Oniseki Caldari 0rizen 0rizen Nation	Posted - 2011.05.18 21:42:00 - [50] What the **** Phair, you suck at character re-customization. You were actually good looking before. Now you just look like a repressed homosexual. CHANGE IT BACK TO THE HOTNESS.

Fishsticks Fred	Posted - 2011.05.18 21:48:00 - [51] Originally by: Katrina Oniseki What the **** Phair, you suck at character re-customization. You were actually good looking before. Now you just look like a repressed homosexual. CHANGE IT BACK TO THE HOTNESS. He aged. A lot.
Levi Duke	Posted - 2011.05.18 22:02:00 - [52] Originally by: HardinSalvor Originally by: Levi Duke First of all, Sk33t Fl33t is a product of BTL's constant, tiresome, failed "quest for political power". If you want to blame anyone for Sk33t's rogue attitude, blame the power hungry fc's that are trying gain a political foothold in the incursion community and don't care who's back they stab or toes they step on. /me reaches for popcorn Go on... Still dreaming of being Phattecia, eh Hardin?
Levi Duke	Posted - 2011.05.18 22:05:00 - [53] Originally by: HardinSalvor /me reaches for popcorn Go ahead and eat your popcorn, while you watch us eat your sites.
Covert Kitty Amarr ISK Solutions SRS.	Posted - 2011.05.18 22:08:00 - [54] Edited by: Covert Kitty on 18/05/2011 22:08:36
Malartacha Foram Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2011.05.18 22:40:00 - [55] Originally by: Lady Go Diveher "This capsuleer isn't a great big pansy and can fly a ship capable of hurting other ships within an hour." Congratulations, this has nothing to do with any of the above posts. Derp, derp. ---- I are pirate!
Zaara Arran	Posted - 2011.05.18 22:42:00 - [56] The troll is strong with this thread.
Tak149 Caldari	Posted - 2011.05.18 22:54:00 - [57] Originally by: Zaara Arran The troll is strong with this thread. And that's what makes it so delicious. Also, BTL's fail agreements with armor don't help anyone.
Fishsticks Fred	Posted - 2011.05.18 23:04:00 - [58] Originally by: Tak149 Originally by: Zaara Arran The troll is strong with this thread. And that's what makes it so delicious. Also, BTL's fail agreements with armor don't help anyone. Well, it does allow incursions to stay up so we can keep farming sites, otherwise armor comes in and pops the mom.
Tak149 Caldari	Posted - 2011.05.18 23:14:00 - [59] Originally by: Fishsticks Fred Well, it does allow incursions to stay up so we can keep farming sites, otherwise armor comes in and pops the mom. Because they didn't throw a hissy fit and pop a mom because they had hurt feelings?
Smagd Encina Technologies Namtz' aar K'in	Posted - 2011.05.19 07:07:00 - [60] I'd just like to extend a "gf" to the sk33t fl33t who warped into an Assault in Klir yesterday together with us. You should stop using tags, too, if you want to win a DPS race... Following primary wastes precious missiles! ) Also lol at the Logistics pilots who kept us updated on white vs. yellow wrecks - you got nothing to do or something? ) Bonus feature: This may cause harm to a random member of either fleet once triggers get popped by wanton bloodthirstiness.

Shayden Caldari	Posted - 2011.05.19 09:09:00 - [61] Edited by: Shayden on 19/05/2011 10:04:36 Skeet fleet is just evolution. In any game ive played there will always be a group of people that will farm that site even harder, adapt to mechanics that further, invest money/time that more. Its a natural process of man's strive to be the best. At least for my part it is. Skeet fleet was created in mid april after a group of "farmers" where hitting up the same fleets everytime we logged in. The same fleet was going 24/7 and the move to make a group for these people was natural and whitie365 did the right thing. He gave us a home. Now you may not know who i am, but i am only 6 months old incursion pilot and i started out just like anyone else with standard ship and not alot of know how on incursions. The fleets i started to fly with was lead by Hardin,Phattecia and Daniel Jackson. These 3 guys took us ppl in and gave us a great understandment of how incursions works and i can thank much of my knowledge to these guys. Everytime i flew with these fleets i had a great time. Now what is my point with this? Theres a need for both kind of fleets in incursions. There always will be. No one can put in the same amount of time, isk or commitment for this game. We all vary. The reason why i fly with skeet is because ive now reached the stage where i want to see just how fast can we kill these rats, just how fast can we do this and that site. Just how much damage can whitie ****ing do. It is part of who i am. Now for the site stealing i must back whitie up. Because of this drive we have in skeet fleet we do actually not use time to scan down site before we enter. If the site is up, we warp to it and hit gate instantly. For the times we then meet a fleet already started on the site, we take it as a challenge to see if we can beat them to the finish line. It has nothing to do with stealing. The fleet that delievers the most damage wins not the fleet that enters site first. Its competition and i believe it is healthy as it should push you to do your best, while we do ours. In hopes of room for us all. Ill see you out there.. -Shayden/Shaiden/Shajden p.s lots of love to hardin,dj,delta,phat, whitie, frost sind shailei, kat slik and rest of ppl i fly with
Trader Hansen Failure Assured	Posted - 2011.05.19 10:05:00 - [62] This is why I've never touched, and never will touch incursions. There is no reward for your effort unless you're in the dominant fleet. Even if you've dealt 49% of the DPS, you still get diddly squat for your efforts. And in high-sec, there's basically no recourse if another fleet muscles in. Welcome to EverQuest gameplay mechanics from 1999.
Ludus Lucrius	Posted - 2011.05.19 11:08:00 - [63] Edited by: Ludus Lucrius on 19/05/2011 11:08:46 Site compentition for us happens only from time to time, maybe only 4 out of 30 sites we actully have to fight for inside.The rest is up to fleet composition, skill, mobility, scouting and "luck" which happens to supply us usually with a stream of good sites (mostly NCOs, handfull of NMC, rarely any OTA thanks to fleets running and even specializing in OTAs). "No Rest 4 d Wicked"
Arazel Chainfire The Awakened Armada Infinite Conflux	Posted - 2011.05.19 13:00:00 - [64] Originally by: Ludus Lucrius Edited by: Ludus Lucrius on 19/05/2011 11:08:46 Site compentition for us happens only from time to time, maybe only 4 out of 30 sites we actully have to fight for inside.The rest is up to fleet composition, skill, mobility, scouting and "luck" which happens to supply us usually with a stream of good sites (mostly NCOs, handfull of NMC, rarely any OTA thanks to fleets running and even specializing in OTAs). F mining colonies - OTA's for the win. I don't want to waste my time in a slowass NMC... Plus OTA's have a chance of being horribly screwed up even if you run it perfectly, which just makes them more interesting. To be honest though, site stealing isn't really that common. I ran something like 50 sites in the past 2 days and only once was there competition. Of course... thats because we arrived on grid with skeet fleet and both of us decided to punch the gate at the same time. Vindi's really are better than NM in NCO's, though its debatable in the other two types of vans. -Arazel
Caretaking Sunofabitcch Quigglywobbl	Posted - 2011.05.19 15:16:00 - [65] thing is every1 if takes after sk33t fleet, they will nerf incursions... this is the beginning of the end of 80-100mil an hr + LP.... all the FCs who don't play this way will miss out on some serious billions... unless they pick it up now, which if they do, incursions will get a nerf. Stop supporting sk33t!! ^^.. do it now.. dont think about it!!!, pretend their methods aren't the best isk faucet outside of multiple tech moons!!!.... roll on my big ass vindicator!!
Privateeralliance Sucks	Posted - 2011.05.19 15:26:00 - [66] Caretaking makes a good point. Not only is it the end of the "pro" FCs making 30mil an hr and the creation of a whole new set of whinners.. but it's also the end of the current 100mil/hr incursions. You wait, next year after the rest of eve realize the money that can be made in them, CCP will nerf them heavy. I currently make more than most of null friends combined doing carebearing. I say to the 90% of FCs that think they're good, to start practicing the "dont tag, dont ask, just leeroy" ways. Because you will miss out on some serious isk if you don't, and you will look whinner, you will still use missile boats/LSE, and your logi will still use no links otherwise to help the 1500dps boats in your fleet tank with gank.
Ludus Lucrius	Posted - 2011.05.19 15:30:00 - [67] Or u can use a scout and find clear sites that u dont have to fight with anyone for, or at least fight without of handicap of being there 2nd :-)
A'Brantox Foson Minmatar	Posted - 2011.05.19 15:34:00 - [68] <3 Ludus' stealth bomber lol Jurgan Klinsman was here
Shailei Caldari	Posted - 2011.05.19 15:40:00 - [69] Edited by: Shailei on 19/05/2011 15:46:40 Edited by: Shailei on 19/05/2011 15:45:12 Edited by: Shailei on 19/05/2011 15:43:41 Edited by: Shailei on 19/05/2011 15:42:22 Edited by: Shailei on 19/05/2011 15:41:47 Originally by: Privateeralliance Sucks Edited by: Privateeralliance Sucks on 19/05/2011 15:35:55 Caretaking makes a good point. Not only is it the end of the "pro" FCs making 30mil an hr and the creation of a whole new set of whinners.. but it's also the end of the current 100mil/hr incursions. You wait, next year after the rest of eve realize the money that can be made in them, CCP will nerf them heavy. I currently make more than most of null friends combined doing carebearing. I say to the 90% of FCs that think they're good, to start practicing the "dont tag, dont ask, just leeroy" ways. Because you will miss out on some serious isk if you don't, and you will look whinner, you will still use missile boats/LSE, and your logi will still use no links to help the 1500dps boats in your fleet tank with gank. Dont accept any cynabols, dont accept phantasm.. u may as well head in with 8 members, because they do interfere with your isk/hr, dragging all the rats 20k out, past the OHd vindy web range. 3 logis is excessive... fit repping drones so if ** hits the fans, the BS have 8-12 seconds to get their tank on to ehlp who ever is dying (which they wont be, because your all thinking/working fast. remember eve is an RPG, you can get away with playing dark charecters, its way cooler. Highsec carebears remember you don't have to play the roll of Luke Skywalker!! miserable serious people... stop stressing!!!.. ITS ONLY A GAME ^^ Yep... 8-9 properly fitted faction BS's, plus a basi or two (total of 10-11; the 2nd basi really isn't needed with a good fleet), and sk33t sk33t bl4m!** 2-3min NCO's, 4-5min OTA's, and let [LOL!]Armor[/LOL!] clean up the NMC's. Less Tengu = better. Its the new Drake!
Ludus Lucrius	Posted - 2011.05.19 15:43:00 - [70] Luke Skywalker ? Hell no ! Han Solo, now that's much better. :-)

Ludus Lucrius	Posted - 2011.05.19 15:51:00 - [71] Edited by: Ludus Lucrius on 19/05/2011 15:52:06 Loled on only NMCs for armor :-) u should check ur sources m8.
Arazel Chainfire The Awakened Armada Infinite Conflux	Posted - 2011.05.19 16:02:00 - [72] Originally by: Caretaking Sunofabitcch Quigglywobbl thing is every1 if takes after sk33t fleet, they will nerf incursions... this is the beginning of the end of 80-100mil an hr + LP.... all the FCs who don't play this way will miss out on some serious billions... unless they pick it up now, which if they do, incursions will get a nerf. Stop supporting sk33t!! ^^.. do it now.. dont think about it!!!, pretend their methods aren't the best isk faucet outside of multiple tech moons!!!.... roll on my big ass vindicator!! Why would they nerf incursions? It already has a built in limit - a vanguard system can really only support about 3 fleets if they are rolling hard, and there are only what - 1-2 incursions up in highsec at any one time? And there are usually what? 3 vanguard systems per incursion? So you have a maximum of about 90-180 people at the optimal level running incursions at any one time. As you get above the 3 fleets/system, people start competing, start sitting idle, etc, and it works like a built in stopgap on the max isk/hr you can make. Also, it might force people to start moving up to assaults/HQ's, which are rarely run anymore... -Arazel
Privateeralliance Sucks	Posted - 2011.05.19 16:07:00 - [73] lol, NMC for armor ^^ no seriously if your doing mining sites when there's OTAs in system, your doing it wrong =D shame no1 reads the forums, but those people failfit anyways lol... so we will never win now where did i put my mic? oh yes now i remember... i stepped on it, trying to find my guitar... so I could endure the mind bumbing boredom of the phantasm fleet!... SERIOUSLY top flying em guys!!
Privateeralliance Sucks	Posted - 2011.05.19 16:10:00 - [74] Originally by: Arazel Chainfire Originally by: Caretaking Sunofabitcch Quigglywobbl thing is every1 if takes after sk33t fleet, they will nerf incursions... this is the beginning of the end of 80-100mil an hr + LP.... all the FCs who don't play this way will miss out on some serious billions... unless they pick it up now, which if they do, incursions will get a nerf. Stop supporting sk33t!! ^^.. do it now.. dont think about it!!!, pretend their methods aren't the best isk faucet outside of multiple tech moons!!!.... roll on my big ass vindicator!! Why would they nerf incursions? It already has a built in limit - a vanguard system can really only support about 3 fleets if they are rolling hard, and there are only what - 1-2 incursions up in highsec at any one time? And there are usually what? 3 vanguard systems per incursion? So you have a maximum of about 90-180 people at the optimal level running incursions at any one time. As you get above the 3 fleets/system, people start competing, start sitting idle, etc, and it works like a built in stopgap on the max isk/hr you can make. Also, it might force people to start moving up to assaults/HQ's, which are rarely run anymore... -Arazel get yourself into a 90mil/hr blitz fleet, thn watch nullsec/WHs become lame, lame lame lame... (for isk :P)
HardinSalvor	Posted - 2011.05.19 16:44:00 - [75] Originally by: Levi Duke Still dreaming of being Phattecia, eh Hardin? Would be good to have him back wistful eyes filled with longing. In the meantime, I do the best I can. Originally by: Levi Duke Go ahead and eat your popcorn, while you watch us eat your sites. Sites were fun the first time, but now they are almost as dull as ratting. Popcorn on the other hand never gets old.
Fishsticks Fred	Posted - 2011.05.19 18:14:00 - [76] Edited by: Fishsticks Fred on 19/05/2011 18:13:52 Originally by: HardinSalvor Originally by: Levi Duke Go ahead and eat your popcorn, while you watch us eat your sites. Sites were fun the first time, but now they are almost as dull as ratting. Popcorn on the other hand never gets old. How about popcorn and doing sites? Sites got boring a while ago, now you have to rely on fleet to keep you entertained. Sk33t does this too much, I've almost lost a few ships because I was laughing so hard I couldn't see...
Arazel Chainfire The Awakened Armada Infinite Conflux	Posted - 2011.05.19 18:24:00 - [77] Originally by: Privateeralliance Sucks Originally by: Arazel Chainfire Originally by: Caretaking Sunofabitcch Quigglywobbl thing is every1 if takes after sk33t fleet, they will nerf incursions... this is the beginning of the end of 80-100mil an hr + LP.... all the FCs who don't play this way will miss out on some serious billions... unless they pick it up now, which if they do, incursions will get a nerf. Stop supporting sk33t!! ^^.. do it now.. dont think about it!!!, pretend their methods aren't the best isk faucet outside of multiple tech moons!!!.... roll on my big ass vindicator!! Why would they nerf incursions? It already has a built in limit - a vanguard system can really only support about 3 fleets if they are rolling hard, and there are only what - 1-2 incursions up in highsec at any one time? And there are usually what? 3 vanguard systems per incursion? So you have a maximum of about 90-180 people at the optimal level running incursions at any one time. As you get above the 3 fleets/system, people start competing, start sitting idle, etc, and it works like a built in stopgap on the max isk/hr you can make. Also, it might force people to start moving up to assaults/HQ's, which are rarely run anymore... -Arazel get yourself into a 90mil/hr blitz fleet, thn watch nullsec/WHs become lame, lame lame lame... (for isk :P) I have... as a matter of fact, I usually am FCing them. That being said, now that I'm sitting on a few bil isk and nothing I actually want to spend that isk on, blitz fleets are kinda meh for me. I'll still run them, but I'm looking for a new/different challenge. -Arazel
Privateeralliance Sucks	Posted - 2011.05.19 19:12:00 - [78] Originally by: Arazel Chainfire Originally by: Privateeralliance Sucks Originally by: Arazel Chainfire Originally by: Caretaking Sunofabitcch Quigglywobbl thing is every1 if takes after sk33t fleet, they will nerf incursions... this is the beginning of the end of 80-100mil an hr + LP.... all the FCs who don't play this way will miss out on some serious billions... unless they pick it up now, which if they do, incursions will get a nerf. Stop supporting sk33t!! ^^.. do it now.. dont think about it!!!, pretend their methods aren't the best isk faucet outside of multiple tech moons!!!.... roll on my big ass vindicator!! Why would they nerf incursions? It already has a built in limit - a vanguard system can really only support about 3 fleets if they are rolling hard, and there are only what - 1-2 incursions up in highsec at any one time? And there are usually what? 3 vanguard systems per incursion? So you have a maximum of about 90-180 people at the optimal level running incursions at any one time. As you get above the 3 fleets/system, people start competing, start sitting idle, etc, and it works like a built in stopgap on the max isk/hr you can make. Also, it might force people to start moving up to assaults/HQ's, which are rarely run anymore... -Arazel get yourself into a 90mil/hr blitz fleet, thn watch nullsec/WHs become lame, lame lame lame... (for isk :P) I have... as a matter of fact, I usually am FCing them. That being said, now that I'm sitting on a few bil isk and nothing I actually want to spend that isk on, blitz fleets are kinda meh for me. I'll still run them, but I'm looking for a new/different challenge. -Arazel you would be wouldnt you ... i need the isk for my expensive PvP ships :) every penny towards my machariels and tengus... its money well spent, even if they only last 10miutes lol... also come and FC moar!!! :D
Levi Duke	Posted - 2011.05.19 21:00:00 - [79] Originally by: HardinSalvor Originally by: Levi Duke Still dreaming of being Phattecia, eh Hardin? Would be good to have him back wistful eyes filled with longing. In the meantime, I do the best I can. Originally by: Levi Duke Go ahead and eat your popcorn, while you watch us eat your sites. Sites were fun the first time, but now they are almost as dull as ratting. Popcorn on the other hand never gets old. Last time I checked, popcorn still gets stale when not stored in a proper resealable container. But you're right, sites are boring without the privilige of laughing your ass off alongside of sk33t pilots. I'd much rather sit back and watch my BTL empire channel spammed full of awesome Drake fits.
whitie365	Posted - 2011.05.19 21:00:00 - [80] Originally by: Shayden Edited by: Shayden on 19/05/2011 10:04:36 Skeet fleet is just evolution. In any game ive played there will always be a group of people that will farm that site even harder, adapt to mechanics that further, invest money/time that more. Its a natural process of man's strive to be the best. At least for my part it is. Skeet fleet was created in mid april after a group of "farmers" where hitting up the same fleets everytime we logged in. The same fleet was going 24/7 and the move to make a group for these people was natural and whitie365 did the right thing. He gave us a home. Now you may not know who i am, but i am only 6 months old incursion pilot and i started out just like anyone else with standard ship and not alot of know how on incursions. The fleets i started to fly with was lead by Hardin,Phattecia and Daniel Jackson. These 3 guys took us ppl in and gave us a great understandment of how incursions works and i can thank much of my knowledge to these guys. Everytime i flew with these fleets i had a great time. Now what is my point with this? Theres a need for both kind of fleets in incursions. There always will be. No one can put in the same amount of time, isk or commitment for this game. We all vary. The reason why i fly with skeet is because ive now reached the stage where i want to see just how fast can we kill these rats, just how fast can we do this and that site. Just how much damage can whitie ****ing do. It is part of who i am. Now for the site stealing i must back whitie up. Because of this drive we have in skeet fleet we do actually not use time to scan down site before we enter. If the site is up, we warp to it and hit gate instantly. For the times we then meet a fleet already started on the site, we take it as a challenge to see if we can beat them to the finish line. It has nothing to do with stealing. The fleet that delievers the most damage wins not the fleet that enters site first. Its competition and i believe it is healthy as it should push you to do your best, while we do ours. In hopes of room for us all. Ill see you out there.. -Shayden/Shaiden/Shajden p.s lots of love to hardin,dj,delta,phat, whitie, frost sind shailei, kat slik and rest of ppl i fly with And with not having to DSCAN we have been able to save fleets from udder destruction because of new incursion FC's dont know what they are doing.

Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.05.19 21:10:00 - [81] Originally by: whitie365 we have been able to save fleets from udder destruction Cow mutilations are very nasty things indeed. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Tak149 Caldari	Posted - 2011.05.20 00:49:00 - [82] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: whitie365 we have been able to save fleets from udder destruction Cow mutilations are very nasty things indeed. But the milk is still good.
n00n3r Caldari Malicious Destruction	Posted - 2011.05.20 18:33:00 - [83] Originally by: Privateeralliance Sucks lol, NMC for armor ^^ no seriously if your doing mining sites when there's OTAs in system, your doing it wrong =D shame no1 reads the forums, but those people failfit anyways lol... so we will never win now where did i put my mic? oh yes now i remember... i stepped on it, trying to find my guitar... so I could endure the mind bumbing boredom of the phantasm fleet!... SERIOUSLY top flying em guys!! you guys really seem to underestimate the quickness in which you can do Mining Colonies, With ore already on hand, that site will go just as fast, if not faster, than NCO's. Sure you have to take some time out for a mining op, but that 15 mins you spend for a month's worth of ore pays itself off in dividends. _____________________________________________ Interested in Incursions? Check out our recruitment thread here: Link
JackStraw56	Posted - 2011.05.20 18:52:00 - [84] Mining colonies are in between NCOs and OTAs in speed for most fleets. If you are mining during the site you're doing it wrong, you should have a huge stash of ore already.
Privateeralliance Sucks	Posted - 2011.05.20 19:25:00 - [85] Edited by: Privateeralliance Sucks on 20/05/2011 19:26:55 Originally by: JackStraw56 Mining colonies are in between NCOs and OTAs in speed for most fleets. If you are mining during the site you're doing it wrong, you should have a huge stash of ore already. i hate NMCs....drakes, and phantasms :) all are useless and detrimental to the fleet sanity/willpower/isk bars!! CCP remove everyone of these from the game!!!
Kat Bandeis Caldari Space Pods Inc	Posted - 2011.05.20 23:49:00 - [86] You don't claim Incursion sites as your own, asshat. If you can't hold it or drive off raiders, then you don't deserve to run it. Go back to mining.
Fishsticks Fred	Posted - 2011.05.21 00:17:00 - [87] Originally by: JackStraw56 Mining colonies are in between NCOs and OTAs in speed for most fleets. If you are mining during the site you're doing it wrong, you should have a huge stash of ore already. Well it's just the hassle of filling up on ore and all that when we can just run OTAs and NCOs. I know I at least have 40k of ore, we just don't like to run those sites.
Sal Travins	Posted - 2011.05.21 04:27:00 - [88] I am both highly intrigued at running incursions from reading this thread, but at the same time I'm pretty sure my mind exploded on page 2. Too bad my little home in EVE just got beset by an Incursion right when I was about to start a L4. That... would have been terrible timing if it were 5 minutes later. Also, don't eat frozen popcorn, it tastes funky.
Bluco Tuco	Posted - 2011.05.21 19:23:00 - [89] I hear that its sk33t fl33t's fault for the server going down, they flipped so many sites from other players that the hardware could not compute all the necessary computations to give out rewards. Good job Sk33t, way to ruin it for the rest of us.
Tore Nord	Posted - 2011.05.21 19:47:00 - [90] Originally by: Bluco Tuco I hear that its sk33t fl33t's fault for the server going down, they flipped so many sites from other players that the hardware could not compute all the necessary computations to give out rewards. Good job Sk33t, way to ruin it for the rest of us. Sorry.... forgot to ask for reinforced node...

Bluco Tuco	Posted - 2011.05.23 20:38:00 - [91] I just did request a re-enforced node, see if that helps keep those skeet fleets down.
LIL TANYA Adoulin	Posted - 2011.05.24 03:05:00 - [92] **** THIS! THERE'S NOTHING LIKE STEALING OF SITES. IT'S NOT IN ANYWAY SIMILAR TO MISSIONS. IT'S LIKE ANY OTHER SITE/PLEX YOU FIND IN SPACE SO YOU CAN'T CLAIM IT FOR YOURSELF YOU FEKICNG CAREBEAR!
Ludus Lucrius	Posted - 2011.05.24 07:48:00 - [93] shout, shout, let it all out ... :-)
Swynet	Posted - 2011.05.24 10:51:00 - [94] Originally by: Bluco Tuco So I just started running Incursions, and really enjoyed them. Until these group of asshats, who call themselves sk33t fl33t showed up. They have no regard for any other fleet out there, they will just run into a site, even if another group has already claimed it. Its ours, we were there first. Does anyone else have this problem, or am I just bad luck and the fleet I am in gets targeted for site stealing. Bring an alt, join their fleet with. Target any neutral stuff arount giving Koncorden agression to everyone and his mother, bring your main salvage/loot = profit
skajit spey spey clave	Posted - 2011.05.24 11:55:00 - [95] Originally by: Bluco Tuco I hear that its sk33t fl33t's fault for the server going down, they flipped so many sites from other players that the hardware could not compute all the necessary computations to give out rewards. Good job Sk33t, way to ruin it for the rest of us. ....these are the things I can do without...c'mon....
Mr LaForge	Posted - 2011.05.24 12:57:00 - [96] ...I'm talking to you...
Cassina Lemour Minmatar Staner Industries	Posted - 2011.05.24 13:48:00 - [97] Aside from the elite speak WTF is a sk33t fl33t, what are they doing and why is every body else ****ed with them?
Ludus Lucrius	Posted - 2011.05.24 13:52:00 - [98] They are just "helping" others finish incursion sites faster :-)
Fishsticks Fred	Posted - 2011.05.24 22:53:00 - [99] Edited by: Fishsticks Fred on 24/05/2011 22:53:48 Originally by: Cassina Lemour Aside from the elite speak WTF is a sk33t fl33t, what are they doing and why is every body else **ed with them? A group of people that fly expensive ships and setups optimized to blitz the ** out of vanguard sites, occasionally competing with other fleets in a site and occasionally winning. People claim ownership of sites and cry when we "steal" them. And we're better than everyone. Obviously.
Ludus Lucrius	Posted - 2011.05.25 07:24:00 - [100] Edited by: Ludus Lucrius on 25/05/2011 07:24:37 R u better than life 2 ? :-)

HardinSalvor	Posted - 2011.05.25 07:37:00 - [101] Originally by: Ludus Lucrius Edited by: Ludus Lucrius on 25/05/2011 07:24:37 R u better than life 2 ? :-) I see what you did there.
Shayden Caldari	Posted - 2011.05.25 10:23:00 - [102] Originally by: Trader Hansen This is why I've never touched, and never will touch incursions. There is no reward for your effort unless you're in the dominant fleet. Even if you've dealt 49% of the DPS, you still get diddly squat for your efforts. And in high-sec, there's basically no recourse if another fleet muscles in. Welcome to EverQuest gameplay mechanics from 1999. And neither should you join these incursions if you expect there isnt gonna be any competition. New vanguard fleets are starting everyday because people are starting to get familar with vanguards sites now. Its a natural evolution. But whatever you do, do not hate the people, they just play the rules that are set for them by ccp. If any, hate the game. /Shay
Jenn aSide	Posted - 2011.05.25 16:40:00 - [103] Originally by: Trader Hansen This is why I've never touched, and never will touch incursions. There is no reward for your effort unless you're in the dominant fleet. Even if you've dealt 49% of the DPS, you still get diddly squat for your efforts. And in high-sec, there's basically no recourse if another fleet muscles in. Welcome to EverQuest gameplay mechanics from 1999. +1. CCP can fix it by making rewards proportional to damage dealt, with a small bonus for the fleet doing the most damage. THAT would be more in line with the cooperative play CCP said they wanted with incursion. The current system is more adversarial than is good for the feature.
Lady Go Diveher	Posted - 2011.05.25 17:10:00 - [104] Originally by: Jenn aSide The current system is more adversarial than is good for the feature Explain why this is actually bad, please? Eve is not, and never has been, a game where you're rewarded just for turning up.
Ludus Lucrius	Posted - 2011.05.26 08:06:00 - [105] Edited by: Ludus Lucrius on 26/05/2011 08:11:09 When I was starting incursions I also felt that "only best fleet" wins the site sucks.But now I think it actually adds to gameplay and makes it more fun, either in win or lose competitions or in scounting and racing for clear sites, or specializing in ones that are "less" favorite. "No Rest 4 d Wicked"
Smagd Encina Technologies Namtz' aar K'in	Posted - 2011.05.26 12:21:00 - [106] I believe two fleets doing the same sites in parallel would actually speed up average site completion time, if (and that's a problem) the rewards were alternating fairly. 6x Web from two fleets > 3x Web from just one, for instance. And large targets get only half the repper cycles.
Fulmar Muse Caldari	Posted - 2011.05.26 13:11:00 - [107] Originally by: Jenn aSide Originally by: Trader Hansen This is why I've never touched, and never will touch incursions. There is no reward for your effort unless you're in the dominant fleet. Even if you've dealt 49% of the DPS, you still get diddly squat for your efforts. And in high-sec, there's basically no recourse if another fleet muscles in. Welcome to EverQuest gameplay mechanics from 1999. +1. CCP can fix it by making rewards proportional to damage dealt, with a small bonus for the fleet doing the most damage. THAT would be more in line with the cooperative play CCP said they wanted with incursion. The current system is more adversarial than is good for the feature. nope "Keep on doin what you doin, do it gud.. " Super fly]
Mr LaForge	Posted - 2011.05.26 13:32:00 - [108] Edited by: Mr LaForge on 26/05/2011 13:33:05 I think its fine as it is. Competition in eve is good.
Fulmar Muse Caldari	Posted - 2011.05.26 13:38:00 - [109] Originally by: Mr LaForge Edited by: Mr LaForge on 26/05/2011 13:33:05 I think its fine as it is. Competition in eve is good. Confirming it's fine. "Keep on doin what you doin, do it gud.. " Super fly]


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