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Foxgguy2001
Gallente
Second Hand Lions
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Posted - 2011.05.16 21:44:00 -
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 Originally by: Bane Necran
Organizing something like this would be the perfect cover for a botter to have...
Making such a declaration would be the perfect thing for a botter to do to avoid suspicion...
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Bane Necran
Furtim Vigilans
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Posted - 2011.05.16 21:48:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Foxgguy2001
Originally by: Bane Necran
Organizing something like this would be the perfect cover for a botter to have...
Making such a declaration would be the perfect thing for a botter to do to avoid suspicion...
Counter accusations are often a tactic of guilty people...except when i do it...
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NinjaSpud
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Posted - 2011.05.16 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Bane Necran
Originally by: Foxgguy2001
Originally by: Bane Necran
Organizing something like this would be the perfect cover for a botter to have...
Making such a declaration would be the perfect thing for a botter to do to avoid suspicion...
Counter accusations are often a tactic of guilty people...except when i do it...
LMAO
See look how much fun we're already having. LOL 
Seriously though, no witch hunting. I wanna do this right and be accurate on my targets.
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Fredfredbug4
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.05.16 22:01:00 -
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I'm very interested in this. I've been thinking about something like this too. I can't afford to take the security standing loss but I will gladly do some scouting.
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Simply Human
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Posted - 2011.05.16 22:10:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Bane Necran
Organizing something like this would be the perfect cover for a botter to have...
It's a money making scam preying on stupid people to help him gank miners.
Should work out pretty well though, he won't even lose sec status if he's always just a little to slow to hit the target. |
Corina's Bodyguard
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Posted - 2011.05.16 22:18:00 -
[36]
Originally by: bilingi
Great already had some of you idiots trying to gank my hulk screaming bots suck... Some where stupid enough to have there alts watching so i could track down their corps...
I thought Hulkgeddon people where dumb but yall are worse.
Likely just a copycat group. We would do this with an air of professionalism. Spy for a few weeks. Petition CCP. Then gank the stuffing out of the bot.
BTW, if anyone I gank turns out to not be a bot, I will provide 100% financial compensation (taking into account the default insurance value).
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bilingi
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Posted - 2011.05.16 22:56:00 -
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Its not problem but its funny as hell. I mine while at work or while doing other things. Its just funny. Things like this start with good intentions but never end that way.
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Joan Avon
Amarr
Proletariat Manifesto
The United Corporations
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Posted - 2011.05.16 22:58:00 -
[38]
Originally by: bilingi
Great already had some of you idiots trying to gank my hulk screaming bots suck... Some where stupid enough to have there alts watching so i could track down their corps...
I thought Hulkgeddon people where dumb but yall are worse.
Just one hulk or several? They must have had some reason to suspect you were cheating. What was it? As for tracking down their corps... I wouldn't bet on your chances of success being that high. The bots are destabilizing Eve, they must be killed.
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Opertone
Caldari
World - of - Empire
Cassiopeia.
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Posted - 2011.05.16 23:11:00 -
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terrific read... I am high, very high, and this balm of bot purge cures my sour, bot hurt ass.
are you british, are you american? your writing is inspires enthusiasm and patriotic feelings towards our eve universe. I attribute it to your country of origin and mental superiority.
Let's do this guys.
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NinjaSpud
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Posted - 2011.05.16 23:39:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Simply Human
Originally by: Bane Necran
Organizing something like this would be the perfect cover for a botter to have...
It's a money making scam preying on stupid people to help him gank miners.
Should work out pretty well though, he won't even lose sec status if he's always just a little to slow to hit the target.
*sarcasm*
...cause leaving my C6 WH to come gather up hulk debris is such a better profit making venue. Dude, I can make 150mill/hr when my corp runs sights in my WH, not to mention the Good PI and gas reactions I can do. Money isn't my motivation.
Originally by: bilingi
Its not problem but its funny as hell. I mine while at work or while doing other things. Its just funny. Things like this start with good intentions but never end that way.
And I'm sure the first macro was to help mr smith mine while he helps an old lady cross the street.
POINT: I'm fighting fire with fire, blame them for starting the Blaze.
Originally by: Opertone
terrific read... I am high, very high, and this balm of bot purge cures my sour, bot hurt ass.
are you british, are you american? your writing is inspires enthusiasm and patriotic feelings towards our eve universe. I attribute it to your country of origin and mental superiority.
Let's do this guys.
Stoners are my favorite people LOL
I'm American, and damn proud of it.
Speaking of wich, works gonna end soon...I might be a little busy tonight guys, if I can I'll chat w/ you all in my channel. We'll get things going tomorrow for sure.
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Myfanwy Heimdal
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Posted - 2011.05.17 07:12:00 -
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Ooh, sounds like a commendable idea.
The next thing we ought to press for is to get Positive Status from CCP for doing their dirty work for them.
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Eyup Mi'duck
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Posted - 2011.05.17 12:11:00 -
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Edited by: Eyup Mi''duck on 17/05/2011 12:12:21
Originally by: NinjaSpud
Stuff... I'm American, and damn proud of it.
I'm not American, and damn thankful for it.
Sorry, just couldn't resist that! Each to his own 
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Arnakoz
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Posted - 2011.05.17 12:36:00 -
[43]
Originally by: NinjaSpud
Nobody wants this to become a witch hunt
while i agree with what you are doing, and think it is even great for the mechanical tears... we all know this is exactly what it will become. (if people truly get involved)
but beyond my attempt at being sage, i have a question: do you intend on targeting nullsec bots? it is my belief that they are the larger problem: they earn vastly more and are harder to locate. I would imagine that killing a hisec bot a few times would be enough to make the losses not worth the risk. but 0.0 guys make their losses back too rapidly.
if so, i have some ideas on how to catch them. one of which basically boils down to whether or not they are willing to operate in a bubble :)
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.05.17 12:47:00 -
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Edited by: Othran on 17/05/2011 12:50:47
I don't honestly see the point of ganking minerbots when it appears that side of the detection process is working well. If its not then go for it but better off just pushing another hulkageddon event IMHO.
For null-sec ratbots then the only viable solution is awox'ing them. There are other ways of doing it but frankly you'd have more fun watching paint dry very slowly.
Courier bots - good way to wreck your own sec status for no benefit at all. T1 hauler + expanders = very very cheap.
Mission bots - possible I guess. Never bothered looking at them.
I don't see the point myself NinjaSpud. I see ratbot activity is down in 5 out of 8 systems I was watching - in three of them its ceased more or less. Even Stain is looking better - never ever thought I'd say that.
Oh and I see a guy from a certain corp/alliance who recently held sov in Wicked Creek whinging on the forums today about CCP nerfing null etc. 3 of the 8 systems I was watching were being botted around the clock by that very corp/alliance.
Had you done this 3 months ago then it'd probably have been better.
Edit - oh and I am considering the possibility that the majority of the ratbots got hit as they also ran minerbots. CCP targeting the REAL end-user rather than individual accounts.
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
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Posted - 2011.05.17 13:11:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Corina's Bodyguard
For example, if we gank someone (it will happen) and their pod continues to "mine", we know for a certainty that the person is a bot and they will be reported and hunted.
LOLOLOLOL
Why don't you just tie them up and throw them in the river? If they sink and drown, they're in the clear, but if they float, you've found yourself a witch!
Oh, I mean you found a bot... it's not a witch hunt, I remember now.
(Not that I'm against the idea - just poking holes in your swiss-cheese rationale :) )
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NinjaSpud
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Posted - 2011.05.17 15:38:00 -
[46]
Originally by: War Kitten
Originally by: Corina's Bodyguard
For example, if we gank someone (it will happen) and their pod continues to "mine", we know for a certainty that the person is a bot and they will be reported and hunted.
LOLOLOLOL
Why don't you just tie them up and throw them in the river? If they sink and drown, they're in the clear, but if they float, you've found yourself a witch!
Oh, I mean you found a bot... it's not a witch hunt, I remember now.
(Not that I'm against the idea - just poking holes in your swiss-cheese rationale :) )
I would be willing to implement a reimbursement policy to aid those who might be wrongly targeted. But that would require setting up a hulk building facility or some kind of income to help. I'm not super rich in Eve, but if it what you guys want to feel secure then I'll organize it.
Hey guys, tonight I'm going to be in the chat channel "Bot Grief" tonight (US TZ, should be around 04:00 eve time...i think) is when we'll make our first lists and targets. join it....BOT-A-GEDDON IS ON!!
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wh hunter kellar
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Posted - 2011.05.17 18:55:00 -
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I wanna join in the fun, guys!!! but why don't we go after those infamous "Iskbank.com" peeps?
Wasn't like one of the NC's corp/alliance members one of those big groups on the list? And what about the Drone regions? Weren't the residents from a certain nation supposedly the "big botters" out in their sovereign space?
Wasn't there a report of a PL character on evenews 24/7 (before it disappeared???)waxing one of them "botters" and getting kicked out of PL?
girls just wanna have fun ganking people's stuffz  
kill all bots 
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Bahr Cudas
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Posted - 2011.05.17 20:37:00 -
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Can I please be put on your "Don't-Kill-Me-I'm-Slow-Mining-In-The-Background" list??
How will you differentiate between 'Bots and Slow-Miners?
I always accept the risks, no matter how secure the system, so if I get ganked I get ganked. It would be harder to take if I knew I was a victim of friendly fire.
The richest I ever got was hitting 'Bot cans in an Ice Field. Those were the days! Good luck in your venture.
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Henry Haphorn
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.17 20:46:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Bahr Cudas
Can I please be put on your "Don't-Kill-Me-I'm-Slow-Mining-In-The-Background" list??
How will you differentiate between 'Bots and Slow-Miners?
Well, it will be difficult to determine for sure if a certain toon in question is a bot or not. That is why we need a massive collaboration between players in an effort to keep track on as many potential bots as possible. I have my own tracking list that I like to share with you guy. But to avoid the whole name-n-shame debate, information that I gathered will only be shared in the BOT GRIEF channel or petitioned to CCP if I have enough suspicions.
The more people we have tracking certain groups in as many regions as possible, the better chance we have at pin pointing the correct suspect. The last thing we ever need is a ganked miner who was innocent.
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Heedless
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Posted - 2011.05.17 23:49:00 -
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wanted to repost here as well...
I call for a national REPORT-A-BOT day to coincide with botageddon to futher publicize the event and encourage another avenue of assistance for those who may not be up for violent action.
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Henry Haphorn
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.18 00:00:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Heedless
wanted to repost here as well...
I call for a national REPORT-A-BOT day to coincide with botageddon to futher publicize the event and encourage another avenue of assistance for those who may not be up for violent action.
Anyone can help in any way.
Scouting asteroid belts, gravimetric sites, mission sites, and low-sec systems.
Spying on the bot communities.
Keeping a close eye on the market for unusual changes.
Book Keepers recording everyday patterns and behaviors on the suspects to see if the toons in question are bots or not.
Donations of any form (ISK, preferably ships, logistics or fleet bonus support).
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Somealt Ofmine
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Posted - 2011.05.18 00:05:00 -
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Here are a few tips for you:
1) Most of the bots that matter are in 0.0. Go there.
2) You don't have to kill them to screw them over. Train all of your alts to fit a cloak, then look on Dotlan (evemaps.dotlan.net) for systems with unusually high NPC Killed rates. Go there. If you find one or more Tengus there, put an alt there, cloak him up, and continue playing on your main. Most of the bot programs out there are programmed not to hunt if a hostile or neutral is in local.
Keep watching the map. If the botter moves his bot, move your alt. If you can recruit an army of people to place alts around like this that they can leave online when they're AFK/not playing, you'll go a long way toward shutting the botters down.
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Corina's Bodyguard
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Posted - 2011.05.18 00:26:00 -
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Key thing: don't use just one days observation to label a bot. A few days should be taken, to allow for natural variations in behavior (even the most botlike person will have long term variations, whereas bots will have short term variations that stay the same over time).
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2011.05.18 01:19:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Somealt Ofmine
Edited by: Somealt Ofmine on 18/05/2011 00:07:49
Here are a few tips for you:
1) Most of the bots that matter are in 0.0. Go there.
2) You don't have to kill them to screw them over. Train all of your alts to fit a cloak, then look on Dotlan (evemaps.dotlan.net) for systems with unusually high NPC Killed rates. Go there. If you find one or more Tengus there, put an alt there, cloak him up, and continue playing on your main. Most of the bot programs out there are programmed not to hunt if a hostile or neutral is in local.
Whenever you aren't playing or are going to go AFK for a long period of time, log your cloaking alt in and leave him in the botter's system.
Keep watching the map. If the botter moves his bot, move your alt. If you can recruit an army of people to place alts around like this that they can leave online when they're AFK/not playing, you'll go a long way toward shutting the botters down.
Somealt speaks the truth.
But lets face it. It's more fun to run around high sec on gank alts and accomplish nothing than to use the effective (but boring) method to remove this blight.
The true botters read these threads and laugh at you big talking cowboys all comfy in high sec while they pull in literally billions of ISK per day in null sec.
If you really intend on doing something about this problem. Do it right. A witch hunt will do nothing to stop it. And this will be a witch hunt.
Mr Epeen 
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NinjaSpud
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Posted - 2011.05.18 06:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Epeen
And this will be a witch hunt.
Hush you, we have the devil to kill.
Just updating people on this effort.
It has been said, the best fighters in a war are the volunteers. The buffalo soldiers and minuet-men in the early days of America. The fighters of the Alamo. The 300 Spartans that stood off the unstoppable Persian army. They all stepped up to the plate when the time called, they volunteered.
I have asked for a CTA, and the earliest members are stepping forward. They should all be commended on their efforts.
The bot grief channel is filling up. A mailing list has been created. Fleets are forming. Potential Bot lists are currently being monitored. We're working on a ship replacement program, and a method to stabilize lost standings.
We will strike soon!
But we need more, join channel Bot Grief, take part of our war. If you are in doubt of our resolve, just wait. Killmails will be posted here.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.05.18 06:25:00 -
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I'ma go get Helicity in here to yell at you for stealing the 'a-geddon' copyright again 
Originally by: Jada Maroo
Many legitimate news stories over the past few years would not have been brought to the forefront if not for Fox News.
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Grumpymunky
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Posted - 2011.05.18 06:54:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
I'ma go get Helicity in here to yell at you for stealing the 'a-geddon' copyright again
Then we'll call it The Macrocalypse.
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Ilie
1st Steps Academy
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.05.18 07:49:00 -
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Edited by: Ilie on 18/05/2011 07:50:10
Originally by: Somealt Ofmine
Edited by: Somealt Ofmine on 18/05/2011 00:07:49
Here are a few tips for you:
1) Most of the bots that matter are in 0.0. Go there.
2) You don't have to kill them to screw them over. Train all of your alts to fit a cloak, then look on Dotlan (evemaps.dotlan.net) for systems with unusually high NPC Killed rates. Go there. If you find one or more Tengus there, put an alt there, cloak him up, and continue playing on your main. Most of the bot programs out there are programmed not to hunt if a hostile or neutral is in local.
Whenever you aren't playing or are going to go AFK for a long period of time, log your cloaking alt in and leave him in the botter's system.
Keep watching the map. If the botter moves his bot, move your alt. If you can recruit an army of people to place alts around like this that they can leave online when they're AFK/not playing, you'll go a long way toward shutting the botters down.
This is a good idea, if you ask me.
I'd like to report in as well.
My squad of 0.0 anti botters have currently killed:
over 7 raven bots
3 carrier bots
3 tengu bots
Also, the best way to see if a miner bot is a bot:
- Step 1: see what's the time between him warping to belt, and him leaving the belt
- Step 2: Bump him outside of his miner's range right after having arrived to belt
- Step 3: If he warps off exactly after the time at Step 1, and does absolutely nothing before that, and warps to the same damn station...it's very probable he's a bot.
I can give advice on killing 0.0 bots... Loads... This one purifier buddy of mine killed 3 ravens and he didn't have any tackle, lol... There are ways of screwing with their algorithms...
Oh by the way, has anyone gotten any response about bot reporting? I've petitioned very many and given good info, but they haven't responded, and it's already been like over a week.
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ChromeStriker
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Posted - 2011.05.18 09:36:00 -
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I like this, i shall help and will join channel tonight. let the purge begin!
I think a new ship is in order... maybe a bomber... ooo a typhoon...na too slow...ummm....nope its going to have to be a Hound, poetic justice n all that lol
S!
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El'Niaga
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.05.18 09:41:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Corina's Bodyguard
Originally by: T'Laar Bok
Edited by: T''Laar Bok on 16/05/2011 17:56:24
"Look, that guy has 4 accounts, he's mining and wont talk to me. He Must Be A Bot. Burn Him, Burn Him!"
TL;DR Mining Inquisition.
This is not what we are going for. We watch for un human behaviors.
For example, if we gank someone (it will happen) and their pod continues to "mine", we know for a certainty that the person is a bot and they will be reported and hunted.
Silence alone does not indicate botness. They might just be afk or unsociable.
So kinda like the Salem Witch Trials, we'll drop em in the water. If they drown they are innocent and if they float their guilty so we'll burn em at the stake?
Just in this case you blow up their mining ship. If they warp the pod off then they were really a human, if not they were a bot. What an excellent system of justice.
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