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Zen Jardo
Merkhan Industries Anarchy Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.05.19 20:39:00 -
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The new fleet history tab is nice and all but I think you removed the ability to export a loot log to disk. I use this all the time to determine payout amounts for fleet ops. Please bring this feature back.
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GM Xamother
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Posted - 2011.05.19 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Zen Jardo The new fleet history tab is nice and all but I think you removed the ability to export a loot log to disk. I use this all the time to determine payout amounts for fleet ops. Please bring this feature back.
The loot logging is enabled by default and cannot be disabled.
Best regards, Senior GM Xamother EVE Online Customer Support
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Slaktoid
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Posted - 2011.05.19 23:35:00 -
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Would you be so kind as to point out the location of said log? |
teip
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Posted - 2011.05.20 00:20:00 -
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Thrilling response. What OP ment was that there was a feature within the old loot log window, in wich you could right click the "loot log" tab and choose export. For then to get the loot log exported to a .txt file. This file could be used out of game in div. software to calculate payout to fleetmembers after ops. This feature is now lacking (Or put somewhere stupid) and making exporting the logs a real pain. ---- - Teip |
Zen Jardo
Merkhan Industries Anarchy Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.05.20 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: teip Thrilling response. What OP meant was that there was a feature within the old loot log window, in wich you could right click the "loot log" tab and choose export.
Exactly teip. I know the GMs probably have a lot of requests right now but Senior GM Xamother could at least read a post before replying to it.
If this feature was removed by mistake please add it back. If you removed it on purpose would you at least explain why?
Thanks
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GM Xamother
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Posted - 2011.05.20 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: Zen Jardo
Originally by: teip Thrilling response. What OP meant was that there was a feature within the old loot log window, in wich you could right click the "loot log" tab and choose export.
Exactly teip. I know the GMs probably have a lot of requests right now but Senior GM Xamother could at least read a post before replying to it.
If this feature was removed by mistake please add it back. If you removed it on purpose would you at least explain why?
Thanks
My apologies, it would appear that the export feature is indeed missing. I sadly don't have any work around for this at the moment.
Best regards, Senior GM Xamother EVE Online Customer Support
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Zigg Omelo
NorCorp Enterprise Norcorp
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Posted - 2011.05.20 08:33:00 -
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can we get it back pwetty pweeese, its a very important buisness tool for us, all our isk is routed through it :)
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CCP Soundwave
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.20 14:39:00 -
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Hey guys!
We took it out because it seems like a bit of an odd piece of information for the majority of our users. In general, having import/export features aren't really something I'm thrilled with.
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suptrader
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Posted - 2011.05.20 14:51:00 -
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Edited by: suptrader on 20/05/2011 14:54:03 Well, please put it back. It is very important tool needed for 3 party program. With out it, it gets very difficult to calculate what each member off an op should get. You then have to manually input each item, that takes ages! And I would bet that its very important for almost all people that do op together(most WH people) , and share the profits of all loot.
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Kellaen
Samurai Salvaging Stellar Defense Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.20 15:59:00 -
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Quote: Hey guys! We took it out because it seems like a bit of an odd piece of information for the majority of our users. In general, having import/export features aren't really something I'm thrilled with.
Of all the useful things to nerf, you choose this? If you don't like export functionality, why not remove market exports as well? You might as well remove all the API feeds as well, because they export information. And while you're at it, just remove the ability to log chat to text so people have to manually type everything out again.
This change makes zero sense, especially coming from your team. Have any of you ever been tasked with running WH ops, or mining ops, or even dividing up loot obtained from roams? The game is already spreadsheet online because the ingame tools available are quite frankly terrible, which is why I don't understand the removal.
Terrible change.
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Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.05.20 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Soundwave Hey guys!
We took it out because it seems like a bit of an odd piece of information for the majority of our users. In general, having import/export features aren't really something I'm thrilled with.
What does this mean? Are existing import and export features overly costly to current or future game performance, testing efforts or developer resources? Are these existing features a newly discovered security risk? Is this a change based upon the analysis of gathered data or one developer's whim?
Also, why must the EVE player base fill in the gaps in the patch notes, patch after patch? Is it that difficult, when making a revision to the EVE code-base, to write up a one sentence comment documenting the change? Otherwise, how does your quality assurance team know what you intended to change and ensure that the change makes it into the testing queue?
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Mercenary Killa
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Posted - 2011.05.20 20:01:00 -
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Edited by: Mercenary Killa on 20/05/2011 20:02:39 So I guess this is a awesome change for theifs that misrepresent the loot they salvaged now that I have to tally up their gains manually? Thanks for wasting my time. You don't even have a good reason.
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Mercenary Killa
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Posted - 2011.05.20 20:11:00 -
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Edited by: Mercenary Killa on 20/05/2011 20:12:50 On top of that I would bet the export feature was enterly client side. It was also hidden with a right click... If its too complicated for the average user then make the API old-people-proof too... Its not a hard change to revert.
You had the code written. Just put the button back.
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Slaktoid
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Posted - 2011.05.20 21:35:00 -
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Gotta echo the sentiments of the rest of the guys here. This is a terrible change. The export featuresaves us alot of time when doing pve stuff. You can extract the same information manually, but that sucks ass and leaves less time for blowing up spaceships for that one poor sucker who has to do it.
I don't see how this feature could be a bad or controversial. It's loot that someone has grabbed into their cargohold. It's clientside information that doesn't impact performance in any way.
I don't see the need for a lootlog whatsoever if it isn't a feature thats actually useful in any way. If Dim Wit or Joe Blow looted a Corpum A-type this or a Gist X-type that in mid battle, I don't care. I will never check logs to "catch" someone. I don't have the time.
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Target Painter
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.05.21 01:15:00 -
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Edited by: Target Painter on 21/05/2011 01:15:32
Originally by: CCP Soundwave Hey guys!
We took it out because it seems like a bit of an odd piece of information for the majority of our users. In general, having import/export features aren't really something I'm thrilled with.
Seriously? Newsflash: people steal in EVE-Online the internet spaceship MMORPG.
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Maggeridon Thoraz
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.21 03:21:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Soundwave Hey guys!
We took it out because it seems like a bit of an odd piece of information for the majority of our users. In general, having import/export features aren't really something I'm thrilled with.
hyahah, rofl. this is the best feature in eve. if i would not have exported my ui seeting, my ship fttings and all others possible exports eve client has yet offerd i would have been doomed for ages. it happens so often that after new patches ship fittings and ui setting have gone to nirvana. i think atm you are guys are really improving the ui visiually much better , but for the user at the client end the usabality of some things get worse. please in future just think some steps to advance and look much deeper over the edges....
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Rabid Gerbil
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Posted - 2011.05.21 05:28:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Soundwave Hey guys!
We took it out because it seems like a bit of an odd piece of information for the majority of our users. In general, having import/export features aren't really something I'm thrilled with.
Wish i could report this post for being dumb... as in the removal of this option DUMB!!!! wtf do we do now whan trying to work out who mined what or mission loot, i have to sit online while in fleet and add it up? It just blows the mind how out of touch the people making the game are with the people paying their wages..
[/end rant]
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Godsdood
Definitive Exploration and Excavations Drama Flakes
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Posted - 2011.05.21 05:30:00 -
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CCP, you guys are getting bloody ridiculous now.
Taking away features of the game we use every day!
Just put it back ffs!
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Darzamat Solfernus
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Posted - 2011.05.21 06:00:00 -
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Let me guess CCP Soundwave, you have never done a mining or mission op, never had to work out payments for fleet members, which is probably why you didn't see the usefullness of such a feature.
Time to get your head out of your *** mate!
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Koukristus
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Posted - 2011.05.21 08:59:00 -
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Edited by: Koukristus on 21/05/2011 09:01:00 Removing an option to export loot log to file incapacitates one genuine business idea in Eve Sandbox:
Garbage handling.
Our corporation accepts large heaps of PVE/PVP/whatever -loot as long as it's on market. However, only sane way to appraise the value of miscellanous 300-or-so item stack (in order to pay hard isk to the customer) is the loot log. We generate a fresh loot log on pos by jettisoning and then picking the can. Without exported log and third party value calculator there is no standard, fast and reliable (receit for the customer, he can be in a same fleet to receive unedited log himself for checking purposes) way see the value of any huge pile. Any other method, besides export log, is totally unusable for reasons too numerous to list here.
I understand CCP made some new code to incorporate all fleet info into a single pulldown menu, but I sincerely hope it can be either fixed or restored. Reasons to keep the loot log exports: + You are keeping one occupation in Eve sandbox alive + In time, you would get more itemID's freed up as people learn not to let random loot gather dust on some remote stations + PVE-op runners can give payments to participants faster and more accurately without numbening task of writing down dozens of items manually every time - Eve is about flying NOT wordpad!
Thank you.
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Alijah Mercer
Caldari King Wholesaling
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Posted - 2011.05.21 19:42:00 -
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I been patiently sitting around thinking this has GOT to be some sort of mistake. I can't believe the level of stupidity it must have taken to remove this feature on purpose. And then to back it up with a statement indicating you don't like export options. I would have laughed if I wasn't already so aggravated by it being removed.
I have built a business on eve of paying miners to mine and paying percentage based on a per piece basis. You just shut down the business since there is no way I can handle the same sized fleets I used to be able to and still sort out the bookwork with a realistic time table. Without this export ability my op leaders FC IV skill is essentially useless now. Of course so will FC I II and III since there is no way I can handle the time involved in sorting out pay due to miners.
If you care about what your users think then please, put this export feature back in, or give it to us in an api some how. I could care less if you make it auto export every so often like chat logs do, but give us something!
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Alijah Mercer
Caldari King Wholesaling
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Posted - 2011.05.21 19:46:00 -
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You know another thing this helps with is in the middle of ops when we go link dead, or the server goes down or you need to "emergency reboot" like you just did today, if the mining op leader has been keeping up on exporting the log frequently then we have the ability to dig through the logs and pay people for what was mined/looted before the crash/emergency shut down.
Without it, we're reduced to scrolling through the list and taking screen shots of the log. Seriously, I used to think Eve was one of the most cutting edge games on the market when it came to MMO's.
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Grenba Muxxi
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Posted - 2011.05.21 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Soundwave Hey guys!
We took it out because it seems like a bit of an odd piece of information for the majority of our users. In general, having import/export features aren't really something I'm thrilled with.
I can't believe this! We have incredibly big and complex spreadsheets linked to the exported logs. Without this we cannot possibly determine who's mined what in a large fleet mining op. We use this info to pay out exact ISK to each pilot based on their actual mined yield and not some pseudo number based on minutes in the fleet which then just tends to make everyone lazy and just sit in belt chatting instead of keeping their mind on the job.
It also allows us to run very advanced analysis of ore types mines, fleet efficiency based on individual times in fleet and volume mined, and even personal efficiencies based on current mining fit so as to make the mining ops a bit more interesting for everyone to have some targets to reach for and improve over time. It also allows me to auto-calculate exact minerals refined without having to enter anything manually.
Without the export to CSV option this all falls to pieces and will dumb-down all fleet ops to just mining randomly and getting paid a fixed price for time in fleet - that would really suck!
Please put this very useful feature back ASAP! I cannot imagine mining ops without it.
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Gusta Haullar
Caldari Isikemi Innovations
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Posted - 2011.05.21 19:59:00 -
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You seriously removed this on purpose!?!?!
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Drunein
Caldari Space Tech Innovations
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Posted - 2011.05.21 20:05:00 -
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There is absolutely no reason why this should be removed. I would love to see one real valid reason why it needed to be taken out. there is no real basis for it. At most it made it easier for industrial folks to do their job and run business.
Bring it back. There is no reason for it to be removed. ------ I play real life when I get bored. |
Vandy ColdStone
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Posted - 2011.05.21 20:09:00 -
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Like said above, eve is supposed to be a sandbox. Do what you want. Some players enjoy operating and managing mining operations, paying out to the miners for what they pull, and then using the ore.
Great. But now without the ability to export, you can't import to spreadsheet and accurately pay your miners. Puts alot of indy players business in a bit of a bind.
Any chance of getting this fixed?
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Uncle Lenny
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Posted - 2011.05.21 20:12:00 -
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Because it seems odd? Why wouldn't you ask the players what they think? Maybe a survey / poll through in game mail to ask how we feel about such a change? I cant imagine anyone seriously WANTED loot logging to go.
Anyone?
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Aoife Finn
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Posted - 2011.05.21 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Mercenary Killa Edited by: Mercenary Killa on 20/05/2011 20:12:50 On top of that I would bet the export feature was enterly client side. It was also hidden with a right click... If its too complicated for the average user then make the API old-people-proof too... Its not a hard change to revert.
You had the code written. Just put the button back.
Um... Lets change old-people-proof to idiot proof.
And... If it's usefull, why not keep it in. Especially if it doesn't affect in game balance or lag, no sense in removing the option to use it.
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Darzamat Solfernus
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Posted - 2011.05.21 22:04:00 -
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I want to ask if CCP Soundwave actually playes this game, but like they always say, they (apparently) do.
So what do you do in EVE mate, run around in null-sec blob fleets no doubt. You do realize that this is a sandbox, and not everyone will use every single feature you have in the game.
Fixing the game is great, but ripping out usefull features for no concrete reason is just stupid, and the fact that you did it on purpose!!!
When you code something, you document it, this is where this feature's uses would have been noted, RTFM!!!!
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suptrader
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Posted - 2011.05.21 22:07:00 -
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Well, it will be nice to see the effect on the market, cause our production has stopped completely. If you don`t bring it back fast, there is bound to be some consequences that effect prices.
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Morpheus Mishima
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.05.22 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Soundwave Hey guys!
We took it out because it seems like a bit of an odd piece of information for the majority of our users. In general, having import/export features aren't really something I'm thrilled with.
What about the market logs? Or the killmails? Or what about just plain old combat and chat logs which are generated automatically?
And then there's the mess with the ship fittings import/export features. Which you obviously have tried to fix.
What was the real incentive for removing this fully functional non-buggy feature which was not or could not be tampered with? Server load? Narrowmindedness? RP reasons which only airhead devs could understand. The ones that believe that the EVE client can be a 100% fulfilling experience for any pod-pilot?
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TorTorden
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.22 14:08:00 -
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Jesus christ Sw. What the hell are you smoking ? ------------------------------------------------ There is no such thing as good or evil. Just an egotistic struggle for self empowerment. ------------------------------------------------ |
Sandslinger
NorCorp Enterprise Norcorp
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Posted - 2011.05.22 14:40:00 -
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Edited by: Sandslinger on 22/05/2011 14:45:56 Get it back for the love of god !!!!
Every single wormhole corporation and alliance are completely dependent upon it for splitting up profits. Of all the things you added this one actually managed to make eve fun and less of a freaking second job for directors.
Taking something like that away with Zero warning whatsoever, and just some sort of glib remark like "we're not fans of it" afterwards
I don't usually rant or complain on forums but come on the F CCP !
We're talking thousands of players severely affected by you removing something that you already had in the game because your not fans. That's fine we don't need you to be, thousands of your customers are fans of it though.
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TorTorden
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.22 14:48:00 -
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I even told you Sw straight to your face in the dev talks on ff that we use the loot export heavily, guess this shows how little CCP devs both play the game they make and listen to customers. ------------------------------------------------ There is no such thing as good or evil. Just an egotistic struggle for self empowerment. ------------------------------------------------ |
Viperion
Caldari NorCorp Enterprise Norcorp
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Posted - 2011.05.22 14:56:00 -
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So CCP did a thoughtless move by removing the export for fleet history tab.
I can't say im utterly thrilled by it since i gain isk through that. By removing it you making a pain in the arse job for Fleet ops commanders to distribute correct isk to each our members in ops runs.
If ye decide to not fix that "accident", i bet alooot of wh and nullsec players would not like that. And as a customer like me.. its very unwise to ignore the customerbase, so i suggest strongly that you straighten up and fix that blasted problem. ipsa scientia potestas est
-V-
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Maggeridon Thoraz
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.22 14:59:00 -
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you should petition every operation and asking for having a dump so you can use that than for importing into your spreadsheets untill they bring the funtionality back.
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riley steel
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Posted - 2011.05.22 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Soundwave
In general, having import/export features aren't really something I'm thrilled with.
If its the import/export you dont like. Why do we have api keys ?
Please put the lootlog back.
Later CCP can make a api key system for the lootlog .
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retarded
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Posted - 2011.05.22 15:11:00 -
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Please bring it back asap, why remove a feature that many corps use, only to make their life alot harder?
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Logan Michaels
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Posted - 2011.05.22 15:44:00 -
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"For every complaint received the average business has another 26 customers with problems, at least six of which are serious."
http://web1.msue.msu.edu/imp/modtd/33200020.html
A little something to consider while you debate if you should put this back in or not.
Please get it back in.
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Aron Fox
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Posted - 2011.05.22 22:09:00 -
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CCP Why do you spend time on removing the working features of the loot-history and not actually fix the bugs in it allready? I sent ina bug report about the loot counting up incorrectly and your employees havent even acknowledged my report?
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Supersix
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Posted - 2011.05.23 06:27:00 -
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This is the Real "Butterfly effect" You out pveing alone or not at all cause some airhead remove this. This will affect economy of game. WH corps might do a lockdown of t3 production untill they fix this. This change might actually result in corps that will go under in result of this. I know for a fact that several thousand eve players USE THIS EVERYDAY and might play some other game without it!
I was pretty ****ed when you made game req. higher without any notice so i couldnt play eve for a month even if i pay for it. This change is WORSE. If you did this on purpose i cant really express myself here without getting the red flag!
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Morpheus Mishima
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.05.23 11:29:00 -
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Bump! Requesting a new DEV response to this issue asap. Bring this feature back now.
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Max Romeo
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Posted - 2011.05.23 14:49:00 -
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lmao, it sure is hard to export cvs in python... oh wait, that massive 6 line def is gonna break the bank!
Why would we want additional functionality which is both out of the way and generally handy. But hey if this is about fixing UI stuff, you might want to give us an option to disable all animations(i.e blinking overview icons, animated reticle around target etc) since at least we'd gain some decent performance and not be missing much.
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Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2011.05.23 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Viperion I can't say im utterly thrilled by it since i gain isk through that. By removing it you making a pain in the arse job for Fleet ops commanders to distribute correct isk to each our members in ops runs.
You never tried to cheat the loot log? Try it, it's wonderful. Just drop a can and deposit-loot it multiple times with the same ore chunk. The current "loot log" is in no way authoritative for any purpose but eyecandy. -- Thanks CCP for cu |
Alijah Mercer
Caldari King Wholesaling
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Posted - 2011.05.23 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Tonto Auri
Originally by: Viperion I can't say im utterly thrilled by it since i gain isk through that. By removing it you making a pain in the arse job for Fleet ops commanders to distribute correct isk to each our members in ops runs.
You never tried to cheat the loot log? Try it, it's wonderful. Just drop a can and deposit-loot it multiple times with the same ore chunk. The current "loot log" is in no way authoritative for any purpose but eyecandy.
I know roughly what ships can pull and when I get new miners I watch them for a while. After I decide they seem to be honest they fall into the rest of the group which I randomly check one or two people every op. If I catch someone cheating I watch them closer (mistakes happen) but if I find consistency in it they will be done in my ops. I've only had to fire one miner since the roll out of loot logging.
This is a very useful tool and just because it can be circumnavigated and used as a scam doesn't mean it doesn't have a relevant place in New Eden.
Again, please bring it back.
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Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2011.05.23 15:52:00 -
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It has a place, if it could be wholly tracked down to container ID's, as in, a squential LOGGING, not just an incremental COUNTER as it stands now. -- Thanks CCP for cu |
Alijah Mercer
Caldari King Wholesaling
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Posted - 2011.05.23 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tonto Auri It has a place, if it could be wholly tracked down to container ID's, as in, a squential LOGGING, not just an incremental COUNTER as it stands now.
Sure it could be "better" than it was. What feature in Eve can we discuss that someone wouldn't have a way to improve it or an idea of what would make it better even if they don't have a solution. Regardless of that point the feature as it "WAS" worked fine. It could easily be exported and the data copy and pasted into Excel where it could be converted to a table and manipulated endlessly. That is far faster and easier than just getting an actual time stamp log which we then have to develop parsing tools for before we can use the data.
I would love to see both options. The export like we had, and an auto-log system which automatically logs the loot to a file all the time like our chat channels do. It could do it for every character in or out of a fleet. That would be even more valuable. Whatever, at some level they need to return it to the game.
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TorTorden
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.23 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Alijah Mercer
Originally by: Tonto Auri
Originally by: Viperion I can't say im utterly thrilled by it since i gain isk through that. By removing it you making a pain in the arse job for Fleet ops commanders to distribute correct isk to each our members in ops runs.
You never tried to cheat the loot log? Try it, it's wonderful. Just drop a can and deposit-loot it multiple times with the same ore chunk. The current "loot log" is in no way authoritative for any purpose but eyecandy.
I know roughly what ships can pull and when I get new miners I watch them for a while. After I decide they seem to be honest they fall into the rest of the group which I randomly check one or two people every op. If I catch someone cheating I watch them closer (mistakes happen) but if I find consistency in it they will be done in my ops. I've only had to fire one miner since the roll out of loot logging.
This is a very useful tool and just because it can be circumnavigated and used as a scam doesn't mean it doesn't have a relevant place in New Eden.
Again, please bring it back.
We have never realy used it as a running track on an active op, we where using the 'feature' that corp hangar arrays trigger loot log events as well as jetcans. We then did our op\thing whatever, and all loot gets dropped into a hangar array section and one of the leadership grabs a hauler forms his own little fleet. Grabs the loot and exports it to our inhouse web application that stuffs it all into a db table and works out values and shares etc.
I'm honestly in a place where I don't want to tell ccp how we make things work since they will wind up 'fixing' it. ------------------------------------------------ There is no such thing as good or evil. Just an egotistic struggle for self empowerment. ------------------------------------------------ |
Pravuz
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Posted - 2011.05.23 21:22:00 -
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Bump!! Bring this function back plz. I see that SW made a very good argument about the resone to remove it, since he "don't like it" well news flash, ur outnumbered xxxx times by people that use it and need it...
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Ponteros
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Posted - 2011.05.23 21:31:00 -
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i realy hope the dev's intend to get this function back as soon as possible! Why make something that work well and gave less time on the calculator and more time shooting for then to take it away. great work there i must say.. as a costumer of multiple accounts i strongly urge the dev's to fix this asap.
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Zhalfirin Imwita
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Posted - 2011.05.23 21:59:00 -
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Reconsider this functionality. you are making life so much harder for the ones loving your game. we are hoping for a solution that makes life easier for the mundane tasks of distributing incomes.
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Joe Ishikela
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Posted - 2011.05.23 22:35:00 -
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Edited by: Joe Ishikela on 23/05/2011 22:35:41 Please bring this function back.
Whilst it may not excite you Soundwave, it is a incredibly useful tool for the mainers/manufactorers of eve that the market system relies on (being used extensively in every mining op i have been in)
It allows for payrolls to be apportioned accurately, and saves a lot of people headaches.
Its often the simple things that seem to have no value to many that are vital so more than are realised.
edit to correct dyslexic spelling mistakes SO pretty please with cherries, ice-cream, and Plex's on top bring back the fleet log export function
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TorTorden
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.24 16:17:00 -
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Bump, And in my opinion the new fleet hist app sucks donkey balls as well. Before it was actualy possibe to edit your broadcast filters besides having to right click and hide. If I for instance was to switch from a logistics role to a dps role I will have to reset all filters and start all over again.
PS: I for some reason mistook SW for Stillman. So its realy just chalk one more up for SounWave I guess.
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Chloie Kasp
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Posted - 2011.05.24 17:53:00 -
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Bump for a dev response. Nothing more to be added.
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Simone Victoria
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Posted - 2011.05.24 21:41:00 -
[55]
I'm so ****ed right now I can't even see straight. My entire payout system for my alliance was built off of loot log exports, and now, if I want to pay people for any given op, I have to go through the damn loot logs manually and throw the numbers into excel! Why remove features in EVE that are not costing server-side resources? Bring it back, please!
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Ruziel
Minmatar Twilight Military Industrial Complex
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Posted - 2011.05.24 21:54:00 -
[56]
Another vote for bringing it back, my corp was using it for reporting WH loot and mining , and then dividing payouts.
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Ke'atsu Meumo
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Posted - 2011.05.25 00:12:00 -
[57]
+1 for bringing it back ... also +1 for the group asking "Why remove things that aren't blogged about and aren't listed in patch notes?!?!"
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Zen Jardo
Merkhan Industries Anarchy Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.05.25 03:35:00 -
[58]
Follow up to my petition.
Originally by: GM Ochlavita I have to apologize here as I had conflicting information. Apparently the inability to export the loot log is not turned off by design, but it is indeed an error. Unfortunately there is no known workaround for it at the moment. So for the time being you unfortunately have to play the game without it, because there is no alternative function to retrieve this information.
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Drunein
Caldari Space Tech Innovations
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Posted - 2011.05.25 04:45:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Zen Jardo Follow up to my petition.
Originally by: GM Ochlavita I have to apologize here as I had conflicting information. Apparently the inability to export the loot log is not turned off by design, but it is indeed an error. Unfortunately there is no known workaround for it at the moment. So for the time being you unfortunately have to play the game without it, because there is no alternative function to retrieve this information.
No offense to Zen Jardo at all, but I would like to see a post response from someone on the Dev team, or a GM perhaps on the subject. I think it would be only fair that they deliver us a response as well, if this is true.
------ I play real life when I get bored. |
Jil November
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Posted - 2011.05.25 06:15:00 -
[60]
This issue should be CCP to priority to fix as it effects thousands of players as a major issue. These tools that we need to divide loot and calculate earnings should be implemented in the game. That you remove a export that was used to correct EVEs missing tools ingame, that should have been there in the first place is a extraordinary stupid thing to do!
Please get all the brains of CCP together to fix this at once! In a long term you should also focus on putting this in a ingame tool but for gods sake ask us how we want it and use it in detail before throwing more time and money away on making bad changes like this one that have in effect ruined the game in PVE group playability!
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Joredi
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Posted - 2011.05.25 14:32:00 -
[61]
Could you post a link to your petition? I don't know how to find it. |
Zen Jardo
Merkhan Industries Anarchy Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.05.25 15:42:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Joredi Could you post a link to your petition? I don't know how to find it.
There is no link and I was scolded for posting the response to my petition. Feel free to open your own here: http://support.eveonline.com/pages/petitions/createpetition.aspx.
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Joredi
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Posted - 2011.05.25 18:08:00 -
[63]
Kind of silly that we get patched super quickly for cosmetic glitches but real game issues don't even receive a response. I think my little 7 year old son could have had enough foresight to reason that the feature was needed and used.
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Kellaen
Samurai Salvaging Stellar Defense Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.25 18:49:00 -
[64]
While a GM reply is nice, overall it means nothing. GM's are there to enforce policy, they are not there to act as a Q/A buffer. What I mean by that is in many instances they do not have the same information as the developers, nor do they know exactly why things are changed. We have the team lead of BFF (Soundwave) already posting in this thread saying it was intentional and he hates data exporting, I will take that comment which is strait from the horses mouth as fact over what a random GM may have replied with.
This still stands as a stupid change, and unfortunately it doesn't surprise me to see this thread being largely ignored after that statement by soundwave. Hopefully I'm proven wrong. |
Alijah Mercer
Caldari King Wholesaling
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Posted - 2011.05.25 21:34:00 -
[65]
Well I'm not sure if I'll keep the business going that we're running if this doesn't get changed back. It's taking me way too long to do bookwork on small fleet ops now let alone running the big ones I was running.
Been debating the last day or so about just canceling my 7 accounts and going elsewhere since the only reason I'm here is for the business aspect anyways. It's simply too much time out of my day to try to break this crap down manually all the time. Not like they'd even feel my $1260.00 a year missing.
Of course if I leave, it's likely my two kids will follow me and thats another 4 accounts.
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Alijah Mercer
Caldari King Wholesaling
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Posted - 2011.05.25 21:37:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Zen Jardo
Originally by: Joredi Could you post a link to your petition? I don't know how to find it.
There is no link and I was scolded for posting the response to my petition.
It's nice to know they are watching close enough to scold you but are far to busy to give us any feedback other then the "I don't like export ability" type answer... I would think if I got my paycheck from customers I'd learn to like what they like as long as it didn't have negative impacts on the product.
I guess I'm just stuck in that old time customer service way of thinking.
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Simone Victoria
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Posted - 2011.05.25 23:15:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Alijah Mercer Well I'm not sure if I'll keep the business going that we're running if this doesn't get changed back. It's taking me way too long to do bookwork on small fleet ops now let alone running the big ones I was running.
Been debating the last day or so about just canceling my 7 accounts and going elsewhere since the only reason I'm here is for the business aspect anyways. It's simply too much time out of my day to try to break this crap down manually all the time. Not like they'd even feel my $1260.00 a year missing.
Of course if I leave, it's likely my two kids will follow me and thats another 4 accounts.
I feel your pain. I just about rage-quit on 7 different accounts as well when I found out this was for real. Seriously, why are there no legitimate replies from CCP yet on this subject?
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November Sky
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Posted - 2011.05.25 23:55:00 -
[68]
I been looking forward to actually play EVE again after my old computer couldnt run EVE anymore cause of the none noted change in spec. Been paying some months for several accounts just to get em trained when i get to borrow a computer. Alliance also have been preparing for tournament some months now and not getting in was another dissapointment. Without this export or a ingame tool to divide loot there is not even gonna be any good PVE ops either, Its not even fun looking for the new computer i FINALLY SAVED UP FOR and was gonna buy next week to get back in.. if i dont find any fun parts after the 2 major goals and fun for me was removed from game i could probably find some other games to play with a brand new computer also if i bare to leave the great community..
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Uncle Lenny
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.05.26 05:33:00 -
[69]
Originally by: November Sky I been looking forward to actually play EVE again after my old computer couldnt run EVE anymore cause of the none noted change in spec. Been paying some months for several accounts just to get em trained when i get to borrow a computer. Alliance also have been preparing for tournament some months now and not getting in was another dissapointment. Without this export or a ingame tool to divide loot there is not even gonna be any good PVE ops either, Its not even fun looking for the new computer i FINALLY SAVED UP FOR and was gonna buy next week to get back in.. if i dont find any fun parts after the 2 major goals and fun for me was removed from game i could probably find some other games to play with a brand new computer also if i bare to leave the great community..
I personally have no clue where your going with this. Are you mad because you bought a new laptop and now might quit eve? Or are you actually posting your opinion to the loot export?
Disappointed Lenny bumps for Dev Response.
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November Sky
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Posted - 2011.05.26 05:38:00 -
[70]
Im dissapointed that they ruin the playability in game for me for second time in a few months without any prior notice!
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Ronkerinka
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Posted - 2011.05.26 14:56:00 -
[71]
Need this feature back! Can a DEV please give a new response to this topic?
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Mercenary Killa
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Posted - 2011.05.26 18:29:00 -
[72]
I still haven't recived a response to my petition on the removal. I hope they can come off the high horse on this one and see how stupid the change was.
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Joredi
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Posted - 2011.05.27 17:56:00 -
[73]
Will the loot export feature be coming back or not? Answer please dev.
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Uncle Lenny
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.05.27 22:16:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Joredi Will the loot export feature be coming back or not? Answer please dev.
Also to add to that question, when will it be brought back?
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Mercenary Killa
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Posted - 2011.05.27 22:22:00 -
[75]
Its not like were going to simply move on soundwave... Its a big deal to us and its a pain in our ass every single day we play...
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Alijah Mercer
Caldari King Wholesaling
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Posted - 2011.05.28 14:06:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Mercenary Killa Its not like were going to simply move on soundwave... Its a big deal to us and its a pain in our ass every single day we play...
What he said.
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Zen Jardo
Merkhan Industries Anarchy Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.05.28 16:15:00 -
[77]
I haven't run a sleeper site since this patch came out because I don't feel like tallying the loot by hand.
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Uncle Lenny
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.05.28 18:17:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Zen Jardo I haven't run a sleeper site since this patch came out because I don't feel like tallying the loot by hand.
Market prices will be shifting drastically. I know many indy corps are stopping production and ops because of this. Sadly enough I dont think CCP gives an isk what we think.
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Alijah Mercer
Caldari King Wholesaling
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Posted - 2011.05.28 19:56:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Uncle Lenny
Originally by: Zen Jardo I haven't run a sleeper site since this patch came out because I don't feel like tallying the loot by hand.
Market prices will be shifting drastically. I know many indy corps are stopping production and ops because of this. Sadly enough I dont think CCP gives an isk what we think.
First account expires in 9 days.
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erittainvarma
Karjala Inc. The Polaris Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.05.29 11:00:00 -
[80]
As I replied to other thread about this fleet broadcast/log update:
Have you hired persons from Apple lately?
Please fire them. Really.
Or who ever has given the ****ing stupid idea that simple is good. This is EVE, it's supposed to be complex and informational, not a damn iPod.
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Viperion
Caldari NorCorp Enterprise Norcorp
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Posted - 2011.05.29 20:48:00 -
[81]
If GM saying that Loot export "disappeared" due a error, why hasn't CCP devs mentioned this? considering im quite sure they are more then aware how crucial this loot export feature is. Not to mention that frustrated burst from a dev saying he don't like it, well I don't really care what devs don't like since loot export feature is important.
I can only hope one of the Devs are smart enough to blog about that issue. explaining how the error occurred, and how painstaking work to find the solution. But trust me even we may not be well versed in programming or may have a different view about this issue, just blog about it. Let players know and hear your opinion, it may even soothe the rage or "reluctant" accept the fact CCP are facing a difficult problem.
I hope this "error" has high piority and if that error is almost impossible to fix, then add a new feature to export the loot log or anything that may help those who distribute payments for sites runs and mining ops. since i understood that export loot log wasn't a feature to begin with, unnless im mistaken.
So CCP
Blog about the Export loot log issue. ipsa scientia potestas est
-V-
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Mandella Stratus
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Posted - 2011.05.30 02:16:00 -
[82]
I created this thread. Hopefully, it will help us get a dev response. I noticed this thread is marked as responded already (If I understand the system correctly). That may be the reason this thread has been ignored.
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Joredi
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Posted - 2011.05.30 20:45:00 -
[83]
Quote: Client update #1 for Incursion 1.6, released May 31, 2011 This update ensures that the functionality of the Fleet History tab is maintained.
Hey Mod/Dev, whats this mean exactly? Quoted from here.
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Kellaen
Samurai Salvaging Stellar Defense Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.31 03:05:00 -
[84]
It means that the current fleet history window doesn't remember pulldown settings and always defaults to everything when switched to.
And still waiting..
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Zen Jardo
Merkhan Industries Anarchy Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.05.31 13:31:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Kellaen It means that the current fleet history window doesn't remember pulldown settings and always defaults to everything when switched to.
And still waiting..
Were did you read this?
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Alijah Mercer
Caldari King Wholesaling
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Posted - 2011.05.31 15:00:00 -
[86]
Still see no loot logging on test.. How disappointing.
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gonesideways
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Posted - 2011.05.31 15:31:00 -
[87]
Originally by: erittainvarma '...who ever has given the ****ing stupid idea that simple is good. This is EVE, it's supposed to be complex and informational, not a damn iPod.'
^this.
tbh I've noticed that perhaps a CCP intention to 'make something slicker' means dropping off an actually desired [too complex to some??] mechanic of late.
Does shine a light on the EVE development flowchart if through the development of some new features saws off the possibility to include some previous functionality.
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Mercenary Killa
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Posted - 2011.05.31 18:14:00 -
[88]
Edited by: Mercenary Killa on 31/05/2011 18:14:44 I want to play eve not wow. The dochan channel or whatever in your market UI confuses the **** out of me. Maybe you should cut that out next...
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Kenneth Adams
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.05.31 23:38:00 -
[89]
Bump - This still needs attention.
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Mandella Stratus
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Posted - 2011.06.01 04:37:00 -
[90]
BUMP!
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Zen Jardo
Merkhan Industries Anarchy Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.06.02 02:15:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Mandella Stratus BUMP!
I take it this means it wasn't fixed by the last patch. :(
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Alijah Mercer
Caldari King Wholesaling
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Posted - 2011.06.02 03:13:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Zen Jardo
Originally by: Mandella Stratus BUMP!
I take it this means it wasn't fixed by the last patch. :(
Nope.
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Joredi
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Posted - 2011.06.02 14:15:00 -
[93]
When will the export feature be back soundwave?
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Arele
Minmatar Samurai Salvaging
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Posted - 2011.06.02 21:02:00 -
[94]
Pew pew pew.. or rather bump bump bump. |
Civ Zomas
Gallente Jazz Associates
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Posted - 2011.06.03 00:30:00 -
[95]
Quote: ... having import/export features aren't really something I'm thrilled with. - CCP Soundwave
Dude, this statement could've been written to erode confidence in your judgement.
Loot export ended an egregiously banal daily task formerly laid on Eve's long suffering corporation leaders - manually copying numbers from loot stacks. Removing it is exactly contrary to CCP's commitment to "quality of life" improvements.
Taking away players' control of where their data can go was bound to cause a backlash. How could you not see this coming?
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Zen Jardo
Merkhan Industries Anarchy Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.06.03 17:28:00 -
[96]
http://www.eveonline.com/patches/optional/?from=266018&to=266355
No mention of the export feature being fixed. I may have to drive to Vegas next month and ply Soundwave with liquor and hookers.
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Alijah Mercer
Caldari King Wholesaling
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Posted - 2011.06.04 03:30:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Zen Jardo http://www.eveonline.com/patches/optional/?from=266018&to=266355
No mention of the export feature being fixed. I may have to drive to Vegas next month and ply Soundwave with liquor and hookers.
Someone has to do something, I want this feature back! I'm sick of taking screen shots to try to keep track of loot because I might go link dead and entering the data by hand now SUCKS. Ready to quit running ops.
Though, maybe thats what they were hoping for was to push up market prices?
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Zen Jardo
Merkhan Industries Anarchy Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.06.05 18:14:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Alijah Mercer Ready to quit running ops.
I know how you feel. I'll go on ops if someone else is handling the loot but I haven't lead one since this patch came out. This "fix" took the 15 second process of exporting the log and posting it to my custom web-app and turned it into a 10-15 minute process. Last thing I want to do at 2AM is tally loot.
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Mercenary Killa
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Posted - 2011.06.06 20:17:00 -
[99]
Bump for a fix.
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Ronkerinka
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Posted - 2011.06.07 11:47:00 -
[100]
Devs this topic still needs attention!
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Sentient Blade
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Posted - 2011.06.07 16:08:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Sentient Blade on 07/06/2011 16:09:52
I've been advised via petition to add my thoughts to this thread.
I can't stress enough my disappointment that this very useful feature was removed, and at least to my knowledge without forewarning or notice.
EvE is a complex game that requires a tremendous amount of data management to play effectively, especially when working in groups as CCP encourages us to do. Features that allow end users to better manipulate this data for their own needs are essential if players are to consider group activities enjoyable and productive.
Loot logging had its flaws (moving into cans) but it was by far and away the best mechanism available for for tracking the progress of group mining operations and ensuring both a fair distribution of payments and a reasonable live-tally of collections.
The alternative now seems to be the adding up of individual values as they come in which seems to be a dramatic step backwards, especially since as the loot data is still being collected and broadcast to the fleet - it must be in order that the current loot history works, and it is the client itself that is no longer offering a mechanism to collate this information and export it.
To illustrate the scale of this problem, with a 10 man mining fleet and an Orca for bonuses this could generate in excess of 700 individual values per hour.
I would very much like this feature to be returned, and what with the strength of feeling shown in prior posts it would be ideal if it could be expanded upon. This in order that fleet commanders and corporation managers may leverage third party tools to create the data they need, quicker, so that they may return to enjoying the game themselves rather than doing paperwork.
So yes, a re-instatement of this feature, please.
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Zen Jardo
Merkhan Industries Anarchy Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.06.09 16:42:00 -
[102]
Well said Blade. Another patch has come without mention of this. http://www.eveonline.com/patches/optional/?from=267203&to=268459
I find it disturbing that CCP isn't responding. They have had more than enough time for the devs to have a meeting and decide the fate of this feature. Keeping us in the dark is showing us disrespect.
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Kellaen
Samurai Salvaging Stellar Defense Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.10 17:14:00 -
[103]
Back to the top with you!
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Uncle Lenny
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.11 14:23:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Zen Jardo Well said Blade. Another patch has come without mention of this. http://www.eveonline.com/patches/optional/?from=267203&to=268459
I find it disturbing that CCP isn't responding. They have had more than enough time for the devs to have a meeting and decide the fate of this feature. Keeping us in the dark is showing us disrespect.
Maybe this just goes to show who the Dev's really care about. Not so much their cutomers, but rather how they "feel" about export... Sadly enough I don't see any of the Dev's having the backbone to stand up for this issue. Clearly nothing has been done, and nothing seems to be in the works.
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Uncle Lenny
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.11 23:19:00 -
[105]
Originally by: CCP Soundwave Hey guys!
We took it out because it seems like a bit of an odd piece of information for the majority of our users. In general, having import/export features aren't really something I'm thrilled with.
Then I assume you argued the issue with the new FPS monitor, and being able to export that? WTFMate?
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Almain Stavros
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Posted - 2011.06.12 05:23:00 -
[106]
We won't just go away if we're ignored CCP. Bring back this feature that you thoughtlessly took away without even a mention in the patch notes.
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Keeloux Siind
Universal Business Group
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Posted - 2011.06.12 10:47:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Almain Stavros We won't just go away if we're ignored CCP. Bring back this feature that you thoughtlessly took away without even a mention in the patch notes.
Not to burst your bubble or anything, but they mention it in the patch notes.
http://www.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp?patchlogID=226
notice the stuff written in green?
----- Build 247655 to 259851 addresses Patch Notes for Incursion 1.5
Patch Notes for Incursion 1.5
Released Thursday, May 19, 2011. Approximate download of 16 MB.
Miscellaneous
òThe ability to export loot logging has been removed. -----
Originally by: CCP Soundwave Hey guys!
We took it out because it seems like a bit of an odd piece of information for the majority of our users. In general, having import/export features aren't really something I'm thrilled with.
Although I hugely disagree with this too and I among many do not see the logic in CCP Soundwave's statement, as said before, EVE is full of export features like the API and the market export. I have my doubts as to whether this is CCP Soundwave's opinion or that of the entire CCP.
If this thread/topic is not given a decent response, one which either brings the loot log export back or at least gives a logical explanation as to why the game mechanics made it impossible to keep, then you will most likely see me at the next fanfest asking questions about the removal of the loot log export to the CCP Panel.
And lastly I have one curious question: ........majority of our users........ does that mean if it only applies to 30%, then it doesn't deserve to be in the game, because then you can pretty much dissect the whole game down to the log in screen, flying in space and trading in markets possibly remove mining, moon mining......well most of the game....because most parts of the game are not played by the majority.........."majority of our users".......come on CCP, give a better response than that.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1513581
Come on my fellow players link this thread throughout EVE, mention it to all your fellow players, ask them to comment in the thread or just to bump it, anything that will show how many players see this feature as useful.......the more we are the less CCP wants to keep the loot log export out of EVE, in the end, I believe, CCP is of players and for the players, with this feature they just failed to see how much it meant to many players.
Yours truely, Keeloux Siind
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Chang Patak
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Posted - 2011.06.12 14:04:00 -
[108]
I too wish for this to be put back. The new look of the history tab makes it very annoying when running mining ops to quickly and easily calculate the amounts I need to distribute to each person. I don't use an orca at present but would hate to be in their shoes at this point.
We can't even arrange the loot history in a particular order anymore as player names, items and amounts aren't in seperate cells...
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Zen Jardo
Merkhan Industries Anarchy Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.06.13 14:14:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Keeloux Siind Not to burst your bubble or anything, but they mention it in the patch notes.
http://www.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp?patchlogID=226
notice the stuff written in green?
The stuff in green are addendum to the patch notes. It wasn't added to the notes until we raised our voices.
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Drunein
Caldari Space Tech Innovations Dangerous By Design
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Posted - 2011.06.14 02:26:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Zen Jardo
Originally by: Keeloux Siind Not to burst your bubble or anything, but they mention it in the patch notes.
http://www.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp?patchlogID=226
notice the stuff written in green?
The stuff in green are addendum to the patch notes. It wasn't added to the notes until we raised our voices.
If that is all we get for a response to the issue, I'll be nothing shy of disgusted. ------ I play real life when I get bored. |
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Alijah Mercer
Caldari King Wholesaling
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Posted - 2011.06.15 21:51:00 -
[111]
Bump... Bring it back.
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Wendi Watson
Organization Too Secret To Know
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Posted - 2011.06.15 22:59:00 -
[112]
Where's my loot log export, CCP?
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Amber Villaneous
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Posted - 2011.06.15 23:14:00 -
[113]
Originally by: CCP Soundwave Hey guys!
We took it out because it seems like a bit of an odd piece of information for the majority of our users. In general, having import/export features aren't really something I'm thrilled with.
The majority of user don't use market log exports, please remove that functionality immediately.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2011.06.16 05:04:00 -
[114]
I didn't know this feature existed until now, but I must say that if I HAD been previously aware of it I definitely would have been using it! This sounds like a really helpful feature. Why remove a perfectly good feature like this?
- "When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed." - CCP Big Dumb Object |
Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.16 07:52:00 -
[115]
Originally by: CCP Soundwave Hey guys!
We took it out because it seems like a bit of an odd piece of information for the majority of our users. In general, having import/export features aren't really something I'm thrilled with.
So since wast majority of industrials use science&industry interface, when will that be fixed then? Takes wayy too many clickcs to do anything at all, Hell PI was fixed in recordtime in similar situation.
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Zen Jardo
Merkhan Industries Anarchy Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.06.17 15:40:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Dasola So since wast majority of industrials use science&industry interface, when will that be fixed then? Takes wayy too many clickcs to do anything at all, Hell PI was fixed in recordtime in similar situation.
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or trying to hijack this thread.
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Uncle Lenny
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.17 20:29:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Dasola
Originally by: CCP Soundwave Hey guys!
We took it out because it seems like a bit of an odd piece of information for the majority of our users. In general, having import/export features aren't really something I'm thrilled with.
So since wast majority of industrials use science&industry interface, when will that be fixed then? Takes wayy too many clickcs to do anything at all, Hell PI was fixed in recordtime in similar situation.
Wrong topic.
Loot Export needs to come back. BRING IT BACK.
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db Deckard
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Posted - 2011.06.17 23:45:00 -
[118]
WOW...I have to say... What was CCP thinking!!!! This really was a good feature. Unless we are going to get a report that tells the squad leader how many M3 or what ores where mined pleas at least restore the log files so we can figure it out. -db |
Chang Patak
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Posted - 2011.06.19 14:13:00 -
[119]
bump
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TehRoot
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Posted - 2011.06.19 20:09:00 -
[120]
bump, now that I run sleeper sites, I would like to have this feature put back.
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Terra Walker
Angel Causalities Demolition Crew
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:26:00 -
[121]
I would also like this feature back
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Tsunemasa Nagamitsu
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Posted - 2011.06.20 15:18:00 -
[122]
Originally by: CCP Soundwave Hey guys!
We took it out because it seems like a bit of an odd piece of information for the majority of our users. In general, having import/export features aren't really something I'm thrilled with.
This has got to be the stupidest response ever. I don't like it so no one does? And here I was thinking you were one of the smart ones.
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Zen Jardo
Merkhan Industries Anarchy Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.06.20 16:21:00 -
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It has been a month since Soundwave's response. The silence makes their stance perfectly clear.
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Uncle Lenny
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.21 01:59:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Zen Jardo It has been a month since Soundwave's response. The silence makes their stance perfectly clear.
Nod. I know of a few people that let accounts go simply because of this feature. They enjoyed running ops and its no longer a game, its a job having to do it without export. Shrug.
I think my accounts may be next to go.
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Almain Stavros
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Posted - 2011.06.22 01:07:00 -
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Edited by: Almain Stavros on 22/06/2011 01:07:27 Edited by: Almain Stavros on 22/06/2011 01:07:08 After over a month of no further responses from CCP in this thread, and no visible moves to rectify this issue, I believe our only course of action to bring this feature back, is to make it an issue with the CSM. (CSM = Council of Stellar Management, for the noobs.)
For this reason I have created a proposal in the Assembly Hall Forum, everyone please go, and show your support for it by posting in the thread, and clicking the "Check here if you want to give your support to the idea/discussion going on" button.
If we can get CSM to support this, we will have made this a much bigger issue then it was when it was just the lot of us complaining in the, Issues, Workarounds & Localization Forum.
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Zen Jardo
Merkhan Industries Anarchy Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:12:00 -
[126]
I posted in your thread as well.
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Cpt Greagor
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Posted - 2011.06.22 18:15:00 -
[127]
Wow...Good Job CCP, way to think ahead.
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Zen Jardo
Merkhan Industries Anarchy Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:16:00 -
[128]
Bumping this to get on top of all the graphics card crash threads. (at least for 20 minutes or so)
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Uncle Lenny
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.29 02:19:00 -
[129]
WTB Loot log Export.
Export > Monocle
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Stoned Dragonias
Amarr Southern Cross Empire Flying Dangerous
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Posted - 2011.06.29 12:15:00 -
[130]
Don't worry guys only 12000 AUR and you can buy your export log from NeX.
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Uncle Lenny
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.29 16:56:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Stoned Dragonias Don't worry guys only 12000 AUR and you can buy your export log from NeX.
I think I would do it.
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Max Kolonko
Caldari Worm Nation Ash Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.30 11:35:00 -
[132]
Edited by: Max Kolonko on 30/06/2011 11:35:44 Please CCP, we need this feature back.
I need it to calculate on the fly loot from WH to pay our corp members their share.
You already have it, why not make it available again? Max Kolonko |
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.07.01 13:13:00 -
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I will look into this
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Fearless Worthless
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Posted - 2011.07.01 17:34:00 -
[134]
Edited by: Fearless Worthless on 01/07/2011 17:35:55
Originally by: CCP Soundwave Hey guys!
We took it out because it seems like a bit of an odd piece of information for the majority of our users. In general, having import/export features aren't really something I'm thrilled with.
Ask next time.
The usefulness of a feature doesn't depend on how many people use it - in this case few, but very important users were using the feature: The people that make the game for the majority of your users. :(
Was the export option of the loot log somehow interfering with the majority of users? I don't get the reasoning behind this change at all. :(
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Max Kolonko
Caldari Worm Nation Ash Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.01 18:59:00 -
[135]
Originally by: CCP Punkturis I will look into this
Thx, waiting for some good news :) Max Kolonko |
Zen Jardo
Merkhan Industries Anarchy Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.07.01 19:36:00 -
[136]
Originally by: CCP Punkturis I will look into this
Awesome.
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.07.04 13:05:00 -
[137]
This functionality has been added back internally and will be deployed later
The menu item will be located in the settings menu in the top left corner of the fleet window.
Enjoy!
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Max Kolonko
Caldari Worm Nation Ash Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.04 15:47:00 -
[138]
Vote CCP Punkturis for new CEO :) Max Kolonko |
Miss AnnThrope
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Posted - 2011.07.04 20:22:00 -
[139]
Please bring this feature back, it's very usefull!!!!
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Uncle Lenny
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.07.05 09:20:00 -
[140]
Edited by: Uncle Lenny on 05/07/2011 09:23:10
Originally by: CCP Punkturis This functionality has been added back internally and will be deployed later
The menu item will be located in the settings menu in the top left corner of the fleet window.
Enjoy!
I'm in love!
Originally by: Max Kolonko Vote CCP Punkturis for new CEO :)
I approve this message.
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Alijah Mercer
Caldari King Wholesaling
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Posted - 2011.07.05 16:28:00 -
[141]
Originally by: CCP Punkturis This functionality has been added back internally and will be deployed later
The menu item will be located in the settings menu in the top left corner of the fleet window.
Enjoy!
I can't even begin to say thank you enough times! Thanks so much! This will certainly mean I can push back into mining ops with my crew!
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Zen Jardo
Merkhan Industries Anarchy Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.07.05 19:22:00 -
[142]
Originally by: CCP Punkturis This functionality has been added back internally and will be deployed later
Thank you so much. Your actions have gone along way toward restoring my faith in CCP.
Oh... and I 2nd the Punkturis for CEO motion. :)
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Amber Villaneous
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Posted - 2011.07.06 03:30:00 -
[143]
Originally by: CCP Punkturis This functionality has been added back internally and will be deployed later
The menu item will be located in the settings menu in the top left corner of the fleet window.
Enjoy!
No effin way! Users wanted a simple tiny little already coded element returned to the game and a Dev looked at it and said "OK"?
Someone pinch me.
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Uncle Lenny
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.07.06 09:43:00 -
[144]
This is great. So glad to see its coming back!
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.07.06 11:10:00 -
[145]
LOL!
thanks guys, glad I could make you happy
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Almain Stavros
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Posted - 2011.07.06 18:37:00 -
[146]
Originally by: CCP Punkturis I will look into this
Originally by: CCP Punkturis This functionality has been added back internally and will be deployed later
The menu item will be located in the settings menu in the top left corner of the fleet window.
Enjoy!
Originally by: CCP Punkturis LOL!
thanks guys, glad I could make you happy
CCP PUNKTURIS YOUR MY HERO!!!!!
YOU'VE RESTORED MY HOPE FOR THIS GAMES FUTURE!!!
Originally by: Max Kolonko Vote CCP Punkturis for new CEO :)
THIS! A MILLION TIMES, THIS!!!!
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Wa'roun
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.07.06 21:31:00 -
[147]
Originally by: CCP Soundwave Hey guys!
We took it out because it seems like a bit of an odd piece of information for the majority of our users. In general, having import/export features aren't really something I'm thrilled with.
This seems rather stupid. I wish there was more export functions in the wallet, etc, for Excel work.
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Agent 137
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Posted - 2011.07.09 00:53:00 -
[148]
Originally by: CCP Punkturis LOL!
thanks guys, glad I could make you happy
Haven't won my vote yet. I want it back in the game first. ;) |
Agent 137
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Posted - 2011.07.11 12:15:00 -
[149]
Bumpeh?
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Drunein
Caldari Space Tech Innovations Dangerous By Design
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Posted - 2011.07.13 12:33:00 -
[150]
When is this coming back? Anyone actually know? I thought it was supposed to come today but Idk.
Drunein. ------ I play real life when I get bored. |
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.07.14 14:03:00 -
[151]
It will be back after summer vacation, in the end of August.
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Terra Walker
Angel Causalities Demolition Crew
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Posted - 2011.08.16 00:35:00 -
[152]
Originally by: CCP Punkturis This functionality has been added back internally and will be deployed later
The menu item will be located in the settings menu in the top left corner of the fleet window.
Enjoy!
But When will it be back
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Max Kolonko
Caldari Worm Nation Ash Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.30 16:52:00 -
[153]
Edited by: Max Kolonko on 30/08/2011 16:52:26 Dear CCP Punkturis, I see no loot export in Patch Notes... pls do Your magic
Your faithfull, Max Kolonko |
Max Kolonko
Caldari Worm Nation Ash Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.01 23:21:00 -
[154]
Originally by: CCP Punkturis It will be back after summer vacation, in the end of August.
Bump. Max Kolonko |
Ydnari
Gallente Estrale Frontiers
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Posted - 2011.09.01 23:40:00 -
[155]
Originally by: CCP Punkturis It will be back after summer vacation, in the end of August.
Hello September.
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Zilero
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Posted - 2011.09.01 23:46:00 -
[156]
Sorry, we at CCP are currently too busy trying to find the current client bug making people unable to open the door in Captains Quarters.
We'll get back to you in 2017 when there are graphics cards around powerful enough to run it, then we need you to use your spare time to help us test the server load of CQ on sisi.
What was that you wanted? Something useful? Nah, look at this cool mirror in CQ! and those shiny pants and and and... the MONOCLE!
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Throatslitter
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Posted - 2011.09.01 23:47:00 -
[157]
Originally by: CCP Punkturis It will be back after summer vacation, in the end of August.
Liar! Liar! Pants on fire!
Actually, we should treat everything CCP says as a lie, that way we won't be so dissapointed after every patch.
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Zilero
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Posted - 2011.09.01 23:54:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Throatslitter
Originally by: CCP Punkturis It will be back after summer vacation, in the end of August.
Liar! Liar! Pants on fire!
Actually, we should treat everything CCP says as a lie, that way we won't be so dissapointed after every patch.
Eve is a sandbox, devs play and lie blatantly. Eve has way too much isk, CCP looking for isk sink.
Can I make a suggestion that all the recent huge heists made by corp thieves are actually CCP under cover devs?
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Greygal
Gallente Sephray Industries Serenitas Solutus
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Posted - 2011.09.03 10:04:00 -
[159]
Yippee!! Exporting loot log is back! Thank you CCP!! :)
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.09.06 15:09:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Greygal Yippee!! Exporting loot log is back! Thank you CCP!! :)
enjoy I'm sorry it was a few days late though, I didn't mean to lie to you guys!
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