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Mistress Milana
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Posted - 2011.06.01 20:38:00 -
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considering joining but here it's broken. How?
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Louis DelaBlanche
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2011.06.01 20:50:00 -
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Wouldn't say it's broken. It's just neglected. If you want a free war dec that comes with profitable agent missions but locks you out of 1/2 of highsec, you could do worse than give it a try. Join Gallente for extra bitterness in militia channel
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King Rothgar
Path of the Fallen
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Posted - 2011.06.01 21:26:00 -
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That pretty much. In FW you fight over absolutely nothing, it's all for ****s and giggles. The missions are pretty profitable and should give you an endless supply of faction frigs and cruisers. If you go run the plex's, you can get rich off the tags and occasionally get a decent 1v1 or similar fight doing it. But the plex's are mostly pretty dull unless someone comes to play with you. The pvp varies from 1v1's, missioner hunting to fleet fights. The fleet fights are often semi-arranged. There won't be any agreements on size, what will happen is one side will form up a 30-40 man fleet and just hang out till the other side does the same.
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Mekhana
Gallente
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.06.02 00:12:00 -
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Factional Warfare is fun. It's about as much pew pew you can get out of dull sec. The blobs are smaller and even t-1 frigates have their uses. You have war targets to kill, pirates and you can always go outlaw when you want.
However other than the shooting aspect a lot of the features are really bad. Like missions are easier to do on certain sides, CCP tries to balance the missions by making them more profitable for the factions that can't solo them. However a mission that you can solo in will always be better than a mission you need to fleet up for or have an alt to do it.
Now plexing is a pretty bad and time consuming. Not only the faction rats of some sides are stronger than others, like missiles and jamming but also it encourages people to fight a war with an army of alts.
I don't do missions and neither do I plex. I just point and shoot people and factional warfare is fun enough for me.
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Silence iKillYouu
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.06.02 02:11:00 -
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FW is most pvp I've had in eve.
Average kills per week can go up to 80 kills.
Lots of solo pvp
Lots of blob pvp
Some cap fight
No worries about sov or stoof.
We just want something to fight for.
You know ppl will complain about everything no matter how perfect or broken it is.
Saying FW is broken is what the 'cool' kids are doing.
It's pretty fun and sometimes u are just going from fight to fight as u read the stream of intel.
Ppl who mission let us know what's going on
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Mara Abraham
Minmatar
T.R.I.A.D
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Posted - 2011.06.02 02:20:00 -
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Good day:
I joined Minmatar Militia after spending four months in Eve University including some time in their navy.
While there are slow pvp days, it is rarely boring.
http://www.factionalwarfare.info/featured_articles/ may be helpful.
Thank you.
--- Mara Abraham
* http://www.factionalwarfare.info
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fgft Athonille
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Posted - 2011.06.02 04:44:00 -
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because its all about mission runners
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Cromwell Savage
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.06.02 05:12:00 -
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FW is what you make of it.
Free, Eve-wide 24/7/365 war-dec. Doesn't get much better than that... |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.06.02 07:38:00 -
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- Repping your own militia if they are below -5 (even if they are in your own corp) drops your faction standing.
- Rats are imbalanced in plexes
- Plexes can get stuck and won't respawn until downtime, resulting in after dt plexing being far more important than any other time depending on the occupancy map at the time
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fgft Athonille
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Posted - 2011.06.02 07:56:00 -
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 Originally by: chatgris
Those are the worse offenders IMO.
the fact its packed with alts in stealth bombers running lolmissions like girly bears would be it.
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Khalid Zamayid
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Posted - 2011.06.02 07:59:00 -
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Edited by: Khalid Zamayid on 02/06/2011 08:05:23
On top of it, the 'T1 Frigates' mentioned above is mostly limited to Minmatar ships, and most frigate-flying is done in faction or T2 frigs (Dramiel + Daredevil are the worst offenders).
Oh, and if you aren't in an established FW Corp, you probably won't be invited to any gangs or group roams, because multiaccounting is easy, and, with that, sending out spies.
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Princess Nexxala
Gallente
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.06.02 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: chatgris
- Repping your own militia if they are below -5 (even if they are in your own corp) drops your faction standing.
This! CCP fix this particular issue so I can stop ratting, you jerks :p
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Deerin
Minmatar
Murientor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.02 16:12:00 -
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I wouldn't say it is broken. FW is very fun. It is free war dec and gives you a good background for roleplaying purposes. Actually fighting the war (plexing, conquering systems etc) gives no rewards at all, but you can gain enough ISK to afford losing ships by running FW missions. Plexes provide mini Arena's for small scale skirmishes.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.06.02 20:17:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 02/06/2011 20:17:02
Originally by: Princess Nexxala
Originally by: chatgris
- Repping your own militia if they are below -5 (even if they are in your own corp) drops your faction standing.
This! CCP fix this particular issue so I can stop ratting, you jerks :p
I just spent about 6 hours ratting myself above -5, even though I have no need to leave lowsec. I hate you CCP.
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Mistress Milana
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Posted - 2011.06.02 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: chatgris
- Repping your own militia if they are below -5 (even if they are in your own corp) drops your faction standing.
- Rats are imbalanced in plexes
- Plexes can get stuck and won't respawn until downtime, resulting in after dt plexing being far more important than any other time depending on the occupancy map at the time
Those are the worse offenders IMO.
that's too bad about the plexes. i wanted to fight for gallente and i am late EST TZ player. plexing is nice but i do well enough for isk anyway so just wanted to go fight ppl.
Though, I am concerned that if I kill too many of the opposing faction, then I won't be able to enter their space once I leave FW.
If I'm looking for fights, should I stay out of hisec and go for lowsec? If so, what are some ideal hotspots to go kill the Caldari scumbags? :)
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.06.02 20:42:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 02/06/2011 20:44:20
Originally by: Mistress Milana
that's too bad about the plexes. i wanted to fight for gallente and i am late EST TZ player. plexing is nice but i do well enough for isk anyway so just wanted to go fight ppl.
Currently, respawn isn't an issue. As I understand it, plexes in gallente sov space when finished respawn somewhere else in gallente sov space, and same for caldari. However, if a gallente plex respawns in a caldari occupied system, it will get stuck until next downtime. Conversely, if the caldari manage to capture one gallente system, then the only time of day new plexes will appear in that system is right after downtime (unless a plex happens to respawn in that same system), since if the plex spawns in any other gallente controlled system, it will get stuck until next downtime.
The reason CCP left it like this is because the rats in the plex are hardcoded, and they didn't want to bother with additional logic to switch a plex with gallente rats to one with caldari rats in it, so they just leave it till downtime.
Originally by: Mistress Milana
Though, I am concerned that if I kill too many of the opposing faction, then I won't be able to enter their space once I leave FW.
You get no standing hit whatsoever for killing the opposing faction. If you kill an opposing factions pod, you lose standing to the CORPORATION, NOT FACTION. (e.g. State protectorate, which does not affect you in any way moving in caldari space once you are out of fw).
However, you do lose standing if you capture a plex or do fw missions. Rule of thumb - pve loses you standing, pvp does not.
Originally by: Mistress Milana
If I'm looking for fights, should I stay out of hisec and go for lowsec? If so, what are some ideal hotspots to go kill the Caldari scumbags? :)
Absolutely, lowsec is the place to be. Caldari mostly live in enaluri right now, but there is a smaller contingents in asakai. Caldari have been picking up in activity lately and can often be see roaming the pipes (Tama -> Villore, Enaluri -> Villore). Most active gallente base in Heyd (at least during the US TZ). Smaller numbers of plexing caldari roam around the agoze area plexing for intaki.
HTH
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BolsterBomb
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Posted - 2011.06.02 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: chatgris
Chatgris stuff
Dont listen to this guy he sits in LOL lobbies all day long and only logs into eve when a blob is found : P
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King Rothgar
Path of the Fallen
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Posted - 2011.06.02 21:49:00 -
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Edited by: King Rothgar on 02/06/2011 21:49:49
Originally by: chatgris
Edited by: chatgris on 02/06/2011 20:17:02
Originally by: Princess Nexxala
Originally by: chatgris
- Repping your own militia if they are below -5 (even if they are in your own corp) drops your faction standing.
This! CCP fix this particular issue so I can stop ratting, you jerks :p
I just spent about 6 hours ratting myself above -5, even though I have no need to leave lowsec. I hate you CCP.
It's an exceptionally annoying bug. The good thing is it is a known issue so you can petition the standing loss. I made dozens of bulk petitions about it (1 petition a week for numerous standing losses incurred over that time) and always got it back. It does take a few days however so you should leave yourself plenty of faction standing wiggle room if you're going to fly logi.
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Mutnin
Amarr
Mutineers
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Posted - 2011.06.03 09:36:00 -
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As other have said, it's not really broken as a whole, but there are annoying problems.
The biggest complaints is likely around the plexing mechanics. Example, for sov warfare as it's kind of pointless with nothing to gain/lose once systems are captured/lost. Making it pointless orbiting buttons.
The sad part is plexing could be a awesome tool to get small gang/solo fights if CCP would ever give a reason to plex. You can still get fights while plexing, but in my experience they tend to be few & far between as the enemy can just ignore you and go plex elsewhere.
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Beltantis Torrence
Wolfsbrigade
ShadowWolves.net
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Posted - 2011.06.03 13:21:00 -
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Faction warfare is fine. It's entertaining small gang PVP and the way the missions and territory things are designed game mechanics wise is great. The only thing broken about FW is that there's no real reason or incentive to take over enemy systems or defend your own, so you don't get people actually fighting over territory at all outside of like 2-3 people.
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Von Kroll
Caldari
Kroll's Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.03 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Silence iKillYouu
FW is most pvp I've had in eve.
Average kills per week can go up to 80 kills.
Lots of solo pvp
Lots of blob pvp
Some cap fight
No worries about sov
QFT... Neverending war-dec, and the ability to make enough isk to cover your ships = winsauce...
While it would be better if occupancy mattered, just the normal daily skirmishing we have is plenty satisfying. If there's one thing Old Providence taught me, its that a Cold War is better than a Hot War.
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.06.03 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Khalid Zamayid
Edited by: Khalid Zamayid on 02/06/2011 08:05:23
On top of it, the 'T1 Frigates' mentioned above is mostly limited to Minmatar ships, and most frigate-flying is done in faction or T2 frigs (Dramiel + Daredevil are the worst offenders).
- Faction ships should be counted at T2 ships for plexes. Make T1 frigs and cruisers matter again!
Otherwise what everybody else is saying. Free war dec, lots of pew.
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Super Chair
Caldari
Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2011.06.03 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: X Gallentius
Originally by: Khalid Zamayid
Edited by: Khalid Zamayid on 02/06/2011 08:05:23
On top of it, the 'T1 Frigates' mentioned above is mostly limited to Minmatar ships, and most frigate-flying is done in faction or T2 frigs (Dramiel + Daredevil are the worst offenders).
- Faction ships should be counted at T2 ships for plexes. Make T1 frigs and cruisers matter again!
Otherwise what everybody else is saying. Free war dec, lots of pew.
Yeah Xgal has the right idea, if faction frigs were counted as t2 that would be so badass. Poor/new players could plex without having to feel the need to buy a faction frig to be competitive.
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Mistress Milana
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Posted - 2011.06.04 01:13:00 -
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Just so I'm clear on the terminology; plexing is the same thing as running FW missions right?
Wasn't there a FW blog out there? I'm not sure if it's still active? I recall threads where people got all uptight about it being biased towards particular Factions or corps.
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Io Koval
Gallente
T.R.I.A.D
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Posted - 2011.06.04 03:23:00 -
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Originally by: Mistress Milana
Just so I'm clear on the terminology; plexing is the same thing as running FW missions right?
Wasn't there a FW blog out there? I'm not sure if it's still active? I recall threads where people got all uptight about it being biased towards particular Factions or corps.
There are many, but this one is a good read from a Minmatar point-of-view:
http://www.factionalwarfare.info/
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.06.04 04:05:00 -
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Originally by: Mistress Milana
Just so I'm clear on the terminology; plexing is the same thing as running FW missions right?
No. Plexes randomly show up in systems, don't pay anything and affect system occupancy. Either side can close the plex.
Missions are picked up from an agent, and pay rewards, and the opposing side can't do anything to screw up your mission (unless it's a pick up an item mission).
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San Severina
Minmatar
Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.06.04 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: chatgris
Originally by: Mistress Milana
Just so I'm clear on the terminology; plexing is the same thing as running FW missions right?
No. Plexes randomly show up in systems, don't pay anything and affect system occupancy. Either side can close the plex.
Missions are picked up from an agent, and pay rewards, and the opposing side can't do anything to screw up your mission (unless it's a pick up an item mission).
They can too, once you activate a FW mission the gate is visible until the main objective is complete, anyone can warp in and screw with you, hence pilots use missions as bait or small gangs & sometimes solo pilots spend their time grief ing & ganking mission runners.
It makes it exciting usually & sometimes a real pain in the rear but overall once you learn the ropes FW Missions are the best way to make ISK from PVE in game.
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Mistress Milana
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Posted - 2011.06.07 07:03:00 -
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I thought FW missions were more lucrative than empire missions? I tried accepting an L3 mission and its payout was far less than the typical L3 in empire.
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praznimrak
Gallente
Level Up
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Posted - 2011.06.07 13:00:00 -
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Edited by: praznimrak on 07/06/2011 13:00:07
AAAAAAA i coud not resist.
FW SUCK QUIT IT.
The most imprtant idea of fw was sitem control and fights over it,and it is broken,no nead to have any sistem in your control,no nead to run plex.FW is just a pvp playground where fleets fight each other just for fun,and mision runers make bilions whithout ever faceing a pvp situacion mostly flying stealth bombers.
What can i say,Fw faild in the begining but some of us still have fun being in here.
If you looking to log in and 5 min later have decent fight 1 vs1 or 4-5man fights,join fw and go to any plex,soner or later wt or pirats will come to fight you.
Otherwise you can join some biger corp and fly in fleets and be "shoot the primary" guy whithout even understanding what is going on(we have planty of that).
Praz
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Darcy D'Spledide
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Posted - 2011.06.07 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: praznimrak
whithout even understanding what is going on(we have planty of that)
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