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JT133
Wolfsbrigade ShadowWolves.net
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Posted - 2011.06.07 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: voiddragon As for the security concerns? Do you honestly think Sony is going to let that happen again? They're going to be working overtime until they're 100% satisfied their security holes have been plugged up.
They've been hacked about 16 times now in the span of a month or so, and multiple times since PSN went up again - including yesterday. Clicky.
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voiddragon
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Posted - 2011.06.07 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: JT133
Originally by: voiddragon As for the security concerns? Do you honestly think Sony is going to let that happen again? They're going to be working overtime until they're 100% satisfied their security holes have been plugged up.
They've been hacked about 16 times now in the span of a month or so, and multiple times since PSN went up again - including yesterday. Clicky.
Yeah... I don't think anyone can read through all of their code for security loop holes in the space of a month.
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Orlacc
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Posted - 2011.06.07 16:49:00 -
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Mr. Jobs' new "Cloud" is going to end up a disaster.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.06.07 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: JT133 They've been hacked about 16 times now in the span of a month or so, and multiple times since PSN went up again - including yesterday. Clicky.
And what does that have to do with PSN? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |

JT133
Wolfsbrigade ShadowWolves.net
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Posted - 2011.06.07 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: voiddragon Yeah... I don't think anyone can read through all of their code for security loop holes in the space of a month.
If they took security seriously they'd put anything with personal information offline and dedicate the resources needed to resolve the problem.
Sony Music Brazil's website has been defaced and sporadically online for 6 months now, ample time to fix something as simple as website, no? If they can't resolve that what hope do they have of ensuring the security of an entire gaming network?
The majority of Sony's sister companies and their websites have been victim to attacks and vulnerabilities.. it doesn't really seem like security is a major concern for them.
Originally by: Tippia And what does that have to do with PSN?
Well for one, PSN was what was originally hacked and from which millions of people had their personal information, including credit card details, stolen from. Not to mention that PSN was down for a considerably long time which meant no online services for PS3 owners. I'm just pointing out Sony's general lack of security.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.06.07 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: JT133
Originally by: Tippia And what does that have to do with PSN?
Well for one, PSN was what was originally hacked and from which millions of people had their personal information, including credit card details, stolen from. Not to mention that PSN was down for a considerably long time which meant no online services for PS3 owners. I'm just pointing out Sony's general lack of security.
Fair enough. I've just seen so many people post links to that story as some kind of proof that the updates to PSN have been pointless and in vain, and that it's now just as insecure as it was before, when the two have nothing to do with each other.
àand let's not even get into the whole topic of how companies of that scale aren't really monolithic organisations these days and how each business unit is basically a separate company under a common flag. Granted, I'm not familiar with Sony's structure, so it might not be as true for them as it is for, say, Panasonic or Samsung, or hell, even Microsoft. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |

Lana Bird
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Posted - 2011.06.07 17:11:00 -
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Sony and data security are mutually exclusive terms afaik. |

JT133
Wolfsbrigade ShadowWolves.net
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Posted - 2011.06.07 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia Fair enough. I've just seen so many people post links to that story as some kind of proof that the updates to PSN have been pointless and in vain, and that it's now just as insecure as it was before, when the two have nothing to do with each other.
àand let's not even get into the whole topic of how companies of that scale aren't really monolithic organisations these days and how each business unit is basically a separate company under a common flag. Granted, I'm not familiar with Sony's structure, so it might not be as true for them as it is for, say, Panasonic or Samsung, or hell, even Microsoft.
The sound of no trolling is nice for a change :P When Sony brought PSN back up originally users had to reset their password, unfortunately the website-based password change facility was subject to a URL exploit that meant hackers could cause further problems. Also, one was meant to be able to change their password by providing their email address and date of birth but slight problem, this information was among what the hackers originally stole..
I'm not sure of PSN's current security status, I haven't been following that avidly, but I'd assume it's secure again for the moment anyway. The problem is that the data has already been taken.
I'm not an expert on Sony's subsidiary structures either, but with the amount of areas that Sony has expanded into I'd guess that they're fairly independent entities in most regards. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.06.07 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: JT133 [When Sony brought PSN back up originally users had to reset their password, unfortunately the website-based password change facility was subject to a URL exploit that meant hackers could cause further problems. Also, one was meant to be able to change their password by providing their email address and date of birth but slight problem, this information was among what the hackers originally stole..
Yes, and that one I'm aware of.
It's just that in all this "omgz Sony sucks" madness, people tend to mix things up and make claims along the lines of PSN being hacked fortyeleven times in the last hour, and the Sony BMG is usually brought up as proof of this, which tires me. As far as I know, PSN was hacked once, and once fixed, Sony Station was hacked exploited once to gain access to a new batch of PSN passwords. Since then, various other Sony subsidiaries have been targeted as well ù none of them are particularly relevant to the security status of PSN.
That is basically the point I was making: the total number of hacks to PSN is 1+, not 98359 anc rapidly increasing as some are prone to claim. |

Mintala Arana
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.07 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: voiddragon TL;DR: Stop being a butthurt xbox360 fanboy and accept that this is not a console debate, but the PS3 is simply better for launching, maintaining and expanding Dust 514. As for the security concerns? Do you honestly think Sony is going to let that happen again? They're going to be working overtime until they're 100% satisfied their security holes have been plugged up.
This, really. Speaking as an "XBox360 fanboy" (I've owned one for years) the closed nature of the network would probably make integrating Dust with EVE Online impossible.
I am, however, rather disappointed that Dust won't come to the XBox, because I'm not going to buy a PlayStation to play one game. I've never seen a PS game (including Dust, at least so far) that made me say:
"Wow, I've got to have that console, just so I can play that!"
So I'll not be able to experience Dust for myself.
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