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tikktokk tokkzikk	Posted - 2011.06.07 20:30:00 - [1] After a few months of cearbearing I got bored (ofc) and wanted to try PvP. I bought a rifter and went to lowsec. 10 hours later I warped out with nothing, no death, no kills. I started highsec flipping and that went somewhat successfull. First day failed as I went for noobs everyone, including them would understand would die. Next day I realised this wasent the way to go so I made my first fit. I never tried mining but I understood that the only only offencive thing they got was drones... of course it had to be my only weakness! I tried to fit my own ship without instructions for the first and this is what happend: I checked the map for 0.8+ security systems (secure containers dont work in 0.8+) with lots of people and found a nice system. when I got there I warped to the first belt and found an osprey! quickly checking the ship to see if it got any drones, 20m¦! Time to put my fitting (and PvP) skills to a test. I flipped his can and sure enough, he sendt his drones after me. As this was my FIRST EVER FIGHT I was shaking and I did a few errors but never got below half shield (passive shield tank). I ransom'd the osprey for 1m and moved on to the next belt. IF YOU DONT BOTHER READ THE WHOLE THING, ATLAST READ THIS FOR EPIC LULZ! I found a rokh... A solo rokh mining into a can. I had no clue what a rokh was so I checked if he got drones, 50m¦. If I survive this I will surive anything I thought and flipped him. So my second ever fight was in a rifter against a mining rokh! he launched hobgoblins I after me and I had to put my kitting skills (which I had only read about) to a test. again I never got below 50% shield. I got a defenceless rokh pointed. I got a defenceless rokh pointed! HOLY CRAP I GOT A DEFENCELESS ROKH POINTED IN MY RIFTER! ... he got 4/5 shield and I got 1k barrage left. there is no freaking way I can get him below 3/4... time to put my social skills to a test: [ 2011.04.27 19:24:27 ] tikktokk tokkzikk > at any time, 30m to let you go and your stuff back [ 2011.04.27 19:24:28 ] ROKH_PILOT > okay the stuff is yours, let me go [ 2011.04.27 19:24:46 ] tikktokk tokkzikk > I dont care about the stuff [ 2011.04.27 19:25:30 ] tikktokk tokkzikk > Ill either have the next 15min fun of pew, pewing you are youll give me 30m and Ill give you the ores and let you go [ 2011.04.27 19:27:02 ] tikktokk tokkzikk > and you can ask OSPRAY_PILOT in local if you can trust me. [ 2011.04.27 19:27:08 ] tikktokk tokkzikk > I just did the same thing to him [ 2011.04.27 19:27:21 ] ROKH_PILOT > okay [ 2011.04.27 19:27:50 ] tikktokk tokkzikk > ok [ 2011.04.27 19:28:01 ] tikktokk tokkzikk > you got a can for your stuff? [ 2011.04.27 19:28:23 ] tikktokk tokkzikk > or Ill just make it blue? [ 2011.04.27 19:28:35 ] tikktokk tokkzikk > you dident want your stuff back? [ 2011.04.27 19:28:38 ] ROKH_PILOT > make it blue [ 2011.04.27 19:28:42 ] tikktokk tokkzikk > ok [ 2011.04.27 19:28:52 ] tikktokk tokkzikk > there is a retriver here that might steal it [ 2011.04.27 19:28:55 ] tikktokk tokkzikk > just saying [ 2011.04.27 19:29:11 ] tikktokk tokkzikk > still want me to make it blue? [ 2011.04.27 19:29:29 ] ROKH_PILOT > that stuff worth a little compared to the 30 mil i just lost [ 2011.04.27 19:29:40 ] tikktokk tokkzikk > well, you might want it? [ 2011.04.27 19:29:46 ] tikktokk tokkzikk > better than nothing? [ 2011.04.27 19:29:52 ] tikktokk tokkzikk > but ok, Ill make it blue [ 2011.04.27 19:30:11 ] ROKH_PILOT > ty [ 2011.04.27 19:30:23 ] tikktokk tokkzikk > blue¦d So he paid me 30m at 4/5 shield... if he waited a few minutes I would run out of ammo and who knows what would happend. 31m ransom on my second day isent bad I SHALL CONTINUE IN THE NEXT POST!
Keria Matsuma SniggWaffe FREE KARTTOON NOW	Posted - 2011.06.07 20:43:00 - [2] Edited by: Keria Matsuma on 07/06/2011 20:43:03 nice mate but rokhs cost 130m and you probably could have at least gotten 75 out of him. vOv not bad for your first time in PvP though :) ------- And from then on, whenever there's a bunch of animals in one place, it's called a Tzu!
tikktokk tokkzikk	Posted - 2011.06.07 21:01:00 - [3] after that I got 1-2 kills/ransoms a day. one day I meet a battle-hulk and got pwn'd more 1-2 kills/ransoms per day. I saw a can and a badger and I rushed. the badgers alt (in a frig) warped in just as I flipped. I had lots of windows opens and I couldent do anything before I closed the "add contact" window. when I finally realised what it was and closed it I was 1/2 shield and dead he was nice and gave me my stuff back but it still annoy me as I could most likely kill him if it werent for that ADD CONTACT WINDOW HIJACKING MY GAME! more 1-2 kills/ransoms... I saw a retriever mining and flipped him and he got kinda mad. the next day I saw the same retriever and flipped him again for lulz. Admiral Ackbar > IT'S A TRAP! A drake (his alt) warped in and I quickly warped out. I warped in 100km away and saw my can gone! I told my corpies (yes I joined a corp) that a drake stole from me and I started the waiting game. that drake was the biggest moron EVER! after my aggro was gone I warped to the drake and orbited him while locking and unlcoking him. that was the longest 10min I ever waited... and he just sat there waiting for my friends in a zealot and loki to help me... nice killmail I guess but he got a lolfit . so after I flipped him twice and killed his drake he move somewhere else also earlier I tricked a hulk into flipping me and my corpies ganked him. (I dident enjoy it as I feelt sorry for him since he just tried to help me) so I went back to 1-2... wait where are everyone? hello? anyone here? looks like I managed to scare everyone to either quit using cans or move... after a while I got bored of this and started to cearbear in my vexor again. END OF INTRO So here I am again, bored of cearbearing but this time I will try to PvP in low/nullsec until I do it right! so now I am looking for tips, help or other stuff that can help me find targets! I am currently roaming places with no stations and most NPC kills. I am also training for a pilgrim to help me earn money (exploring) if I manage to kill my sec status. I think I'll try to lose 20 rifter (think I got 2/20 lost so far from my highsec flipping) before I move up to something else. so no "derp, derp battlecruisers or nothing! DEEERP"! I will just make a res for the sake of it and feel free to troll, troll and whatever you do in c/p.
tikktokk tokkzikk	Posted - 2011.06.07 21:05:00 - [4] Originally by: Keria Matsuma Edited by: Keria Matsuma on 07/06/2011 20:43:03 nice mate but rokhs cost 130m and you probably could have at least gotten 75 out of him. vOv not bad for your first time in PvP though :) this was my second ransom ever, I had 1 minute to get him to give it to me and I dident have a clue what people were willing to pay so I just did that. also if I asked for more he might have stalled or something else. this count as my res!
Mupdadoodidda Bix Nood	Posted - 2011.06.07 21:38:00 - [5] The thing about ransoms is you're not meant to honor them.
tikktokk tokkzikk	Posted - 2011.06.07 22:08:00 - [6] Originally by: Mupdadoodidda Bix Nood The thing about ransoms is you're not meant to honor them. I got a bad feeling this will be an off-topic thread thx to this but: Ransoms should be honored as it is the best way to earn money as a pirate. Sadly way to many think as you and fewer and fewer are willing to pay... If everyone honored ransoms you could really ask them for anything below the ship + fit price as they knew it would spare them the time to refit. Honor = more willing to pay ransom and higher ransom. Dishonor = ransom + killmail UNTIL no one is willing to pay... And yes, I am mad as I could have made double the money if people dident dishonor...
Doom Bang Gonzo.	Posted - 2011.06.08 00:04:00 - [7] Best read on Cee n Pee in a long while. +1
El Geo Group 2	Posted - 2011.06.08 00:29:00 - [8] vexor pwns pilgrim
jimmyjam Gallente Sinner Among Saints Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2011.06.08 01:42:00 - [9] Originally by: Doom Bang Best read on Cee n Pee in a long while. +1 This :) Insert witty sig here _ _ _ _
Heavenly Voice	Posted - 2011.06.08 03:31:00 - [10] Originally by: tikktokk tokkzikk Originally by: Mupdadoodidda Bix Nood The thing about ransoms is you're not meant to honor them. I got a bad feeling this will be an off-topic thread thx to this but: Ransoms should be honored as it is the best way to earn money as a pirate. Sadly way to many think as you and fewer and fewer are willing to pay... If everyone honored ransoms you could really ask them for anything below the ship + fit price as they knew it would spare them the time to refit. Honor = more willing to pay ransom and higher ransom. Dishonor = ransom + killmail UNTIL no one is willing to pay... And yes, I am mad as I could have made double the money if people dident dishonor... This. All a man has is his honor.
tikktokk tokkzikk	Posted - 2011.06.08 18:38:00 - [11] 2 days in lowsec and I havent found anything to kill there were a few frigates but they all hugged a safespot and in the end I got caught in a gate camp... I would love it anyone were willing to share some tips (not make bm, dont use auto, blah, blah kind of tips)
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.06.08 19:15:00 - [12] I assume you are solo in frigs at the moment? If so... http://evemaps.dotlan.net/ This is your roaming buddy. USE IT! Note the list of most violent systems on the right? That's where the action is at... maybe too much action for a soloer but if you loiter in the surrounding systems you will find yourself much better opportunities than you would just roaming at random. Also check out the statistics you can look at (both on dotlan and the in game map, Dotlan is just easier visually). Compare number of jumps with number of pilots in system to get an idea of where the traffic is and where you can find people. You can also look at npc's killed if you are chasing ratters. Find where all the 1/10 2/10 plexes are and try to catch people in these (lots of people do this and you can often find a nice 1vs2 in them, although people that camp them tend to do so in tank heavy fits, watch out for blobbers. If you judge it well you can kill the camper before his backup comes in and decide to stick around for an extra kill or GTFO. Still, a good place to find a fight. Also roaming around in FW space you can catch people in their FW sites. Systems near to 0.0 entry points can also yield some activity. Head from Tama to Amamake via less secure autopilot settings (don't ACTUALLY autopilot). There are several roams you could take up that are good for action. You will learn these over time. Put Rancer and Onatoh on your avoid list. These are camped by smartbombers frequently and unless you know how to avoid getting smartied it can put a dent on your activity. No good comes from trying to pew solo in these systems unless you are pretty sure of what you are doing. Smartbombers sit just off stargates inline from common routes so that if you simply warp from one gate to the next its likely you will explode before you even load grid. To avoid smartbomb camps try to scan out the stargates before you warp to them. If this is not possible at least avoid warping to the gate directly from a stargate. Look for a celestial (planet/belt) that does not sit between the target gate and another one (possibly even a station too if there is only one or two in system). Of course this is only if you see hostiles and suspect a smartbombing battleship. If you cannot do any of this you can at least warp to your destination stargate at 100 to have a nosey. Flying less common ships will get you a fight better than overpowered pieces of shi* like Dramiels or ships people tend to be wary of like Wolves, Jags, Ishkurs... Know your ship and your enemies weaknesses. If you suspect someone has backup next door be sure you can either kill them or at least put a good dent in them before backup arrives. If you don't have time to pick your fights VERY carefully, knowing you can at least kill something before his buddies arrives gets you a kill, at the cost of dying to the backup. This is still a win since you are fighting against the odds. I like to think these people are no-risk cowards and killing one of them will make them mad even if you lose. Try to fly cheap and kill more expensive stuff, especially mixed with the above. A Rifter, Incursus or Tristan (highly underrated) can kill off an Interceptor or Dramiel surprisingly well. Most people that fly Dramiels think they are invincible and are retar*ed. If you have ab, web and scram you can likely kill them. If you have mwd and scram you can likely kill them, if they try to burn off you overheat scram and activate mwd as their own point drops you can keep them in range (om nom ENYO!). You don't REALLY need to set up lots of safespots when flying a frig but it's certainly worthwhile taking the time to make off grid bookmarks for belts in the busiest systems. If you see one person warping in to the belt you can decide to jump in too and land before they do. Amamake top belt is hilarious. Yes I quit C&P but this guy deserves some help so STFU. ~~~
tikktokk tokkzikk	Posted - 2011.06.08 19:46:00 - [13] Originally by: Lady Spank Helpfull Stuff! I tried to use dotland a few times but never understood how it worked. that "most violent system" will probably be very usefull so thank you for that I tried to check for most active systmes the last 30 minutes and most rats killed but as I couldent see sec status it was very hit and miss I also tend to set up enough safespots to be able to scan everything (if I like the system). some really usefull (and serious) info you just gave me! I appreaciate it
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.06.08 20:22:00 - [14] Edited by: Lady Spank on 08/06/2011 20:22:39 Originally by: tikktokk tokkzikk Originally by: Lady Spank Helpfull Stuff! I tried to use dotland a few times but never understood how it worked. that "most violent system" will probably be very usefull so thank you for that I tried to check for most active systmes the last 30 minutes and most rats killed but as I couldent see sec status it was very hit and miss I also tend to set up enough safespots to be able to scan everything (if I like the system). some really usefull (and serious) info you just gave me! I appreaciate it Sec status is the colour of the dotted border around the system. Red is low sec, green is high, 0.0 is black. Beyond these distinctions the sec of the system is largely irrelevant unless you care about how your sec drops change marginally from .4 to .1 (which you shouldn't). As for scanning, when you get confident, scanning from a celestial will 'enable' more fights than hiding at a safespot since anyone looking to pew can't find you hidden in a safespot, and might move on from the system rather than stick around to find you. When you get a feel for systems you wil know where to scan from to cover most of the system. Generally most systems will have most things at the centre (near the sun). A scan from planet 1 will catch the most. A good reason to stick with Dotlan for info and routefinding is so you can quickly check the solarsystem map ingame to see what celestials you can warp to to scan out a system well. When you are lurking/scanning from a celestial, be aligned to something (approack it and be moving) and have it on the selected item bar so you can one button warp to it if anything nasty appears on your overview. To scan accurately right down to 5 degrees you need to learn to do this align trick then press alt to see the bracket for your ship, release alt and click where the bracket is. If you do this right you end up with a bracket over your ship which you can line up with other brackets (asteroid belt, moon etc) to narrow down where those targets are. Zoom out when doing this as it is inaccurate close up. I'm hardly a competent scanner / roamer but when I enter system I run a scan immediately, note the numbers in local and check how many stations there are (could just be a load of people docked. Warp about to try and fully scan the system and check corp/character info while warping. Also run scans mid-warp on long warps. As you come to know players and corporations in eve you can come to understand what to expect from a system. Information like their security status and age can also help. If you want to check out a target to see what their fits are before engaging you can check on here http://eve-kill.net/?a=search. I don't always bother with that but if you are facing something that could be suicidal it might be worthwhile checking first! I tend to just jump in blind anyway since it's more fun. If you are on grid and within 100km you can 'look at' their ship to see what type of guns they have fitted. When you know what the different guns look like AND you know the common fits for ships this can let you know almost exactly how they are fit. Also take note of their speed to determine if you can kite them or shut off their mwd's or whatever you need to do. I am forgetting plenty but this should help, unless I'm just passing all my bad habits on. Oh, set long roams and try not to loiter in any system TOO long, this is the common reason people say they cant get fights, scanning down vigils sat in POSes or what have you As a pure soloer it's best to give yourself all the helpful intel you can. ~~~
tikktokk tokkzikk	Posted - 2011.06.08 20:56:00 - [15] Originally by: Lady Spank More helpfull stuff! I knew how sec status work but I cant see statestics and sec status at once (without hovering my mouse over a system) I also find myself quite good at scanning (I scanned down some guy in a safespot in empty space in just a few minutes). I used 15 min afterward to find a way to get to him (failed) I use battleclinic myself to look up people as I have no experience with eve-kill. I dont have time to check someones guns as I would need to get close FAST and I woulent see the different also moving around is a great tips thank you again for your help!
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.06.08 21:12:00 - [16] Originally by: tikktokk tokkzikk Originally by: Lady Spank More helpfull stuff! I knew how sec status work but I cant see statestics and sec status at once (without hovering my mouse over a system) I'm just trying to be clear to make sure. I'm not trying to patronise you You can see the sec status of a system at all times, its the border colour. Are you saying you need to know the difference between a 0.4 and a 0.7? This never bothers me since the rules of engagement are exactly the same. Anyway, I hope this helps you to get some more kills! ~~~
tikktokk tokkzikk	Posted - 2011.06.08 21:25:00 - [17] Edited by: tikktokk tokkzikk on 08/06/2011 21:27:54 Originally by: Lady Spank Are you saying you need to know the difference between a 0.4 and a 0.7? This never bothers me since the rules of engagement are exactly the same. Anyway, I hope this helps you to get some more kills! what do you mean? I can't fight stuff in 0.7 without flipping or...? EDIT: I still cant see statestics (such as pod kills) and sec status at the same time? or is it something I am missing? I am not used with dotland
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.06.08 21:28:00 - [18] Edited by: Lady Spank on 08/06/2011 21:32:11 DERP. I meant 0.4 and 0.1 ~~~
tikktokk tokkzikk	Posted - 2011.06.08 21:32:00 - [19] Originally by: Lady Spank Originally by: tikktokk tokkzikk Originally by: Lady Spank Are you saying you need to know the difference between a 0.4 and a 0.1? This never bothers me since the rules of engagement are exactly the same. Anyway, I hope this helps you to get some more kills! what do you mean? I can't fight stuff in 0.7 without flipping or...? OH GOD I FAILED! I meant 0.4 and 0.1 As in, low sec is low sec, the rules are the same there. I'll check my posts to see if I've goofed on this elsewhere, my bad. I need to see sec status to filter out highsec. I dont care if there were 20 people in the system the last 30 minutes and 3k rats killed if it is highsec
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.06.08 21:34:00 - [20] Edited by: Lady Spank on 08/06/2011 21:35:00 Look carefully at Dotlan. A green bordered system is high sec, red dashed border means low sec. You can see this regardless of the system info in the middle.
tikktokk tokkzikk	Posted - 2011.06.08 21:36:00 - [21] Originally by: Lady Spank Look carefully at Dotlan. A green bordered system is high sec, red dashed border means low sec. You can see this regardless of the system info in the middle. but can I see statistics (such as rats killed)?
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.06.08 21:40:00 - [22] Why do I get the feeling I'm being trolled Pick any of those stats you like from the drop down list, they will show in the middle, and the background colour of the system will change to show indicate low or high figures. MEANWHILE, regardless of what drop down statistic you choose, the BORDER colour of each system will stay the same to indicate if it is high, low or null. ~~~
tikktokk tokkzikk	Posted - 2011.06.08 21:51:00 - [23] Edited by: tikktokk tokkzikk on 08/06/2011 21:51:27 Originally by: Lady Spank Why do I get the feeling I'm being trolled Pick any of those stats you like from the drop down list, they will show in the middle, and the background colour of the system will change to show indicate low or high figures. MEANWHILE, regardless of what drop down statistic you choose, the BORDER colour of each system will stay the same to indicate if it is high, low or null. Ahh, I see! I need to click on a region to get that dropdown meny! I was just looking at the "universe". sorry about that You have really been to great help (even tho I am slow as hell )! I think I stand a much higher chance to ruining someones day thanks to you EDIT: also nice new signature
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.06.08 21:53:00 - [24] Thank god! Have fun ~~~
Dracoliche Damage Unlimited Inc	Posted - 2011.06.09 06:58:00 - [25] OMG... Content. Beautiful content. /contributes nothing further
Eli Strange Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.12 14:28:00 - [26] +1 You have inspired me to YARR! If the present world go astray, the cause is in you, in you it is to be sought. Dante Alighieri, The Divine Comedy
tikktokk tokkzikk	Posted - 2011.06.12 17:43:00 - [27] I got a probing heron a few days ago... he deserves it as he sat at 0 at planet 1. my first lowsec kill and I now got -0.25 sec status! later got paid 10m by some guys in deep null to pod me. I earned about 4m from it and got free trip to highsec also starting to regret all thos ransoms I did as I got kinda bad killboard stats now I am having a really hard time finding fights (roamed for 5 days(?) and only got 1 kill). So if you could eve-mail me your big victim-finding strategy, I would be a really happy pirate! I also found an itty 3 with lots of stabs so I couldent point him (tried to bump) so he got away . I did learn however that I can easily dock while having red aggro and I even managed to undock and get away... TWICE! me: 2 - station: 0 If you want to start with PvP I suggest you start with flipping. convo me or send me an eve-mail and I can give you a few tips
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.06.12 18:16:00 - [28] Originally by: tikktokk tokkzikk me: 2 - station: 0 \o/ You have the guts and the right attitude of getting out there and doing stuff, you will do very well in this game I am sure! Soloing really can feel tough and getting fights you are confident about can take some time and experience. The fact that you have ransomed people already is far more awesome than another tick on a killboard. DONT BECOME A KILLBOARD WHO*E! Even if you K/D ratio looks bad now, or even in the future, it just indicates a different attitude, that of getting out there and taking risks and having balls. Any competent corp will look at your killboard record and recognise that you are a soloer and won't have the 90%+ efficiency that blobtards have. I'm not hugely active at the moment so I can't really comment on current good roams but caldari/gallente militia space is a good start. ~~~
Maximillian Triton Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2011.06.13 06:17:00 - [29] Originally by: Lady Spank Originally by: tikktokk tokkzikk me: 2 - station: 0 I'm not hugely active at the moment so I can't really comment on current good roams but caldari/gallente militia space is a good start. Avoid Placid at all costs. The KWFL Republic, Blood Money Cartel, and many others are there looking to make you another smear on one of their ships, also if any of the anti-piracy corps see you pirating, they too will squash you. Just fair warning bro. Keep up the good work
Kesshisan Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.13 10:21:00 - [30] Originally by: Lady Spank DONT BECOME A KILLBOARD WHOE! Even if you K/D ratio looks bad now, or even in the future, it just indicates a different attitude, that of getting out there and taking risks and having balls. Any competent corp will look at your killboard record and recognise that you are a soloer and won't have the 90%+ efficiency that blobtards have. I like this attitude. Recently I've been "falling for bait" in order to try out fighting under controlled circumstances. I started playing EvE with a friend of mine, we were a big fat highsec carebears. We both fly big fat expensive ships around high sec and we've lost more than one ship worth over 500mil by not reading mission reports, getting too ***y, etc. So losing a few mil on a cruiser or even better, a few hundred k isk on a rifter, is no big deal for me. Sometimes I take the jetcan and fight, other times I take the jetcan and run. Personally, I like the feeling that I'm "cleaning up" the scams. :P But I do enjoy fighting to fight. I don't really care if I lose, because hey, what's a few hundred k to me? That's the price of entertainment!

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