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Das Oskold
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Posted - 2011.06.09 21:36:00 -
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ôReligion is a terminal illness whose symptoms include the loss of common sense, humility, rational thinking, and in your case, moral decency.ö - Gallente Ambassador Jacques Allirou, Caille Summit, 23220
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Lyn Farel
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.06.09 21:50:00 -
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Edited by: Lyn Farel on 09/06/2011 21:50:45 This ambassador might have not been very intelligent to say such a thing, living in such a confusion about religion and terminology. |
Tamur Theorabies
Gallente Independent Progressive Alternative
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Posted - 2011.06.09 22:51:00 -
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An illustrative example of how people are being persecuted for their faith.
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Aldrith Shutaq
Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.06.09 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Das Oskold ôAthiesm is a terminal illness whose symptoms include the loss of common sense, humility, rational thinking, and in my case, the ability to keep my mouth shut.ö
Fixed that for you.
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2011.06.09 23:10:00 -
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Oh boy, here we go again...
It is neither religion nor the lack thereof that causes people to be irrational or lack humility/etc. It is the individual person. The fact that there are both theists and atheists that are equally stupid and vain demonstrates this.
Unity Prevails. |
Victoria Stecker
Amarr Heathen Legion Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2011.06.10 00:51:00 -
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Ah, but they are far to concerned with being right to care about being arrogant or vain. Humility is one of the first things sacrificed in the search for truth.
... I must be drinking, that actually sounded profound. - In the embrace of Hell, I am no longer afraid, for with His damned embrace, I have become that which I once most feared: Death. |
Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.06.10 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: Aldrith Shutaq
Originally by: Das Oskold ôAthiesm is a terminal illness whose symptoms include rationality.ö
Fixed that for you.
Fixed that for you. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Jason Galente
Gallente Sentinels Academy Sentinel Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.10 01:31:00 -
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Greatest ambassador ever, just because he had the balls to say that...
Curious about what the response was.
I know where I will be when my time comes. What remains to be determined is when I get there. |
Aldrith Shutaq
Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.06.10 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Originally by: Aldrith Shutaq
Originally by: Das Oskold ôLife is a terminal illness whose symptoms include stupidity.ö
Fixed that for you.
Fixed that for you.
Fixed again so that no one can argue with it.
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Graelyn
Amarr Adamant Edge Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2011.06.10 02:44:00 -
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Because surely, The Amarr Faith is the only religion in the Galaxy...
How do Gallente politicians insult their own public and remain in office?
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Ston Momaki
Caldari Disciples of Ston
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Posted - 2011.06.10 02:53:00 -
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"Religion pure and undefiled is this, to look after widows and orphans in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world..." (a quote from a very spiritual person who was very critical of religion) The Disciples of Ston bid you peace.
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Jason Galente
Gallente Sentinels Academy Sentinel Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.10 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: Graelyn Because surely, The Amarr Faith is the only religion in the Galaxy...
How do Gallente politicians insult their own public and remain in office?
*shrugs* I guess it's the 'Insult everyone, insult no one' philosophy.
I know where I will be when my time comes. What remains to be determined is when I get there. |
Honorius Vitellius
Amarr Defensores Fidei Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.10 04:25:00 -
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This ôambassadorö shows a clear inability to pursue any diplomatic activity with common sense, humility, rational thinking, and moral decency. By his own flawed logic, what should this situation indicate?
"There will be neither compassion nor mercy; Nor peace, nor solace For those who bear witness to these Signs And still do not believe." |
Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.06.10 05:51:00 -
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Originally by: Honorius Vitellius This ôambassadorö shows a clear inability to pursue any diplomatic activity with common sense, humility, rational thinking, and moral decency.
No he doesn't.
He just said one thing you didn't like. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Karmilla Strife
Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.06.10 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: Das Oskold "and in your case, moral decency.ö - Gallente Ambassador Jacques Allirou, Caille Summit, 23220
Ably spoken by an ambassador of the culture that brought us holo-**** and transparent clothing. Of course his argument falls flat when we see how our terminal illness has lead to such a long-lived society. |
Kontrahage
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.06.10 07:29:00 -
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Edited by: Kontrahage on 10/06/2011 07:30:18
Originally by: Das Oskold ôReligion is a terminal illness whose symptoms include the loss of common sense, humility, rational thinking, and in your case, moral decency.ö - Gallente Ambassador Jacques Allirou, Caille Summit, 23220
It confuses me that a representative of a truly liberal, tolerant and pluralistic society containing countles ethnicities and religions would say such a thing. Have there been any consequences or is this just another example of the gallentean bigotry?
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.06.10 07:59:00 -
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Originally by: Karmilla Strife Ably spoken by an ambassador of the culture that brought us holo-**** and transparent clothing. Of course his argument falls flat when we see how our terminal illness has lead to such a long-lived society.
A long-lived society that not only could not in two thousand years make the same technological progress the Federation made in five hundred, but destroyed almost all progress made by another. A society that successfully committed a genocide. A society that attempts to not only conquer but utterly destroy cultures purely out of monumental vanity. A society that attributes nine generations of sin to those not of its chosen ethnicity, but refuses to take any responsibility for its actions.
The Empire is morally degenerate and is inhabited by moral degenerates.
And for your information, do you know what else is long-lived?
Syphillis. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.10 08:55:00 -
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Yet more anti-Amarrian propaganda from the Gallentean ruling caste.
Truly, they are servants of the Deceiver.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Arokh Ken'shar
Minmatar Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.10 12:59:00 -
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One thing to say.
Adults with imaginary friends are stupid.
Thank you for not littering your mind.
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Sylorin
Caldari MMZ Laboratories LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.10 13:34:00 -
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To the best of our scientific ability, there is no conclusive evidence to prove the existance of God.
Of course, there's no conclusive evidence to disprove the existance of God.
Faith is best left up to the individual, but just in case the faithful are right, it dosen't hurt to be polite about the subject.
*The opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the opinions of MMZ Labs, LLC. |
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Valerie Valate
Amarr Church of The Crimson Saviour
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Posted - 2011.06.10 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Graelyn How do Gallente politicians insult their own public and remain in office?
It is possible he did not.
1. Many Intaki work in the Federations civil service. 2. Many Intaki are religious, e.g. the Ida thing and the Reborn. 3. Civil servants enjoy embarrassing politicians.
So, I suspect that this quote from the Ambassador was leaked by an Intaki civil servant, which would eventually lead to the Ambassador being recalled and dismissed as being unsuitable for office. _________________________________________
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Althus Treefingers
Minmatar Voluval Security Services
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Posted - 2011.06.10 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Das Oskold ôReligion is a terminal illness whose symptoms include the loss of common sense, humility, rational thinking, and in your case, moral decency.ö - Gallente Ambassador Jacques Allirou, Caille Summit, 23220
Ugh... as if that settles anything.
Life is the terminal illness. No matter how you live it, it ends. Even we capsuleers can't outlive the universe. You and everyone and everything that carries your memory will someday be as gone as anything can be; you will forget and be forgotten. In light of this, Mr. Ambassador's self-righteousness is exactly as justified as that of this smug-looking paperweight on my desk.
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Nausea
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.06.10 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Das Oskold ôReligion is a terminal illness whose symptoms include the loss of common sense, humility, rational thinking, and in your case, moral decency.ö - Gallente Ambassador Jacques Allirou, Caille Summit, 23220
A provocative statement that is decidedly more sweeping than you may want to make it, pilot Oskold. It may originally have been addressed to an Amarrian. It just as easily could have been aimed at a member of the Sani Sabik.
Or an Intaki Reborn.
Or an Achuran.
Or a Minmatar seeking to rediscover his culture's spirtuality.
Or any of a number of groups with spiritual beliefs that don't happen to be Amarrian.
I'm ambivalent, neutral, have no real thoughts on religion, any of them, one way or another. There are certainly many reasons to be dislike the Empire.
Attacking them merely because they have religious beliefs, (and not, say, any specific beliefs), as that statement does, is not one of them. ----
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Lyn Farel
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.06.10 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Victoria Stecker Humility is one of the first things sacrificed in the search for truth.
... I must be drinking, that actually sounded profound.
I think that you must be drunk, indeed. I am sober and that sounds totally illogical.
The search for Truth has nothing to do with hubris. You have to be humble and open minded for that to work properly.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.06.10 18:11:00 -
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Edited by: Andreus Ixiris on 10/06/2011 18:11:24
Originally by: Rodj Blake Yet more anti-Amarrian propaganda from the Gallentean ruling caste.
Truly, they are servants of the Deceiver.
You can't be a serveant of the Deceiver if you're telling the honest truth. I'd say I'm sorry that the truth offends you, but that would be... well, dishonest. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Unit XS365BT
Unit Commune Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2011.06.10 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Das Oskold ôReligion is a terminal illness whose symptoms include the loss of common sense, humility, rational thinking, and in your case, moral decency.ö - Gallente Ambassador Jacques Allirou, Caille Summit, 23220
As with it seems almost any quote referenced by capsuleers regarding this particular topic, it would seem that this one has been taken out of context and subsequently used in a transparent attempt to stir some form of conflict.
We request that the initiator of this topic release a full transcript of the conversation or monologue this quote was taken from, as it would seem to be aimed at a specific individual, and knowledge of whom would, in our opinion, likely stem a large portion of the indignation caused.
We Return.
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Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.06.10 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Galente Greatest ambassador ever, just because he had the balls to say that...
Curious about what the response was.
In the Federation? Thunderous applause. That was neither risky nor controversial considering his audience. I can't heal stupid
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.06.10 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: Aiwha In the Federation? Thunderous applause. That was neither risky nor controversial considering his audience.
And that's a beautiful thing. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Arista Shahni
Amarr Murasaki Mining and Manufacturing
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Posted - 2011.06.11 02:09:00 -
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Sometimes it is a beautiful thing to not care about the words of politicians.
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Kentt Em'asep
Minmatar Sec Det 125
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Posted - 2011.06.11 05:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Galente Greatest ambassador ever, just because he had the balls to say that...
Curious about what the response was.
Originally by: Unit XS365BT
We request that the initiator of this topic release a full transcript of the conversation or monologue this quote was taken from
I did a bit of research and came up with this context out of a book called Theodicy which can be found in the archives here. The quote is found near the end at the beginning of chapter 6. I have been enjoying this book since I found it.
That same exact quote is also found in other articles like this one about a United Federation of Eurondia, somewhere near the start. The rest is just about its government and stuff.
I also searched throughout other areas but all are just bits and pieces. Another speaker whom is part of this speech is a Oturus Feinz, an Amarrian Ambassador ----
When I fly my ship, I feal like a little fly compared to all you folks... just try and swat me away, I'll just evade and come back to annoy you some more.- Kentt Em'asep |
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