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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.06.11 16:49:00 -
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As your big, impressive countdown clock reminds us, CCP, there are only nine days and seven hours left before this expansion hits, CCP. I think we've done all the testing we can realistically do of the Minmatar quarters. We've had several weeks to test them, and even if you release the other racial CQs this very instant, we're only going to have just over a week to test the other three races, so if you actually want us to do some testing, they had better hit Singularity pretty soon. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Khaine Beralt
SOL Group Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.11 17:31:00 -
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Yeah I was wondering about that.
I think most of the testing done in the Minmatar quarters was to straighten out the Incarna tech itself and not the models and textures and basic living space. I'm guessing/hoping it takes less time and effort to snap the pieces together now that they've got the makings down pat.
But I share your anxieties
tick tock tick tock 3 more races
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Salpun
Gallente Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.06.11 18:10:00 -
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If they think the tech is stable enough they may push the other 3 directly to TQ. I do not think that is the case becouse they now test everything on Sisi before deployment testing schedule.
My last though is it takes less time to go for final form if the base tech is not changing under you feet. Goes the same for textures. They have the specs they are going to stick with for the diffrent levels of detail hopefully. Rest is touchup work.
I give it till Mid week. Monday for final touches, Tuesday for devblog writeup and final mass test on turrets. Wendesday for deploy and devblog. 2 Days for final tweaks. We shell see, was hoping for some word today during the alliance turnament.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.06.11 18:40:00 -
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The Incarna tech itself seems pretty damn robust, but that's what I've come to expect from CCP. They are good at implementing infrastructure and barebones systems. But the fact is, yes, we now know that the Incarna tech works, and that there aren't any graphical or clipping errors in the Minmatar quarters. It would still be good to check that there weren't specific issues with the other racial CQs. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2011.06.11 18:55:00 -
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The other CQs have allready had screen shots posted.
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Salpun
Gallente Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.06.11 19:07:00 -
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Full color finished state pictures tell us more .
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Felo Maxun
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Posted - 2011.06.11 20:00:00 -
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I get the feeling that CCP have forgotten to tell us that they wont be released with incarna and will come at a later date. That or they are gambling ... a lot
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2011.06.11 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Salpun Full color finished state pictures tell us more .
eee I posted them before it's just the pieces textured but not laid out, and an untexture block in.
but it's obvious is can't be too much work... right ccp?
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Tichu Tilyon
Ordo Drakonis Nulli Tertius
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Posted - 2011.06.11 21:39:00 -
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IMO they release just the minmatar CQ in 9days, the other 3 will come later, or soonÖ.
It's a shame because the other CQ are looking very good too from the concept art.
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Ishnadriel
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Posted - 2011.06.11 21:42:00 -
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I can be wrong... but if we see it clearly the splash boot screen shows a rifter and minmatar quarters and even the banner on official webpage is minmatar quarters. So my guess is that initially they will only release minmatar quarters and later the others which is a shame imo however if we read the last blog related to incarna the DEV clearly states "this build is still restricted to minmatar quarters" from which we can assume there will be another quarters....
One can only hope, cross your fingers.
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Jonathan Malcom
Gallente Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.06.11 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Felo Maxun I get the feeling that CCP have forgotten to tell us that they wont be released with incarna and will come at a later date.
This is what's actually going on.
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Flamespar
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Posted - 2011.06.11 23:07:00 -
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Lol.
All are going in. They are only letting us test the Minmater quarters cause they only want feedback on the underlying technology and it's performance. Not the layout and appearance of the room itself.
But please. Continue with your 'I want it now' whining. I makes me smile ever so much.
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Futar Csav0
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Posted - 2011.06.11 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: Flamespar Lol.
All are going in. They are only letting us test the Minmater quarters cause they only want feedback on the underlying technology and it's performance. Not the layout and appearance of the room itself.
But please. Continue with your 'I want it now' whining. I makes me smile ever so much.
I will have to re-quote you in 9 days and we shall see who will smile then. It's totaly dump not to test the whole content, I'm 99% sure only minmatar CQ will go live in 21st june.
But I guess will have to wait and see.
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Soden Rah
Gallente EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.06.12 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Flamespar Lol.
All are going in. They are only letting us test the Minmater quarters cause they only want feedback on the underlying technology and it's performance. Not the layout and appearance of the room itself.
But please. Continue with your 'I want it now' whining. I makes me smile ever so much.
Actually they do (as stated) want feedback on appearance. And room layout has an effect on things like pathing, plus different panels/textures... all need testing.
also there is whatever code makes the right CQ appear in the correct stations, and I am sure a host of other things under the hood that would make only testing one CQ and then releasing all of them pretty dim.... Not to say CCP wont do it of course.... But it will be dim none the less. __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function 
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Felo Maxun
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Posted - 2011.06.12 13:16:00 -
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Seems we are not getting them in 9 days, it also seems CCP have given up with expansions and prefer rolling out content here and there without ever completing the expansion ( subsystems ) http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1525875
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Sunji Togenada
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Posted - 2011.06.12 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Flamespar Lol.
All are going in. They are only letting us test the Minmater quarters cause they only want feedback on the underlying technology and it's performance. Not the layout and appearance of the room itself.
But please. Continue with your 'I want it now' whining. I makes me smile ever so much.
Originally by: CCP Manifest
Will we get all 4 races CQ's on launch? As soon a possible after the 21.
Linkage
Commence forum backpedaling countermeasures
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Talin Ransara
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Posted - 2011.06.12 19:26:00 -
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Screw that jazz CCP. Just wait and release them all at once. An yes it would be nice if you told us that ahead of time instead of after you start a bloody countdown!
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Flamespar
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Posted - 2011.06.12 22:58:00 -
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If true. Then the most talked about expansion of the last 4 years is going to be a massive anti-climax. Maybe it's why they haven't done much promotion of it.
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Salpun
Gallente Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.06.12 23:20:00 -
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Better to get it working and then promote it. I think we will get the rest sooner rather then later.
Better to wait on the rest then deploy 3 and wait on the forth. Simplifies the bug reporting to.
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Forumena Altair
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Posted - 2011.06.13 06:26:00 -
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Originally by: Sunji Togenada
Originally by: Flamespar Lol.
All are going in. They are only letting us test the Minmater quarters cause they only want feedback on the underlying technology and it's performance. Not the layout and appearance of the room itself.
But please. Continue with your 'I want it now' whining. I makes me smile ever so much.
Originally by: CCP Manifest
Will we get all 4 races CQ's on launch? As soon a possible after the 21.
Linkage
Commence forum backpedaling countermeasures
I knew it. 
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Shivus Tao
Minmatar Broski Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.06.13 07:47:00 -
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It's for roleplay purposes guys! Other races engineers don't work as fast minmatar engineers, and duct tape is extremely quick to install. Other races are stuck using actual alloys and other silly construction materials.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2011.06.13 09:09:00 -
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CCP, i LOVE minmatar, it's all I fly.
but really? only minmatar? the ugliest CQ for all new playerS? Do you really want to introduce players to eve with a trashbag by the door?
Do you really want to introduce players to eve with a trash bag by the door?
no joking around, delay the expansion, CQs are going to introduce players to eve. you already killed all of the racial clothing, now you'll make players think the races mean nothing in eve.
A caldari characters should not be waking up in a minmatar quarter day 1. wtf CCP, delay this ****.
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Katrishar
Minmatar Rayn Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.06.13 12:47:00 -
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I'm with MotherMoon on that one; kinda lame that they can get 1 small room into an expansion release, but they can't get 4 small rooms in. I'm still holding out some hope that the community dev was wrong and that they will "surprise" us with all 4 rooms.
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Soden Rah
Gallente EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.06.13 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Katrishar I'm with MotherMoon on that one; kinda lame that they can get 1 small room into an expansion release, but they can't get 4 small rooms in. I'm still holding out some hope that the community dev was wrong and that they will "surprise" us with all 4 rooms.
I still have to disagree, if final stress testing (subjecting it to us on TQ) is easier with one CQ at a time then I have no problem releasing it that way. as I say its an issue that gets resolved fairly quickly as they release the successive CQ's... Whereas is there are design flaws like not keeping the old hanger view... they don't go away with the successive patches... so I think that they are a much better use of time and effort to try to get changed.
Plus whining about HOW patches get released, given that staggered releases like this were one of the things we as players asked for, justifies some of the people criticising us as whiners with no point. __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function 
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Ogogov
Gallente Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.06.13 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Soden Rah
Plus whining about HOW patches get released, given that staggered releases like this were one of the things we as players asked for, justifies some of the people criticising us as whiners with no point.
This.
I'm disappointed that we won't be seeing a fairer distribution of effort put into each racial CQ, but by the same token I understand that most of CCP's resources are going into Dust and WoD right now, and therefore they can't deliver the promised content.
Given the miniscule resources they HAVE chosen to dedicate to Eve, I'd rather have a finished and polished CQ that works instead of four ugly, slow and buggy racial CQ's. |

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.06.13 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Soden Rah
Originally by: Katrishar I'm with MotherMoon on that one; kinda lame that they can get 1 small room into an expansion release, but they can't get 4 small rooms in. I'm still holding out some hope that the community dev was wrong and that they will "surprise" us with all 4 rooms.
I still have to disagree, if final stress testing (subjecting it to us on TQ) is easier with one CQ at a time then I have no problem releasing it that way.
What's there to be 'stress tested' on TQ? There is no multiplayer environment, there is no gameplay, there is just a small set of 3d models with some textures.
I just can't see any practical benefit to this kind of release. All that I can see is mismanagement and disingenuity. ... If you like choice please support this topic in the Assembly Hall. Thanks.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.06.13 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ogogov This.
I'm disappointed that we won't be seeing a fairer distribution of effort put into each racial CQ, but by the same token I understand that most of CCP's resources are going into Dust and WoD right now, and therefore they can't deliver the promised content.
That's not a ****ing excuse! ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.06.13 16:28:00 -
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As someone who is looking forward to Incarna and not one of the anti-Incarna forum QQers, I have to say this release of a single CQ comes across as really shoddy to me. Almost embarrassingly so.
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Aston Martin DB5
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Posted - 2011.06.13 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jada Maroo As someone who is looking forward to Incarna and not one of the anti-Incarna forum QQers, I have to say this release of a single CQ comes across as really shoddy to me. Almost embarrassingly so.
I think a lot of time and energy is being invested into Dust and the Vampire Slayer.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2011.06.13 17:51:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 13/06/2011 17:52:26
Originally by: Soden Rah
Originally by: Katrishar I'm with MotherMoon on that one; kinda lame that they can get 1 small room into an expansion release, but they can't get 4 small rooms in. I'm still holding out some hope that the community dev was wrong and that they will "surprise" us with all 4 rooms.
I still have to disagree, if final stress testing (subjecting it to us on TQ) is easier with one CQ at a time then I have no problem releasing it that way.
If it was just because they want stress testing on TQ, there would be screenshots/video of the other CQs.
this is just due to the fact that other ones aren't done, that's it.
also eve has 3 times the number of devs working on it right now then when I played 6 years ago. Don't say eve has barely any resources going into it, it makes you look spoiled.
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Ogogov
Gallente Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.06.13 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Originally by: Ogogov This.
I'm disappointed that we won't be seeing a fairer distribution of effort put into each racial CQ, but by the same token I understand that most of CCP's resources are going into Dust and WoD right now, and therefore they can't deliver the promised content.
That's not a ****ing excuse!
Too damned right, it's not!
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Katrishar
Minmatar Rayn Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.06.13 18:37:00 -
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I'm really not trying to whine and complain, but like, I'm just of the belief that an "expansion" should hit with more in it. I'll get over it and enjoy June 21st either way I'm sure, it's just that the feature set for Incarna 1.0 should me more complete in my opinion. Call me shallow, but I'd really like to see all 4 rooms AND that main video screen market ticker on day 1. Either way, with a week to go, they may want to put out a dev blog or something to set day 1 expectations for the subscriber base. Responding to that Eve University guy's forum post is better than nothing though I guess.
Another thing is that I have a bunch of people I'm trying to sell on the idea of trying a buddy account and get into the game come Incarna 1.0 .
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Lamiamoto Serrotta
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Posted - 2011.06.14 11:51:00 -
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This whole Minmatar adversiting...I think it's a way to tell people that minmatar are overpowered.
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Tiny Montgomery
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Posted - 2011.06.14 15:48:00 -
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The fact that this seems to be flying under the radar is going to result in more forum rage on the 21st. CCP would be advised to make this clearer on their feature page, to pre-empt some of that.
Also, I agree with what others are saying, this "expansion" feels pretty light with only 1 CQ deployed. While there is a lot of new underlying tech being deployed in Incarna, and the gradual implementation of expansions makes practical sense, from a player (and a marketing) perspective its a bit flat. Even with the assumption that all 4 CQ were being deployed, that Incarna feature page wasn't particularly exciting. I wouldn't be surprised if CCP changed strategies again, post DUST. This "EXPANSION light" approach is unlikely to make enough of a splash.
On a side note, odds are good that Gallente will be the last CQ deployed. Maybe it'll even be deployed along with a hybrid nerf.
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Mag Theron
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.15 07:25:00 -
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While I appreciate all the effort that has gone into the captain's quarters so far, I'm disappointed that only the Minmatar CQ is being released at the end of June. I'm also disappointed that CCP didn't think that this was worth mentioning until prompted by members of the community.
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Swynet
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.15 10:35:00 -
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The only thin we absolutely need in Matar CQ's is a pair of slave matar girls to have some fun.
Every thing else is perfectly rusted 
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.15 11:08:00 -
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I would like to see the trashbag removed. It really does not belong into the personal quarter of members of mankinds elite.
Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Flamespar
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Posted - 2011.06.15 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Deviana Sevidon I would like to see the trashbag removed. It really does not belong into the personal quarter of members of mankinds elite.
What trash bag? There is no trash bag in my CQ.
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Night Epoch
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2011.06.16 02:16:00 -
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There was one by the entrance (from the hangar area) as I recall (I haven't played the very latest sisi build though)
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Commissar Kate
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2011.06.16 02:31:00 -
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Originally by: Deviana Sevidon I would like to see the trashbag removed. It really does not belong into the personal quarter of members of mankinds elite.
It's not there anymore, just a couple of 425mm shell casings now.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2011.06.16 04:51:00 -
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Originally by: Commissar Kate
Originally by: Deviana Sevidon I would like to see the trashbag removed. It really does not belong into the personal quarter of members of mankinds elite.
It's not there anymore, just a couple of 425mm shell casings now.
what? bull****! it was very minmatar. It just wasn't very... non-minmatar. I mean I guess removing it removed the most minmatar part of the CQ thus making it a LITTLE better for non-matar stations. But that really wasn't the point.
They better put it back once we get the racial CQs... unless... we won't get them.
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