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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.12 11:06:00 -
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the problem with medium long-range turrets is that their range and tracking is about the same as short-range large turrets. good luck fiddling around with medium rails when the next best abaddon or tornado comes along.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
61
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Posted - 2012.09.12 11:31:00 -
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Finally....Justice for the Vaga's hull, also confirming moa needs serious attention. |
Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
177
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Posted - 2012.09.12 23:28:00 -
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Xpaulusx wrote:Finally....Justice for the Vaga's hull, also confirming moa needs serious attention.
The moa would look decent if it wan't bent like it just hit a planetoid at high-speed and bent to frame...
I said down once and using photoshop kind of un-bent it out and it looks rather nice then. Look at all the Macks in local...impressive... very impressive... I see you have fashioned a new exhumer... much like you father's... your skills as a miner are now complete...indeed you are powerful as CCP Devs have foreseen... |
Cephelange du'Krevviq
Hephaestus LLC Get Off My Lawn
52
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Posted - 2012.09.13 03:26:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Cephelange du'Krevviq wrote:Dato Koppla wrote:Screw the ears, Moa might be getting the Merlin treatment, oh god.......buy ALL the Moas!
$10 says the Caracal will still suck.
Edit// Typo That'd be nice - pure gunboat hawtness. I hope they do not do this. It is bad enough they took the lazy way out with the Merlin instead of fixing the problem. I don't want to see the Moa go down that road. I want it to be a ship that is primarily used with Rail Guns as intended and Deadly with them as it should be. If that means tweaking medium LR weapon balance then so be it. There aren't any current T1 Cruisers that use LR weapons effectively and that should be looked into.
I didn't say anywhere about making it a blaster boat; I said gunboat hawtness. |
Mars Theran
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
280
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Posted - 2012.09.14 02:18:00 -
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I might actually fly that.
I really didn't like the Stabber or Vagabond as they are, or were. I also din't like mounting guns on them, because they are twice the size of the ship.. okay, maybe a little less than half the size individually. It also doesn't seem to matter which guns; small or medium they all look the same.
A better hull will be nice though.
For some reason, I think of mud-green paisleys every time I think of the Stabber. I have deleted and cleared my signature 7 times and it still won't go away. |
Marcus Caspius
63
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Posted - 2012.09.14 04:05:00 -
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Yaaayeeee! Grammatical error and spelling mistakes are included for your entertainment!
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Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
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Posted - 2012.09.14 09:48:00 -
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Darius Brinn wrote:
I have Minnie cruiser V. I have HACs V. I never bought a Vagabond.
Darius Brinn wrote:
Give the Vagabond an additional 10% agility bonus per HAC level. Give the Vagabond an additional 5% optimal bonus per HAC level.
It shows. .stillwater |
Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
330
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Posted - 2012.09.14 09:58:00 -
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I think the most important thing to note is that it looks like it might get the classic 'Huginn Green' engine trails
Epic Win There should be a rather awesome pic here |
CorInaXeraL
Order of the Silver Dragons Silver Dragonz
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Posted - 2012.09.19 13:45:00 -
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Copine Callmeknau wrote:I think the most important thing to note is that it looks like it might get the classic 'Huginn Green' engine trails
Epic Win
I do, admittedly, miss the green contrails from my Vigilant. Getting them back somewhere would be nice. |
Darius Brinn
Iberians Iberians.
113
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Posted - 2012.09.19 13:56:00 -
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Leopold Caine wrote:Darius Brinn wrote:
I have Minnie cruiser V. I have HACs V. I never bought a Vagabond.
Darius Brinn wrote:
Give the Vagabond an additional 10% agility bonus per HAC level. Give the Vagabond an additional 5% optimal bonus per HAC level.
It shows.
It shows that you are a condescending clown, or maybe it means that, for you, the word "context" would be as comprehensible if written in Klingon.
I was merely stating, in a light tone, that I like the new proposed hull looks so much that I'd rather have them than absurd sets of additional bonus.
I was not quoting the exact bonus of the Vagabond, or proposing sets of bonus that would go well with the current ones, but just random and unconnected buffs to state how beautiful it's going to look. Which is what everybody with a living brain cell understood.
Thank you very much.
Also, I can see you are a dedicated Vagabond pilot. I absolutely love your scanning Vagabonds. Specially your scanning NANO Vagabonds that get caught by Battleships. Those BS's must have been packing a helluva lot of SeBos, right? Or was it the Command ship?
Most probably you were busy looking down your nose at people while you forgot to warp.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=16418012 |
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Cutter Isaacson
Nouvelle Rouvenor
1401
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Posted - 2012.09.19 18:39:00 -
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Can you guys not crap up my thread thank you very much. I'm trying to repair my Hyperdrive, this is the maintenance hatch. Now stop asking silly questions and pass me the Hydrospanner. |
Darius Brinn
Iberians Iberians.
114
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:49:00 -
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:Can you guys not crap up my thread thank you very much.
I beg your pardon.
Back on track, I like A LOT how CCP managed to convey both the utilitary and "barebones" Minmatar style with new textures and new design concepts & trends. The ship does look QUITE Minmatar, but at the same time looks shiny, solid and well built, unline the current model.
They could renew all the Minmatar line with this kind of approach and I would be very happy indeed.
The best thing is how CCP designers manage to avoid overlapping styles between races. Each race retains their own flavor through all graphic overhauls.
I love the new Hound and I love the new Stabber/Vagabond hull. I wish they did the Cyclone next.
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Cutter Isaacson
Nouvelle Rouvenor
1411
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Posted - 2012.09.20 11:23:00 -
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It seems as though the design ethic apparent in the new Vagabond is being carried over to the re-design of another Minmatar classic, namely the Tempest.
Bare in mind these are incomplete models at this time and are not fully rendered. They do however look sexy as hell.
Tempest Picture 1
Tempest Picture 2
Tempest Picture 3
Tempest Picture 4
Pics courtesy of Joelleaveek. Images taken on Duality server. I'm trying to repair my Hyperdrive, this is the maintenance hatch. Now stop asking silly questions and pass me the Hydrospanner. |
Eli Green
The Arrow Project
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Posted - 2012.09.20 11:29:00 -
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:It seems as though the design ethic apparent in the new Vagabond is being carried over to the re-design of another Minmatar classic, namely the Tempest. Bare in mind these are incomplete models at this time and are not fully rendered. They do however look sexy as hell. Tempest Picture 1Tempest Picture 2Tempest Picture 3Tempest Picture 4Pics courtesy of Joelleaveek. Images taken on Duality server.
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Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.20 12:00:00 -
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Never mind - talking rubbish. |
Arrigo Glokta
15
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Posted - 2012.09.20 12:15:00 -
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I do NOT like the design of Minmatar ships....
I love the look of this bad boy! Gotta fly this. Looking forward to this coming on to TQ.
New Stabber / Vaga also are sweet as hell. |
Maeltstome
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Intrepid Crossing
84
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Posted - 2012.09.20 12:40:00 -
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posting in an epic sailboats thread. |
Darius Brinn
Iberians Iberians.
115
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Posted - 2012.09.20 12:44:00 -
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Arrigo Glokta wrote:I do NOT like the design of Minmatar ships.... I love the look of this bad boy! Gotta fly this. Looking forward to this coming on to TQ. New Stabber / Vaga also are sweet as hell.
Me too. Extremely pleased with the new theme for Minmatar hulls. |
Cutter Isaacson
Nouvelle Rouvenor
1426
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Posted - 2012.09.20 12:46:00 -
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The next step is making the Typhoon look like something other than a toilet roll tube with spikes on it. The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination. |
ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Executive Outcomes
233
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Posted - 2012.09.20 13:09:00 -
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:The next step is making the Typhoon look like something other than a toilet roll tube with spikes on it.
Dont you dare touch my phoon! - Nulla Curas |
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Mizhir
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.20 13:13:00 -
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That looks amazing. Love the way they make the assymetrical design look awesome. |
Jon Joringer
Zero-K
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Posted - 2012.09.20 17:34:00 -
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I'm liking the new Tempest. The 'bridge' area looks a bit strange, but as a whole, I like the new aesthetic of Minmatar. |
CorInaXeraL
Order of the Silver Dragons Silver Dragonz
204
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Posted - 2012.09.20 17:49:00 -
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Where's the chin-pod? I'll miss that random piece of who-knows-what.... |
Le'Mon Tichim
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.20 18:07:00 -
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CorInaXeraL wrote:Where's the chin-pod? I'll miss that random piece of who-knows-what....
That's the point. The Tempest will no longer resemble prefab modules bolted together with engines in the back. It'll join it's big brother, the Maelstrom, in looking like a warship.
The Typhoon? Leave it be.
Edit: Scratch that. Give the Typhoon panels like the Tempest has, one for every side of the ship. Mount them perpendicular to the surface.
Space Dilophosaurus. Legion is best T3 |
Taoist Dragon
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
29
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Posted - 2012.09.20 21:51:00 -
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I love the versitility of minnie ships.........
But the one thing that has always stopped my flying them more is I can't stand the design of them apart from the rifter and slasher.
I for one am loving the new sleeky minnie concept and will wholeheartedly look forward to flying these sleek ships in the future. That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything. |
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2012.09.21 05:30:00 -
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And people say that EVE background story stands still. Look, Minmatar stopped building (some) ships out of junk, no more space hobos after all those years anyone? |
Nihi Lismus
ScrapYard Wolves Manifest Destiny.
60
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Posted - 2012.09.21 09:34:00 -
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oO
Really... THAT's the new model of the Tempest?!...
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Veni Vini Veni
I've come I've saw I've come again
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Bigpimping
Pimp Inc.
21
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Posted - 2012.09.21 09:43:00 -
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The new Stabber/vaga models are looking very space dragonish, I like it! |
David Devant
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
29
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Posted - 2012.09.21 11:43:00 -
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Due to the success of the Minmatar FW effiort. Minmatar ship designers are now licensed to employ MDF and plasterboard panneling. Winmatar victor! |
Kaikka Carel
White syndicate Wormhole Holders
75
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Posted - 2012.09.22 15:19:00 -
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Call me crazy but the new design seems something like inbetween the Amarr and Gallente style :| |
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