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CCP Guard	Posted - 2011.06.16 12:12:00 - [1] CCP Elais tells us all about the new forums in this exciting new blog. Thenf you want to help test the forums and give us your feedback on them, we've put up an official feedback thread in the new forums for that purpose. Enjoy the blog and the new forums! -CCP Guard


Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2011.06.16 12:18:00 - [2] Mmmm Secure 3rd party service \| in-game 'Holy Veldspar' Now /w voice

Myxx Atropos Group	Posted - 2011.06.16 12:25:00 - [3] can the hide function be connected with the IG block list please? -- Originally by: CCP Explorer (and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye). Originally by: Tom Gerard Then again... I am a moron.
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.16 12:27:00 - [4] in after Chribba When doing a quick response it is very easy to click reply instead of post... please make it so that if you type stuff in quick response reply acts like post, or make it copy the contents of quick reply into a new message if you click reply instead of post. please give options for changing default text size, and brightness. bold text isn't bold enough. And why are you posting more threads asking for feedback on more features when you still haven't responded to our CQ feedback?? __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function
Mitchello B O R G	Posted - 2011.06.16 12:33:00 - [5] Interesting, not just for timing but also content. But at the same time it is confusing. Does this all mean that only the security lapses were revisited and none of the design / operational / usability / other feedback streams? Or am I missing something? INCARNA. EXPERT HOUSING, QUARTER STYLE, New Eden's Blue Lagoon. Coming Soon.
xttz GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.16 12:33:00 - [6] The subscription fee for this new feature is also paid anually, yeah?
Logan LaMort Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.16 12:34:00 - [7] Edited by: Logan LaMort on 16/06/2011 12:34:34 Click, hide Miilla
Akira Zendragon EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.16 12:35:00 - [8] Broken... Cannot login to forums or evegate (which used to work just fine) on any of my accounts. Says "This account is not active. Please visit account management to activate." Login ok to account management pages, both accounts reports as active. New account management pages look pretty, but could use a "Support" link of some sort
Zothike Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.16 12:37:00 - [9] only 5$ for 10 post or 10$ for 30 post ! dont miss this bargain
salty Milk	Posted - 2011.06.16 12:38:00 - [10] So this is what passes as "Compact" and "bulletproof"? Well I wouldn't know about the bulletproof, but I sure as ** see a metric **ton of wasted space on that "compact" screen. And a like button. Can "compact" compact the like button into a little dot, zero pixels high, zero pixels wide?

Hanathor Gallente El Gremio Segundo	Posted - 2011.06.16 12:40:00 - [11] Originally by: Akira Zendragon Edited by: Akira Zendragon on 16/06/2011 12:38:47 Broken... Cannot login to forums or evegate (which used to work just fine) on any of my accounts. Says "This account is not active. Please visit account management to activate." Login ok to account management pages, both accounts reports as active. New account management pages look pretty, but could use a "Support" link of some sort EDIT: Evegate works ok from gate.eveonline.com, not from test.evegate.com You probably have SiSi account deactivated for some reasons ------------------ Cheers, Marco
Raid'En	Posted - 2011.06.16 12:43:00 - [12] Edited by: Raid''En on 16/06/2011 12:44:11 you realize it's a pretty bad timing for these right ? but well 4 time on a raw, i suppose it's not coincidence anymore... well anyway, new forums are a bit better than the previous time, but nothing special. and Guard, check your link on the general thread ; it's broken.
Bomberlocks Minmatar CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.06.16 12:46:00 - [13] Performance is MUCH better than the last piece of sht and the look is more similar to the old forums, aka slightly usable as opposed to entirely fcked up. What I find hilarious is that CCP rush this out the day after the :$99gate: fckup in an attempt to distract the masses from the shtstorm. Also, lol at not being transparent about how the last craptastic shtfest managed to pass a security audit. Will CCP still have customers in 2012?
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.06.16 12:52:00 - [14] Will you just announce a running start for the new forums, aka everything that's being posted there is in there.. or do you reset it again for a clean start down the road? Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!
Akira Zendragon EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.16 12:53:00 - [15] Originally by: Hanathor You probably have SiSi account deactivated for some reasons Riiight... forgot about that. Thx!
Lumy Minmatar Sebiestor Tribe	Posted - 2011.06.16 12:55:00 - [16] So, CCP Sreegs, what have you done differently to ensure you don't repeat last forum security debacle? Joomla! in EVE - IGB compatible CMS.
Elsa Nietchize	Posted - 2011.06.16 12:57:00 - [17] any ETA on when these'll go down too?
Jason Edwards Internet Tough Guy Spreadsheets Online	Posted - 2011.06.16 12:57:00 - [18] Do we have permission to try to exploit the new forums? Perhaps say with the intent to report said exploits? Lets say hypothetically we found a mssql sql injections and we made one of the most awful bug reports. Subject: SREEGS IS AWFUL Body: Hey I just wanted to let you know how much you smell terrible and also how bad your posts are. I found a giant gaping hole in one of your systems. https://testforums.evegate.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=11675 and (SELECT count(*) FROM sysusers); Are you going to ignore this because omg it hurt my feelings... ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe.
J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.16 12:57:00 - [19] Woot! New forums, finally back. I've been pining for them since they were taken down. The knee-capped functionality of the old forums just...sucks. I'll be testing and I can't wait to see them finally go live again and these old ones locked down for good (archived forever for reading, of course). ~Gnosis~
Dogo Duma	Posted - 2011.06.16 12:58:00 - [20] Can we please, honestly please, have some feedback from CCP on why there's been no adoption or even consideration of user feedback from god knows how many testing rounds now? It is nice to be able to hide someone's post, but that is hardly a shiny to capture and distract the user. Not this week, and not even in general. We have been doing all that for years now, userstyle, scripts, etc. It's been a basic feature. But that still leaves a huge gap in usability, design, the whole thing really.

Ciar Meara Amarr Virtus Vindice	Posted - 2011.06.16 13:00:00 - [21] The forums seem to respond pretty well, in fact I was pleasantly surprised. The inferface seems clear, but only alot of use can make that obvious. I like the features allready implementend but I am curious about the other ideas you guys have. Overal I like it but I have to admit the lack of content int he empty sidebars (wich are filled on the eve site with well the eve site), could use an improvement. ------------------------------------------------- A friend of death, a brother of luck and a son of a *****
Sarmatiko	Posted - 2011.06.16 13:04:00 - [22] Originally by: Logan LaMort Click, hide Miilla ^this This is the end of "look at me I'm stupid attention ***** making another stupid thread" era
knobber Jobbler Holding Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.16 13:09:00 - [23] Originally by: xttz The subscription fee for this new feature is also paid anually, yeah? Expect to see this in your account settings... "CCP forum use charge breakdown for xttz at 16/06/2011 12:33:00 : Your bank account has been charged 1 cent for each letter used in your forum post. Logging into the forums is $1 per login. Using the colour "White" is an additional 1 cent per character - have you considered grey? Its the power of two discount! Posting in response to a CCCP Community Manager is an additional $1 per post. You've enabled signatures, an additional $1 has been charged. You've also been quoted by anothe forum member, there is a $1 connection fee. You will see this in the next statement."
Andrea Griffin	Posted - 2011.06.16 13:11:00 - [24] Compact view? The ability to hide posts? Two huge wins for me. I'm going to play now! - "When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed." - CCP Big Dumb Object
Louis deGuerre Gallente Malevolence. Imperial 0rder	Posted - 2011.06.16 13:14:00 - [25] You still have 'unlike'. I really really unlove you CCP !!! ----- Malevolence. is recruiting. Dive into the world of 0.0 !
Shandir Minmatar Brutor Tribe	Posted - 2011.06.16 13:15:00 - [26] Good news, but did you fix the broken RSS feeds, given it's one of the few really nice features of the new forums it was a major PITA that they didn't work right. -
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.06.16 13:16:00 - [27] This looks promising. Compact view and the ability to hide post by the biggest forum morrons is going to be much appreciated. You even seem to take the possibility of you making mistakes more seriously now. -- Mr. Science & Trade Institute - EVE Lorebook - Mysteries of W-space
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2011.06.16 13:25:00 - [28] YAY I resubbed just to support this damn thing!
Felix Godfrey	Posted - 2011.06.16 13:28:00 - [29] For some reason, I'm unable to log in to the test forums
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2011.06.16 13:30:00 - [30] Originally by: salty Milk So this is what passes as "Compact" and "bulletproof"? Well I wouldn't know about the bulletproof, but I sure as ** see a metric **ton of wasted space on that "compact" screen. And a like button. Can "compact" compact the like button into a little dot, zero pixels high, zero pixels wide? don't worry we can still use eve-search which every loves right? http://www.eve-search.com/ oh wait it has the same margins as the new eve-o forums... well.. uhh. i don't know guess chibbra should change eve-search for you haters. Is that what you're saying?

Evelgrivion Gunpoint Diplomacy	Posted - 2011.06.16 13:44:00 - [31] My thoughts on the matter of the new front page.
salty Milk	Posted - 2011.06.16 13:44:00 - [32] Originally by: MotherMoon Originally by: salty Milk So this is what passes as "Compact" and "bulletproof"? Well I wouldn't know about the bulletproof, but I sure as ** see a metric **ton of wasted space on that "compact" screen. And a like button. Can "compact" compact the like button into a little dot, zero pixels high, zero pixels wide? don't worry we can still use eve-search which every loves right? http://www.eve-search.com/ oh wait it has the same margins as the new eve-o forums... well.. uhh. i don't know guess chibbra should change eve-search for you haters. Is that what you're saying? No. But seeing as you brought it up... I use eve-search as infrequently as possible because it's kinda ugly and not especially easy to use, so it doesn't matter if it sucks a bit because I don't have to use it every month. Things I am supposed to use everyday have to have been designed with daily use in mind. Milk is more expensive than petrol. But you don't run your car on milk, so it doesn't matter. I'm sure you can find a way to misinterpret this or reinterpret it to suit your needs and I look forward to you doing so.
Nirnaeth Ornoediad Caldari Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2011.06.16 13:57:00 - [33] I'm sure Chribba will love paying CCP $99/year for the privilege of archiving their forums for them in a useable format. So will internetarchive.org, for that matter. On an unrelated note, is it possible to subscribe to a given person's posts? For example, it'd be nice to keep tabs on some diplomats. --------------------------------------------- "Gate is green. Jump and meet your maker." --Mr Vee
Mac Aoidh	Posted - 2011.06.16 14:07:00 - [34] Originally by: Akira Zendragon Edited by: Akira Zendragon on 16/06/2011 12:38:47 Broken... Cannot login to forums or evegate (which used to work just fine) on any of my accounts. Says "This account is not active. Please visit account management to activate." Login ok to account management pages, both accounts reports as active. New account management pages look pretty, but could use a "Support" link of some sort EDIT: Evegate works ok from gate.eveonline.com, not from test.evegate.com I've got the same issue. Started a petition on it. "With A Strong Hand"
Phantom Slave Universal Pest Exterminators	Posted - 2011.06.16 14:09:00 - [35] My initial aesthetic complaints about the forums are gone, as far as I can see, so yay for CCP! I do however have a new gripe... Hovering over a post brings up a little pop-up box that displays the first bit of the post contents which is great, but when I move my mouse that box should disappear, not stay there until I move the mouse pointer outside of that box. Every forum I visit has the pop-up box disappear as soon as the mouse moves 5-10 pixels from where it was, regardless if it goes over the top of the pop-up box or not. Ok, make it 2 gripes. Once the pop-up box is up, if I just click inside the "thread box" without moving my mouse it doesn't do anything. I have to move my mouse for it to register the click inside the "Thread Box". Google Chrome, should be easily reproducible and I don't think a bug report is really necessary but I'll file one if you think I need to.
Zi'Boo	Posted - 2011.06.16 14:09:00 - [36] Originally by: Mac Aoidh Originally by: Akira Zendragon Edited by: Akira Zendragon on 16/06/2011 12:38:47 Broken... Cannot login to forums or evegate (which used to work just fine) on any of my accounts. Says "This account is not active. Please visit account management to activate." Login ok to account management pages, both accounts reports as active. New account management pages look pretty, but could use a "Support" link of some sort EDIT: Evegate works ok from gate.eveonline.com, not from test.evegate.com I've got the same issue. Started a petition on it. You obviously haven't bought the $99 license required to do CCP's testing for them...
Smoking Blunts	Posted - 2011.06.16 14:13:00 - [37] Edited by: Smoking Blunts on 16/06/2011 14:15:38 so its back to teh ugly hard to read 'new' forums. dam it i hoped this idea died. oh well will only have to log in when i need a gtc now edit. i forgot, have you made it so we can actually use account management on these 'new' forums yet, or do we still have to use both to get round lazy assed programming?
Mitchello B O R G	Posted - 2011.06.16 14:29:00 - [38] Edited by: Mitchello on 16/06/2011 14:29:45 Ok, serious question. As always, please don't take it the wrong way, it's not a case of :lolcustomers: Why was the decision made to not choose for a responsive layout, or why was that not an option? The reason I ask, is because that is not exactly something new. It's a very solid best practice in web design and development, which not only allows you to bypass a multitude of issues in adjusting design to customer behavioral patterns, dealing with expectation management and so forth, but also provides a most beneficial way to prevent having to invest substantial amounts of extra work or even reinventing the wheel once devices become a point of attention. Something, which I should add, which should already be a point of attention. Think of mobile markets, handheld gaming devices with connectivity, and so forth. See, all too quickly we get an impression of "style over substance", sometimes even impressions of outdated and commercially invalid doctrines like "if it looks good it is good enough". Which simply makes no business sense whatsoever, nor does it make any sense for the divide between presentation, intended use and actual use. Maybe that makes it a little more clear, but yeah, the question stands. Ofcourse, I can imagine that by now it is too late for such considerations, but, this has been worked on for quite a while and has been a substantial investment of resources and time. It's just not making any sense, hence the question. INCARNA. EXPERT HOUSING, QUARTER STYLE, New Eden's Blue Lagoon. Coming Soon.
Cailais Amarr Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.	Posted - 2011.06.16 14:31:00 - [39] How much $$$ are you charging per post ÇÇP? C. the hydrostatic capsule blog
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.16 14:41:00 - [40] Originally by: MotherMoon Edited by: MotherMoon on 16/06/2011 13:26:27 YAY I resubbed just to support this damn thing! Originally by: Soden Rah And why are you posting more threads asking for feedback on more features when you still haven't responded to our CQ feedback?? Becuase the people making the forum have nothing to do with CQ.... also yes you need to make it so quick reply and post thingy he talked about. I know that... but how is it the guys who are testing these new features can manage to post, while those doing incarna can't? If CQ was getting devblogs / devposts then I wouldn't be complaining... But as it isn't, and is coming out in a few days, unlike the new forums, MT paint jobs, or paying for licenses to be able to cover the gaps CCP leaves... which are not coming out in a few days. ------------------------------------------- Originally by: Kronus Heilgar You are charging people who work for free to make your game better you asshats

Lederstrumpf	Posted - 2011.06.16 14:56:00 - [41] == snip == we will keep you posted on the exact time of when the old forums will close. We hope you will join us for the public testing. == snip == Sorry, you aren't rich enough!
Lederstrumpf	Posted - 2011.06.16 14:59:00 - [42] Originally by: Mitchello Why was the decision made to not choose for a responsive layout Because CCP is #fail.
GKO	Posted - 2011.06.16 15:05:00 - [43] Do I have to pay 99$ to test it for you or is it OK to use the free licence? I am still confused by your other Dev Blog sorry.
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2011.06.16 15:06:00 - [44] The new new forums are already much better than the old new forums. Especially the compact mode and the "hide user" are good features (the first version should have had them to begin with anyway). Only bad thing? The posts are difficult to read! Please alternate the color between posts like we have it on this forum here - this increases readability SO MUCH more. One post normal grey color, the other post lighter/darker color. Please!
Xenofarion Gallente Swords Horses and Heavy Metal	Posted - 2011.06.16 15:20:00 - [45] Edited by: Xenofarion on 16/06/2011 15:21:26 Edited by: Xenofarion on 16/06/2011 15:21:11 In the near future at a desk in your neighbourhood: reading new forums "Didn't I read about this a while ago..?" search new forums "hmm no result in the search. Aah snap, it's been on the old forums! Of course the posts aren't mirrored to the new one.." search the old forums "Snap, the search doesn't work in old forums. Oh well, simply use Eve-search then." browsing eve-search.com Error 404 "Oh. Eve-Search.com down because CCP charges 99$/year? **." Seriously, what the , CCP? Also: Do you really think it's a smart idea to change the Account Management Site to a new design, developed by the same guys that failed miserably in securing the "old new forums", while you are in the crosshair of lulzsec? Are you completely nuts?!** -- those who can, do those who can't, complain
Helicity Boson Amarr The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island	Posted - 2011.06.16 15:22:00 - [46] Originally by: Xenofarion Edited by: Xenofarion on 16/06/2011 15:21:26 Edited by: Xenofarion on 16/06/2011 15:21:11 In the near future at a desk in your neighbourhood: reading new forums "Didn't I read about this a while ago..?" search new forums "hmm no result in the search. Aah snap, it's been on the old forums! Of course the posts aren't mirrored to the new one.." search the old forums "Snap, the search doesn't work in old forums. Oh well, simply use Eve-search then." browsing eve-search.com Error 404 "Oh. Eve-Search.com down because CCP charges 99$/year? **." Seriously, what the , CCP? Also: Do you really think it's a smart idea to change the Account Management Site to a new design, developed by the same guys that failed miserably in securing the "old new forums", while you are in the crosshair of lulzsec? Are you completely nuts?!** QFT.
Dr Cron Northern Lights Number 5 Hydroponic Zone	Posted - 2011.06.16 15:24:00 - [47] All this work on a new forum interface and noone can figure out how to port the existing content? lmfao. Signature removed for not being EVE Related. Zymurgist
Mashie Saldana Minmatar Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.06.16 15:47:00 - [48] Originally by: Dr Cron All this work on a new forum interface and noone can figure out how to port the existing content? lmfao. Because of :text: On a more serious note, it seems the forum settings page is broken on the new forums. Oh and the lack of signature images makes me a sad panda, what is the ETA to get that feature added through iteration?
cBOLTSON Star Frontiers Ignore This.	Posted - 2011.06.16 16:41:00 - [49] Edited by: cBOLTSON on 16/06/2011 16:41:54 To cut a long story short.... whats wrong with the forums we have now? Sure they are not perfect by any strech of the imagination. The new forums however really are terrible, please leave them alone.
Jim Luc Caldari Rule of Five Split Infinity.	Posted - 2011.06.16 16:45:00 - [50] Nice! I have some ideas that I think can improve functionality just a bit. When you roll over a thread, a little popup info window appears underneath. The experience would be better if you eliminate mouse focus from these panels so that if you roll over another thread (the one directly underneath the thread that has the info panel) even if your mouse is still over the info panel, it moves the info panel to the current thread you're over. Swiping the mouse from top to bottom should flip the info panels quickly and upon each rollover of each thread. .infoPanel { pointer-events: none; }

Xenofarion Gallente Swords Horses and Heavy Metal	Posted - 2011.06.16 16:47:00 - [51] Originally by: Mashie Saldana Oh and the lack of signature images makes me a sad panda, what is the ETA to get that feature added through iteration? SoonÖ, for only 99$/year? -- those who can, do those who can't, complain
Black Romero	Posted - 2011.06.16 16:52:00 - [52] Originally by: GKO Do I have to pay 99$ to test it for you or is it OK to use the free licence? I am still confused by your other Dev Blog sorry. HAHAHA! Well played mam! QFT - CCP - I am normally on your side but keep in mind how much players DO FOR YOUR COMPANY - FOR FREE (mass testing, forum testing, security testing, APP Development to supplement the game). Now you charge them for it. I am all for licensing, but maybe CCP should just BUY OUT the intellectual property of those that make useful contributions to the EVE community instead of FORCING THEM to pay. Just a thought. Oh and seeing as you guys majorily sórTwTd the pooch with the last forums and lost the trust of many of us...my response to testing your new ones will be - NO. It makes me wonder too especially with you guys on Lulzsec's radar what else I need to worry about. Have a nice day. Sorry to be so ....err...direct.
Alice Katsuko Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2011.06.16 17:00:00 - [53] So apparently the team which developed the new forums hasn't heard of variable-width elements that scale depending on desktop/window size. Means the web team wasn't purged of idiots after all. A shame. And the "new" forums still lag on a 1mbps connection from all the useless and bloated "features."
lushn	Posted - 2011.06.16 17:08:00 - [54] Edited by: lushn on 16/06/2011 17:09:01 Why CCP so obsessed about changing old forum? They tried once and it was total failure. Now they wanna try it again. But why they want to change old compact , simple format, easy to use forum with this Large font , large buttons with huge toon pics format? Now in order to read forum not only I have to scroll up and down but also left and right. This formot more like elementary school children text book format. Waste of space. in same space, I m able to read three reply in old forum while only able to read one in new forum. Please stubborn CCP. cancel this forum change. Just improve some feature of old forums. like search function. its insufficient in old forum. (btw new forum doesnt let user leave space at the begining or end of the pos, unless you type some character, bu instead it uses and waste more space with its format so its not possible to ready one topic without many scrolls.)
Nefera Sen The Boondock Saints	Posted - 2011.06.16 18:11:00 - [55] Originally by: Logan LaMort Edited by: Logan LaMort on 16/06/2011 12:34:34 Click, hide Miilla It's a dream come true!
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2011.06.16 18:12:00 - [56] Did you look into finding a method of porting the old forum database into the new forums? I know reformatting a bunch of text db entries is is high science and a lot of effort, but surely you'll want to please your users after the previous deployment fiasco. Thank you in advance. ... If you like choice please support this topic in the Assembly Hall. Thanks.
Kerfira Kerfira Corp	Posted - 2011.06.16 18:52:00 - [57] Edited by: Kerfira on 16/06/2011 18:54:24 On your screenshot of your so-called 'compact' forum view, vertically you're still wasting 55% of the screen-space vertically, and 28% of the horizontal screenspace. We like your joke, but this isn't April 1st, guys! Also, where is the old content? If you can't even find out how to convert from an old forum format to a new one, how the hell can we trust that you got the much more complex issue of security right? Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Krathos Morpheus Legion Infernal	Posted - 2011.06.16 19:18:00 - [58] I see no RACE showing, I don't care that much, but I know there are a lot of people that are annoyed because you can't distinguish races from portraits and now not even with text?
Jita Alt666	Posted - 2011.06.16 19:58:00 - [59] Have they removed the ability to run scripts?
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.06.16 20:06:00 - [60] Originally by: Evelgrivion My thoughts on the matter of the new front page. +1 !!! "Why so narrow" indeed. It's like they are adding options for almost anything (but mostly for far less relevant/useful stuff), yet the one BIG importance, minimum effort option... they let out. WTF. _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts

Sader Rykane Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate	Posted - 2011.06.16 20:08:00 - [61] Now that there's a hide feature; I can't wait for the new forums. I could care less about any other improvement.
Kyra Felann Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2011.06.16 20:41:00 - [62] Yay for hiding posts! \o/ -----WARNING SIGNATURE BELOW----- Bring back the NeoNeoCom!
SkinSin	Posted - 2011.06.16 22:29:00 - [63] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Evelgrivion My thoughts on the matter of the new front page. +1 !!! "Why so narrow" indeed. It's like they are adding options for almost anything (but mostly for far less relevant/useful stuff), yet the one BIG importance, minimum effort option... they let out. WTF. I've said it once before and I'll say it again... Because the team dealing with Evegate and the new forums are ******* incompetent!
Patient 2428190 DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School	Posted - 2011.06.16 22:57:00 - [64] I'm normally filled with uncontrollable rage, but man, the hide function is (hopefully) going to be :AWSUM: Have a dislike button to go with like or just remove the system all together. ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala.
mkint	Posted - 2011.06.17 00:01:00 - [65] Read devblog, sounded promising, logged in, left disappointed. Other people will do the analysis I'm sure, but the web team is still incompetent.
Miso Hawnee	Posted - 2011.06.17 02:33:00 - [66] I have the same level of enthusiasm for this as the Spacebook content. Zero. What is wrong with the current forums? They work fine... If it aint broke don't fix it... tinfoil: stealth assembly hall nerf and bad feedback nerf.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2011.06.17 04:45:00 - [67] Edited by: MotherMoon on 17/06/2011 04:46:37 Forums have been the number one most complained about thing in the past 5 years when it comes to accessing eve content. They are the laughing stock of every other mmo community for a reason. Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Evelgrivion My thoughts on the matter of the new front page. +1 !!! "Why so narrow" indeed. It's like they are adding options for almost anything (but mostly for far less relevant/useful stuff), yet the one BIG importance, minimum effort option... they let out. WTF. why did people like you never complain about eve-search again?
adriaans Amarr Ankaa. Nair Al-Zaurak	Posted - 2011.06.17 04:47:00 - [68] Edited by: adriaans on 17/06/2011 04:49:03 Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Evelgrivion My thoughts on the matter of the new front page. +1 !!! "Why so narrow" indeed. It's like they are adding options for almost anything (but mostly for far less relevant/useful stuff), yet the one BIG importance, minimum effort option... they let out. WTF. this +2 TO NARROW!!!!!!! Originally by: MotherMoon why did people like you never complain about eve-search again? I have used it maybe a handful of times during my 6 years in eve... hardly worthy of complaining about then. eve forums I use every day however. --signature-- My latest pvp video: Link
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2011.06.17 06:50:00 - [69] I just measured the pixies of the black border. If we put the two black borders together effectively I have a 1350x1440 resolution black box on my screen. Surely I am not the only one who thinks that's a really bad setup for a forum? It's also making the screen hard to read having all the text squashed into a small area. The current forum width is not ok on large screens. ______ How to Passive Shield Tank T2
Florestan Bronstein draketrain Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.17 08:37:00 - [70] From CCP Rhayger's devblog: Quote: I didn't address the significant flaws that made it into release and how that came to be, that will be for another dev blog to detail. I am pretty sure Sreegs also promised us another devblog on the botting situation...

Dray Caldari Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2011.06.17 08:38:00 - [71] Originally by: Miso Hawnee I have the same level of enthusiasm for this as the Spacebook content. Zero. What is wrong with the current forums? They work fine... If it aint broke don't fix it... tinfoil: stealth assembly hall nerf and bad feedback nerf. +1 Why bother with a whole new rebuild instead of improving the current forums, I'm no coder or web monkey so I don't know the logistics involved but I'd prefer that, looked at the new forums decided they are ** then installed Stylish to make them look half way decent, then asked my self if the guy who did the code will be charged $99. Seriously I don't know what you guys did with my CCP but I'd like it if you put them back then go and fk off.
salty Milk	Posted - 2011.06.17 09:18:00 - [72] Originally by: adriaans Originally by: MotherMoon why did people like you never complain about eve-search again? I have used it maybe a handful of times during my 6 years in eve... hardly worthy of complaining about then. eve forums I use every day however. He already ignored this answer once, pretty sure he's just going to keep ignoring this answer until somebody uses a different one that he can think of a smart alec answer to.
Queen Titania	Posted - 2011.06.17 10:51:00 - [73] Originally by: Sader Rykane Now that there's a hide feature; I can't wait for the new forums. I could care less about any other improvement. Hello Sweetie Just so that you know for future reference, It's "I couldn't care less" Not "I could care less" Simple 101 English Have a good day and fly safe QT
Saint Lazarus Pwn 'N Play Chaos Theory Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.17 11:11:00 - [74] Originally by: Queen Titania Originally by: Sader Rykane Now that there's a hide feature; I can't wait for the new forums. I could care less about any other improvement. Hello Sweetie Just so that you know for future reference, It's "I couldn't care less" Not "I could care less" Simple 101 English Have a good day and fly safe QT You're just tryin to get hidden arent you Yea Hide users posts, epppppiiiicccc. Only change I care about tbh ----------------- My EvE Comic
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2011.06.17 11:29:00 - [75] To give people an idea of how much black space you get on larger screens I uploaded this screenshot. Both the black borders are cut and paste next to each other. http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6093/unledqqn.jpg It is just a really poor design. ______ How to Passive Shield Tank T2
Xenofarion Gallente Swords Horses and Heavy Metal	Posted - 2011.06.17 12:12:00 - [76] Originally by: Pottsey http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6093/unledqqn.jpg -- those who can, do those who can't, complain
Vandrion Gallente The Collective B O R G	Posted - 2011.06.17 20:52:00 - [77] How many Aurum will it require?
Kerrisone	Posted - 2011.06.17 23:11:00 - [78] Originally by: MotherMoon Edited by: MotherMoon on 17/06/2011 04:46:37 Forums have been the number one most complained about thing in the past 5 years when it comes to accessing eve content. They are the laughing stock of every other mmo community for a reason. Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Evelgrivion My thoughts on the matter of the new front page. +1 !!! "Why so narrow" indeed. It's like they are adding options for almost anything (but mostly for far less relevant/useful stuff), yet the one BIG importance, minimum effort option... they let out. WTF. why did people like you never complain about eve-search again? Maybe because: They were made as a service to the community/fans by another fan. They were never intended to replace the forums but add a tool (search) and archive the posts. The creator made no money off them and instead expended money/time/resources to create and maintain them. No one was forced to read the vast majority of threads on Evesearch, you could view the original post once 'found' except in the instance the post was edited or deleted. Possibly They matched the original forum layout, I wasn't around back then so I don't know if these forums were EVER updated. PERHAPS people suggested it to Chribba through email or other methods of contact/etc but who knows. And maybe because *****ing and moaning at the guy who did all the above would have been bad form.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2011.06.18 04:41:00 - [79] Originally by: salty Milk Originally by: adriaans Originally by: MotherMoon why did people like you never complain about eve-search again? I have used it maybe a handful of times during my 6 years in eve... hardly worthy of complaining about then. eve forums I use every day however. He already ignored this answer once, pretty sure he's just going to keep ignoring this answer until somebody uses a different one that he can think of a smart alec answer to. not really his answer was rational. Yours was the bickering of an angry old man.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.06.18 12:27:00 - [80] Edited by: Mag''s on 18/06/2011 12:27:34 Originally by: MotherMoon why did people like you never complain about eve-search again? Why would we complain about a private search site, that filled the gaping hole CCP left for years? The new forums are still a laughing stock, they can't even get animated smilies to work ffs. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.

Ilah Gruhbarn	Posted - 2011.06.18 23:28:00 - [81] so how much cash i need to pay per post,also i want my window to be in pink theme with kittens all over can i pay on top of sub or i need to buy with gold?
Golden Gnu Gallente The Golden Gnu Corp	Posted - 2011.06.19 09:18:00 - [82] No [img] tag! That must be a minimum requirement (like being secure) ohh, wait... Please fix before release... _________________ Download is the meaning of life, upload is the meaning of intelligent life EVE.NiKR.NET - home of jEveAssets
Lederstrumpf	Posted - 2011.06.19 16:30:00 - [83] Free bump for the ****ty new forum! GO, GO, GO CCP! Enable it and shut this one down already! Ha, ha, ha. And here's some prefiltered excellent feedback for you losers who didn't get those clues on your own and expect customers to do your development work on top of paying a monthly fee: https://testforums.evegate.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=27918#post27918 You should pay him money for telling you how stupid your "design" is!
Kerfira Kerfira Corp	Posted - 2011.06.19 17:29:00 - [84] Why do you require that we log in to read all the groups? CAOD (maybe others) is not available unless you do... Still impossible to get a good overview over a thread as every post is the same colour, the writing makes your eyes bleed, the screen-space waste has not been corrected, and then there are the issues of missing features (that are in the current forum), as well as the conversion of the old forum content. Your forum dev team fails yet again, and more importantly, your MANAGEMENT fails for even thinking about putting this P.O.S. in yet another time... I simply do not understand why you are so insistent on replacing parts of the greater EVE with bits that are clearly inferior to the ones you take out! Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Soldarius Caldari Northstar Cabal Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2011.06.20 03:42:00 - [85] Why so narrow, indeed? Here, let me fix that for you. <style type="text/css"> <!-- body {width: 100%} --!> </style> That wasn't so hard now, was it CCP? I won't even send you a bill for the minimum 1 hour spent at the prevailing labor rate for a certified web master. Originally by: Krutoj You dont have a supercapital? buy PLEX trade it for ISK, buy supers. Just like any other mmo you can use your RL to pimp your character out (or tank for that matter).
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.06.20 14:54:00 - [86] Why does this feel like dTja vu? Oh wait, feed back and no dev responses to concerns.... My bad. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.


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