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Din Chao
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
89
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Posted - 2012.09.13 20:47:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Lord Arakkis wrote:Atedar Kerane wrote:Not to be disrespectful, but a pile of money is not going to bring him back.
Money is collected to help people in situations where property has been damaged, in order to get their life back on track. This proposal is way off not to be disrespectful, but you are totally missing the point..... So is everyone else in this thread. I feel for his friends and family, it was a senseless death. However, considering the circumstances of his death , it seems highly likely that the US Goverment will be paying out quite a bit to his family. And the reality is, if the Goons really are worried about this, convert some of those trillions of moongoo, and go for it.... The reason charities exist is because whether intended or not, government assistance can frequently fall short. Just google charities like Wounded Warrior. The U.S. government doesn't have the best record when it comes to these things. |

Ilriac LS
Malus Infinitas
0
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Posted - 2012.09.13 21:14:00 -
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ALLAHU AKBAR ALLAHU AKBAR |

Soldarius
TreadStone Standard Tribal Band
281
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Posted - 2012.09.15 01:25:00 -
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As a former federal employee, I can assure you that Sean had access to a substantial life insurance policy and dependent support program, as well as a substantial amount of cash pay. His family likely won't be hurting for money.
That being said, I'm totally in favor of the Eve community putting something together to show our consolidated support of his family in there time of tragedy. But I think the PLEX drive mechanism is not the right method, nor do I believe will it be approved by CCP.
I've flown with Vile Rat a few times and I've enjoyed the experiences as well as reading his forum posts. I will personally miss his presence within the Eve community. "How do you kill that which has no life?" |

Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
351
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Posted - 2012.09.15 01:42:00 -
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There are people like me out there, who cannot afford to donate that much IRL but able and willing to donate a significant amount via PLEX. even if Vile's family is not likely to *need* the money, i do think that they would appreciate the gesture.
Please CCP, allow us players to show the world that we can also be compassionate and care for each other.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |

Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2395
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Posted - 2012.09.15 01:56:00 -
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Someone just opened yet another "VR RIP" duplicate thread in another section and listed his profile in their message. Thing is when I opened it and looked at it I had the very depressing realization that here was an avatar that would never be played again, it will just sit there for the rest of this game's existance as a sort of memorial in itself. Yeah if he was still alive I probably wouldn't have got along with him in game, yeah I do think all this mourning is akin to the "death of a high school star quarterback", but it's the little realizations like that which really drive home that someones gone, and despite never having known the guy, one can't help but feel an absense when faced with a realization like that. "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |

devilish instability
Galactic Intelligence Agency
6
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Posted - 2012.09.15 02:05:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:Jake Maverick wrote: Now his Family is without him, who is to say how they will get by without him? Don't we owe his family a debt?
No. We owe them nothing. We owe him nothing. May be perceived as harsh, but it's true. If people want to donate to make themselves feel better then that's an individual choice, but don't play the debt/guilt card.
I totally agree with you, we owe nothing.
But i do feel we need MOAR posts about this person the last 100 weren't enough please make a few moar. |

devilish instability
Galactic Intelligence Agency
8
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Posted - 2012.09.15 02:10:00 -
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Archon Zeratul wrote:how about a plex drive for the guy the goons tried to get to commit suicide in game ?
+100, but he wasn't a goon so no one cares unfortunately
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devilish instability
Galactic Intelligence Agency
10
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Posted - 2012.09.15 02:12:00 -
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Lilianna Star wrote:Not to be rude, but the disaster in Japan affected a lot of people where a lot of lives were lost. This is only a handful of people, at most. There are worthier charities out there.
+1 |
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
818

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Posted - 2012.09.15 02:38:00 -
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I have cleaned this thread of unwarranted troll, off topic and personal attack posts. This thread has a topic, please stick to it in future - ISD Type40. ISD Type40 Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
53
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Posted - 2012.09.17 11:00:00 -
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I know a lot of you expressed interest in doing something for Vile Rat, and I know CCP has been informed a college fund has been started for his children. In case you were unaware on how to help out here are the details:
http://www.youcaring.com/fundraiser_details?fundraiser_id=9332&url=benefitforseansmithsfamily
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Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
287
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Posted - 2012.09.17 12:14:00 -
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Much, much better, college fund for kids living/growing up in the US (we Euros get uni/college for free by way of taxes) is more than worthy. Already raised the equivalent of 2000 PLEX ..
Now if OP would add the link to the fundraiser in the original post to maximize exposure. |

Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
56
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Posted - 2012.09.17 12:19:00 -
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Veshta Yoshida wrote:Much, much better, college fund for kids living/growing up in the US (we Euros get uni/college for free by way of taxes) is more than worthy. Already raised the equivalent of 2000 PLEX .. Now if OP would add the link to the fundraiser in the original post to maximize exposure.
I agree that exposure is important here and I am sure the OP will edit their post to include this. I just went up late last night, depending on your time zone, also if you are involved or connected to philanthropic organizations or know people who have a large platform to speak from, just getting them to put the word out would be of great help. After all words are free. |

Gary Bell
Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance
16
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Posted - 2012.09.17 12:53:00 -
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For those people who dont have the ability to donate money but have alot of in game isk, let me give you an idea. Im not sure how legal this is via CCP terms and conditions but find a friend who plays the game that you trust. Have that friend donate money in your name and buy him a plex. At some point he is prob going to be paying for his account so you pay for it and let him send that money to the fundraiser??
Also, for those people who think that this fundraiser is a scam or something because it is being run by goons, one your dumb, two there are laws to prevent such things that get people sent to prison so yeah .. stupid |

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
568
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Posted - 2012.09.17 14:31:00 -
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I suppose we should have PLEX drive for all the families of the deceased EVE Online players?
I have tremendous respect for Vile Rat and his accomplishments, but this PLEX drive is just way too much. |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1717
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Posted - 2012.09.17 14:53:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:I suppose we should have PLEX drive for all the families of the deceased EVE Online players?
I have tremendous respect for Vile Rat and his accomplishments, but this PLEX drive is just way too much. No one is forcing any one to donate. VR did a lot for the community. It makes sense the community wants to give something back for what he did for us. |

Torve Starduster
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.09.17 15:03:00 -
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Well, I'm usually not for these kind of things, the thing he's not the only dead EvE player and all... Still, it's clear that he made an impact, however small, on a lot of people. Let them remember/pay their respects the way they want. For one, compare the use of 500 mil isk to potentially helping fund the funeral of someone...
I'm usually not for these kind of things, but I'd do it this time. |

Randomize All
State War Academy Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2012.09.17 15:16:00 -
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Jake Maverick wrote: Now his Family is without him, who is to say how they will get by without him? Don't we owe his family a debt?
When I die, you going to get everybody to support my family? How about when all the other customers of GGP died? I know they weren't goons, but come on, they had families too. |

Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
57
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Posted - 2012.09.17 18:42:00 -
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If it were you, I'd think your corp mates would post something on EVE. I think the players of EVE would see it and step forward with the same care and concern. People outside of EVE hear of things all the time where someone is in need and caring people do step forward. Now you don't have to get involved, but don't impede other people from being generous with uncalled for negativity. I wouldn't try to dissuade someone from helping your family or raising awareness. |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
740
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Posted - 2012.09.17 18:45:00 -
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Scooter McCabe wrote:If it were you, I'd think your corp mates would post something on EVE. I think the players of EVE would see it and step forward with the same care and concern. People outside of EVE hear of things all the time where someone is in need and caring people do step forward. Now you don't have to get involved, but don't impede other people from being generous with uncalled for negativity. I wouldn't try to dissuade someone from helping your family or raising awareness.
This man is wise man.
To all douchebags you should read this man post and ask CCP to make it implant so you could plug irl to make you better persons. brb |

Hauling Hal
The Black Ops Black Core Alliance
90
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Posted - 2012.09.17 18:51:00 -
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Scooter McCabe wrote:If it were you, I'd think your corp mates would post something on EVE. I think the players of EVE would see it and step forward with the same care and concern. People outside of EVE hear of things all the time where someone is in need and caring people do step forward. Now you don't have to get involved, but don't impede other people from being generous with uncalled for negativity. I wouldn't try to dissuade someone from helping your family or raising awareness.
There have been some really nasty replies to people dying in RL from some corners of the Eve player base in the past. I seem to recall that they originated from the same community that is now trying to raise funds for one of their own that died recently. |

Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
57
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Posted - 2012.09.17 19:24:00 -
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Hauling Hal wrote:Scooter McCabe wrote:If it were you, I'd think your corp mates would post something on EVE. I think the players of EVE would see it and step forward with the same care and concern. People outside of EVE hear of things all the time where someone is in need and caring people do step forward. Now you don't have to get involved, but don't impede other people from being generous with uncalled for negativity. I wouldn't try to dissuade someone from helping your family or raising awareness. There have been some really nasty replies to people dying in RL from some corners of the Eve player base in the past. I seem to recall that they originated from the same community that is now trying to raise funds for one of their own that died recently.
Well I wasn't around for that, I don't know if you were either. What I do know is that the first step in a fallacious argument is the use of generalizations to characterize an entire community. Like the counter protests to the violence in Libya we are presented daily with the fact that generalizations never fit a people. If an outside observer of EVE came to look around at the day to day gaming, one might be inclined we are a bunch of nerds taking a game way to seriously and have lost sight of what is really important. But then you see the charity events done at Fanfest, the PLEX drives for the tragedy in Japan, and now our response to this. They would be left with the incongruity of these two observations, they'd have to set aside their generalization of EVE and accept the reality that the community is more than just the sum of its parts.
So in short your generalization just doesn't fit, but thanks for posting so this stays up on the front page so people can be aware and help. |

Jake Maverick
Gallente Volunteer Defense Forces Tribal Band
72
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Posted - 2012.09.17 20:55:00 -
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As requested OP has been edited to include the following Link.
http://www.youcaring.com/fundraiser_details?fundraiser_id=9332&url=benefitforseansmithsfamily
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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
568
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Posted - 2012.09.17 23:43:00 -
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Randomize All wrote:Jake Maverick wrote: Now his Family is without him, who is to say how they will get by without him? Don't we owe his family a debt? When I die, you going to get everybody to support my family? How about when all the other customers of GGP died? I know they weren't goons, but come on, they had families too.
This is absolutely right. Since when did the burden of having to support the families of those deceased, became the obligation of the CCP?
It sure has nice ring to it. CCP running PLEX Drive to support the families of deceased EVE Player, but why should CCP dedicate dozens of its employees, deprive hundreds of labor-hour that could have been gone to developing new ships or new features, to make ingame memorial sites and support the unfortunate families?
I am not in the best position to dictate what CCP should do, but as one of the stakeholders who purchase hundreds of PLEXs, I can only see this PLEX Drive serving one purpose: marketing EVE Online out there.
I suppose CCP should hold PLEX Drive to support all the families of all the deceased EVE Players?
Should CCP start allocating 32% of its revenue so it can start EVE Players' social security program too? |

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
568
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Posted - 2012.09.17 23:46:00 -
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By the way, munificence of the EVE Players almost brings me tears. Look at the streams of support that has been shown by the players. The collective power of the EVE Online players is staggering. This charity drive is probably more effective by several folds, than having to formulate a PLEX Drive from the scratch.
Already $59k or so. This is simply amazing. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4716
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Posted - 2012.09.18 00:44:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:This is absolutely right. Since when did the burden of having to support the families of those deceased, became the obligation of the CCP?
It sure has nice ring to it. CCP running PLEX Drive to support the families of deceased EVE Player, but why should CCP dedicate dozens of its employees, deprive hundreds of labor-hour that could have been gone to developing new ships or new features, to make ingame memorial sites and support the unfortunate families?
I am not in the best position to dictate what CCP should do, but as one of the stakeholders who purchase hundreds of PLEXs, I can only see this PLEX Drive serving one purpose: marketing EVE Online out there.
I suppose CCP should hold PLEX Drive to support all the families of all the deceased EVE Players?
Should CCP start allocating 32% of its revenue so it can start EVE Players' social security program too?
I think CCP has previously said that the staff who manage PLEX drives do so on their own time (i.e. not on company time) and that the only costs absorbed by the company are credit card processing fees from selling the PLEX consumed in the drives.
I personally don't expect them to run a PLEX drive for this cause seeing as his family is getting substantial donations from the community, and I wouldn't hold it against them if they didn't. please leave |

Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
160
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Posted - 2012.09.18 00:52:00 -
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NO!
People die all days. EvE player don't die that often but it still happens. He did his job and he KNEW it might be dangures!
It's the job of the US-Goverment to take care about his family now, not ours!
And much more important for me: it was a US fanatican who made this damn video why all this happend. Every goverment in the world knew this fanatic christian prist ... but AGAIN the US goverment failed to act in time (arest this fanaticen).
Now the hole western world has to suffer becouse if this DAMN IDIOT who made the incridible STUPID video.
If someone should pay then ONLY the US goverment and this fanatic christ prist Terry Jones. Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship! |

Din Chao
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
96
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Posted - 2012.09.18 02:09:00 -
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Jojo Jackson wrote:NO!
People die all days. EvE player don't die that often but it still happens. He did his job and he KNEW it might be dangures!
It's the job of the US-Goverment to take care about his family now, not ours!
And much more important for me: it was a US fanatican who made this damn video why all this happend. Every goverment in the world knew this fanatic christian prist ... but AGAIN the US goverment failed to act in time (arest this fanaticen).
Now the hole western world has to suffer becouse if this DAMN IDIOT who made the incridible STUPID video.
If someone should pay then ONLY the US goverment and this fanatic christ prist Terry Jones. **** you |
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