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LarcatOfZion
Red Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:11:00 -
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Like the title says, if I wanted to use a fat stack of Quafe Zero for collateral for a loan, what would you MD people value it at?
I've got a history of paying back a couple uncollateralized loans to Ji Sama back in the day, FWIW.
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LarcatOfZion
Red Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:31:00 -
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 Originally by: Faith Clothos
Originally by: egola
average contract buy value
There is no way to find out what the prices paid on completed contracts have actually been though. And, the value might drastically change in either direction. If it changes down, you may be stuck with a lot of suddenly worthless items (say, something similar or better is released soon).
Average contract buy value is pretty much meaningless anyways for this particular item, because the *vast* majority of volume is sell side, not buy side. Which is why I asked ;)
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LarcatOfZion
Red Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Zero. Not only am I stuck with having to sell it on the contract market, its long term value is by no means assured with recent hints about smuggling and contraband.
Link? Sounds interesting.
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LarcatOfZion
Red Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.21 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: egola
Edited by: egola on 21/06/2011 20:40:48
Edited by: egola on 21/06/2011 20:40:02
Originally by: Faith Clothos
Originally by: egola
average contract buy value
There is no way to find out what the prices paid on completed contracts have actually been though. And, the value might drastically change in either direction. If it changes down, you may be stuck with a lot of suddenly worthless items (say, something similar or better is released soon).
i meant average amongst CURRENT buy orders. that way you're not dependant on a max buy order or past prices that you can't really pull out. so say there are like 100 current buy orders and the average price between all 100 buy orders is 5mil each then obviously that would seem to be a decent price.
@larcat: like what dretzle said, since the vast majority of volume is on the seller side there are no concrete numbers on how much stuff are sold for or if they're even sold. the only guarantee you sorta have (not really a guarantee) is the general pricing on the buy order side. this is obviously to prevent you from just unload a HUGE amount of quafe zero on an unlucky ******* that decided to use the average sell contract price when its infact moving like a snail.
Out of curiosity, given the the way the contract market works and the fact that this stuff isn't *that" concentrated in Jita, how would you even calculate that?
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LarcatOfZion
Red Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.22 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: LarcatOfZion
Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Zero. Not only am I stuck with having to sell it on the contract market, its long term value is by no means assured with recent hints about smuggling and contraband.
Link? Sounds interesting.
It has been mentioned from time to time. I think, though not sure, if you go to the incarna feature page and watch the BFF vid you'll hear a passing comment or two. There have been other comments here and there as well. My main point is, if boosters are going to be something that can move around high sec more easily, then the price of something like QuaffeZero should drop. That's six months out I suspect, if at all. Just cause CCP says it, doesn't mean it'll happen.
Forgetting about theoretical valuation of my stack for a moment, no boosters mimic QZ's effect, and that effect is a must for nanoderping. So I'm not sure at all that being able to move existing boosters around highsec would have any impact whatsoever on QZ valuation.
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