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Yolo
Intergalactic Combined Technologies
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Posted - 2011.06.22 06:22:00 -
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These items are the foundation of any newbies life in Eve-Online.
These items is what is possible for newbies when all other things require more skills.
These items are at the same time those that lack blueprints, they are undersupplied and overpriced.
I would say that currently it is a very pressing issue and it makes it hard for new players to try the game out, trust me I'v tried with helping them sort fittings but modules simply are not there and I am unable to build them.
Would the item be sold, its overpriced so badly that sometimes the faction/t2 items are cheaper.
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Yolo
Intergalactic Combined Technologies
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:50:00 -
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So thats how much people care about the new player experience.
great.
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Kedisa
Jericho Fraction
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Posted - 2011.06.23 09:21:00 -
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What's the point? Noob skills take like 20 minutes each and then they can use the real one...
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Lin-Young Borovskova
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Posted - 2011.06.23 09:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Yolo
So thats how much people care about the new player experience.
great.
Those mods wouldn't be overpriced if you didn't had scum buying those in the entire region and selling them 10x.
There's not any sort of problem about the mob it's price or that you can't build it, the problem once again comes from the scum confortably installed in high sec and once again using any way possible to make some profit.
This is what high sec is about, majority of angry bit vet nerds doing everything by any meanings they can to turn your game experience in tears.
Quit high sec, join 0.0 NPC alliance, have fun get isk forget high sec pussies.
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Yolo
Intergalactic Combined Technologies
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Posted - 2011.06.23 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Kedisa
What's the point? Noob skills take like 20 minutes each and then they can use the real one...
First of all, to buy the skills they need isk. to get isk they need basic fittings to pew pew some lowbie missions.
You login a fresh char and try running lvl 1 missions with your velator with a civilian gun.
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Yolo
Intergalactic Combined Technologies
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Posted - 2011.06.23 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: Lin-Young Borovskova
Originally by: Yolo
So thats how much people care about the new player experience.
great.
Those mods wouldn't be overpriced if you didn't had scum buying those in the entire region and selling them 10x.
There's not any sort of problem about the mob it's price or that you can't build it, the problem once again comes from the scum confortably installed in high sec and once again using any way possible to make some profit.
This is what high sec is about, majority of angry bit vet nerds doing everything by any meanings they can to turn your game experience in tears.
Quit high sec, join 0.0 NPC alliance, have fun get isk forget high sec pussies.
Anyone with the skills or friends needed can go to lowsec or 0.0.
The targetgroup for CCP and for the rest of us is to expand the player base.
eg; a person who started playing today will not be in 0.0 this afternoon, one reason is because he will be suspected of being an alt.
other reasons as lack of skills, knowledge and friends are other reasons.
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Lin-Young Borovskova
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Posted - 2011.06.23 10:14:00 -
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Edited by: Lin-Young Borovskova on 23/06/2011 10:21:07
Originally by: Yolo
Originally by: Lin-Young Borovskova
Originally by: Yolo
So thats how much people care about the new player experience.
great.
Those mods wouldn't be overpriced if you didn't had scum buying those in the entire region and selling them 10x.
There's not any sort of problem about the mob it's price or that you can't build it, the problem once again comes from the scum confortably installed in high sec and once again using any way possible to make some profit.
This is what high sec is about, majority of angry bit vet nerds doing everything by any meanings they can to turn your game experience in tears.
Quit high sec, join 0.0 NPC alliance, have fun get isk forget high sec pussies.
Anyone with the skills or friends needed can go to lowsec or 0.0.
The targetgroup for CCP and for the rest of us is to expand the player base.
eg; a person who started playing today will not be in 0.0 this afternoon, one reason is because he will be suspected of being an alt.
other reasons as lack of skills, knowledge and friends are other reasons.
Once again, who do you think made this paranoia possible? -bit vets.
If they couldn't do that from the begining yes, I'm pretty sure that all big 0.0 alliances would accept newbies and train them.
Now it's too late, there's nothing you can do to change it and CCP has other stuff to deal with imho.
Edit: If you really want to help newbies advise them to get in to any Eve university/school and learn Eve the right way.
Eventually you can give them 1 million for their start, what's a single million for you? -peanuts, you clean a full AE sell verything including lp's and you've already done over 55M
There are too many issues related to supported behaviours in high sec. If CCP really wants to do something, it's pretty simple: change High sec name in to "relative higher security status"
It's always better and faster than change mecanics so newbies can finaly apreciate this game without being can flipped, scamed, ganked, perma wd etc
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Danika Princip
Minmatar
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2011.06.23 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Yolo
Originally by: Kedisa
What's the point? Noob skills take like 20 minutes each and then they can use the real one...
First of all, to buy the skills they need isk. to get isk they need basic fittings to pew pew some lowbie missions.
You login a fresh char and try running lvl 1 missions with your velator with a civilian gun.
Don't you get either the skills or the isk to buy them just by running the tutorial?
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Lin-Young Borovskova
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Danika Princip
Originally by: Yolo
Originally by: Kedisa
What's the point? Noob skills take like 20 minutes each and then they can use the real one...
First of all, to buy the skills they need isk. to get isk they need basic fittings to pew pew some lowbie missions.
You login a fresh char and try running lvl 1 missions with your velator with a civilian gun.
Don't you get either the skills or the isk to buy them just by running the tutorial?
They do, and the get also free combat ships, free haulers, free mods and free skill books
Once finished all the tutorials and if the noob doesn't have 1M in his wallet then he'll never get Eve.
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Yolo
Intergalactic Combined Technologies
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Lin-Young Borovskova
They do, and the get also free combat ships, free haulers, free mods and free skill books
Once finished all the tutorials and if the noob doesn't have 1M in his wallet then he'll never get Eve.
Thats all nice, but 1 single basic module can be as expensive as 30m Isk.
The problem is lack of BPO's from which to produce these items, they allow high end players to toy with the market as they please to mess with the newbies and make some Isk.
Very simply solution would be for CCP to simply seed the BPO's of these items and the problem would be no more, there would most likely be plenty of noob items in the starter areas. Now the items you get are overpriced, if there are any at all.
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E man Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.23 15:08:00 -
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I'm lost.
Started a noob character and did the tutorials..I got a free ship if I died and got mods though missions.
I was even given a free ship(not noob ship)..I was able to fit it and never had isk issues.
How are you not having isk and can't aford a tech 1 module? Who buys civilian modules? they are terrible.
I'm lost and don't get the issue.
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Valika Kalidima
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Posted - 2011.06.23 15:16:00 -
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Edited by: Valika Kalidima on 23/06/2011 15:16:36
E man is right. I have no idea where you are, where it costs 30mil for a basic module. I just started an alt, and I have no money issues at all. You get free ships, modules etc. through the tutorial missions. We really don't need civilian modules blueprints. You find all the needed modules in the missions anyway, and civilian modules are useless. The basic modules might cost more than they should, but really, 30mil? The ones that I see are overpriced are only like 10-30k too much. That's easy to get anyway, from the basic tutorial missions I got around 2mil, quite some ships, quite some skillbooks (20 at least), and I can not see any way that I would be in a lack of money as a new player.
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Callic Veratar
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Posted - 2011.06.23 17:17:00 -
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I get the feeling you're trying to buy Meta 4 items to fit on a noob-ship...
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Yolo
Intergalactic Combined Technologies
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Posted - 2011.06.23 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Callic Veratar
I get the feeling you're trying to buy Meta 4 items to fit on a noob-ship...
Check your regional market, search for 'Basic' or 'Civilian' then check prices and amount of these items. Some are cheap and plentyfull while others are rare and **** expensive (more expensive then t2 or even faction sometimes).
I'm not saying its impossible to do the ground missions up as it is, what I am saying is that it would be easier and faster if there was modules you could use from the get go.
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Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos
Word of Chaos Undivided
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Posted - 2011.06.23 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Lin-Young Borovskova
Once again, who do you think made this paranoia possible? -bit vets.
CCP, when they made having a spy alt as easy as relogging.
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If they couldn't do that from the begining yes, I'm pretty sure that all big 0.0 alliances would accept newbies and train them.
I doubt it. Newbies take patience, resources, and time to mold into a viable member. Most alliances are still trying to mold alleged vets into something useful.
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Now it's too late, there's nothing you can do to change it and CCP has other stuff to deal with imho.
There are plenty of options for truenewbies. Not every corp is ultra paranoid.
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It's always better and faster than change mecanics so newbies can finaly apreciate this game without being can flipped, scamed, ganked, perma wd etc
The sooner they learn, the easier it will be for them (and everyone else) long term.
Nothing has more rage than a vet with the mindset of a fresh newbie even after years of playing.
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