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Iloni Atoriandra
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.23 19:20:00 -
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You will find lots of corps have rules about what to do in them such as not killing fellow alliance members.
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Grath Telkin
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.23 19:22:00 -
[182]
 Originally by: Reldor Silverheart
Edited by: Reldor Silverheart on 23/06/2011 18:46:08
Sure you ban the use of Aurum and stuff, but let me ask this simple question, because this is what makes or breaks this as a matter of fact.
When it comes to RMT within PL and those alliances that sign on this, what is your stance on this, because banning the use of Aurum items is VERY hypocrytical if you don't ban the use of RMT and botting. So the question is simple, do you ban the use of RMT and botting or do you take a don't ask don't tell stance on it.
I am aware i am starting abit of a problem for myself here, but as i said. If you allow botting and RMT, Aurum is the least of your issues to sort out. Also, botting and RMT hurts the game more than this AURUM stuff ever will.
A last edit: if it is that you do allow RMT and botting, why should people follow your example?
This has always been a silly argument to me.
CCP doesn't care a damn thing about any of this, the bots are subs, they ban accounts every so often when the forum noise gets to loud, but on the whole, the company that makes your game doesn't care, in fact, the bots add subs, and if anybody doubts that CCP is after cash and cash only this latest expansion should be all the proof you need.
I'd even go so far as to say that as soon as they find a way to make money off of bot programs that they will stop doing that.
RMT is a different thing entirely, CCP says they don't like it, and Shamis agrees, hence all our money going into things like supers and titans and a metric ass ton of command ships for our fleet, and things like tengu reimbursement.
Now I call bull**** on CCP not liking RMT, what they don't like is that other people are making money off of it besides them. They've opened the can that allows this, they need to deal with it.
Up until tuesday I was completely against it, but seeing CCP try for every dime they can get in this patch, and reading that stupid internal article that they were dumb enough to let slip, I now have no compulsions against it either way.
If CCP are going to gouge players for every dime they can, then I'd say the players have every right to do whatever they can to replace the money CCP is digging from their wallets.
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Annie Anomie
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.23 19:49:00 -
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This is a great idea.
I believe we're now not accepting people with aurium wallet history.
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Theodoric Darkwind
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:37:00 -
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Control freak much. So now some alliances feel the need to police what their members spend their isk/RL cash on. Seriously get over it, CCP put in some OPTIONAL microtransaction items and you can still purchase them for isk if you want too, vanity MT items DO NOT EFFECT YOUR GAMEPLAY so why do you even care.
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Iulia Badr Marinela
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Theodoric Darkwind
Control freak much. So now some alliances feel the need to police what their members spend their isk/RL cash on. Seriously get over it, CCP put in some OPTIONAL microtransaction items and you can still purchase them for isk if you want too, vanity MT items DO NOT EFFECT YOUR GAMEPLAY so why do you even care.
They will soon! I hope you like getting shot with "LULZ XD GOLD AMMO" from a BFG9001 large AC!!
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Salomei
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Posted - 2011.06.23 21:00:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Theodoric Darkwind
Control freak much. So now some alliances feel the need to police what their members spend their isk/RL cash on. Seriously get over it, CCP put in some OPTIONAL microtransaction items and you can still purchase them for isk if you want too, vanity MT items DO NOT EFFECT YOUR GAMEPLAY so why do you even care.
It's not unusual at all for corps to question and discipline shoddy business decisions, failfits and facepalm-worthy tactics. Some have strict requirements for admission: high SP count, specific skill sets, scouting/FC/PvP experience, etc. If I'm running a corp that focuses on maxing out combat effectiveness, and you choose a new shirt over a better ship, better equipment, or even a better ship for your wingmate, I'd have to question whether your interests are the corp's interests.
This may not be how you'd roll, but that's why you won't be in one of these corps. These corps want a certain kind of person, and they have decided that buying NEx stuff is a clear enough indicator that a pilot isn't one of those people.
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Sahvi Morvaalis
R U D E
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Posted - 2011.06.23 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Salomei
Originally by: Theodoric Darkwind
Control freak much. So now some alliances feel the need to police what their members spend their isk/RL cash on. Seriously get over it, CCP put in some OPTIONAL microtransaction items and you can still purchase them for isk if you want too, vanity MT items DO NOT EFFECT YOUR GAMEPLAY so why do you even care.
It's not unusual at all for corps to question and discipline shoddy business decisions, failfits and facepalm-worthy tactics. Some have strict requirements for admission: high SP count, specific skill sets, scouting/FC/PvP experience, etc. If I'm running a corp that focuses on maxing out combat effectiveness, and you choose a new shirt over a better ship, better equipment, or even a better ship for your wingmate, I'd have to question whether your interests are the corp's interests.
This may not be how you'd roll, but that's why you won't be in one of these corps. These corps want a certain kind of person, and they have decided that buying NEx stuff is a clear enough indicator that a pilot isn't one of those people.
This right here. I'm still learning to PvP, but I can completely understand this point of view. Team play in alliances like PL is paramount to success... and if you're dropping money on useless crap when you could be faction fitting a new T3 battleship for the good of your alliance/corporation, your priorities are not in line with theirs. Simple as that.
I wouldn't have so much of an issue with said items if they weren't so exorbitantly priced... but $70 USD for a useless monocle? Really?? I'd rather buy myself a couple new faction fit Dramiels. :\
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Voixy
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Posted - 2011.06.23 21:42:00 -
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Just a newb here. Still in a newb Corp, but wanted to say I support this initiative fully. I didn't join this game only to find everyone's sub fees have been used to implement a shoddy tech-demo for some other MMO.
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Rek Seven
Gallente
Zandathorn Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.23 21:55:00 -
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I fully support this plan and i think it's the best course of action if we want the game we love to keep going.
If things continue then players will lose more and more control over what happens in EVE. More things (ships and items) will be created and sold by CCP and not the player. This will break the one thing that makes eve unique... the player driven economy.
The big alliances/corporations are the only people who can make a difference here.
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Loki Elis
Naughty 40
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Posted - 2011.06.23 22:24:00 -
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+1 here too
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oldmanst4r
Minmatar
oldmanst4r's Corporation
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Posted - 2011.06.23 22:29:00 -
[191]
supported +1
Originally by: CCP Shadow
*snip* Castration successful. Shadow.
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Theodoric Darkwind
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.23 22:30:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Salomei
Originally by: Theodoric Darkwind
Control freak much. So now some alliances feel the need to police what their members spend their isk/RL cash on. Seriously get over it, CCP put in some OPTIONAL microtransaction items and you can still purchase them for isk if you want too, vanity MT items DO NOT EFFECT YOUR GAMEPLAY so why do you even care.
It's not unusual at all for corps to question and discipline shoddy business decisions, failfits and facepalm-worthy tactics. Some have strict requirements for admission: high SP count, specific skill sets, scouting/FC/PvP experience, etc. If I'm running a corp that focuses on maxing out combat effectiveness, and you choose a new shirt over a better ship, better equipment, or even a better ship for your wingmate, I'd have to question whether your interests are the corp's interests.
This may not be how you'd roll, but that's why you won't be in one of these corps. These corps want a certain kind of person, and they have decided that buying NEx stuff is a clear enough indicator that a pilot isn't one of those people.
So what if the pilot chooses to buy it with RL cash instead of isk? What if the pilot has a ton of extra isk laying around? If the pilot can afford it (lemme give you a hint, those buying the NEX stuff aren't deciding between ships and vanity items, they can afford both) then why should you give a crap.
As for buying ships for wingmates, if your buying ships for corpmates that corpmate is violating the first rule of eve "dont fly what you cant afford to lose".
So basically if they can afford the vanity stuff then who the hell cares if they buy it
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Havegun Willtravel
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Posted - 2011.06.23 22:31:00 -
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INCARNA BAN
From: Havegun Willtravel
Sent: 2011.06.23 19:07
To: Mobile Alcohol Processing Units,
Unless otherwise directed MAPU will be engaging in an Incarna Ban.
All members should refrain from purchasing any articles from the Nex shop.
Unless aquired through murder or other violent means we will retract or deny membership to anyone engaged at this time.
Additionaly we wil addopt a Shoot On Sight Policy to any other person who does.
Happy Hunting.
Thank you
Gun
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Mechanoid Kryten
Humble Origins
Red Dwarf Racketeering Division
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Posted - 2011.06.23 22:38:00 -
[194]
done
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Rek Seven
Gallente
Zandathorn Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.23 22:43:00 -
[195]
So is anyone going to be contacting CEO to gain support?
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Sphinx N'flight
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Posted - 2011.06.23 23:04:00 -
[196]
Edited by: Sphinx N''flight on 23/06/2011 23:04:33
This could be bordering on harassment of players, a form of collusion that is an attempt to drive people out of a game that, because of a feature CCP has made legal... an intentional act to stymie a persons game play,.. i hope everyone who does this gets a reverse ban
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Frederick Yassavi
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Posted - 2011.06.23 23:05:00 -
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Ah, sweet, sweet space fascism.
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Cave Lord
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Posted - 2011.06.23 23:08:00 -
[198]
Using in-game mechanics to thwart game-ruining mechanics? I LOVE IT!
VIVA LA SANDBOX (and in this case, the players too!)
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2011.06.23 23:11:00 -
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Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 23/06/2011 23:13:20
Originally by: Sphinx N'flight
Edited by: Sphinx N''flight on 23/06/2011 23:04:33
This could be bordering on harassment of players, a form of collusion that is an attempt to drive people out of a game that, because of a feature CCP has made legal... an intentional act to stymie a persons game play,.. i hope everyone who does this gets a reverse ban
CCP can't dictate who you let into your corp...nice try though.
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Zleon Leigh
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Posted - 2011.06.23 23:13:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Sphinx N'flight
Edited by: Sphinx N''flight on 23/06/2011 23:04:33
This could be bordering on harassment of players, a form of collusion that is an attempt to drive people out of a game that, because of a feature CCP has made legal... an intentional act to stymie a persons game play,.. i hope everyone who does this gets a reverse ban
And Hulkageddon is not harassment?
MTggeddon is on.
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Sphinx N'flight
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Posted - 2011.06.23 23:45:00 -
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But yet you want to control how someone spends their money?... so y not just kick/ban anyone who buys Plex's, or better yet ban/kick anyone who actually pays a Subscription...lol
oh btw, Hulkageddon is something totally different then what your proposing... If your just waking up Micro-transactions have been around for many years, and it's the way of the future, Micro-transaction actually bring in more money to a company then a stagnant monthly fee... so i could expect the CCP will one day totally drop a monthly sub, in favor of MTs
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Donatella D'Tren
Harbingers of Chaos Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.23 23:46:00 -
[202]
I support this product and/or service.
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.23 23:50:00 -
[203]
Botting is okay, exploit using is okay, spending a crapload of money for plex to purchase supercapitals is okay, but spending plex money for some monocle is creating a huge drama?
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Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Sphinx N'flight
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Posted - 2011.06.23 23:53:00 -
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Lets ban everyone under 18, and make it a clothing optional game...lol
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:01:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Alice Celadon
try hard elitist riff raff
cool story, jerkoff.
May as well ban anyone with Buying plex of the website of you idiots feel that strongly, where do you think your titans & supercaps came from?
explain to me the difference?
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:03:00 -
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If any more of my alts want to join my alliance and buy barbie clothes, they're gonna be in for a BIG surprise!
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Damien Corsair
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Damien Corsair on 24/06/2011 00:05:33
@ OP Alice and Grath of PL
Umm...so....why is it that Iloni Atoriandra is still in PL? Just curious.....seems a double standard is in-play..
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Majuan Shuo
Gallente
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:07:00 -
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even though im technically supposed to hate you - i hereby pledge my undying love for my enemy in 0.0
lets get this snowball rolling!
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Iloni Atoriandra
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:12:00 -
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Because it takes 24 hours for roles to be removed
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Arroganz
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:22:00 -
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I fully support this product.
+1
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