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Miss Panky
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Posted - 2011.06.24 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Raivi Thread needs a bump considering that we have some embryonic CCP dialogue now.
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Exxon Hess
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Posted - 2011.06.24 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Illadelph Justice Well thought out, rational ideas.
Agreed on all counts.
1. This would be really nice for the times where you dock just to do something quickly- get repairs, resupply, etc. I love the look and concept of CQ. I don't love having to wait 30s to get there. Basically, CQ-lite (be it "spinning" or whatever). Sometimes I don't have time to sit on the sofa and watch the news.
2. I can't fault CCP for trying to find new revenue streams. But they need to be very careful to not disrupt the player-based economy at the same time. 100 AUR = Pink Scorpion -> bad. 100 AUR + Scorpion = Pink Scorpion -> good. I don't like the AUR-for-standings idea. It seems much more natural to allow ISK-based bribes, though, as it works well as from a storyline perspective (some agents will be more corrupt and willing to accept a bribe than others) and this could work well as an ISK-sink. In any case, people are getting far too worked up about the internal memo- its just ideas about a possible direction that is under consideration, and not fully baked. Companies do this sort of thing all the time. We should wait and see what their offically stated policy will be before storming the castle.
3. I really can't figure out why they didn't do this. They should have started out with some cheap stuff (in addition to what they have) just to get people used to the mechanics of the cash-AUR-ISK cycle.
4. This is forcing my to update my gaming machine. I'm a casual gamer, Eve is the only non-console game I play. I'm not terribly happy about this, but I understand why CCP has set the bar where they have.
5. I have no doubt CCP is aware of the current forum/blog explosions. The fact that they're waiting so long leads me to believe that there are a lot of phone calls and meetings going on right now to figure out what they can fix in the short term, and how to present that to the player base.
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Raven Cala
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Posted - 2011.06.24 14:53:00 -
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bump +1, Account -1, as it still seems they just hope this thunderstorm is going over and sun will be shining again
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skajit spey
spey clave
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Posted - 2011.06.24 14:56:00 -
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bump
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BugraT WarheaD
Astromechanica Federatis
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Posted - 2011.06.24 15:02:00 -
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Edited by: BugraT WarheaD on 24/06/2011 15:02:48 Edited by: BugraT WarheaD on 24/06/2011 15:02:31
Originally by: Illadelph Justice 1. A disembark button. Return ship spinning and of you want to walk around you can push the button.
2. Keep microtransactions for vanity items only. This has been promised to us but it seems unlikely given the leaked document.
3. Add some reasonably priced vanity items. I don't really care about any of it, but if people want to spend billions on specialty items that's fine with me, like the dude who lives in the trailer park with the brand new corvette. Add some economy items for the working class spaceship pilot.
4. Address heat issues with hardware. I see you're looking into that now and good on you.
5. This is most important. Be open and honest with the players. The fact that you haven't responded in any way disturbs me. Even a "chill doods a dev blog is on the way!" would be welcome.
I demand this since the Alpha on Duality
so a big +1 to you man !
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Illadelph Justice
SniggWaffe FREE KARTTOON NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.24 15:39:00 -
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Bump ---
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Illadelph Justice
SniggWaffe FREE KARTTOON NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.24 16:58:00 -
[157]
We Shall Not Be Moved (Illadelph Justice by way of Pete Seeger)
We shall not, we shall not be moved, We shall not, we shall not be moved, Just like a tree that's planted by the water We shall not be moved
We're young and old together, we shall not be moved, We're young and old together, we shall not be moved, Just like a tree that's planted by the water We shall not be moved
We're women and men together, we shall not be moved, We're women and men together, we shall not be moved, Just like a tree that's planted by the water We shall not be moved
Here's the high sec and null sec together, we shall not be moved, Here's the high sec and null sec together, we shall not be moved, Just like a tree that's standing by the water We shall not be moved
We're Amarr and Minmatar together we shall not be moved, We're Amarr and Minmatar together we shall not be moved, Just like a tree that's standing by the water We shall not be moved
Yes, vet and noob together we shall not be moved, Yes, vet and noob together we shall not be moved, Just like a tree that's planted by the water We shall not be moved
Well, it's no MTs is good MTs we shall not be moved, Well, it's no MTs is good MTs we shall not be moved, Just like a tree that's planted by the water We shall not be moved ---
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Miss Panky
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Illadelph Justice We Shall Not Be Moved (Illadelph Justice by way of Pete Seeger)
We shall not, we shall not be moved, We shall not, we shall not be moved, Just like a tree that's planted by the water We shall not be moved
We're young and old together, we shall not be moved, We're young and old together, we shall not be moved, Just like a tree that's planted by the water We shall not be moved
We're women and men together, we shall not be moved, We're women and men together, we shall not be moved, Just like a tree that's planted by the water We shall not be moved
Here's the high sec and null sec together, we shall not be moved, Here's the high sec and null sec together, we shall not be moved, Just like a tree that's standing by the water We shall not be moved
We're Amarr and Minmatar together we shall not be moved, We're Amarr and Minmatar together we shall not be moved, Just like a tree that's standing by the water We shall not be moved
Yes, vet and noob together we shall not be moved, Yes, vet and noob together we shall not be moved, Just like a tree that's planted by the water We shall not be moved
Well, it's no MTs is good MTs we shall not be moved, Well, it's no MTs is good MTs we shall not be moved, Just like a tree that's planted by the water We shall not be moved
+1
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Casha Andven
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Illadelph Justice 1. A disembark button. Return ship spinning and of you want to walk around you can push the button.
2. Keep microtransactions for vanity items only. This has been promised to us but it seems unlikely given the leaked document.
3. Add some reasonably priced vanity items. I don't really care about any of it, but if people want to spend billions on specialty items that's fine with me, like the dude who lives in the trailer park with the brand new corvette. Add some economy items for the working class spaceship pilot.
4. Address heat issues with hardware. I see you're looking into that now and good on you.
5. This is most important. Be open and honest with the players. The fact that you haven't responded in any way disturbs me. Even a "chill doods a dev blog is on the way!" would be welcome.
Makes a lot of sense.
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Illadelph Justice
SniggWaffe FREE KARTTOON NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:29:00 -
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wow i was just looking for this thread somewhere around page 6, but apparently you bumped it to the front. thanks! ---
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Illadelph Justice
SniggWaffe FREE KARTTOON NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:45:00 -
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would like to keep this near the top, hopefully over all of the spam, at least until the rumored dev blog comes out.
K? ---
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Miss Panky
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:51:00 -
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k bump
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Swren1
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:58:00 -
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+1 - BRING BACK THE OLD STATION VIEW
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Skanky Panky
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Swren1 +1 - BRING BACK THE OLD STATION VIEW
Bump
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Herping yourDerp
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:20:00 -
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confirming that this 5 step program will lead to success for CCP, at least this expansion
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Novak Sarin
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Posted - 2011.06.24 19:21:00 -
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Agree completely
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Illadelph Justice
SniggWaffe FREE KARTTOON NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:14:00 -
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wow trying to keep this above loads of spam is not working at all, now is it?
I gotta go do some things. See you all on page 15 ---
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Merasa Tro
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:18:00 -
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THIS.
Says everything I said in the threadnaught.
So +1 and bumpage from me.
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Toovhon
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:23:00 -
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The most sensible post I've seen since this epic mess began. CCP needs to listen to this guy. -- Frog blast the vent core! |
Illadelph Justice
SniggWaffe FREE KARTTOON NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:23:00 -
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Also, to all the posters and protesters out there. I used to be a labor organizer and design grassroots campaign strategy. You're doing good, but you need to work on your messaging. It's about picking clear targets that you can move and designing tactics around that. I've seen the Jita protest stuff, and it looks good, but I'm not there right now to see it for real. I wonder how clear the messaging is, and I wonder how big an effect it is having. Blocking anyone from logging on to Jita is p. badass. It's like a sit-in blocking street traffic--you're going to make some people very angry, but it shows a strong support base that is willing to do what is necessary. It's not about RAGING and spergy threads, its about picking clear and concise demands and focusing on that.
But so far its working. CCP Fallout says there's a devblog coming out, so there must be a devblog coming out. It's a sensitive PR issue for CCP and they are going to take their time with it. I want to see it as much as you all do, but we shouldn't get mad that its not out yet. If it's not out within a few hours, however, it is probably a delay tactic and you all have to escalate.
Remember, we do not own CCP, we are merely their customers. And consumers DO have power, but we have to demonstrate that power.
For the record, I am not going to try to organize you, or tell you what to do, or any of that, because I believe that we need to hear the dev's response before going all nutty.
Chill space brotatos, it's a game, and we have made ourselves (kind of) clear so far. Let's hear the response and do so RATIONALLY and CALMLY.
Illa out. ---
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Miss Panky
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Illadelph Justice Also, to all the posters and protesters out there. I used to be a labor organizer and design grassroots campaign strategy. You're doing good, but you need to work on your messaging. It's about picking clear targets that you can move and designing tactics around that. I've seen the Jita protest stuff, and it looks good, but I'm not there right now to see it for real. I wonder how clear the messaging is, and I wonder how big an effect it is having. Blocking anyone from logging on to Jita is p. badass. It's like a sit-in blocking street traffic--you're going to make some people very angry, but it shows a strong support base that is willing to do what is necessary. It's not about RAGING and spergy threads, its about picking clear and concise demands and focusing on that.
But so far its working. CCP Fallout says there's a devblog coming out, so there must be a devblog coming out. It's a sensitive PR issue for CCP and they are going to take their time with it. I want to see it as much as you all do, but we shouldn't get mad that its not out yet. If it's not out within a few hours, however, it is probably a delay tactic and you all have to escalate.
Remember, we do not own CCP, we are merely their customers. And consumers DO have power, but we have to demonstrate that power.
For the record, I am not going to try to organize you, or tell you what to do, or any of that, because I believe that we need to hear the dev's response before going all nutty.
Chill space brotatos, it's a game, and we have made ourselves (kind of) clear so far. Let's hear the response and do so RATIONALLY and CALMLY.
Illa out.
+1 BUMP
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The Ringer
SniggWaffe FREE KARTTOON NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:53:00 -
[172]
+1 to the top
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Blue mistique
Gallente Onyx Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.24 21:41:00 -
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1] CCP Please implement this. 2] CCP have only promised this for the moment! ("and we will re-asses this in the future") 3] Providing they stay vanity items only (see point 2). 4] CQ Kicks the hell out of my GPU - I shouldnt be generating more heat when I dock! Thank you CCP for looking into this as the OP said. 5] CCP - we want / need to hear from you. Yes there will (hopefully) be a devblog soon(tm) but this PR debacle has been going on for way too long for us not to have heard from you.
OP - nice post ^_^
(i will edit point 2 properly when I can dig out the post from CCP that I got that from)
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Mike Voltage
Minmatar Majestic Trust
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Posted - 2011.06.24 21:49:00 -
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Agree +1 "My God -- It's Full of Stars!"
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DraconisAlpha
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Posted - 2011.06.24 21:59:00 -
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/signed
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Balardo
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: Illadelph Justice Edited by: Illadelph Justice on 24/06/2011 18:50:30 2. Keep microtransactions for vanity items only. This has been promised to us but it seems unlikely given the leaked document.
We trusted CCP with AUR. That was clearly a mistake.
AUR needs to go to save Eve.
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Aedeal
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:35:00 -
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1, 2 and 5 are the most important IMO
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Brina Strom
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:37:00 -
[178]
+1. bump
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Illadelph Justice
SniggWaffe FREE KARTTOON NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.25 14:55:00 -
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So I am disappointed with the dev blog for which I was urging calm.
Seriously is that all you got? ---
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Illadelph Justice
SniggWaffe FREE KARTTOON NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:09:00 -
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BUMP ---
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