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Algathas
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:01:00 -
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My anger is not about Incarna or the captains quarters. I actually have no performance issues with them and think they are a step in the right direction.
My anger is with the direction this game is going. When I started EVE, I did so because of its player run economy and the fact that it did not have MT. If the spirit of the game was kept, we would have seen paint and textiles made from PI. People manufacturing clothes and painting ships from patterns.
Instead we're left with a money grab of poofing clothes and paint out of thin air for money. These items are not in line with the rest of the game world. Seriously.. articles of clothing that cost more than fully fitted pirate battleships, carriers, and dreads?
Incarna could have been the greatest step for EVE, but instead became the expansion where EVE is no longer the EVE we love.
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Algathas
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
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Posted - 2011.06.24 02:35:00 -
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Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?
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Algathas
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
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Posted - 2011.06.24 07:17:00 -
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Edited by: Algathas on 24/06/2011 07:17:24
 Originally by: Benilopax
Originally by: Pat Morrison
Originally by: Axemaster
This is terrible and pathetic on every level.
Explain to us when you allowed money bagging fools into the company.
Then tell us when they will be leaving.
Otherwise things will most likely continue on their current path to destruction.
They're running the place. Joseph Gallo, former Citigroup managing director, is now the CFO, and is responsible for the strategic initiatives of the company.
ROFLMAO!
It's no wonder that CCP is going to fail. From the wiki:
"Citigroup suffered huge losses during the global financial crisis of 2008 and was rescued in November 2008 in a massive stimulus package by the U.S. government" The same year this guy who was a managing director for 14 years left them. Coincidence? I think not lol.
Haha CCP you hired a managing director of a crumbling bank to direct your strategic initiatives. That says it all.
This is unbelievable!
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Algathas
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
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Posted - 2011.06.24 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Glyken Touchon
Originally by: Algathas
Joseph Gallo:
June 2009 û Present (2 years 1 month)
"As CFO of CCP Games, Joe oversees the financial positioning and reporting of CCP. He is also responsible for the strategic initiatives of the Company and relations with its investors."
His previous work history:
"Managing Director, Investment Banking
Citigroup
This explains a lot too.
I worked to help build a company IRL which was eventually sold to a publicly traded company. I ended up in a management position right below the C level people in this company.
Before we sold to them, our ideals were to build a great company and it would speak for itself, causing the money to come in and our clients to love us.
After we were merged with the publicly traded company the company ended up running flat. The "C" level people were more interested in how they could spin buzz words to investors than making a great company. They would open more offices not because they were needed, but because investors like seeing a bunch of offices nationwide as a showing of their presence, even if we could do the same performance from a single office.
In the end, I left my six figure salaried plus bonus position at the company because I knew I could not fight the mentality of spin the C level management was putting out. 2 years later the company became another Enronesque scandal and imploded into nonexistance.
This same spin is what we see here in CCP. Suddenly Gallo and others take over in upper management, and they brings around investors. They don't play the game. Their job is to spin to investors reasons to invest. Rich investors like words like "Microtransactions" or even fancier ones like "Virtual Goods Sales". The FOTM money making idea. Of course the lower grunts that develop and do play the game won't all share this mentality, so they either leave or are pushed to believe it by documents like "Fearless".
EVE is no longer the game we signed up for long ago. It is being twisted as a tool to raise share prices. Whether that is successful for CCP remains to be seen. Perhaps they will get lucky and attract more new customers than the old ones they shed. The problem is, until those mythical new customers are actually signed up and paying, then all they are is mere projections, not reality. The current player base is real income in hand.
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Algathas
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
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Posted - 2011.06.24 15:51:00 -
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"DISCLAIMER: The views put forward in this magazine do not reflect general CCP company policies or decisions and are strictly individual opinions, written by CCPers or about CCPers who feel strongly about these issues. This is confidential internal information. Please respect that every company has its trade secrets and that you are privy to those at CCP."
Yeah, sure you can say that but lets analyze this for a moment:
The personal views of the leaders of a company *are* the views of the company, as those leaders will impress those views on their subordinates and push for that direction. Plus using "personal view"/"individual opinion" and "Internal information"/"Trade secret" in the same sentence kindof clashes don't you think?
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Algathas
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:07:00 -
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Well CCP you may think you won because you sold some monocles. But guess what you paid which was greater: Goodwill. Sure you may have gotten a 1 off on some idiots buying a monocle but at the cost of how many subscriptions which would have lasted for *years*? Good trade. lol.
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Algathas
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:54:00 -
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Originally by: Bloodpetal
Do you really think they're about to wake up in an hour and have expected this to go away when they log in to work? That we'd just roll over and drop it?
Did they miss the fact that there are many more of us than them?
They did a survey and the results likely showed that even if they lost the anti MT people, they would make more money from the people that accept it than they loose in subs.
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Algathas
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
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Posted - 2011.06.25 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: RougeOperator
Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
When are all you lads who are still threatening to quit if CCP does ONE MORE thing to **** you off going to man up, stop being battered wives and unsubscribe?
That's the ONLY chance you have to save the game.
Yeah the losers that wont unsub and keep saying "one more thing" when we already went past that 2 things back need to grow a pair.
Already unsubbed
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Algathas
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
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Posted - 2011.06.25 05:56:00 -
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Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Originally by: Arvir Aris
I finally un****ed my forum account just so I could post in this thread, and to condense all my thoughts down to a single sentence fragment, the past day has been eye opening. To say the least.
I am not going to fall victim to hysteria. I will however not renew my subscription if there is no solid denial of sandbox-altering MT content within a reasonable timeframe, within about the next week or so. Everyone in this thread has raised reasonable concerns; no one in this thread is whining, and though there is a good bit of hysteria present in this thread I'd be a ****ing moron if I said it was baseless.
As many others have said, the silence from CCP so far has been deafening.
You should try to read first few pages.
There is an reply from CCP *-forgot his name-*
NO we wont implenet things in NEX which wil **** up the sandbox.
You mean won't **** up their new vision of the sandbox with MT ammo, ships, faction standings, pay for more fitting storage, etc.
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Algathas
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
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Posted - 2011.06.25 08:28:00 -
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Originally by: TheTravler2
Originally by: Miilla
Anybody found a $1000 pair of Jeans yet?
Yep,
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/StockInvestingTrading/1000ForAPairOfJeans.aspx
I will sell you my jeans for $1000
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Algathas
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
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Posted - 2011.06.25 08:40:00 -
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Originally by: Zuquar Bonaparte
Edited by: Zuquar Bonaparte on 25/06/2011 08:38:50
Originally by: Horn Silver
Originally by: Rellik B00n
Edited by: Rellik B00n on 25/06/2011 08:27:13
YES, BUT..
ARE YOU MOVING PAST VANITY ITEMS FOR AURUM?:(WITHIN THE NEXT 5 YEARS) [ ] YES
[ ] NO
Answer the question...... 
fixed the first quote or they will just say no and then do it anyway in 6 months
Answer! I use my monocle on you!
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Algathas
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Manifest
The community team, likewise, has had their hands full with (as leniently as possible) enforcing forum rules and relaying information. We're all in it for the long haul though.
If some of my responses that I end up making do sound glib, I can assure you it is not because I don't understand the gravity of the situation at hand or the trueness of emotion/logic behind player opinion. It's because, frankly, of who I am.
Furthermore, if only some stuff gets answers or some seemingly random threads get attention, its also the nature of that same beast. Thanks for listening.
AKA "Were focusing on censoring your comments and banning you, not on answering your question. We only answer questions which show us in a positive light."
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Algathas
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
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Posted - 2011.06.25 22:24:00 -
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PAGE 300!
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Algathas
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
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Posted - 2011.06.25 22:52:00 -
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What CCP is actually doing right now is getting all devs to finish the new forums so they can erase the threadnarock from the history books.
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Algathas
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
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Posted - 2011.06.26 04:53:00 -
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Originally by: Vandrion
The answer was in the newsletter......
In short, itÆs the same in Incarna
as elsewhere: we give players
the means to buy stuff in addition
to their base subscription, offering
things like new ônano-paintsö that
allow one to customize ships while
docked; new articles of virtual
clothing, tattoos, and other avatar
customizations; tokens for customizing
CaptainÆs Quarters and so
on. Not all virtual purchases will
focus on customization: some will
simply be new items, ammunition,
ships, etc. that can be purchased
outright. The devil, as always, is in
the details.
This was printed after the fun comments by the LOSER dev and the HERO dev.
Read the whole news letter... It spells it all out in large print......
"The devil, as always, is in the details." Hence why the devs carefully craft their words to make us think one thing while they are doing another.
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Algathas
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
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Posted - 2011.06.26 09:22:00 -
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Edited by: Algathas on 26/06/2011 09:23:51
10000! Mua hahahahahahahahha!
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Algathas
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
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Posted - 2011.06.26 18:54:00 -
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"No gold ammo" is not the same as "no non vanity items". I definitely will not be renewing my subs until a real non-spin answer is given.
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Algathas
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
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Posted - 2011.06.26 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Flesh Slurper
Very disappointing. So we already pay you a fee per month for this game and its features, and now you want us to pay you again on top of that.
Not to mention that clothes will cost more than a whole ship. If an article of clothing costs more isk than even an executioner it will be laughable at best.
And for those who think that it will give more $ to develop the things in eve we have been wanting think again. The $ will only fund devs to make more of this utter crap instead of fixing / adding core features to the game. Why should they update and add things for "free" when they can **** you for more cash by making clothes with their time. This is already evident with the last updates. Nerf this, screw that, bunch of updates with little thought or effort put into them, while their devs are spending time proudly making clothes to sell.
If they really wanted to make clothes a great system, they would make a way to manufacture them with patterns, PI textiles, dyes, etc. The same with painting your ship - paints could be manufactured, industrialists could paint ships, etc. Instead were left with disappointment.
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Algathas
Minmatar
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
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Posted - 2011.06.27 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: Harelip Jenkins
The problem I see with P2W items is the slippery slope.
Lets say that the new incoming crowd of players loves the idea of being able to purchase wtfpwn guns from the NEX. They buy said guns and what's left of the player base happily ganks said noob and loots the new $hiney wtfpwn guns.
The first thing that is going to happen is that newb is going to raise holy hell that he paid cash for those guns and it isn't fair that he lost them so quickly and will refuse to buy more because its a waste of money.
Do you think CCP will protect the old dinosaur player that is damaging its new revenue stream or will rush in to protect the bottom line?
What actions do they have available to protect that revenue stream from drying up?
This is already evident. The clothing items were supposed to be destroyed when you were podded. Now they aren't because people complained.
"[i]We have spais in their base.
Our propaganda machine is much larger and stronger than theirs
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Algathas
Minmatar
The Revenge of Auntie Freeze
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Posted - 2011.06.27 04:26:00 -
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they are probably stalling so they can get the new forums up to erase all the topics currently up in one shot.
"[i]We have spais in their base.
Our propaganda machine is much larger and stronger than theirs
We have better organizational capabilities |
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