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CCP Pann
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:30:00 -
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Hi, everyone
Some of you who have been around for a while may remember me. I was the original community manager for EVE. These days, I oversee the PR and Community teams. While most of what I do happens behind the curtains, I am still aware of whatÆs going on front and center. I would be lying if I said that whatÆs happening now didnÆt make me sad, but IÆm not here to ask for your sympathy. To be perfectly honest, IÆm here to buy time while we try to sort things out. No sense in lying about it so I'll call a spade a spade.
ItÆs clear that many of you are <understatement alert> angry </alert>. ThereÆs a lot happening, things are changing quickly and we havenÆt been as forthcoming as you were used to in the past. IÆm willing to step out front and take a lot of heat for that since I was the one who made the decision to hold off on responding for a while to see if things cooled down once the new wore off. I was wrong to do that and I apologize. We should have said something much sooner. We should have done more to address your concerns and be forthcoming, even if we werenÆt going to be able to immediately give you all of the answers you were looking for or the answer your questions in ways that will instantly turn those frowns upside down. To be even more candid, I cannot answer all of your questions, either, but I am working with the people who can to start getting those answers for you. Again, I know weÆre doing this past the expiration date of your patience but I hope youÆll bear with me. I know that, with very few exceptions, most of you donÆt know me from Adam. I havenÆt earned your trust or respect; therefore I have no right to ask anything of you û but I am going to try, anyway. Can I please count on at least some of you to help bring the pitchforks and torches down a few notches?
Like I said, I wonÆt be able to answer all of your questions tonight, but I promise weÆll start getting some info out tomorrow. As I see it, the chief complaint is regarding the high cost of goods in the Nobel Market. Second, many people are unhappy about the CaptainÆs Quarters. Third, there are some performance issues with Incarna. I would appreciate it if you would confirm my observations or tell me what IÆm missing, but I do ask that you do it in a productive way. I will remove posts without prejudice if they are counterproductive to the conversation I hope to have with you.
If youÆve read this much, thanks for staying with me. If you have something to say, IÆd like very much to hear it.
Humbly yours, ~P~
Valerie "Pann" Massey
CCP PR & Communications Director [email protected]
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Xercodo
Amarr Daj'Juntar
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:31:00 -
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first?
-------------------------------------------------- The drake is a lie |
AdmiralJohn
Gallente Origin of Sanshaa
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:33:00 -
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Do you have any definitive idea of the future of Aurum?
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Khamal Jolstien
Caldari Sick Tight BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Pann Hi, everyone
Some of you who have been around for a while may remember me. I was the original community manager for EVE. These days, I oversee the PR and Community teams. While most of what I do happens behind the curtains, I am still aware of whatÆs going on front and center. I would be lying if I said that whatÆs happening now didnÆt make me sad, but IÆm not here to ask for your sympathy. To be perfectly honest, IÆm here to buy time while we try to sort things out. No sense in lying about it so I'll call a spade a spade.
ItÆs clear that many of you are <understatement alert> angry </alert>. ThereÆs a lot happening, things are changing quickly and we havenÆt been as forthcoming as you were used to in the past. IÆm willing to step out front and take a lot of heat for that since I was the one who made the decision to hold off on responding for a while to see if things cooled down once the new wore off. I was wrong to do that and I apologize. We should have said something much sooner. We should have done more to address your concerns and be forthcoming, even if we werenÆt going to be able to immediately give you all of the answers you were looking for or the answer your questions in ways that will instantly turn those frowns upside down. To be even more candid, I cannot answer all of your questions, either, but I am working with the people who can to start getting those answers for you. Again, I know weÆre doing this past the expiration date of your patience but I hope youÆll bear with me. I know that, with very few exceptions, most of you donÆt know me from Adam. I havenÆt earned your trust or respect; therefore I have no right to ask anything of you û but I am going to try, anyway. Can I please count on at least some of you to help bring the pitchforks and torches down a few notches?
Like I said, I wonÆt be able to answer all of your questions tonight, but I promise weÆll start getting some info out tomorrow. As I see it, the chief complaint is regarding the high cost of goods in the Nobel Market. Second, many people are unhappy about the CaptainÆs Quarters. Third, there are some performance issues with Incarna. I would appreciate it if you would confirm my observations or tell me what IÆm missing, but I do ask that you do it in a productive way. I will remove posts without prejudice if they are counterproductive to the conversation I hope to have with you.
If youÆve read this much, thanks for staying with me. If you have something to say, IÆd like very much to hear it.
Humbly yours, ~P~
Address the internal newsletter, and enact a change in direction or else anything you have to say means nothing, and you'll keep losing subs.
Originally by: McKinlay When you get on the batphone and the only people left in the phone book are Aeternus and BLAST it might be time to hang up.
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Deamos
Dev Null Development and Holdings
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Pann Hi, everyone
Some of you who have been around for a while may remember me. I was the original community manager for EVE. These days, I oversee the PR and Community teams. While most of what I do happens behind the curtains, I am still aware of whatÆs going on front and center. I would be lying if I said that whatÆs happening now didnÆt make me sad, but IÆm not here to ask for your sympathy. To be perfectly honest, IÆm here to buy time while we try to sort things out. No sense in lying about it so I'll call a spade a spade.
ItÆs clear that many of you are <understatement alert> angry </alert>. ThereÆs a lot happening, things are changing quickly and we havenÆt been as forthcoming as you were used to in the past. IÆm willing to step out front and take a lot of heat for that since I was the one who made the decision to hold off on responding for a while to see if things cooled down once the new wore off. I was wrong to do that and I apologize. We should have said something much sooner. We should have done more to address your concerns and be forthcoming, even if we werenÆt going to be able to immediately give you all of the answers you were looking for or the answer your questions in ways that will instantly turn those frowns upside down. To be even more candid, I cannot answer all of your questions, either, but I am working with the people who can to start getting those answers for you. Again, I know weÆre doing this past the expiration date of your patience but I hope youÆll bear with me. I know that, with very few exceptions, most of you donÆt know me from Adam. I havenÆt earned your trust or respect; therefore I have no right to ask anything of you û but I am going to try, anyway. Can I please count on at least some of you to help bring the pitchforks and torches down a few notches?
Like I said, I wonÆt be able to answer all of your questions tonight, but I promise weÆll start getting some info out tomorrow. As I see it, the chief complaint is regarding the high cost of goods in the Nobel Market. Second, many people are unhappy about the CaptainÆs Quarters. Third, there are some performance issues with Incarna. I would appreciate it if you would confirm my observations or tell me what IÆm missing, but I do ask that you do it in a productive way. I will remove posts without prejudice if they are counterproductive to the conversation I hope to have with you.
If youÆve read this much, thanks for staying with me. If you have something to say, IÆd like very much to hear it.
Humbly yours, ~P~
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Ris Dnalor
Minmatar Fleet of Doom RaVeN Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:33:00 -
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hangon I'll get you a list and a quote to the appropriate thread that has them all in deatil. will be updating in 1 minute.
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Morino Heian
Interstellar Cookies Distribution
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:34:00 -
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Lots of e-hate incoming. Brace yourself.
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Major Stallion
The Dark Horses.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:34:00 -
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assure us your post is nothing short of "damage control" and empty words...one year ago today we were promised Micro Transactions were never going to be apart of eve... |
Smoking Blunts
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:34:00 -
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so your here to damage control this mess.
incarna sucks for all the reasons that have been stated many many times. pc loading, over use of system resorces, not being optional.
MT many others will rage about this. i just think this has shown you to be lying money grabers
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Moolti
Gallente Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:34:00 -
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Edited by: Moolti on 24/06/2011 00:35:19 We're passionate about eve. We get passionate when we worry about something we care so much for. Many of us are very emotionally invested in this product. We need to be able to trust CCP that they have it's best interests at heart.
The past few days have damaged that trust for many. I hope it can be regained. . @)}---^----- The Jove are a warning to us all. We must remember to live and Love and feel. Fall in Love, make Love, be beautful and see the beautiful. For we mustn't loose our human spark |
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari The D'Celeste Trading Company ISK Six
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:34:00 -
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The direction that CCP has for EVE is probably the largest concern, since there seems to be a difference between the public vision and the internal company vision. ______________________________
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Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries R-I-P
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: Desert Ice78 on 24/06/2011 00:34:50 Have not read yet, but WWOOOOOOOOOOO, a Dev responce!!!!!!
Will be back.....
/puts on monocle
CCP: Consistency since 2003 |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:35:00 -
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I'd like to know if that "document" floating around is supported by CCP? It looks fake, but some clarification on that would help (hopefully) calm the forum community down a bit.
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
Majuan Shuo
Gallente Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Pann Hi, everyone
As I see it, the chief complaint is regarding the high cost of goods in the Nobel Market.
Then you are blind, go get us someone else.
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Miss Yanumano
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:35:00 -
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oh my!
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Tachibana Kanade
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:35:00 -
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And the most important topic of all.
THE LEAK.
Who cares about a monocle, I want to see if you are all trying to sell T3 Ammo or something for AUR only.
CHeerio
A fellow Un-subber
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Jeff Severasse
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Morino Heian Lots of e-hate incoming. Brace yourself.
Lot's doesnt even come close...so yeah be ready.
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:35:00 -
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Has soundwave been fired yet?
Will all future editions of 'Fearless' be released publicly?
Is there anything else you've lied to the playerbase about (MT for vanity ONLY) that we might like to know about?
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Doc Fury
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: Doc Fury on 24/06/2011 00:35:42 We're not upset that you lied to us CCP, we're upset that from now on we can't believe you.
/I am not a Golden Goose
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:35:00 -
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Toasting in an epic phread.
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Zleon Leigh
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:35:00 -
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Suggest you sticky this soon, otherwise it will be on page 3 in 15 minutes.
(more content to be added later) (uh, nothing meant by that)
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Galane
The Interstellar Lunatic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Pann As I see it, the chief complaint is regarding the high cost of goods in the Nobel Market.
Linkage
The thread with over 127,000 views in just over 24 hours would seem to indicate the chief complaint is CCP lying to their customers and plotting to introduce items that give in-game advantages into the cash shop whether we like it or not.
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Myra2007
Millstone Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:35:00 -
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You are missing the leaked newsletter. Of all those things this has caused the biggest outcry. Don't make the mistake of thinking you can put this under the rug. -- Zinfandelgate - A fictionalized account of the events that led to June, 21st |
Token Afrodude
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Khamal Jolstien
Address the internal newsletter, and enact a change in direction or else anything you have to say means nothing, and you'll keep losing subs.
+1.
It's a real pity CCP isn't affiliated with Apple, or their manufacturer Foxconn from China.
If they released such a fail patch, they'd all be on the roof flinging themselves off in Shame |
Takishu
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:36:00 -
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Damn, they bring us back the Ancients.
Rep' to you for stepping in the line of fire. You are right on most of your points, except that you cannot take them one from another. You are trying to force us to dig your stuff, and you are doing it wrong, with despictables intents. THAT's the problem, and it covers all the points you told.
Stop bull****ting us, and take actions. Now.
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Gwenywell Shumuku
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:36:00 -
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Just be upfront with us. Treat us like YOU would like to be treated as a customer. And remember, we don't buy a 6pack here, we buy longtime time investment in a hobby.
No trust, no time investment. Or do you invest in stuff where the outcome is pretty much riddled with lies, 180¦ turns and "we make it up as we go" mentality?
Thx.
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Reed Tiburon
Caldari Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:36:00 -
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Edited by: Reed Tiburon on 24/06/2011 00:36:39 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1534552
Do you see the bit where CCP says one thing to the players (Vanity MT only, WE PROMISE!) and another thing completely internally (selling faction standing, selling ships, selling ammo, selling more than 50 fitting slots)?
Do you understand how we might be a teensy bit angry about that? About being treated like imbeciles, children who'll lap up any shiny as long as it's presented properly and introduced slowly enough?
And most importantly: Do you understand how, on a basic level, this destroys the promise of EVE Online? --- Which is the best DOOR picture??? Bartholomeus Crane speaks out! [img]ht |
Couriercontractalt
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:36:00 -
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Thank you for you candor CCP pann. You have the three primary issues stated in your post and I look forward to info tomorrow.
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Evelgrivion
Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:36:00 -
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Edited by: Evelgrivion on 24/06/2011 00:36:49 Here's my big question that I demand an answer to.
Are you going to **** the EVE Online sandbox over for Monetary Transactions or not? If not, all is forgiven. If MTs are going to impact the sandbox, start printing your resumes and god help you all.
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5nake pliskan
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Pann As I see it, the chief complaint is regarding the high cost of goods in the Nobel Market. Second, many people are unhappy about the CaptainÆs Quarters. Third, there are some performance issues with Incarna.
you need glasses
what about the outright lies about MT as revealed in the leaked pdf? selling faction? selling weapons? selling ships? ------------------------------------------------ There is a theory which states that if anyone discovers just exactly what the universe is for and why we are here, that it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. Then there is a theory which states that this has already happened. á á -Douglas Adams
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