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Elondris Singh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kez Aumer
Originally by: Amber Villaneous I would like a formal apology from every asshat in these forums that flamed me over the last few years when I told you this was coming.
Hello, I'm from the PR department of flaming asshats. We want you to know that we're very sorry, and we should have been sorry earlier.
Please keep in mind that I'm just a spokes-asshat, and can only serve as a mouthpiece. I'll try to get some answers for you tomorrow or something.
*snerk* :) ____ "There was a time in the evolution of all things that work, when it didn't" Thoughts on Incarna |
Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:06:00 -
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascading_failure http://www.pnas.org/content/105/36/13223/F2.large.jpg http://www.ece.wisc.edu/~dobson/FIGURES/118line_L1G1.67P0.0001Mod.gif http://www.theriac.org/DeskReference/HTMLs/Blueprints/DesigningForReliability/table27.jpg
For the few remaining paying customers.
His name was John Turbefield! Truth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc Best brief on the details. FREE HELICITY |
Kylar Tesh
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:06:00 -
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For me it is very simple.
I have always liked EVE.
As a subscriber and customer I will only continue to subscribe as long as I see value in the game.
Requests for parley and apologies mean nothing. CCP has done this over and over with what result?
In the end...when as a customer I fail to enjoy whats offered anymore...I will stop subscribing.
Game Over
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Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: Alexis Sachs
Um, no actually it's not. Or perhaps that's not fair of me. I shall explain...
It very well may be a technical masterpiece on some level of unprecedented new technology that is in its infancy. If so, fair play! Good job CCP/Nvidia partnership! Maybe what we're seeing is some bare bones version of something truly spectacular that just needs time for kinks to be worked out. Again, if so, fair play! And in fact, I suspect this to be the case...
But. And this is a huge but... What can we now do? Not a hell of a lot. I hate to keep dragging the SL comparison into this. But if you think your Captain's Closet is amazing, seriously, go take a look at SL. You were impressed with the animations?! That truly is amusing to me. My first thought, and that of a friend of mine was this: I need my Huddles from SL with my AO. Because what our avatars need is a decent AO. (AO = animation override if you're not up on this SL talk - basically, new, better animations that override the default crap built into SL. It's actually impressive what the players of SL have done there - makes CQ look downright laughable.)
Now I grant you that the character creator is first rate. I completely agree. Shame we look nothing like what we made in the creator once we hit our Captain's Closet. My feeling is this - the creator makes avatars in SL look childish. SL makes our avatars in CQ look pathetic. SL makes our movements look pathetic. Never mind the fact we can actually do things in SL...
To be sure, I have no doubt that in time, it may be possible for CCP to totally outdo SL. But now? No, not even kind of close. I am thoroughly underwhelmed by a small room that houses an avatar, a spacecouch, and three monitors.
Oh, and while I too can run CQ smoothly (I'm fortunate to have just built a new machine) I don't think it should require what it does to draw a room and a poorly lit avatar.
Actually, I can agree to most of what you said: they're fair nuances. So, in the interest of this thread -- which I deem to be the need to call CCP on their outrageous MT plans -- I will just leave the 'heated' Incarna discussion (pun intended) for another place.
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Ciar Meara
Amarr Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:06:00 -
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Edited by: Ciar Meara on 24/06/2011 09:06:44 Where is Reynir Har=arson - Creative Director & co-founder of CCP
He used to be on the ball, the man with the plan. During the first fan fest he was almost in tears when he saw a couple of hundred of us sitting there watching him on the (now small) stage.
Does he like the current direction of the game seems to be takin?, is he lost to us also? ------------------------------------------------- A friend of death, a brother of luck and a son of a *****
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Fi1ippo
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:07:00 -
[2376]
Originally by: Ranka Mei
Originally by: Market Groper Are you serious? I can run CQ maxed out as well and it looks about as good as Half Life 2 (a 7-year old game) with much worse performance. I can't imagine how awful it would tank when you actually go to other environments with other players walking around as well.
For all the years work put into this, it's absolutely terrible, particularly in contrast to the very efficient and pretty in-space engine.
You're joking, right? The Half-Life 2 Source engine looks horrid next to what Incarna offers. If your CQ looks the same as HL2, then you're doing it wrong.
This.
CQ is pretty amazing, and i dont agree with removing it. Giving you people with crappy systems options to choose ship spin mode though, is great. Its compromise.
"The man behind the mask is a Maverik Letting off buck-ten shots for the hat trick."
From the song Overtime (Maverik Lacrosse Commercial), by D.One.
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Juliette DuBois
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:08:00 -
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I think CCP needs extra revenue but is probably going in too hamfisted and is getting clobbered by subscribers. Inflation is a ***** and long running game like EVE will get into this problem zone sooner or later. Costs go up every year and game makers are scared of rising sub prices.
Microtransaction and mandotary subscription models are damn hard to fit together successfully because micro works best when there are huge crowds of people, many of whom buy few little things here and there. Subscription model brings in stable income but limits game growth greatly.
So to make MT more appealing in sub game you probably would have to make them more powerful in comparison to normal F2P game so that smaller crowd of buyers would be "encouraged" to spend some of that RL currency into real power boosts ingame.
MT model also probably is more profitable but some people do not have stomach for it. I`m not one of them but it has to be done in right way. I`m definitely not going to pay your high sub price and on top of that spend tons of money for whatever items and services you decide to introduce. Given how alt-tastic this game is, to get most out of it you need at least one alt account.
Not to mention how glacial character progression is, which is also big limiter on your growth. Hence the temptation to sell skill point pills and such...
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: Cyaxares II
it's "escalation of commitment" not addiction
It is addiction, the addiction for more, which happens to be the worst kind. It is better to be a crack addict than addicted to greed and money.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: "CCP Soundwave" IÆll give you an example of something I think provides value to our customer, which IÆd like to sell. Right now, you can store 50 personal fittings on our servers. ThatÆs more than enough for the average EVE player, but for a subset of our users, itÆs too small a number. Why not be able to add more storage space for a small amount of money? YouÆd even be able to upgrade it multiple times if you needed and permanently add this benefit to your character, making it even more valuable. And you know what? If you donÆt like paying for this, you can always buy a PLEX off the market, and never have to get your credit card out. I think thatÆs pretty goddamn cool, and IÆm not entirely sure why that makes me ****** to some EVE players.
Maybe you could just charge us in Aurum, RL cash moneys or Plex every time we log on? I'm sure that would work. --------------------- Countdown to sub running out: 9 days. |
DeadDuck
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:09:00 -
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The 1MÇ question is...
CCP is all this decided yet or not ? Can you please tell us in advance if all the whining in here is worth it, and actually try to do something about all the Player base concerns or your going forward anyway ?
Please answer the question so I can decide if I keep paying the subscriptions or not.
TY
Strength and Honour |
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Aganola
Amarr Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:10:00 -
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Edited by: Aganola on 24/06/2011 09:12:25
Originally by: Laine Todako
Originally by: Bunnyy Lebowski
I have included an image of a very quick paint storyboard to help visualize Make Everyone Happy
Take it or leave it, thats my idea on the topic.
^^ THIS
Great Idea.
seconded! awesome!
By the way: I am sorry if what I am going to say has been said somewhere before, but:
Dear CCP, eat **** and die... seriously!? Is this the way you perceive us, as a golden goose? No, hell no!
I have 3 accounts active but I have already been toying with the idea of leaving the game entirely. Some of the changes were good, the new GUI, and -burn me- even WIS is quite good.
But: incarna has been on and off for 4 years now, and this is all that you can come up with? A lousy 50 square meters of virtual space and a balcony? Jesus!
And what's next? Next patch we'll gonna have a bathroom? Come on!
And this micro-transactional sh*t is just the worst of all! I've been there and I've done that in NavyField too... but I'm not gonna do it again! As soon as you include non-vanity items for sale this way, I'm outta here! Buying PLEX for real money (via converting code) is enough IMHO, deal with it, or don't be surprised if your precious game will be degraded into industrial waste...
Sad thing is: this game could really be NEW EDEN... pitty
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Amber Villaneous
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kez Aumer
Originally by: Amber Villaneous I would like a formal apology from every asshat in these forums that flamed me over the last few years when I told you this was coming.
Hello, I'm from the PR department of flaming asshats. We want you to know that we're very sorry, and we should have been sorry earlier.
Please keep in mind that I'm just a spokes-asshat, and can only serve as a mouthpiece. I'll try to get some answers for you tomorrow or something.
Apology accepted, you have not lied to me before so I have no reason to believe you are feeding me bv11$h1t now.
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Elondris Singh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: DeadDuck The 1MÇ question is...
CCP is all this decided yet or not ? Can you please tell us in advance if all the whining in here is worth it, and actually try to do something about all the Player base concerns or your going forward anyway ?
Please answer the question so I can decide if I keep paying the subscriptions or not.
TY
Manifest has said that the Aurum cycle is here to stay. I hope it is deeply reconsidered, however. ____ "There was a time in the evolution of all things that work, when it didn't" Thoughts on Incarna |
Dawne Xi
Minmatar 3D Salvage and Acquisitions
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:11:00 -
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Originally by: Alexis Sachs Hooray and about damned time.
And I knew Friday was some sort of firewall on the time frame front...
Look, you said it, you realize we're full up with many an unhappy camper.
I will say you have the order of things a bit messed up. I'd say the NEX prices while insanely laughable are far from the number one concern. I think the number one concern is years of "Incarna will be optional" became "pay us to alpha test WoD." Because that's how I see this. I've never cared about WiS - I know of SL and quite frankly they have you clocked in the buy things for your space barbie market. I didn't care though, since I'd been told as long as I've been here (late 07) that I wouldn't have to do Incarna. Well, sure, we can turn it off - for now. What happened to optional? Because while it may be optional at this juncture, it sure doesn't seem like it will be forever. That's my number one gripe and if this were to change back to optional for all time, then I'd move on and be a happy camper again.
So, my ranking of anger goes something like this:
1a. Optional or not? (Or, "give me ship spinning or give me death" - you can keep your damned monocles!)
1b. Is that newsletter legit? Cause if so - you all have some explaining to do...
2. Performance - why are 4 walls and 1 avatar killing some folks' machines?
3. Holy broken skills/ships/bonuses batman!
4. NEX = trolololol
This and the various Akita T posts about most of this.
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Altima Gen
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:11:00 -
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this expansion is a waste of time. cq is set to off, and i fly commando. no pants.
either contract with us to never sell game advantage stuff, or sell whatever you want but buy my isk back from me at a fixed rate to euro. i want to make real money from the gullible as well!!!! |
Sur Jamkar
Z3R0 RETURN MINING INC. Rura-Penthe
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:11:00 -
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4 less subscriptions CCP as of today. The ball is in your court to have me re-activate them.
I'm sad that after 5 and a half years of enjoying this game - you've chosen to ignore your player base. To ignore some of your own employees as well I bet.
This stinks horribly of SOE's decision to create the infamous SWG:NGE. It's a pity history isn't learned from more often.
But maybe sometimes lessons are learned better through a little tough love and as a parent - I have to let my toddler learn on her own that she is making a bad mistake by touching a hot surface after I told her not to. So must it be with CCP.
To fix it though: We want Hellmar. We want Soundwave. We want video. We want sincerity and serious promises to undo all of this and not return back to it. But I warn you - even after that... no promises you'll see many return.
And where the **** is the CSM??!? Where is our elected council??? I bet CSM5 knew about this but couldn't speak more than they did because of the NDA you hit em with.
This was very poorly played CCP.
___________ Sur Jamkar Exclusive Fan Podcast for Eve Online and Dust514 players. Visit http://podlogs.com/Overwatch514 to listen to Overwatch-514. |
Sahvi Morvaalis
R U D E
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:11:00 -
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Edited by: Sahvi Morvaalis on 24/06/2011 09:11:33
Originally by: Elondris Singh
Originally by: DeadDuck The 1MÇ question is...
CCP is all this decided yet or not ? Can you please tell us in advance if all the whining in here is worth it, and actually try to do something about all the Player base concerns or your going forward anyway ?
Please answer the question so I can decide if I keep paying the subscriptions or not.
TY
Manifest has said that the Aurum cycle is here to stay. I hope it is deeply reconsidered, however.
Yes, but wasn't it he who stated last year that it would never exist in the first place?
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Elondris Singh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:13:00 -
[2388]
Originally by: Sahvi Morvaalis Edited by: Sahvi Morvaalis on 24/06/2011 09:11:33
Originally by: Elondris Singh
Originally by: DeadDuck The 1MÇ question is...
CCP is all this decided yet or not ? Can you please tell us in advance if all the whining in here is worth it, and actually try to do something about all the Player base concerns or your going forward anyway ?
Please answer the question so I can decide if I keep paying the subscriptions or not.
TY
Manifest has said that the Aurum cycle is here to stay. I hope it is deeply reconsidered, however.
Yes, but wasn't it he who stated last year that it would never exist in the first place?
I THINK that was soundwave, not manifest - but I could be wrong. I don't feel like going back over the threadnaught. Nonetheless CCP as an entity said this. ____ "There was a time in the evolution of all things that work, when it didn't" Thoughts on Incarna |
Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:13:00 -
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Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 24/06/2011 09:14:02
Originally by: Sur Jamkar
This was very poorly played CCP.
lol he said "planned" and "CCP" in the same sentence :-)
edit: doh played. time to play some Bad Company.
His name was John Turbefield! Truth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc Best brief on the details. FREE HELICITY |
DeadDuck
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:13:00 -
[2390]
Originally by: Elondris Singh
Originally by: DeadDuck The 1MÇ question is...
CCP is all this decided yet or not ? Can you please tell us in advance if all the whining in here is worth it, and actually try to do something about all the Player base concerns or your going forward anyway ?
Please answer the question so I can decide if I keep paying the subscriptions or not.
TY
Manifest has said that the Aurum cycle is here to stay. I hope it is deeply reconsidered, however.
I don't give a f**ck about vanity items, I'm more worried about the Power advantages they mentioned.
Strength and Honour |
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Tez Saurus
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:13:00 -
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Wow you guys ****ed up on this one. Sad.
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Sahvi Morvaalis
R U D E
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:13:00 -
[2392]
Originally by: Elondris Singh
Originally by: Sahvi Morvaalis Edited by: Sahvi Morvaalis on 24/06/2011 09:11:33
Originally by: Elondris Singh
Originally by: DeadDuck The 1MÇ question is...
CCP is all this decided yet or not ? Can you please tell us in advance if all the whining in here is worth it, and actually try to do something about all the Player base concerns or your going forward anyway ?
Please answer the question so I can decide if I keep paying the subscriptions or not.
TY
Manifest has said that the Aurum cycle is here to stay. I hope it is deeply reconsidered, however.
Yes, but wasn't it he who stated last year that it would never exist in the first place?
I THINK that was soundwave, not manifest - but I could be wrong. I don't feel like going back over the threadnaught. Nonetheless CCP as an entity said this.
You could be right, I'm not checking back over it all to look either. :P
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Alexis Sachs
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ranka Mei Actually, I can agree to most of what you said: they're fair nuances. So, in the interest of this thread -- which I deem to be the need to call CCP on their outrageous MT plans -- I will just leave the 'heated' Incarna discussion (pun intended) for another place.
Fair play and I appreciate the reply. While I've never been too keen about WiS/ambulation/Incarna/CQ/what-have-you, I am not by default against it. I'm a big fan (and I seemed to think I saw you voice support for making it truly optional) of having it be something we can do/not do/kinda do at our discretion. I have it off now after having tested it on SISI and TQ as I don't feel it offers me much. When more comes out, I in fact will give it a look.
I agree the Fearless leak warrants a real reply from CCP. I also think the idea of returning Incarna to being something "forever optional" is important. Hell, those two things get addressed (assuming outrage convinces CCP to make Incarna truly optional and we get the word they super promise not to sell actual gaming advantage through MT) and I'll return to being a happy camper.
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Isis Soryu
Caldari Universitas Interimo Research
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:14:00 -
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Edited by: Isis Soryu on 24/06/2011 09:14:00
Originally by: Sahvi Morvaalis Edited by: Sahvi Morvaalis on 24/06/2011 09:11:33
Originally by: Elondris Singh
Originally by: DeadDuck The 1MÇ question is...
CCP is all this decided yet or not ? Can you please tell us in advance if all the whining in here is worth it, and actually try to do something about all the Player base concerns or your going forward anyway ?
Please answer the question so I can decide if I keep paying the subscriptions or not.
TY
Manifest has said that the Aurum cycle is here to stay. I hope it is deeply reconsidered, however.
Yes, but wasn't it he who stated last year that it would never exist in the first place?
it was CCP Shadow see sig
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Patches Donnarblizen
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:14:00 -
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CCP, you should have something like a roadmap, which shows ie. what kind of items you want to sell in future and what will be with our precious ship hangar. Just tell us the truth here so I can hit the unsub button...
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Kez Aumer
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:14:00 -
[2396]
Edited by: Kez Aumer on 24/06/2011 09:15:59
Originally by: Amber Villaneous
Originally by: Kez Aumer
Originally by: Amber Villaneous I would like a formal apology from every asshat in these forums that flamed me over the last few years when I told you this was coming.
Hello, I'm from the PR department of flaming asshats. We want you to know that we're very sorry, and we should have been sorry earlier.
Please keep in mind that I'm just a spokes-asshat, and can only serve as a mouthpiece. I'll try to get some answers for you tomorrow or something.
Apology accepted, you have not lied to me before so I have no reason to believe you are feeding me bv11$h1t now.
I'm glad. Now, I'm going to try to get some answers for you from my bosses - as I gather, your main complaint is that your face looks funny, and your second complaints is that you are a stinkypants. Is this correct?
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Amber Villaneous
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Sur Jamkar 4 less subscriptions CCP as of today. The ball is in your court to have me re-activate them.
I'm sad that after 5 and a half years of enjoying this game - you've chosen to ignore your player base. To ignore some of your own employees as well I bet.
This stinks horribly of SOE's decision to create the infamous SWG:NGE. It's a pity history isn't learned from more often.
But maybe sometimes lessons are learned better through a little tough love and as a parent - I have to let my toddler learn on her own that she is making a bad mistake by touching a hot surface after I told her not to. So must it be with CCP.
To fix it though: We want Hellmar. We want Soundwave. We want video. We want sincerity and serious promises to undo all of this and not return back to it. But I warn you - even after that... no promises you'll see many return.
And where the **** is the CSM??!? Where is our elected council??? I bet CSM5 knew about this but couldn't speak more than they did because of the NDA you hit em with.
This was very poorly played CCP.
We don't want Soundwave! He needs to be tranferred over to HVO (Homosexual Vampires Online) now!
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Ballgoof
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:14:00 -
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Quote:
Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?
This still needs to be addressed.
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:15:00 -
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Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 24/06/2011 09:16:03
Originally by: Patches Donnarblizen CCP, you should have something like a roadmap, which shows ie. what kind of items you want to sell in future and what will be with our precious ship hangar. Just tell us the truth here so I can hit the unsub button...
Simple. All the stuff they removed from the game plus all the stuff they promised to one day add.
edit: watch the video in my sig, sums up the details of exactly what they're selling. Basically code they've already deployed being re-deployed for pay.
His name was John Turbefield! Truth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc Best brief on the details. FREE HELICITY |
Aldap
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:15:00 -
[2400]
Edited by: Aldap on 24/06/2011 09:16:04
Originally by: Dave Hourai Thanks for showing me the way out, CCP.
+1, or should I say -1 For I already canceled my sub. I used that very same door.
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