Originally by: CCP Navigator

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Guys and girls,

The forum rules are quite explicit and our job, on the Community team, is to enforce those rules. Rule number nine states:

'Private communication between the Game Masters, Eve Team members, moderators and administrators of the forum and the forum users is not to be made public on these forums or by any other venue. You are not permitted to publicize any private correspondence (including petitions) received from any of the aforementioned.'

The rules are clear, posting any private communication from any member of CCP is not permitted on ths forums.

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Originally by: Black Dranzer

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Originally by: CCP Navigator

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Guys and girls,

The forum rules are quite explicit and our job, on the Community team, is to enforce those rules. Rule number nine states:

'Private communication between the Game Masters, Eve Team members, moderators and administrators of the forum and the forum users is not to be made public on these forums or by any other venue. You are not permitted to publicize any private correspondence (including petitions) received from any of the aforementioned.'

The rules are clear, posting any private communication from any member of CCP is not permitted on ths forums.

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Originally by: Addrake

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This failscade is pretty depressing.

Luckily there's a lightshow in Jita to make me feel happy. We have the best community ever.

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Originally by: G 0 D

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Originally by: Black Dranzer

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Originally by: CCP Navigator

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Guys and girls,

The forum rules are quite explicit and our job, on the Community team, is to enforce those rules. Rule number nine states:

'Private communication between the Game Masters, Eve Team members, moderators and administrators of the forum and the forum users is not to be made public on these forums or by any other venue. You are not permitted to publicize any private correspondence (including petitions) received from any of the aforementioned.'

The rules are clear, posting any private communication from any member of CCP is not permitted on ths forums.

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Originally by: Kismo

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Originally by: Black Dranzer

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In retrospect I have some sympathy for him. He's probably going to get chewed out for this, and he's only doing his job. Ugh.

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Originally by: DrDan21

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CCP done goofed

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Originally by: Iamien

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Edited by: Iamien on 25/06/2011 03:59:18

Originally by: Black Dranzer

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In retrospect I have some sympathy for him. He's probably going to get chewed out for this, and he's only doing his job. Ugh.

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Noone chews out a CEO. He is CEO and owner of most of the company.

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Originally by: Iamien

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Edited by: Iamien on 25/06/2011 03:59:18

Originally by: Black Dranzer

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In retrospect I have some sympathy for him. He's probably going to get chewed out for this, and he's only doing his job. Ugh.

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Noone chews out a CEO. He is CEO and owner of most of the company.

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Originally by: Black Dranzer

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Edited by: Black Dranzer on 25/06/2011 03:50:50
God damn it Navigator, you should've just kept your head down, but you didn't, did you?

Originally by: CCP Navigator

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Guys and girls,

The forum rules are quite explicit and our job, on the Community team, is to enforce those rules. Rule number nine states:

'Private communication between the Game Masters, Eve Team members, moderators and administrators of the forum and the forum users is not to be made public on these forums or by any other venue. You are not permitted to publicize any private correspondence (including petitions) received from any of the aforementioned.'

The rules are clear, posting any private communication from any member of CCP is not permitted on ths forums.

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Originally by: Khamelean

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You do realise that rule number 9 would also apply if the communication in question was fake?

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Originally by: CCP Navigator

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Guys and girls,

The forum rules are quite explicit and our job, on the Community team, is to enforce those rules. Rule number nine states:

'Private communication between the Game Masters, Eve Team members, moderators and administrators of the forum and the forum users is not to be made public on these forums or by any other venue. You are not permitted to publicize any private correspondence (including petitions) received from any of the aforementioned.'

The rules are clear, posting any private communication from any member of CCP is not permitted on ths forums.

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Originally by: Steph Wing

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Edited by: Steph Wing on 25/06/2011 04:29:52
Guys.

Look at the wording of Navi's post.

He's throwing us a bone the only way he can; by citing that rule and giving us de facto confirmation of the email's legitimacy.

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Originally by: Steph Wing

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Edited by: Steph Wing on 25/06/2011 04:29:52
Guys.

Look at the wording of Navi's post.

He's throwing us a bone the only way he can; by citing that rule and giving us de facto confirmation of the email's legitimacy.

I for one thank him for doing his job so dilligently.

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Originally by: Black Dranzer

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Edited by: Black Dranzer on 25/06/2011 03:50:50
God damn it Navigator, you should've just kept your head down, but you didn't, did you?

Originally by: CCP Navigator

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Guys and girls,

The forum rules are quite explicit and our job, on the Community team, is to enforce those rules. Rule number nine states:

'Private communication between the Game Masters, Eve Team members, moderators and administrators of the forum and the forum users is not to be made public on these forums or by any other venue. You are not permitted to publicize any private correspondence (including petitions) received from any of the aforementioned.'

The rules are clear, posting any private communication from any member of CCP is not permitted on ths forums.

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Originally by: Steph Wing

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Edited by: Steph Wing on 25/06/2011 05:04:24
If anything has become apparent these last 24 hours, it's that CCP's ground-level employees, the GMs, the moderators, the devs, are not the problem. They can see the writing on the wall, they're just unable to do anything about it because upper management won't listen.

Navi has just, as I said, thrown us a bone the only way he can.

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Originally by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai

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Obviously someone at CCP is not happy with the official stance and is leaking info.

THX to whoever corresponds and for the rest, have my signature:

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Originally by: larry hotter bigpants

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Originally by: Iamien

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Edited by: Iamien on 25/06/2011 03:59:18

Originally by: Black Dranzer

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In retrospect I have some sympathy for him. He's probably going to get chewed out for this, and he's only doing his job. Ugh.

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Noone chews out a CEO. He is CEO and owner of most of the company.

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Not entirely true. CCP is a publicly funded corporation. Ultimitly he answers to his shareholders.

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Originally by: CCP Fallout

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This is not the booze you are looking for.

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Originally by: Takumi Shinano

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This sounds frighteningly plausible. I've run into something similar in the past, where Corporate culture is local and there's a big disconnect between the local admin/management/support staff and the hired in 'games' talent.

Because said company's don't have much competition within their own country (and changing country every other year is tiresome in the extreme) salaries are lower than industry average and what little pressure there is to develop functional processes tends to be driven by whatever management techniques are fashionable outside the industry within the host country.

Obviously the US office has to compete with the US industry and doesn't suffer from this.

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Originally by: evenews24

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@CCP_Manifest u seem to be the go-to guy for responses so I ask, is that mail sent by H to CCP global true? the 1 with the 52 sold monocles?

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Originally by: CCP Manifest

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CCP_Manifest @CCP_Manifest CCP_Manifest Believe it or not, it's true.

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We went out with a decisive strategy on pricing and we will stay the course and not flip flop around or knee jerk react to the predictable. That is not saying nothing will change, on the contrary, in fact we know that success in this space is through learning and adapting to _what is actually happening_ and new knowledge gained in addition to what we knew before and expected

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_what is actually happening_

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Originally by: John McCreedy

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CCP Manifest already indicated such several hours ago on Twitter.

Originally by: evenews24

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@CCP_Manifest u seem to be the go-to guy for responses so I ask, is that mail sent by H to CCP global true? the 1 with the 52 sold monocles?

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Originally by: CCP Manifest

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CCP_Manifest @CCP_Manifest CCP_Manifest Believe it or not, it's true.

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Originally by: Hilmar's Email

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<snip>( On the subject of RMT MT's )We have communicated our intention here internally in very wide circles through the Virtual Economy Summit presentation at the GSM, our Fearless newsletter, sprint reviews, email lists and multiple other channels. This should not come as a surprise to anyone.</snip>

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Originally by: CCPZulu's Dev Blog

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The opinions and views expressed in Fearless are just that; opinions and views. They are not CCP policy nor are they a reliable source of CCP views as a company.

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Originally by: squiddie

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Clarification

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Originally by: Jamie Banks

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So, I might just leave this here:

ù Email Startsù-

Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:16:54 -0400
To: [email protected]
Subject: ccp ceo global msg sent today
From: [email protected]
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=öUTF-8″
Message-Id: <[email protected]>

sent by hilmar to ccp global list-

(strt)

We live in interesting times; in fact CCP is the kind of company that if things get repetitive we instinctively crank it up a notch. That, we certainly have done this week. First of we have Incarna, an amazing technological and artistic achievement. A vision from years ago realized to a point that no one could have imaged but a few months ago. It rolls out without a hitch, is in some cases faster than what we had before, this is the pinnacle of professional achievement. For all the noise in the channel we should all stand proud, years from now this is what people will remember.

But we have done more, not only have we redefined the production quality one can apply to virtual worlds with the beautiful Incarna but we have also defined what it really means to make virtual reality more meaningful than real life when it comes to launching our new virtual goods currency, Aurum.

Naturally, we have caught the attention of the world. Only a few weeks ago we revealed more information about DUST 514 and now we have done it again by committing to our core purpose as a company by redefining assumptions. After 40 hours we have already sold 52 monocles, generating more revenue than any of the other items in the store.

This we have done after months of research by a group of highly competent professionals, soliciting input and perspective from thought leaders and experts in and around our industry. We have communicated our intention here internally in very wide circles through the Virtual Economy Summit presentation at the GSM, our Fearless newsletter, sprint reviews, email lists and multiple other channels. This should not come as a surprise to anyone.

Currently we are seeing _very predictable feedback_ on what we are doing. Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say. Innovation takes time to set in and the predictable reaction is always to resist change.

We went out with a decisive strategy on pricing and we will stay the course and not flip flop around or knee jerk react to the predictable. That is not saying nothing will change, on the contrary, in fact we know that success in this space is through learning and adapting to _what is actually happening_ and new knowledge gained in addition to what we knew before and expected.

All that said, I couldnGÇÖt be prouder of what we have accomplished as a company, changing the world is hard and we are doing it as so many times before! Stay the course, we have done this many times before.

(end)

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Originally by: Seminole Sun

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To be fair, this was not a private message between any of the people mentioned and a forum user. This is an (alleged) internal email from the company that has been leaked. I think you're stretching the rules of YOUR forum if you start swinging the banhammer on these people and you're doing a disservice with the deletions. If it's fake, tell us its fake. If its real then I think the only rational explanation is for Hilmar to have some SERIOUS frank discussions with the community.

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