Originally by: Ophelia Ursus

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Edited by: Ophelia Ursus on 27/06/2011 00:13:39
BF: Heroes is free to play and its creators were aiming for an ARPU of $0.50

Eve is a subscription-based game and as such, has a minimum monthly revenue per user of $15

It does not necessarily follow that microtransactions that are accepted in BF: Heroes will likewise be accepted in Eve.

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Originally by: Mr Epeen

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CCP needs to/will do:

-Ignore the forum posters as they represent approx 2% of the user base.
-Introduce cash for performance type merchandise
-make it more difficult to acquire ISK except as RMT (plex).

What will happen:

-No one will quit despite the rage.
-Cash purchases will become common and an accepted part of the EVE experience.
-The people raging the loudest will become some of the best customers.
-No one will be too wound up that the ship they just destroyed/got blown up by was fitted with uber weapons paid for with cash.

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Originally by: Meridian Siri

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Edited by: Meridian Siri on 26/06/2011 22:44:09
Wow. With industry propaganda like this out there, I can see why CCP would be tempted to go down the P2W model. Average revenue per user? Really? This is not the EvE that I have come to know and enjoy.

Sadly, flavor of the month business strategies are sort of cash-and-run strategies. If CCP goes down this road, don't expect EvE to last long. They will strip-mine the users and move on.

I guess we will see.

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Originally by: Gerdan BloodELF

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I actually found this interesting. It works in a free to play environment quite well, but eve is not free to play and I think eve being a different style of game that it does/is having a negative impact. More so than what EA experienced.

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Originally by: catinboots

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What ccp should do is stop all subscriptions , shut down the server and put all their resources into the development of WOD

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Originally by: Markarian Aurelius

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Edited by: Markarian Aurelius on 27/06/2011 06:23:31
First off, Eve is not exactly a FTP game. Sure, with enough grinding you can buy your PLEX with ISK, but someone had to buy that PLEX in order for someone to buy it, so CCP has really not lost any revenue from those who buy PLEX with ISK. Instead of spending more time in marketing and improvement of the game to draw more gamers to Eve, they've decided the easiest way was to try squeezing the utters, Us, a little harder.

What CCP probably thinks is that we all are that "small userbase subset" and that a majority of the players don't feel the way we do. Hence Hilmar's comment to "watch what we do and not what we say". I'm sure the upper management thinks the larger subset of players would love to spend money on items that would give them an advantage in the game. If this is the case, they are probably also putting all of their bets on that since we (the smaller, more vocal subset) are so passionate and have invested so much into this game that we *couldn't* or *wouldn't* just up and leave in droves.

The fact is that if we are indeed a small subset of the playerbase, we need to recruit more people into our camps. Either we convince them to leave the game or we enact policies inside our corps and alliances that prohibit advantage giving items from being owned by those who bear our insignias. Afterwards, we ruthlessly target any individual, corp, or alliance that allows their players to use such items. Alienate and isolate those who wish to sully the purity of the game.

I know some, especially those new to Eve, will be very tempted or see no problem paying cash for "i-Win" weapons, ships, or ammo. They will likely think that since so many other MMO's have it, so why is it such a horrible thing. The veterans will have to teach them that such shenanigans won't be tolerated in the sandbox we helped build, regardless of what CCP wants it to be like. After getting primaried constantly, blacklisted by every "anti-gold anything" Corp and Alliance, I believe most will eventually bend and play the game the way it was meant to be played. Equal grounds for advancement regardless of income. The want for approval is often more powerful than the want for competitive advantage, especially within a social driven and very political game like Eve. I think this will work.

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Originally by: CCP Shadow

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The trolls have been vanquished.

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Originally by: Mantreh

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Edited by: Mantreh on 27/06/2011 07:37:49

Originally by: Yarrrrrhh

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EDIT: Some sad but additional truth (source);

Quote:

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It's going to be so fun watching all of you slowly distance yourself from this as time goes on and you realize you were raging about nothing.

Six months from now when golden ammo hasn't appeared and you all come crawling back to re-sub as your subscriptions actually expire, will you have the balls to admit you were acting like a hysterical woman or will you pretend you never raged?

I'm betting on the latter.

But hey even if you all end up being right and non-vanity items are introduced, what's the big deal? There are a already a thousand ways to gain an advantage over another player in this game and a number of them already revolve around how much RL money you're willing to spend.

I mean the height of irony is watching some ****wit talk about how he's cancelling his $150/month of accounts because at some point in the future another player might gain an advantage in-game by paying RL cash.

And how many of you don't have a second account you are paying for? You're already buying an in-game advantage that everyone who doesn't have that disposable cash can never meet.

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I love it ... so true it makes me smile. I especially love how the poster points out so well the irony of people cancelling multiple accounts because "no-one should be able to P2W".

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Originally by: CCP Shadow

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The trolls have been vanquished.

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Originally by: Jax Mones

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This one time, at band camp, my monocle did damage :o

There will be no golden bullets, and ships appearing out of nowhere
You paint your old ship for Aur
This whole protest is probly the worlds largest troll

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