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Harrison Deep
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.15 06:49:00 -
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I'm in the tutorial and need to deliver 999 x Veldspar to my agent. It's going REALLY slow mining. I've made a bunch of trips to the station in my small ship, (the first one) and only have about 80 now.
What am I missing? Am I being prompted to get a barge for this mission?
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
1749
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Posted - 2012.09.15 06:57:00 -
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i have wired you the 15,000 (fifteen thousand) isk necessary to just buy the veldspar at the nearest station and just haul it into the mission's hangar
may you never learn how to mine |
Harrison Deep
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.15 07:01:00 -
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Thank you!
So mining probably isn't the best way to make a living? |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
900
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Posted - 2012.09.15 07:01:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:may you never learn how to mine A thousand times this. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Mara Rinn
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
1826
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Posted - 2012.09.15 07:11:00 -
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Harrison Deep wrote:I'm in the tutorial and need to deliver 999 x Veldspar to my agent. It's going REALLY slow mining. I've made a bunch of trips to the station in my small ship, (the first one) and only have about 80 now.
I'm a bit worried that you've missed something here. 999 units of Veldspar is less than 100m3 of cargo space. Each cycle of an unbonused Miner I will retrieve 40m3 of ore, which is 400 units of Veldspar. That mission requires at most two trips to the asteroid.
Although you should avoid mining at all costs, you really do need to make sure you read the mission description and pay attention to numbers.
In addition, it's important to understand that the mining missions require you to mine ore from a specific location. It's no use mining Veldspar from system belts all day: you need to mine the ore from the Veldspar rock in the mission site. The site is guarded by rogue drones or a pirate which need to be blown up. Until you do that, the mission can not be completed.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Theangryhobo
Hobo Industries Inc Orbital Bombardmant
98
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Posted - 2012.09.15 07:28:00 -
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Please don't ever pick up mining. There's too many of us as is, how will I ever make isk with all this competition.... Hobo Industries Inc is recruiting |
Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2012.09.15 09:30:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Harrison Deep wrote:I'm in the tutorial and need to deliver 999 x Veldspar to my agent. It's going REALLY slow mining. I've made a bunch of trips to the station in my small ship, (the first one) and only have about 80 now. I'm a bit worried that you've missed something here. 999 units of Veldspar is less than 100m3 of cargo space. Each cycle of an unbonused Miner I will retrieve 40m3 of ore, which is 400 units of Veldspar. That mission requires at most two trips to the asteroid. ^^^This.
In fact, Mara is being over-cautious. Your Velator's cargohold is 135m3, so it will hold 1350 units of Veldspar and the mission needs only one trip unless your hold is already filled with other stuff. |
Elena Thiesant
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction -affliction-
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Posted - 2012.09.15 10:31:00 -
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Also make sure you're mining from the location the agent gave you, not a regular asteroid belt. The agent gives you a bookmark to a site with a single veldspar asteroid. |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
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Posted - 2012.09.15 17:55:00 -
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Indeed some tutorial missions require you to mine the amount in the correct place; only after the correct amount has been mined there will your journal update. Other tutorial missions will just ask you to deliver a certain amount of rock to the agent (Omber or Pyrowhatever it was, I believe), where you are free (and wise) to acquire it from the market.
The same works, I think, with the tutorial missions where you have to deliver some stuff built from a blueprint.
Oh yes, and avoid mining....
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Harrison Deep wrote:So mining probably isn't the best way to make a living?
No, the money-¦s bad and you are at the very bottom of the Eve-foodchain.
Edit 2: Also, miners are known to snap the necks of babies. Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20. |
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
511
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Posted - 2012.09.15 18:00:00 -
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Quote:So mining probably isn't the best way to make a living?
It's really not bad. It's just that the act of mining is considered pretty boring by most of the community, so it's a "bad way to make a living" in the sense that we'd rather cut our dicks off with a rusty spoon than do it for any length of time. |
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
1767
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Posted - 2012.09.15 18:32:00 -
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Harrison Deep wrote:Thank you!
So mining probably isn't the best way to make a living? Mining has an allure to new players because it's relatively easy to skill into, has guaranteed payout and isn't that hard. It is like the burger flipping job at McDonalds. You don't want to get too deeply into a burger flipping career |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2208
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Posted - 2012.09.15 19:29:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Harrison Deep wrote:Thank you!
So mining probably isn't the best way to make a living? Mining has an allure to new players because it's relatively easy to skill into, has guaranteed payout and isn't that hard. On the other hand it has an average/below average paygrade, isn't challenging and has no real options of hitting that big gold motherlode. The challenges facing a 7 year old mining player are the same he was dealing with 2 weeks after subscribing. It is like the burger flipping job at McDonalds. You don't want to get too deeply into a burger flipping career
Chribba did fine "A genius throws a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that he's going to die choking in a maze of smoke and flame. A hero drinks a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that if he does a split in midair, he can hit twice as many zombies per kick. Drunk hero wins again, wusses." ~Cracked.com |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
563
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Posted - 2012.09.17 03:38:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Harrison Deep wrote:Thank you!
So mining probably isn't the best way to make a living? Mining has an allure to new players because it's relatively easy to skill into, has guaranteed payout and isn't that hard. On the other hand it has an average/below average paygrade, isn't challenging and has no real options of hitting that big gold motherlode. The challenges facing a 7 year old mining player are the same he was dealing with 2 weeks after subscribing. It is like the burger flipping job at McDonalds. You don't want to get too deeply into a burger flipping career Chribba did fine
Chribba probably makes far more isk on his reputation as a neutral 3rd party than he does mining. |
Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
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Posted - 2012.09.17 07:23:00 -
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Theangryhobo wrote:how will I ever make isk
You won't, because you are a miner :)
If you have any further thoughts on something i've posted, or want to ask an unrelated question feel free to contact me by EvE Mail or by private conversation if i'm online. BUDDY TRIALS AVAILABLE - 21days plus big ISK bonus and starting assistance |
Sin Pew
Dakini Rising The Kali Cartel
107
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Posted - 2012.09.17 07:50:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Harrison Deep wrote:Thank you!
So mining probably isn't the best way to make a living? Mining has an allure to new players because it's relatively easy to skill into, has guaranteed payout and isn't that hard. On the other hand it has an average/below average paygrade, isn't challenging and has no real options of hitting that big gold motherlode. The challenges facing a 7 year old mining player are the same he was dealing with 2 weeks after subscribing. It is like the burger flipping job at McDonalds. You don't want to get too deeply into a burger flipping career Chribba did fine Teh powah of Veldspar!! "haiku are easy, But sometimes they don't make sense, Refrigerator." |
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
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Posted - 2012.09.17 11:34:00 -
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Harrison Deep wrote:I'm in the tutorial and need to deliver 999 x Veldspar to my agent. It's going REALLY slow mining. I've made a bunch of trips to the station in my small ship, (the first one) and only have about 80 now.
What am I missing? Am I being prompted to get a barge for this mission?
A T2 Miner sucks in 60 m3 ore per minute. 60 m3 of Veldspar is the same as 600 units of Veldspar, so you should be able to suck in the needed ore in 2.5 minute even using a single T1 Miner (400 Veldspar/minute).
So if you only have 80 Veldspar after a long time of roid-sucking, you must be doing something very wrong.
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Lyric Lahnder
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
108
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Posted - 2012.09.17 13:46:00 -
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Harrison Deep wrote:Thank you!
So mining probably isn't the best way to make a living?
Harrison my alt can do mining.
He only started doing it after he had made his fortunes doing several other activities and only after he had maxed all of his mining skills.
Mission running may get repetitive but out of all the activities it grows your standings while you grow your standings with skills.
If you want to mine winter is coming along with this little puppy:
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=72890
If you want to focus on mining. Go to your belt with your mining frigate(you dont have one if your amar) Start mining ore jet a can, fill the can with ore, then come back and retrieve it in a ship with a much larger cargo hold. Dont forget to Bookmark the can so you can warp right to it pick it up and leave. Noir. and Noir Academy are recruiting apply at www.noirmercs.comI Noir Academy: 60 days old must be able to fly at least one tech II frigate. I Noir. Recruits: 4:1 k/d ratio and can fly tech II cruisers. |
Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2012.09.17 17:57:00 -
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Nerath Naaris wrote:
Edit 2: Also, miners are known to snap the necks of babies.
Confirmed
As much of a pain as it is, and no matter how much some people hate it; it's still necessary to have miners in the game (lest we want to just shoot each other with noobships all day) |
J'Poll
Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn
416
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Posted - 2012.09.17 19:33:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:Nerath Naaris wrote:
Edit 2: Also, miners are known to snap the necks of babies.
Confirmed As much of a pain as it is, and no matter how much some people hate it; it's still necessary to have miners in the game (lest we want to just shoot each other with noobships all day)
^
That, people always complain about miners...yet they forget it's those same miners that mine the minerals that build their ships/ammo/modules they use to blow other people up with. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction |
Shinichi Chiaki
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.19 00:27:00 -
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Harrison Deep wrote:Thank you!
So mining probably isn't the best way to make a living?
Mining is very time-consuming. It's like working for K-Mart as a checkout chick for $9.00 an hour 3 hours a week.
I have sat at my computer for 8-10 hours a day just mining in a noob ship Navitas for one month and 18 days.
I have accumulated in total 260mill ISK. That amounts to small change in Eve.
So it is a very boring, dull, mind-numbing, stupid, foolish and inferior way to earn ISK. |
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Harper Thane
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.25 20:38:00 -
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So if it's a no to mining what's the best way to earn ISK because I'm struggling like hell :( |
Nex Parietis
Templar Centurion Corps Templar Command
1
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Posted - 2012.09.25 20:45:00 -
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Find a corp, run missions with them? Steal other people's ore? Grab a frigate and fly into nullsec and ask for a job?
If we weren't all paranoid, I'd think that last one could work. But we are paranoid.
But the big one is and always will be to find a corporation to join. You will go insane in the npc corporation. |
Rezig Huruta
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
50
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Posted - 2012.09.25 20:51:00 -
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Shinichi Chiaki wrote:Harrison Deep wrote:Thank you!
So mining probably isn't the best way to make a living? Mining is very time-consuming. It's like working for K-Mart as a checkout chick for $9.00 an hour 3 hours a week. I have sat at my computer for 8-10 hours a day just mining in a noob ship Navitas for one month and 18 days. I have accumulated in total 260mill ISK. That amounts to small change in Eve. So it is a very boring, dull, mind-numbing, stupid, foolish and inferior way to earn ISK.
Why would you sit at your computer mining for 8 hours in a noob ship? |
Sin Pew
Dakini Rising The Kali Cartel
123
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Posted - 2012.09.26 07:40:00 -
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Rezig Huruta wrote:Shinichi Chiaki wrote:I have sat at my computer for 8-10 hours a day just mining in a noob ship Navitas for one month and 18 days. Why would you sit at your computer mining for 8 hours in a noob ship? Reading can help. Thanks Petrus "haiku are easy, But sometimes they don't make sense, Refrigerator." |
Blake Gates Heleneto
Android Gang Stealth Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.09.27 11:19:00 -
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Shinichi Chiaki wrote:Harrison Deep wrote:Thank you!
So mining probably isn't the best way to make a living? Mining is very time-consuming. It's like working for K-Mart as a checkout chick for $9.00 an hour 3 hours a week. I have sat at my computer for 8-10 hours a day just mining in a noob ship Navitas for one month and 18 days. I have accumulated in total 260mill ISK. That amounts to small change in Eve. So it is a very boring, dull, mind-numbing, stupid, foolish and inferior way to earn ISK.
Unless of course you're running multiple Hulks/Retrievers with Orca support. 260mil ISK is all in a days work 'round these here parts...
Can't argue with the boring, dull and mind-numbing part though... |
Skeln Thargensen
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.27 22:52:00 -
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get navitas and fit 2 x miner 1 and cargo hold expanders.
also ignore forums. they are mostly too jaded to help you. you're in a great NPC corp ask in game corp chat for better help. Yeah well does your corp get free bacon? |
Unit XS365BT
Unit Commune Celestial Imperative
66
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:10:00 -
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Quote:So mining probably isn't the best way to make a living?
Not sure... Hang on... Let's ask Chribba.
on a more serious note, Mining can net you a lot of isk, but, in the end to make anything reasonable from it, you'll need to train up for exhumers and strip miners. even then, the best mining ISK is in either Null sec space or Wormholes. Which are dangerous places for a miner to be.
As others have said, Those who mine are also one of the most common targets for suicide ganks.
Whichever way you decide to play, just remember to have fun. The reason most people are against mining as a proffession is that, at the moment, mining is somewhat tedious. Hopefully when they implement planetary ring mining things will improve a little. |
Unit XS365BT
Unit Commune Celestial Imperative
66
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:17:00 -
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Shinichi Chiaki wrote:Harrison Deep wrote:Thank you!
So mining probably isn't the best way to make a living? Mining is very time-consuming. It's like working for K-Mart as a checkout chick for $9.00 an hour 3 hours a week. I have sat at my computer for 8-10 hours a day just mining in a noob ship Navitas for one month and 18 days. I have accumulated in total 260mill ISK. That amounts to small change in Eve. So it is a very boring, dull, mind-numbing, stupid, foolish and inferior way to earn ISK.
Hang on a sec...
You are a month an a half old as a character, and you're still in a navitas. There is something wrong with this picture.
if you were looking to do mining as a proffession, which, after a month and a half of straight mining, it would appear you were, you should have been in a barge at least. surely. ok.. not an exhumer, that's a litte way down the line, but certainly not a navitas. IIRC my first miner spent some time mining in a cruiser before i got into a barge, but even that would have upped your mining output by a long way.
something tells me that you have to simply be trolling. |
Zeravla Shardani
Valkyrie's Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2012.09.29 21:42:00 -
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Harrison Deep wrote:Thank you!
So mining probably isn't the best way to make a living?
Oh please.........I have been playing only a week now and I did a few missions but got bored so I started minning. I have two accounts and in the first five days (count them-5 days) I have bought 2 retrievers (one for each account) plus all the fittings. Thats 20 mil isk each for the ships plus another 10 mil each for fittings total = over 60 million isk in 5 days. That doesnt count all the isk I spent in skill books and other crap. So yeah you can make money in minning. That is if you have an IQ north of 30 and you stop listening to arogant tards on this forum who have no interest other than trying to make themselves look smart at your expense! Giving you 15k like that might have eemed great to you but it was nothing more than smacking you in the face with an insult. Like here noob have some chump change ... now go away and let the adults speak. |
Alo Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.09.30 12:04:00 -
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Zeravla Shardani wrote:Harrison Deep wrote:Thank you!
So mining probably isn't the best way to make a living? Oh please.........I have been playing only a week now and I did a few missions but got bored so I started minning. I have two accounts and in the first five days (count them-5 days) I have bought 2 retrievers (one for each account) plus all the fittings. Thats 20 mil isk each for the ships plus another 10 mil each for fittings total = over 60 million isk in 5 days. That doesnt count all the isk I spent in skill books and other crap. So yeah you can make money in minning. That is if you have an IQ north of 30 and you stop listening to arogant tards on this forum who have no interest other than trying to make themselves look smart at your expense! Giving you 15k like that might have eemed great to you but it was nothing more than smacking you in the face with an insult. Like here noob have some chump change ... now go away and let the adults speak.
Wow. Everyone seemed pretty helpful to me. I think we know we can mine if we want, despite what others say. |
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