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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
116
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Posted - 2012.09.15 14:06:00 -
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Kell Tarhun wrote:Considering all you got to offer is personal judgments - my answer for you is simple: No money no honey.
Who were you planning to borrow the 7b from? My guess would be from people who will form personal judgements of your character from the content of this thread (given that you offer them nothing else). So far there hasn't been a flood of people willing to either invest in your offering or provide a positive assesment of it, dispite your stated links to a sizeable 0.0 community.
Maybe you should go back to those 5%-15% offerings you looked at when you did your research and compare the content of those threads with this one. If you considered those threads valid research for interest rates then you should also consider them valid research for other elements that brought them success.
I don't really care if you are looking to raise money for a legitimate trading enterprise or if you are just trying to scam the isk to put towards a JF or supercapital. But given that, as you admit, no evidence of your secret business can be found without your cooperation the sensible path is to assume the worst.
I can live without the 700m in interest a lot easier that I can live without the 7b in principal. I expect most sensible investors will feel the same way. |
Kell Tarhun
Macabre Votum
Against ALL Authorities
21
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Posted - 2012.09.15 14:11:00 -
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Makro SSRI wrote:Imo, 7b for a first time uncollateralized loan is a bit much to ask for, considering this amounts to more than one year of plex.
Surely, a smaller amount would still be of use to your operation and more likely to be filled, if you would additionally be more forthcoming with potential investors.
Smaller amount is just not worth my effort. I already got used to using big numbers in market. I am looking for investor i can respect and they respect me with their isk offers.
Some of my sell orders and big numbers already looks nice
http://www.sendspace.pl/file/b1afdd6b38990eb742ad0c5/selling |
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
349
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Posted - 2012.09.15 14:12:00 -
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Kell Tarhun wrote:Pusswah wrote:I might consider loaning you 20b, but you would of course need to satisfy the usual requirements for ISRAD membership to prove where ur loyalties lie.
pm T'Renn in game for info~~~ "T'Renn is either offline or otherwise unreachable."
https://www.pandemic-legion.com/forums/showthread.php?43197-T-Renn
T'Renn has no honoure, therefore all image links in that thread (and on kugu) are broken.
I'm a NPC corp alt, any argument I make is invalid. |
Kell Tarhun
Macabre Votum
Against ALL Authorities
21
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Posted - 2012.09.15 15:05:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:[ you can do the research on your own: https://www.pandemic-legion.com/forums/showthread.php?43197-T-Renn(all image links in that thread and in the ISRAD thread on kugu are broken  ). Actually applying to join ISRAD would obviously ruin your business plan (seed -A- markets), so here is a better proposal: Contact Grogoth about an A&C project and submit images of the result to a PL member for safekeeping. You get the loan. If you don't repay it in time your images will be released for great justice.
Guys you missing recruitment topic with market topic. It is market discussions |
Stigman Zuwadza
Repercussus
RAZOR Alliance
52
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Posted - 2012.09.15 16:35:00 -
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What we have here...
Fly safe. o7
CCP: Cloak Hunters - CSM6: Cautiously positive - Dec 2011 Summit - Minutes (pg. 22).
Cloaking Technicalities Explained - CSM7 Town Hall Meeting - May 2012 |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations
Paper Tiger Coalition
358
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Posted - 2012.09.15 16:47:00 -
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Has been some time since we had a good fun thread , this one is starting to have potential though. |
Chiyeung Bonaparte
Vanguard Investments.
15
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Posted - 2012.09.15 17:27:00 -
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Vanguard Investments. Classifies this loan as a high risk loan.
A 10 percent return on investment is pretty high for a first time loan, especially for a 7 billion collateralize loan.
Unless the OP presents more concrete information on their business plan or some form of collateral, I say that
it would be high risk to invest in this.
However, since I like risk and with high risk sometimes come high reward, I am willing to invest half a billion just to be safe if other investors invest as well. |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations
Paper Tiger Coalition
358
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Posted - 2012.09.15 19:32:00 -
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Chiyeung Bonaparte wrote:
However, since I like risk and with high risk sometimes come high reward, I am willing to invest half a billion just to be safe if other investors invest as well.
There is a difference between high risk and blind risk.
Thank you for contributing to this threads potential , flakeys investments approves as the Md amusement is finally getting a lift off.GOD we needed one . |
Chiyeung Bonaparte
Vanguard Investments.
15
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Posted - 2012.09.16 06:12:00 -
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blind risk, high risk, ill throw 500 mill at this guy and see what happens |
Elli M0o
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.09.16 15:31:00 -
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Hahaha.. This thread is starting to have great potential.
Applying to PL and claiming to have access to -A- space? Hmm, nice touch.
I'd like to see you justify that.
Or did you think scamming 7 bil out of some poor bloke will get you accepted there? |
Barakach
R-ISK
Shadow Operations.
77
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Posted - 2012.09.17 14:09:00 -
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While I don't like how Kell Tarhun is communicating, I think he has gotten the message and some posts are just getting redundant and repeating "this won't work".
Give him the benefit of the doubt, be professionally critical, say what you think, and move on. We don't need to keep spamming his thread nay-saying his approach. |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations
Paper Tiger Coalition
359
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Posted - 2012.09.17 15:13:00 -
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Barakach wrote:
Give him the benefit of the doubt, be professionally critical, say what you think, and move on. We don't need to keep spamming his thread nay-saying his approach.
Has been given the benefit of the doubt
Has gotten professional critique
Has not done **** with the above and as such get's the treatment everyone else get's when not taking in advice and pushing it off as personal insults/grieff instead of what it actully is.
Kell Tarhun wrote:There is so many griefers and spammers. And to be honest i haven't add anything new to my first post while conversation with you. I do not find my psychological arguments that much important. I run business and i am more about numbers.
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As shown here it comes down to : ''Shut up and gtfo of my thread anyone who asks for info is a griefer/spammer.I will not adjust my OP and i'd rather not talk about this at all just send me the isk.Basically the worst attitude possible when you ask total stranger to hand you over 7B.Also his reasoning why he wouldn't look for a loan inside his own corp is VERRY weak.
And you are wondering why people are getting to see the amusement/irony factor in this ? |
Elli M0o
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.09.17 16:29:00 -
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My personal entertainment is in the fact that he said he'l have access to all of -A- space but has applied to join PL. Guess he wanted to use his old alliance name to scam some bills before he left. |
Kell Tarhun
Macabre Votum
Against ALL Authorities
23
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Posted - 2012.09.17 19:52:00 -
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Elli M0o wrote:My personal entertainment is in the fact that he said he'l have access to all of -A- space but has applied to join PL. Guess he wanted to use his old alliance name to scam some bills before he left.
Thats your private point of view - I am not interested in recruitment offers. This is market topic, my offer is all about ISK.
However to give you more personal entertainment i can tell you that while being in -A- space i still sell lot of stuff to TEST and GOONS which are my Alliance enemy. Isk got no borders :P
Still will try to answer questions about my isk investment offer.
Not logical questions i just leave unanswered.
I am not interested in personal statements and opinions as well.
If i see that behind question is will to invest i try to answer in a way not to harm my current or future isk investments.
Pretty hard to keep self calm against spammers and griefers but if u got positive attitude will do my best to answer questions concerned with my topic.
Hope possible investors will not run away with scream as while private conversations i stay calm. I am open to mail msg's or private conversations.
Currently found 1 possible investor. In private convo he suggested that i should consider audit.
I checked corporation that offers such and it is connected with 0.0 alliance. Considering audit is based on giving my market information API. For me it is more than dangerous to give someone i do not know informations about my way of getting isk.
Besides i am not interested to pay for audit. I find it one of next ways of making isk of me giving me practicly nothing in return. Thing is potential clients of audits are investors like me. I see no point giving auditors cut from my own way of getting isk.
I prefer to answer questions of individual investors. The more private, the better :)
Currently i find that many harass my post.
I still estimate week and a half to find more interested in investing guys. I am patient. I understand investors security reasons however i got my private standards to keep my own person safe. |
Kari Juptris
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
9
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Posted - 2012.09.17 20:44:00 -
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I'll donate .01 isk to your cause. |
Kell Tarhun
Macabre Votum
Against ALL Authorities
23
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Posted - 2012.09.17 20:51:00 -
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Kari Juptris wrote:I'll donate .01 isk to your cause.
Kell Tarhun wrote:Min Investment: 250M |
Kell Tarhun
Macabre Votum
Against ALL Authorities
23
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Posted - 2012.09.29 06:41:00 -
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So any investors up here?
I already coolected 3.7 bil so 3.3 left to make me happy.
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Ji Sama
Metropolis Mining and Manufacturing Company
3M Unlimited
13
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Posted - 2012.09.29 07:06:00 -
[48] - Quote
Logic, what does it mean? |
flakeys
Angels of Anarchy
Interstellar Confederation
382
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Posted - 2012.09.29 08:57:00 -
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Kell Tarhun wrote:For me it is more than dangerous to give someone i do not know informations about my way of getting isk.
Besides i am not interested to pay for audit.
Yeah you should not trust someone you don't know with any info but hey we should just chip in 7 B to someone WE don't know right?
Your logic is limitless.
The surest way to remain poor is to be an honest man ...-á |
Kell Tarhun
Macabre Votum
Against ALL Authorities
23
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Posted - 2012.09.29 09:22:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Kell Tarhun wrote:For me it is more than dangerous to give someone i do not know informations about my way of getting isk.
Besides i am not interested to pay for audit. Yeah you should not trust someone you don't know with any info but hey we should just chip in 7 B to someone WE don't know right? Your logic is limitless.
check other posts here - i see even less information given and less detailed and isk is flowing.
In my opinion i gave more than enaugh info of my market operation details.
I am working in my trading environment and i do not need to know my investors.
I offer cut of profits in return of investment |
Kell Tarhun
Macabre Votum
Against ALL Authorities
23
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Posted - 2012.09.29 09:29:00 -
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flakeys wrote:
...hey we should just chip in 7 B to someone WE don't know right?
Your logic is limitless.
Well if u not interested i understand. However pretty sure you shouldn't respond in name of WHOLE EVE online players.
Already found investors for 3.7 bil.
Waiting for those interested to invest 3.3 bil. Details, suggested in private convo warm welcome |
flakeys
Angels of Anarchy
Interstellar Confederation
382
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Posted - 2012.09.29 10:26:00 -
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Kell Tarhun wrote:flakeys wrote:
...hey we should just chip in 7 B to someone WE don't know right?
Your logic is limitless.
Well if u not interested i understand. However pretty sure you shouldn't respond in name of WHOLE EVE online players. Already found investors for 3.7 bil. Waiting for those interested to invest 3.3 bil. Details, suggested in private convo warm welcome
WE are free here to adress loan requests how WE want .
The surest way to remain poor is to be an honest man ...-á |
Apoctasy
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.09.29 11:25:00 -
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7 billion and no collateral? Good lubk buddy
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Kell Tarhun
Macabre Votum
Against ALL Authorities
23
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Posted - 2012.09.29 11:54:00 -
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flakeys wrote:
WE are free here to adress loan requests how WE want .
I won't make any bussiness with you. Find next post looser |
Kell Tarhun
Macabre Votum
Against ALL Authorities
23
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Posted - 2012.09.29 11:55:00 -
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Apoctasy wrote:7 billion and no collateral? Good lubk buddy
Well 3.3 left...and 2 more days. Propably will gather all ammount i planned to get. |
Kell Tarhun
Macabre Votum
Against ALL Authorities
23
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Posted - 2012.10.01 09:10:00 -
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Dear MD investors
Sum is gathered. Investors asked for being annoymous. I accept it.
Thank you for griefing and doubts.
Chiyeung Bonaparte haven't recived isk from you so i take it as you not interested.
Everyone else see you in my next post. |
flakeys
Angels of Anarchy
Interstellar Confederation
382
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Posted - 2012.10.01 12:48:00 -
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Kell Tarhun wrote:
Investors asked for being annoymous
Thank you for griefing and doubts.
You sure showed us ....
The surest way to remain poor is to be an honest man ...-á |
Koronakesh
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
73
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Posted - 2012.10.01 13:01:00 -
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It strikes me that any guy with a bit of time on his hands can vomit up a thread asking for money and claim it's been entirely filled by anonymous investors, so what's the point of trying to grind MD cred like that when you aren't getting any actual people to use as references? Do you perhaps just want a one-shot scam or trying to save face by claiming "anonymous investors" when nobody's bought in?
SASPR Amir al-Mu'minin and Eve Online Hold'Em Management |
Elli M0o
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.10.04 17:03:00 -
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Ah, so kicked out of -a- at last. http://www.evenews24.com/2012/10/04/leak-some-macabre-votum-drama/
For threatening his own corp directors that he'll complain about their botting accounts.
I though op was being particularly dense on the forums but now it seems he is like this in-game too.
I pity those 'anonymous' investors who gave him the isk. |
Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
605
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Posted - 2012.10.05 16:14:00 -
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Joe Public wrote:It is well known that -A- are honourless cowards.
Can we expect you to run with the money, like you run from fights?
I am 99.9% certain that 100% of the threads here bogus.
Most of the time the top 1% of eve that actually DO invest are to ashamed to admit they got scammed.
There is just no real way to make sure that somebody pays up even with third parties.
Xenuria CSM 8 |
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