EVE Search - Explain how you would fix EvE and bring in the $$$ úúú ÇÇÇ

Check My IP Information

All Channels

EVE General Discussion

Explain how you would fix EvE and bring in the $$$ úúú ÇÇÇ

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 2 3 :: [one page]

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
CLONE 9 Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2011.06.27 09:05:00 - [1] First things first - we wouldn't be complaining if the core game wasn't worth defending. None of us can really say that EvE Online is anything short of amazing - and unique. The real issue we're looking at here is one of finance and revenue. CCP have obviously made big investments recently in terms of infrastructure to support this unique and groundbreaking unsharded universe and also development of WoD and Dust. I don't think for one second that CCP really think selling monocles enhances the gameplay experience for 95% of players. Surely it's their way of adding a new much needed revenue stream. The next step then is 'gold plated bullets' - which CCP have advised will NOT be part of the game. My guess is that CCP would have naturally explored this until they met resistance - i.e. squeeze until the community screamed - but the community have been astute and already shouted long and hard - hence the 'no golden bullet' statement. I may be being a bit insincere here but we can only speculate at the moment. So - assuming that we want this game to work, what suggestions do you have to increase revenue? I don't think an increase in subscription is the best way to go. Rather than hit the entire player base, it needs to be something that allows people with spare cash to burn to purchase without impacting the balance of the game. Personally - I think vanity items (monocles / ship skins / fancy pants) is only part of the story but I want to hear your 'impact free' money making ideas to solve the underlying issue. MONEY !!!! 9.
Murev Vorchilde Caldari End Game.	Posted - 2011.06.27 09:09:00 - [2] Edited by: Murev Vorchilde on 27/06/2011 09:09:16 use eve money to fund eve instead of sending it to 2 other games
Lemmy Kravitz Minmatar Rebirth.	Posted - 2011.06.27 09:12:00 - [3] Edited by: Lemmy Kravitz on 27/06/2011 09:16:22 keep vanity items as is, make moar stuff to play barbie's doll house if you want to. Never ever make an item you can buy that will actually effect gameplay with real cash ie, special ships, ammo, boosters, implants, etc.. etc.. Make industrials able to make vanity items. Build your playerbase by continuing to refine core gameplay. Make sure you can pew in stations just like you can pew in space. More players = moar dumb ****s that will buy vanity items. Especially when you have walking and pewing in station, people will want to look a bit better when putting a hole in a war target. ------------------------------------------------- "Vae Victis" -Brennus
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.27 09:16:00 - [4] 1) Apology from Hilmar. 2) Return ship hangar for immersion, those with multiple clients, and performance issues. 3) other posts above Ambulation... because spaceships don't have wallets.
Hatchet Q Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2011.06.27 09:17:00 - [5] - Drop aurum. CCP should exchange it for ISK. - Make current vanity items cost isk. - Upgrade eve-online store (RL items!) - Make items more expensive if necessary. - Purchasing RL items will give you special codes, that lets you claim vanity items. For example - purchasing Apocalypse model, will get you a non-tradable paint kit for your ingame apocalypse. Purchasing RL t-shirt will give you code to claim such shirt for your avatar, etc... - Eve trading game cards? Where did those go? - Purchasing a deck gives you a small chance of getting special (extra-rare) vanity items. Pirate eye-patch for your avatar? Yarr!
Jax Mones Barr Heavy Industries STR8NGE BREW	Posted - 2011.06.27 09:17:00 - [6] Keep the items and their prices, add more items, ships(consumes a regular ship, as explained in AT9) only vanity items (as intended) stay away from golden bullets (as discussed, not intended)
Myfanwy Heimdal Caldari Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc	Posted - 2011.06.27 09:18:00 - [7] Is there a revenue issus with EVE itself? Or is there a revenue issue within CPP at all? All I have heard is the wish to maximise revenue from we cash cows rather than a statement that CCP is having a financial deficit. I can understand CCP wishing to create two more games. If they are having trouble funding both then mothball one until the other is launched. Or raise bonds based on those games. As far as I see it there is no need for CCP to raise income unless there is something drastically amiss somewhere and then the two other projects should be culled. Of course, perhaps CCP may have got to that classic situation of too many chiefs and too few indians. Then all they can do is to wipe out layers of useless middle management at a stroke.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.27 09:19:00 - [8] Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 27/06/2011 09:19:57 Impossible really. Subscription business in a niche market with limits to it's expansion, does not mix with the type of people who are invested. They would be MAD!! if there wasn't "growth" at the end of the year. Even when they had 100% of the market captured. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc FINALLY SOME TRUTH!!
Tolaskar Hardrada Men of Providence	Posted - 2011.06.27 09:20:00 - [9] The problem with CCP is that they are using EVE Online to fund not only EVE but Dust and WOD as well. Mathematically and financially this can not be done. This has already been proven, GameCrazy being used to support Movie Gallery and Hollywood Video is a very good example (for those who live in American and know what I am talking about). CCP is very much a small private company and they are idiotically trying to pretend they are EA or Activision. At this point the upper management have shown they are pretty ****ing stupid.
Seako Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io	Posted - 2011.06.27 09:23:00 - [10] EvE today is powered by less than 5 devs that mainly work on the Incarna shop part. We got a new maller, all the other ships need overhaul too. But there aint even a single ship in pipeline. Everybody is working on WoD and Dust.

Canuk EroSennin Gallente Public Security Section Nine	Posted - 2011.06.27 09:29:00 - [11] Well I would suggest the following 1. Sell Vanity Items for decent prices 2. Be able to use AUR to bribe concord/faction officials to raise your faction/concord standing to a Maximum of 0.00 3. Rebalance PLEX/GTC/TIMECODE options to involve a 365 day code, 6 month code, and a 2 month code. (2+6 month only available for Timecode Bazaar) 4. Allow certain authorized people to sell GTC's locally for cash in their region. (To expand the game to those who do not have access to a credit card) 5. The Majority of eve income should go towards the betterment of EVE online. 6. Create 5 SUPERGATES in Jita, Hek, Dodixie, Rens and Amarr which you pay a certain reasonable amount of AUR for a monthly pass to use. Thats all I can think of at the moment.
Valei Khurelem	Posted - 2011.06.27 09:45:00 - [12] If I were in charge at CCP . I would immediately remove the item store and put these items out for free on the customization screen so that people can use them when they like since they already paid for them through subscriptions and PLEX . Look through the logs of the gamemasters and support staff and fire people who have been unnecessarily rude and patronising to customers . Introduce a hotfix that sets the Captain's Quarters off by default and allows people to turn it on if they want it, that includes any extra space station interiors later on . Start a thread that allows people to post the balance complaints officially and report any bugs or problems with the latest expansion, I would also kick the QA staff into gear and have them give me reports on what to fix so we can at least get things in working order . I would apologise to the playerbase and admit it is a bad idea and paying such ridiculous sums of money for a pair of virtual pants or monocles is not an option for those who are already paying for the game itself . To prevent anything more stupid from happening I would get rid of CSM ( yeah you heard me ) and actually make it compulsory to log on the forums or the game itself for at least one hour a week and talk to players or play the game and find out if there is anything wrong rather than use CSM as an extra PR group to make it seem as if players are being listened to The reason CCP and EVE has become such a disaster is not just because of the expansion or the store, it is because of the complete and blatant abandonment of not only work ethic but also business ethic. If you can't understand that you are delivering a game, a work of art, to the player base and not just a mass-produced product designed to make money. Then you not only shouldn't be in the games industry and should stay the hell away from it, but you should also never purchase a single game again, because it shows you simply haven't got any interest in the way games work and how the customers experience them.
Alejan Gerakh Minmatar Clan Hyena	Posted - 2011.06.27 09:54:00 - [13] Originally by: Murev Vorchilde use eve money to fund eve instead of sending it to 2 other games And where do you propose they get the money for the two other games? I'm all for EVE funds for EVE, but I imagine they're trying to show they're not a one-trick pony, too. ---- "Sounds like a bad case of pikal envy, if you ask me." Chief Engineering Officer - got the tools to fix your problems. The new Maelstrom: Say hello to my little Dread.
daint666 Minmatar WEPRA CORP White Noise.	Posted - 2011.06.27 09:55:00 - [14] IF i win the euromillions next week I promise you i will buy out CCP and turn EvE into the game the players want it to be xD
Tolaskar Hardrada Men of Providence	Posted - 2011.06.27 09:56:00 - [15] Originally by: Alejan Gerakh Originally by: Murev Vorchilde use eve money to fund eve instead of sending it to 2 other games And where do you propose they get the money for the two other games? I'm all for EVE funds for EVE, but I imagine they're trying to show they're not a one-trick pony, too. Like any other developer; outside investment, cash reserve, or cash from profit. Currently operating capital from EVE is going into Dust and WoD. Which makes sense for Dust but not for WoD.
Death Merchant United Mining And Distribution	Posted - 2011.06.27 09:59:00 - [16] Originally by: daint666 IF i win the euromillions next week I promise you i will buy out CCP and turn EvE into the game the players want it to be xD I would buy my own tropical island to drink and have sex with beautiful women all day, but I guess your idea is good too....
Tolaskar Hardrada Men of Providence	Posted - 2011.06.27 10:00:00 - [17] Originally by: Death Merchant Originally by: daint666 IF i win the euromillions next week I promise you i will buy out CCP and turn EvE into the game the players want it to be xD I would buy my own tropical island to drink and have sex with beautiful women all day, but I guess your idea is good too.... You're assuming he doesn't already have his own tropical island to drink and have sex with beautiful women all day, maybe he's playing the euromillions for fun and likewise for Eve ;)
Klandi Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.06.27 10:02:00 - [18] Posting in a thread of dreamers...
Joe Forum Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.27 10:02:00 - [19] Very simple. Offer a Premium Subscription - for exactly $1 more per month. Have that $1 automatically buy CCP stock each month (for the subscriber). There are many small investment vehicles which make it easy to do pooled investments and 'fractional' share purchase. CCP market value has an upwards pressure, plus paying custoemrs become shareholders and are more able to control 'their' game.
Sellendis Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.27 10:05:00 - [20] Originally by: Alejan Gerakh Originally by: Murev Vorchilde use eve money to fund eve instead of sending it to 2 other games And where do you propose they get the money for the two other games? I'm all for EVE funds for EVE, but I imagine they're trying to show they're not a one-trick pony, too. How about they find investors for those other 2 games? You know, someone to pay for development and they get a part of game profits when it goes up. Not take funding from eve and split it among 2 games in development and 1 game that brings money. Its obvious to everyone that eve is suffering by this method, they dont give a damn about bug reports, balancing issues, they didnt fix old bugs (and some of them are years old). We get a small room with rusty walls, slower UI than the hangar view, big system requirements increase (for a useless room), visual turret upgrade and 1 remodeled ship. If they fixed bugs and improved things already mentioned, they would make a better expansion than this. Free Helicity Boson

Alejan Gerakh Minmatar Clan Hyena	Posted - 2011.06.27 10:06:00 - [21] Originally by: Tolaskar Hardrada Originally by: Alejan Gerakh Originally by: Murev Vorchilde use eve money to fund eve instead of sending it to 2 other games And where do you propose they get the money for the two other games? I'm all for EVE funds for EVE, but I imagine they're trying to show they're not a one-trick pony, too. Like any other developer; outside investment, cash reserve, or cash from profit. Currently operating capital from EVE is going into Dust and WoD. Which makes sense for Dust but not for WoD. Ah, yes. In fact, White Wolf should probably help foot the bill (and may in fact do so?) for WoD... I'm actually not that aware of how this all really is setup, financially. ---- "Sounds like a bad case of pikal envy, if you ask me." Chief Engineering Officer - got the tools to fix your problems. The new Maelstrom: Say hello to my little Dread.
Alejan Gerakh Minmatar Clan Hyena	Posted - 2011.06.27 10:09:00 - [22] Edited by: Alejan Gerakh on 27/06/2011 10:12:58 Edited by: Alejan Gerakh on 27/06/2011 10:11:15 Edited by: Alejan Gerakh on 27/06/2011 10:10:59 Originally by: Sellendis Originally by: Alejan Gerakh Originally by: Murev Vorchilde use eve money to fund eve instead of sending it to 2 other games And where do you propose they get the money for the two other games? I'm all for EVE funds for EVE, but I imagine they're trying to show they're not a one-trick pony, too. How about they find investors for those other 2 games? You know, someone to pay for development and they get a part of game profits when it goes up. Not take funding from eve and split it among 2 games in development and 1 game that brings money. Its obvious to everyone that eve is suffering by this method, they dont give a damn about bug reports, balancing issues, they didnt fix old bugs (and some of them are years old). We get a small room with rusty walls, slower UI than the hangar view, big system requirements increase (for a useless room), visual turret upgrade and 1 remodeled ship. If they fixed bugs and improved things already mentioned, they would make a better expansion than this. Well, they DID adjust things with missions (EWar fixes, I think I recall reading in the patch notes? Also covered by Big Dumb Object's devBlog, which admittedly had a poorly timed release) and probes, as well as at least one minor buff to Jump Bridges which seemed to go ignored. EDIT: Oh, right, and the new Agent Finder, and the new Corporation advert/search functionality. And, yes, all the Carbon underlying framework stuff they do, which supposedly allows them to more easily improve EVE later, and even pass those improvements on to those other two projects you keep talking about. ---- "Sounds like a bad case of pikal envy, if you ask me." Chief Engineering Officer - got the tools to fix your problems. The new Maelstrom: Say hello to my little Dread.
Yldrad The Dandy KillerS	Posted - 2011.06.27 10:12:00 - [23] More localization: japanese, french, spanish, ... EvE become more accessible without dumbing the game.
Judy BigShot Big Shot - For the Bounty Hunters	Posted - 2011.06.27 10:12:00 - [24] CCP has financal problems. Why? DUST and WoD and all those 500+ staff cost too much. So, sell those 2 insecure investements, focus back on EVE and its paying customers. 300k * 10$ per month = 3m$ / month. Yeah, you should be able to pay your servers and around 150 people with that. 150 workers should be more than enough to keep EVE a very cool MMO in future. And yeah, for those who need it, bring in the custom pixels - but NO game changing ones.
Alejan Gerakh Minmatar Clan Hyena	Posted - 2011.06.27 10:15:00 - [25] Originally by: Yldrad More localization: japanese, french, spanish, ... EvE become more accessible without dumbing the game. And hopefully they can pay for the extra localization teams, as well as get highly qualified ones to keep the fluff and instructions intact. ---- "Sounds like a bad case of pikal envy, if you ask me." Chief Engineering Officer - got the tools to fix your problems. The new Maelstrom: Say hello to my little Dread.
crymyname	Posted - 2011.06.27 10:19:00 - [26] Originally by: Myfanwy Heimdal Is there a revenue issus with EVE itself? Or is there a revenue issue within CPP at all? All I have heard is the wish to maximise revenue from we cash cows rather than a statement that CCP is having a financial deficit. quote] ok this is near impossable if you take what they make a month just off the 1 eve server .. 320k subs x ú14=ú4800000 most if not all there equipment is now paid for .. and remember they have income off the server in china ... microsoft and sony are probably trying to screw them on a lisece for dust ..and we have to pay for it .. not good from our point ,but ccp see a bigger cash cow so if we do leave they have dust ... hence why you should unsub till things are made clear ..
Florestan Bronstein draketrain	Posted - 2011.06.27 10:23:00 - [27] Edited by: Florestan Bronstein on 27/06/2011 10:24:39 kill DUST kill WoD (try to sell White Wolf) 1 expansion per year maybe increase subscription cost target a stagnant 250k-350k subscribers accept that CCP will die together with EVE at some point.
Elrica bloodbane	Posted - 2011.06.27 10:33:00 - [28] Edited by: Elrica bloodbane on 27/06/2011 10:34:35 Turn the MT store into a real store. Paid for in plex or paypal,etc. With real items for sale, eve t-shirts eve mugs dust items t-shirts etc. Licence the IP out. Let people produce eve related items, and sell online ingame. Use the new money to develop dust etc. And fix eve.
Markus Jome	Posted - 2011.06.27 10:38:00 - [29] Step 1: keeping the income you already have. There is a 10k+ posts threatmonster in this forum which explains pretty exactly how to do this, so i won't waste time explaining the exact details here.
Patient 2428190 DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School	Posted - 2011.06.27 10:43:00 - [30] Removing the cash store and giving you stuff for free because you are extra special cuddly customers doesn't make CCP money. If you haven't noticed, the playerbase will rage at everything. See: Learning skills removed and skillpoints refunded and how did the customers respond? "WTF OMG RUINING THE GAME WATERING IT DOWN OMFG IMMA QUITTIN" ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala.

vasuul	Posted - 2011.06.27 10:44:00 - [31] Edited by: vasuul on 27/06/2011 10:45:37 There would be nothing wrong with raising subscription costs by 3 to 5 dollars a month If ccp would do the following 1. get micro-transactions out of the game they have no place in the sandbox and never will have 2. if you want to add vanity items either seed the bpo's on the market or put em as BPC's in the lp store 3. Give us some new missions and new real content not fluff some fluff is good but keep it with in reason 4. Apologize for being so rude in your dev blogs and not listening to your customers 5. And biggest of all DON'T LIE to us I think by now you have seen we can be a very unruly bunch when we feel we have Been betrayed I can link over 30 news articles that prove that We don't want to bring on the bad publicity, we love the sandbox of eve. I have been a loyal player since 2007 it doesn't need any other form of currency isk if fine. The game works there is No reason to dumb it down.Often I hear the new players talking about how long it takes to get this and that, and I laugh saying "yeah i had to walk up hill both ways in the ice storm.You new guys got it easy cause ccp put in an escalator. I had train things called learning skills grind missions for faction standings and to get to certain quality of agents, things y'all don't have to do any more. " I think about how far this game has evolved and up until this last patch and this talk of microtransactions i was always able to roll with the flow it was all good things granted some of the nerfs made you have to rethink your strategy but it was never a game breaker Lately I have seen a severe disconnect when it comes to the goals of ccp and its relationship with its player its been growing over the past few years we tell em No please dont do that and they do it anyway IE sanctums and havens ,loss of agent quality.... etc we have all seen it anyway I really believe this was the straw that broke the camels back ,and I'm sorry it came to an outright revolt to make em see the will of the people. So i am sorry if our protests inconvenience your trip to amarr or jita we fight because we believe eve is worth fighting for. It made the news and got ccp enough Bad press to realize there was a problem and hopefully they will try to fix it And for those of us like me who have unsubbed accounts waiting for an answer We hope ccp listens to what we are trying to say don't fill our sandbox with concrete P.S no you can not have my stuffs
Norian Lonark Gallente Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.27 10:45:00 - [32] Edited by: Norian Lonark on 27/06/2011 10:46:52 1. Listen to the community. The community and people who play eve and are dedicated have real passion for EVE and eves vision. Normally "whines" on here dont get that much support, I haven't seen the community united like this on a topic in 4 years of playing so something out of the ordinary is happening. 2. Dont do anything that will impact on the EVE marketplace and economy. One of the most unique things about EVE is the player driven economy thousands of players are showing concern that P2W will damage this. If the marketplace dies than EVE will be on a decline. 3. Expand Incarna and bring more vanity items to the shop with different price points. I have no problems with ship skins, tattoos, monocles things to pimp out your CQ anything infact that is vanity based. If there were some more reasonable price items I would probably buy a plex to convert to aurum to get some. 4. Dont force people to play Incarna. At the moment there is no gameplay for an existing player For a new player I am sure it is a great introduction. Give us the hanger view and an option to disembark. Make people want to disembark by introducing gameplay I am sure this will happen when further expansions.
Val'Dore Word Bearers of Chaos Word of Chaos Undivided	Posted - 2011.06.27 10:46:00 - [33] Honestly, what I would do is not free information. I get paid to consult. What little I do offer on these forums are just small things I would like to see happen ever rather than never. ~No matter what happens, somebody will find a way to take it too seriously.~ Tiericide
Mr Kidd	Posted - 2011.06.27 10:46:00 - [34] The question can't be answers as we know nothing of CCP finances. But one thing is certain, even if finances are sound at CCP, more profit is better than less profit. Therefore, the game is getting MT, in all forms.
handige harrie	Posted - 2011.06.27 10:54:00 - [35] Let CCP Create another board game to fund new games, just like they did with EVE.
vasuul	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:00:00 - [36] Originally by: Canuk EroSennin Well I would suggest the following 1. Sell Vanity Items for decent prices 2. Be able to use AUR to bribe concord/faction officials to raise your faction/concord standing to a Maximum of 0.00 3. Rebalance PLEX/GTC/TIMECODE options to involve a 365 day code, 6 month code, and a 2 month code. (2+6 month only available for Timecode Bazaar) 4. Allow certain authorized people to sell GTC's locally for cash in their region. (To expand the game to those who do not have access to a credit card) 5. The Majority of eve income should go towards the betterment of EVE online. 6. Create 5 SUPERGATES in Jita, Hek, Dodixie, Rens and Amarr which you pay a certain reasonable amount of AUR for a monthly pass to use. Thats all I can think of at the moment. in reply to #1 those items can be sold just as easy in the market or the lp store in reply to #2 Aur has no business in game if you want faction standing grind for it like everyone else If you dont want to go negative with concord don't be a pirate most pirates see a negative concord standing as a badge of honor in rely to #6 AUR and microtransactions has no business in game and we not need a nickle and dime sink like it for anything in this game as for the rest especially #4,#5 yeah good point
CLONE 9 Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:07:00 - [37] Let's get this straight - requiring additional revenue for growth is not the same as the company being in financial difficulty. I'm not implying the latter - but speculating the former. I don't think killing off WoD or Dust will do any good for the company. Let's be pragmatic, wasting investment (especially something that has been announced at E3 on the Sony stage) will only kill off confidence in the company. It's not unreasonable to expect them to be able to grow the company using the success of the first game. You want investors? You think they don't come with their own agenda? What made EvE great was probably the fact that Company X were not sitting in the background trying to make it a WOW clone. So here we are. Let's set some assumptions to clear the waters - because there is a lot of cross topic stuff seeping in here. Let's assume this thread has some 'nice' pre-requisits: 1 - Hangar view comes back in and CQ and everything associated is an extra option and it's optimised and runs smoothly 2 - Gold Bullets are out of the question and MTs are vanity only 3 - WoD and DUST are here to stay How do we make more money from here? Here's an idea - How about vanity at a corporate identity level rather than personal? Your corp gets its own basic office - but you want to pimp that out with fancy corporate stuff, agent booths (where corporate standings allow), military decorations displays, corporate personalised merchandise (Goonfleet hotpants and crop top) etc etc etc - I mean you could really go to town here - all these extra non-advantage things could be paid with by AUR. Rather than expect the individual to pay - allow corp members the ability to make micro-contributions towards corporate PLEX as a subscription top-up that could feed in to these features. Good or bad - it's an idea - you guys must have hundreds of constructive ideas that are better. Forget the other arguments that are raging on these forums. No need to duplicate. Instead.... SHOW ME THE MONEY !!!! 9.
CLONE 9 Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:17:00 - [38] Originally by: Elrica bloodbane Edited by: Elrica bloodbane on 27/06/2011 10:34:35 Turn the MT store into a real store. Paid for in plex or paypal,etc. With real items for sale, eve t-shirts eve mugs dust items t-shirts etc. Licence the IP out. Let people produce eve related items, and sell online ingame. Use the new money to develop dust etc. And fix eve. I love this idea - although you'd have to be careful about policing the whole thing. i.e. person A buys a T-Shirt from Shop X ... Person A disputes the quality / delivery of the item etc etc ... who sorts out the mess? Perhaps CCP are happy to manage this - it would be interesting to find out. 9.
Cedar Locus	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:20:00 - [39] dust is gonna fail i thinks
Obsidian Cobra	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:21:00 - [40] I would pay 1 PLEX each for the things below (anything more than that is Absurd) for 1: A new ship skin ( it has to be cool though ccp not look like most of the **** we have today) each skin costs 1plex 2: Permenantly put my Corps logo on all my ships 1plex per corp. 3: Old world war 2 fighters/bombers had cool stickers on them Half naked girls, monsters etc.. I would pay 1plex per design 4: Items for my Bar/CQ etc I would pay 1 plex for 10 items that I myself get to unlock... so I can pick what I want 5: Clothes I would pay 1 Plex to unlock 10 costumes. 6: I would pay 5 plex for personal corp logo..10 plex for alliance logo. My own design.. (it has to fit in EvE lore etc)

Little Simon	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:25:00 - [41] little simon would pay 1 plex to get his poetry broadcast in key stations after listening, players would thank little simon for the joy he brings
Aineko Macx	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:33:00 - [42] I'd rework the UI from the ground up, it is currently the single biggest entry and retention hurdle. Then I'd fix all long standing bugs and finish implementing all abandoned features, making everyone happy, encouraging people to do mouth to mouth propaganda for eve again. ________________________ CCP: Where fixing bugs is a luxury, not an obligation.
Tautut The Union Of The Snake	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:34:00 - [43] Edited by: Tautut on 27/06/2011 11:34:52 I like the idea of IP broadcasting in-game. let corporations buy a broadcast license from CCP and pay in AUR, and then broadcast that in-game within the CQ and Incarna environment. Radio stations etc. I would need support from CCP but it's not monocles or ponies and would really add to the community feel. The Union of the Snake [SNAKE]
Xylvain	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:46:00 - [44] Yes, the game definately has potential, but CCP have proven time and time again that they themselves are most oblivious to what makes their game worth playing. Work is required. So heres some hints, for starters: - Dismiss AUR, use ISK. - Seed BPO/Cs of items and/or have them be produced through PI. People already spend money on PLEX to turn into ISK, this will give more incentive to do so for people who think they need a monocle. Side-effect: you make a little more money, AND haven't alienated & aggravated your entire customer base within a day. Be reasonable about CCP internal funding, EvE makes the money, you can choose to use the entirety of profits to fund other projects (that the people who pay you largely don't even want) OR use the profits to fix EvE where it needs fixing, and divert whatever may be left over to new ideas and projects. Again, alienating & aggravating your ONLY customer base is not a good idea. Especially when interested in long-term applicability & goals. Stop looking into insane qet-rich-quick schemes. Things take time to settle and make an impact. IF EvE were actually fixed in areas people have been complaining about for YEARS, the customer base would naturally, over time increase into more paying accounts, and old ones would be more willing to use money as a subscriptipon tool rather than ISK (PLEX) because the things they can buy with ISK in game actually work and provide them with entertainment. Stop trying to force half baked ideas down peoples throats (dust...), focuse on quality. I'm sure people would rather a 1 year delayed dust that brings interesting content to both games and hence encourages people to pay for it while not eating up the entirety of EvE profits in its development and turning existing customers against CCP. Also, complaints have been issued over the same CCP employees mad schemes & useless ideas over and over again, what kind of a person would consistently employ AND give more and more power to the specific people everybody who buys his product hates? In conclusion: A QUALITY product can demand a price, and people would be willing to pay for it. Create a QUALITY product first - not by stuffing additional useless features into a dying engine but by listening to the needs of your customer base. Do this for 6 months and notice profits starting to roll in. You're a company with an actual product in the real world now, you're not an angry child stomping its feet, and neither are you some kind of thimblerigger. Demanding "MONEY!" to finance "NEW SHINIES!" doesn't cut it anymore.
CLONE 9 Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2011.06.27 13:47:00 - [45] Some good ideas but surely the community have more. More money making ideas .... more more MORE 9.
Skex Relbore Gallente Red Federation RvB - RED Federation	Posted - 2011.06.27 14:07:00 - [46] Originally by: Patient 2428190 Removing the cash store and giving you stuff for free because you are extra special cuddly customers doesn't make CCP money. If you haven't noticed, the playerbase will rage at everything. See: Learning skills removed and skillpoints refunded and how did the customers respond? "WTF OMG RUINING THE GAME WATERING IT DOWN OMFG IMMA QUITTIN" This is a subscription based game there is nothing free about it. CCP is already making far more ARPU than the games they are trying to emulate because it's a subscription based service. No one objecting to MT is saying that CCP should be doing things for free we're saying that "WE"RE ALREADY ****ING PAYING THEM" so trying to put a cash shop on top is simply being greedy. If they don't think they are making enough off each of us then they should raise the subscription prise. If they really want to make money though the best thing to do is to improve the game itself. Create a real Incarna expansion complete with interactive multi-player content. Incarna had the potential to be a real gold mine by attracting all those people who've steered away from the game because they "need" to have an avatar to feel a part of the game. A solid product in that regard would have probably doubled the current subscriber base. But no they just want to milk existing PAYING customers.
Ion Sky	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:07:00 - [47] me!! i do following the 10 point plan 1.Keep the NEX store,lower the prices and flood it with vanity items 2.Release furniture and other knickknacks for CQ via NEX(posters,model ships ect.) 3.Expand station environment "SE" to include a Main Plaza and Casino 4.Introduce mini-games to the casino (Eve poker,roulette,slots ect.)payed with AUR 5. Expand further on 'SE' (Bar,Corp HQ ect.)all with more AUR purchasable items available for them 6.Release paint jobs for ships (1 run BPC) 7. Fix all problems we've had for ages FW,Hybrids,Lag,Sov etc. 8. Bring out new content for spaceships in space (T3 frigates ect.) 9.Advertise EVE with yet another flashy video 10. Watch new players stream in and old players be satisfied (hopefully coz they're hard to please)with the fixes/new content
Argus Kell Gallente Blackwatch Highlanders	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:16:00 - [48] I'm all for threads like this, but I'm excited about Dust and I think WoD could be pretty cool too. Here's the thing: One-Of-The-Most-Successful-MMO-Creators-For-Over-A-Decade (A.K.A. CCP for anyone who didn't know that already) probably knows how to keep a business afloat, fund new products and manage expectations a lot better than any armchair "business person" here. You're like the people who second guess the government all the time. You think it's soooo easy because in theory, it is, but I imagine this huge successful corporation has already considered your solutions, thought of something you didn't and decided against it. At the end of the day, wake up. They know what they're doing. Just because immediately everybody is throwing a tantrum because they can't understand why Daddy's doing something they don't like, doesn't mean Daddy doesn't know best :P
visableone	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:19:00 - [49] Originally by: Hatchet Q - Drop aurum. CCP should exchange it for ISK. - Make current vanity items cost isk. - Upgrade eve-online store (RL items!) - Make items more expensive if necessary. - Purchasing RL items will give you special codes, that lets you claim vanity items. For example - purchasing Apocalypse model, will get you a non-tradable paint kit for your ingame apocalypse. Purchasing RL t-shirt will give you code to claim such shirt for your avatar, etc... - Eve trading game cards? Where did those go? - Purchasing a deck gives you a small chance of getting special (extra-rare) vanity items. Pirate eye-patch for your avatar? Yarr! +1 for this guys ideas, his proposal would make me happy
Jacoba Stalker	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:19:00 - [50] Originally by: CLONE 9 First things first - we wouldn't be complaining if the core game wasn't worth defending. None of us can really say that EvE Online is anything short of amazing - and unique. The real issue we're looking at here is one of finance and revenue. CCP have obviously made big investments recently in terms of infrastructure to support this unique and groundbreaking unsharded universe and also development of WoD and Dust. I don't think for one second that CCP really think selling monocles enhances the gameplay experience for 95% of players. Surely it's their way of adding a new much needed revenue stream. The next step then is 'gold plated bullets' - which CCP have advised will NOT be part of the game. My guess is that CCP would have naturally explored this until they met resistance - i.e. squeeze until the community screamed - but the community have been astute and already shouted long and hard - hence the 'no golden bullet' statement. I may be being a bit insincere here but we can only speculate at the moment. So - assuming that we want this game to work, what suggestions do you have to increase revenue? I don't think an increase in subscription is the best way to go. Rather than hit the entire player base, it needs to be something that allows people with spare cash to burn to purchase without impacting the balance of the game. Personally - I think vanity items (monocles / ship skins / fancy pants) is only part of the story but I want to hear your 'impact free' money making ideas to solve the underlying issue. MONEY !!!! Wish CCP had done this, but here it goes. 1st things first. EVE caters to a generally small portion of the gaming industry. How to change that is actually rather simple. No matter where you go in today's MMORPG's, it's the same (except here) One big strength that EVE has is you don't have "The Grind". I swear if I have to "go here, kill this, loot that, rinse repeat" in one more game I'm going to go nuts. EVE doesn't have that problem. So, how to expand on that. The solution (IMHO) is quite simple. Alot of people won't play here because there are no "characters". Incarna, at least I thought, was going to address that issue. First Person walk arounds, First person interactions between PEOPLE, can and will bring more customers in without impacting the base game at ALL. Incarna did not go far enough quick enough. Whooptee freakin doo, we have a captains quarters. Can't do a thing with it, can't go anywhere, can't invite anyone else into it. But we have pretty blinkin lights and interactive screens. Good start but not near enough. This needs to go Universe wide. What I mean by that is this. Wherever people can step out of their pods, LET THEM. Stations, Planets, Moons, Base Stations, whatever. Can you imagine all of the new places to explore and mine at on planets that so diverse that you would spend a lifetime exploring them all. This doesn't have to be done all at once, that's not what I'm suggesting. But even hazardous planets can be made explorable with the right equipment (there's a clue for you sherlock, planet side space suits to sell in the NEX. No "advantage" there, just fun and CCP gets more money). I'm sure there are many options, but CCP needs to look at doing something that NOBODY has done before. THAT will make them money. Seamless transport between space and planetary surface. I for one would LOVE to be able to "fly" my ship to the planets surface through the atmosphere, then get out and explore it. Would anyone else?

visableone	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:27:00 - [51] the op has got it right,.... since 2003 when ccp started eve its been running at a loss,. they failed to make the sub cost higher enough to cover the running of the servers,.. so much so that since 2003 eve has'nt had any expansions due to lack of funds for further development. its only now they realised it,. poor ccp. i only wish i had more eyes to accomidate more monocles to help out this poor poverty stricken ccp. plex for good,. plex for ccp!!!
Joiske	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:28:00 - [52] Originally by: Hatchet Q - Drop aurum. CCP should exchange it for ISK. - Make current vanity items cost isk. - Upgrade eve-online store (RL items!) - Make items more expensive if necessary. - Purchasing RL items will give you special codes, that lets you claim vanity items. For example - purchasing Apocalypse model, will get you a non-tradable paint kit for your ingame apocalypse. Purchasing RL t-shirt will give you code to claim such shirt for your avatar, etc... - Eve trading game cards? Where did those go? - Purchasing a deck gives you a small chance of getting special (extra-rare) vanity items. Pirate eye-patch for your avatar? Yarr! this i like, good idea tbh
Doctor Garamond Trebuchet Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:31:00 - [53] Originally by: Valei Khurelem If I were in charge at CCP . I would immediately remove the item store and put these items out for free on the customization screen so that people can use them when they like since they already paid for them through subscriptions and PLEX . Look through the logs of the gamemasters and support staff and fire people who have been unnecessarily rude and patronising to customers . Introduce a hotfix that sets the Captain's Quarters off by default and allows people to turn it on if they want it, that includes any extra space station interiors later on . Start a thread that allows people to post the balance complaints officially and report any bugs or problems with the latest expansion, I would also kick the QA staff into gear and have them give me reports on what to fix so we can at least get things in working order . I would apologise to the playerbase and admit it is a bad idea and paying such ridiculous sums of money for a pair of virtual pants or monocles is not an option for those who are already paying for the game itself . To prevent anything more stupid from happening I would get rid of CSM ( yeah you heard me ) and actually make it compulsory to log on the forums or the game itself for at least one hour a week and talk to players or play the game and find out if there is anything wrong rather than use CSM as an extra PR group to make it seem as if players are being listened to The reason CCP and EVE has become such a disaster is not just because of the expansion or the store, it is because of the complete and blatant abandonment of not only work ethic but also business ethic. If you can't understand that you are delivering a game, a work of art, to the player base and not just a mass-produced product designed to make money. Then you not only shouldn't be in the games industry and should stay the hell away from it, but you should also never purchase a single game again, because it shows you simply haven't got any interest in the way games work and how the customers experience them. HIRE THIS PERSON! Seriously i couldnt have put it any better. I will just add that perpetuum is gaining eve players like crazy even thouh A) it has a horrible character creator B) its not flying but eve with robots Why? Things like, after 15 minutes into the tutorial at 1 am i had a GM private message me, asking what i thought and if he could help. Its not double billing me. - "This is Monaclysmic Incarnage!" - Nath Blazek CAS 101 Where is my Lab Coat? Monacle??? How about Items and Coats f
Frank Corncob	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:32:00 - [54] Sell faction standings. Rules: Positive standings required. Only 4 major empires. That means NO pirate faction, sisters of eve, concord, interbus, w/e No research agent corps. Lai Dai, etc.. You "buy" a storyline mission for the appropriate level you can run. The corp that owns the station is the corp that gives you a storyline. BAM
FuzzyLogik360 Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:32:00 - [55] Originally by: Murev Vorchilde Edited by: Murev Vorchilde on 27/06/2011 09:09:16 use eve money to fund eve instead of sending it to 2 other games You fail at business. Your fired!
Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:33:00 - [56] I just tossed this idea out last night, still has a few angles that need to be covered, but it's thee basics. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1540507 My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ We'll watch what you do not what you say.
Iosue Black Sky Hipsters	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:34:00 - [57] Edited by: Iosue on 27/06/2011 17:34:19 i work in commercial credit transactions IRL and unfortunatley see businesses fail all the time. it's amazing, but a good percentage of those that fail aren't because there's no income. many fail because their owners see they have a cash cow and decide to use their surplus/reserves for other STUPID ideas. that great resturaunt that was killing it ended up failing because the owner wanted to open another resturant with a different concept that ended up sucking up all the income from the profitable one. That strip center is going under because the owner wasn't able to complete that new shopping mall in the middle of nowhere and now has to rely on their existing cashflow to support the failling business. the writing's on the wall dudes, CCP is in over their heads...
Xavier Liche	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:39:00 - [58] My sense is that EVE brings in, and has brought in a lot of trial accounts. Perhpas millions, the ads are all over the place. However: 1. I don't think the rate of conversion from trial to paid is high enough 2. I don't think most new players survive the first 6 months I don't think these are because of issues many would think, like getting ganked, I think it is just a hard game to get started and understand and it is very hard to make the jump out of high sec in a figurative sense. I would try to support the growth of new players with tools and content that teaches them the skills they really need to flourish in EVE. Like a career path to 0.0
Cocomomo	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:39:00 - [59] I would make space PEW PEW FUN Awesome combat graphics, cinematic -missile animation -a miss = miss graphically -readjust perspective LUA interface, good for players and the company.
Lucilla Giulia	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:41:00 - [60] Edited by: Lucilla Giulia on 27/06/2011 17:41:25 i'd agree with the ones sayin: stop one of the 2 others projects they'r tryin to pay "milking" their main trend sadly is not up to us, like intended of course what's up to us is write on paper (well forums) what we as actual payin customers want for the product they r givin us and if the product ends developing in a way we don't like..well stop buyin it. "funny" stuff that might actually bring to first option...

FuzzyLogik360 Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:45:00 - [61] Edited by: FuzzyLogik360 on 27/06/2011 17:45:39 Originally by: Iosue Edited by: Iosue on 27/06/2011 17:34:19 i work in commercial credit transactions IRL and unfortunatley see businesses fail all the time. it's amazing, but a good percentage of those that fail aren't because there's no income. many fail because their owners see they have a cash cow and decide to use their surplus/reserves for other STUPID ideas. that great resturaunt that was killing it ended up failing because the owner wanted to open another resturant with a different concept that ended up sucking up all the income from the profitable one. That strip center is going under because the owner wasn't able to complete that new shopping mall in the middle of nowhere and now has to rely on their existing cashflow to support the failling business. the writing's on the wall dudes, CCP is in over their heads... All very true, but that's surely only a fraction of the bigger picture. Securing the long term future of a business means either, at the very least, holding market share or, preferably (especially when revenues are falling, like in a recession), growing market share. Take Richard Branson and the Virgin brand, or General Electric, or 3M. The common factor between them is that all have ventured into hugely disparate businesses (e.g. GE make electric light bulbs, also make gas turbines, and they do finance - crazier still Virgin do telecommunications and in the future will do space-flights!). You can gurantee that the profits from one buiness section will be shared with other busniess/private ventures (Virgin's SpaceShipOne a classic case in point). While I accept that there are many failed businesses out there, there are those that have managed the risk and the reward has been great. To think that CCP wouldn't pool their profits and share them out amongst other projects is to ignore the facts of life. Do you think development of the imac, iphone and ipad were funded on magic... No, they were funded on the back of the hugely successful ipod. Why shouldn't CCP adopt the same philosophy??
Mirage Excelsior Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:46:00 - [62] How to make money? Got an easy one, bit ******ed though no doubt. Let the super rich 'rent' NPC stations. Every 1/3/6/12 months, hold an auction, with a list of the 10/15/20 most popular stations. Then those that want to, can bid with their/dads credit card. The winning bidder for that period then 'owns' the station, and collects the sales tax on all items sold on the market in that station. Throw in a usable bonus per each ownership cycle, State/Fed/Rep/Imp battleship BPC, or perhaps a BPC of the ships awarded for tournaments and/or other rare ship BPCs. $$$ + no Harry Potter magic wand magically appearing ships/mods/etc. Or, another one. Fix everything the players have complained about for the last 8 years, then maybe, just maybe you will see an increase in subscriptions from these players wanting back in.
CLONE 9 Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:47:00 - [63] I don't want general comments. I want smart ideas about how to generate more money for CCP without breaking the game. Read the thread - some great ideas in here but we could do with more. This isn't a crusade - it's open season on brainstorming SHOW ME THE MONEY!!! 9.
Zeta Kalin Large Rodent Hunters	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:50:00 - [64] Originally by: CLONE 9 First things first - we wouldn't be complaining if the core game wasn't worth defending. None of us can really say that EvE Online is anything short of amazing - and unique. The real issue we're looking at here is one of finance and revenue. Pro-tip : the FHC people got their hands on CCP financials and there is no hint of trouble whatsoever. CCP is very profitable and has healthy cash reserves. Whatever prompted those boneheaded decisions wasn't being cash starved. Being greedy bastards on the other hand... -- I do have a few expensive suits. However I'm pretty sure none is more expensive than an aircraft carrier.
Quartex Gallente Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.27 17:57:00 - [65] Originally by: Ion Sky me!! i do following the 10 point plan 1.Keep the NEX store,lower the prices and flood it with vanity items 2.Release furniture and other knickknacks for CQ via NEX(posters,model ships ect.) 3.Expand station environment "SE" to include a Main Plaza and Casino 4.Introduce mini-games to the casino (Eve poker,roulette,slots ect.)payed with AUR 5. Expand further on 'SE' (Bar,Corp HQ ect.)all with more AUR purchasable items available for them 6.Release paint jobs for ships (1 run BPC) 7. Fix all problems we've had for ages FW,Hybrids,Lag,Sov etc. 8. Bring out new content for spaceships in space (T3 frigates ect.) 9.Advertise EVE with yet another flashy video 10. Watch new players stream in and old players be satisfied (hopefully coz they're hard to please)with the fixes/new content I reckon this is on the right lines. New customers might be attracted to a game that can be played entirely in station, where they can do RP. Also, make Dust driven by pay to win but turn down the impact it has on sov taking as a result. In return the core game is supported and old problems fixed, to keep what made Eve famous in place, even if the ceiling for recruiting people to an internet spaceship sandbox game has been reached. No pay to win once you undock though.
X Gallentius Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2011.06.27 18:01:00 - [66] What about a freaking Corporation Office where our avatars can chill with out their and play LoL while we wait for the next fleet to form?
Henrica Gaufridus	Posted - 2011.06.27 18:02:00 - [67] Someone earlier suggested something along the lines of: You buy clothing from the Eve Online store (ie a RL Quafe shirt) you get it in game. That, I think, is something positively brilliant that I would totally do.
Henrica Gaufridus	Posted - 2011.06.27 18:05:00 - [68] Up the ESRB rating to "Mature" and allow nekkid people and gore?
CLONE 9 Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2011.06.27 18:10:00 - [69] Originally by: Zeta Kalin Originally by: CLONE 9 First things first - we wouldn't be complaining if the core game wasn't worth defending. None of us can really say that EvE Online is anything short of amazing - and unique. The real issue we're looking at here is one of finance and revenue. Pro-tip : the FHC people got their hands on CCP financials and there is no hint of trouble whatsoever. CCP is very profitable and has healthy cash reserves. Whatever prompted those boneheaded decisions wasn't being cash starved. Being greedy bastards on the other hand... Here's a Pro-Tip for you: Read the thread before posting. My second post especially where I make it clear that I don't think they're under financial hardship. A healthy profit is one thing but unless you have costed plans for future development then can you say that the margins are good enough? Regardless - if CCP are intent on making more money then what harm is there in illustrating acceptable avenues that don't kill the game dead. Greed is bad .... but when they're our suggestions it's classy. 9.
Kazini Jax Gallente Starlight Operations Starlight Network	Posted - 2011.06.27 18:16:00 - [70] Oh hell no! Not without them signing an NDA first

C0mbat W0mbat	Posted - 2011.06.27 18:18:00 - [71] 1. Keep aurum, do not sell vanity for ISK, CCP needs PLEXes sold for RL company funds, not cater some in-game powerplayers or botters that have all the isk they want 2. Never do gold ammo, gold drug boosters, gold guns whatever Based from that, some ideas from a mission running carebear Pov a) repair faction standings for aurum, 1PLEX to get a faction boost of 50%, capped at 1.0 faction standing. Saves the player a month of grind if he went beyond good with a faction, but does not enable lvl3/4 agents right away b) same for concord sec rating, lets welcome hard core pirates back in carebear heaven c) let me talk to agents remotely, I would even activate CQ again to use this. This service costs 1plex for 360 days d) bribe agents to give me a new mission earlier than 4 hours when I declined one. No standing loss then. Price is 3 to the power of (agent lvl). so 81Aurum for lvl4, 240 Aurum for lvl5 e) transfer kill rights for Aurum. I want to hire a Merc to do my revenge f) gimme a concord response fleet for aurum that will strike back even in low sec (just dreamin' here, killing low sec mission runners is too little risk for the pirate in my eyes) Make it 3 strike forces for a plex, contract running 3 months, basically like insurance. They only help you if you are above -2 sec rating and not GCC when attacked. omega) buy a content developer for RL cash and get your own ideas, it'S your job, CCP. players pay for you to do your job. btw, i would never have had these ideas 2 days ago when I was shooting luminaire titan and jita 4-4. But when the dust settles, the whole universe becomes a world of darkness again. (couldn't resist)
BonnyBlue Southstar	Posted - 2011.06.27 19:01:00 - [72] 1 - YES, I agree with those who said expand the Incarna features to actually include the station, complete with possible bars, restaurants, clubs, casinos, etc. Perhaps some might even be R rated to allow for more mature RP and age verification required, though of course I fully understand the issues there...at any rate, DO please, give those who would like to RP, as avs not ships, the option that was promised by Incarna! Why not have private clubs and sell the franchises to those wishing to invest in such a thing? 2 - How about offering "alien" avatars to purchase with plex, complete with special items that could also be purchased. Though they may not affect the game outcome, they will allow us to be "other world" characters when we rp in that Incarna station or even in other environments. 3 - Absolutely, I agree with Jacoba Stalker, what an amazing thing it would be to have the ability to go off ship into another planet! Wonder if there was a "resort" planet or galaxy that players might be able to "rent" the right to visit - new worlds, asteroid belts - environments to explore alongside other AV ...no game outcome involved, just another unique place in the universe where the avatars could meet and role play? Maybe sell day passes, month passes, memberships? PLEASE don't underestimate the attraction of AV to AV role play and the money people are willing to spend for the chance to be very different and interact in a totally different environment! 4 - Wonder if you created planets that need settling and sold, perhaps even by lottery, passes for the privilege to be one of the members in pioneering who will ôsettleö that new world where the difficulties were on the surface of a planet rather than in dealing with the space pirates? Wonder if you sold, for plex or isk, the ability to set up a small Pa/Ma operation as a pioneer on some world and allowed empires to be built that way? The options to sell storefronts or other things to enhance the environment are virtually limitless. Again, no change in the outcome of those still enjoy space but certainly a new environment for those who wish AV to AV RP. LetÆs consider the wonderful show, ôFireflyö for a bit and think of how worlds and civilizations might evolve or devolve! 5 wonder if you did away with AUR and stick with isk and plex and set up a CCS-run exchange whereby isk might be traded for plex with CCS taking a percentage of the trade as an "exchange" rate? Any Item made in the game could be sold in the game but those who spent the time and effort to make the item could reap the rewards of actual real-life monetary benefits by exchanging the isk for plex where plex can only be used in game. Keeping the economy entirely within EvE! 6 wonder if there were the occasional ship wrecks that offered something like ôfranchise papersö or other high value items and only those who were out there actually exploring, would find and salvage such items. They could, in turn and if they didnÆt want the items themselves, sell them for isk, which could then be exchanged for plex (CCS getting the kick-back in the exchange rate) which would then be used to enhance that particular playerÆs game experience. OK, i can think of a ton of ways each of these ideas might be set to bring in some form or money for CCS but yep, it would take work on your part to lay the foundation! I am not willing to spend money on a game that offers me virtually nothing!...And who the heck would buy vanity items when there is no way to show them off? rolls her eyes and for heaven sakes, the female clothes are the PITTS! Women spend money in space too and not all of us want to be dressed like men....some of us just might be more inclined to the other roles than simply piloting!
Maverick2011 Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.27 19:08:00 - [73] Originally by: Murev Vorchilde Edited by: Murev Vorchilde on 27/06/2011 09:09:16 use eve money to fund eve instead of sending it to 2 other games end of topic
edith prickley	Posted - 2011.06.27 19:12:00 - [74] Originally by: CLONE 9 I don't want general comments. I want smart ideas about how to generate more money for CCP without breaking the game. (i) Increase the number of customers by building a quality product. (ii) Don't chase away existing customers by convincing them you are trying to gouge them because you've failed to succeed at (i). You can only squeeze a limited amount out of the existing customer base. MTs will be a fraction of $180/year per subscribed account and makes you look greedy. Lots of loyal happy customers makes for a nice stable income.


Pages: 1 2 3 :: [one page]

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.

FINALLY SOME TRUTH!!