Originally by: ZooChase II

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And why was Helicity Boson banned exactly?

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Originally by: ZooChase II

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And why was Helicity Boson banned exactly?

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Originally by: ZooChase II

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And why was Helicity Boson banned exactly?

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Originally by: Mister Smithington

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The event itself wasn't banned. It's organizer, Helicity Boson, was.

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Originally by: ZooChase II

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And why was Helicity Boson banned exactly?

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Originally by: Baillif

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Telling someone to die in a fire is fine (happens all the time) but telling them dying in a fire is too quick to be considered satisfactory is apparently crossing some sort of line.

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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha

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Originally by: Baillif

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Telling someone to die in a fire is fine (happens all the time) but telling them dying in a fire is too quick to be considered satisfactory is apparently crossing some sort of line.

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Oh yes, I could even understand a 90 days ban for this.
But permanent, and "because it's a RL treat"? Come on, how realistic is to see someone stating garbage on a forum and then flying to Iceland to put the garbage into practice?

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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha

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Originally by: Baillif

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Telling someone to die in a fire is fine (happens all the time) but telling them dying in a fire is too quick to be considered satisfactory is apparently crossing some sort of line.

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Oh yes, I could even understand a 90 days ban for this.
But permanent, and "because it's a RL treat"? Come on, how realistic is to see someone stating garbage on a forum and then flying to Iceland to put the garbage into practice?

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Originally by: Whiteknight03

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Whatever happened to Liang?

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Originally by: Jade Cargo

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Quite frankly people are waaaay too aggressive, arrogant and flat out rude just because they hide behind the anonymity of the interwebz. It's not hard to be even mildly polite. Moar permabans pls.

Seriously though - if you think this is an acceptable way to converse with a complete stranger, then you may want to reset your opinion of 'acceptable'. I believe the term is 'normalisation of deviance'. It isn't acceptable. Not even close. And let's not try to debate whether it was a 'real life threat' or not. It's just plain wrong.

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Originally by: Wencher

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Totally unwarranted ban.

Helicity was a pillar of the community and was respected by all.

http://pastebin.com/NtRB9bin

I see nothing wrong here. This is totally normal human behaviour when dealing with another person. I speak like this to people all the time and they respect my opinions.

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Originally by: Wencher

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http://pastebin.com/NtRB9bin

I see nothing wrong here. This is totally normal human behaviour when dealing with another person. I speak like this to people all the time and they respect my opinions.

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Originally by: Smagd

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Discussing rage bans may get your threads locked, though. Not long and his name will be censored on the forums, too, like another forum member who pointed out CCPs internal problems.

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Originally by: Jade Cargo

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Quite frankly people are waaaay too aggressive, arrogant and flat out rude just because they hide behind the anonymity of the interwebz. It's not hard to be even mildly polite. Moar permabans pls.

Seriously though - if you think this is an acceptable way to converse with a complete stranger, then you may want to reset your opinion of 'acceptable'. I believe the term is 'normalisation of deviance'. It isn't acceptable. Not even close. And let's not try to debate whether it was a 'real life threat' or not. It's just plain wrong.

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Please, whatever you do, do not unban me. You are the worst company IÆve ever had to deal with.

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Originally by: Baillif

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Meh, emotions were high, tempers flared, **** got said that people didn't necessarily mean.

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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha

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Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 28/06/2011 07:24:27

Originally by: ZooChase II

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And why was Helicity Boson banned exactly?

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With an excuse.

You may see tons of people saying each other to DIAF or GTFO 100000 times on the forum with no harm.

Now, tell the same someone to DIAF when the someone is in a position of power and when the same someone has all to gain at removing you. Suddenly, the EULA is enforced and permanently so.

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Originally by: Whiteknight03

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Whatever happened to Liang?

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Originally by: Cpt Greagor

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If I understand correctly, it wasn't because Helicity told him to die in a fire, it is because Helicity used his REAL name when he told him to die in a fire.

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Originally by: Pherick Sjang

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Originally by: Jade Cargo

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Quite frankly people are waaaay too aggressive, arrogant and flat out rude just because they hide behind the anonymity of the interwebz. It's not hard to be even mildly polite. Moar permabans pls.

Seriously though - if you think this is an acceptable way to converse with a complete stranger, then you may want to reset your opinion of 'acceptable'. I believe the term is 'normalisation of deviance'. It isn't acceptable. Not even close. And let's not try to debate whether it was a 'real life threat' or not. It's just plain wrong.

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So basically, you're a ***got?

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Never fear! For I am still here :)

Originally by: xwolfi

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As a french guy, I am utterly displeased at CCP's reaction against Helicity Boson ! Insults are a way of life where I live, we should not be cast away like this ! I fear it might even be a diplomatic issue with the whole latin world !

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Originally by: Dr Fighter

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"how do you know when youve had a repro accident"

Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.

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Originally by: Kunming

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Nah when some of the forum warriors grow up and dont act like school children..

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Originally by: Miilla

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Never fear! For I am still here :)

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Originally by: mechtech

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So much for freedom of the players...

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Originally by: Blacksquirrel

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This is EVE. PVE can happen anywhere at anytime. Be prepared.

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Originally by: De'Veldrin

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Originally by: mechtech

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So much for freedom of the players...

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Which freedoms would those be, exactly? I don't remember seeing "You have the right to be an assbag" posted anywhere on the ToS.

Let's be clear about one thing - this is not a public forum, it's a private one, owned, operated, and monitored by a private company. You have exactly as much "right" to post here as they say you do, and not one bit more.

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You may see tons of people saying each other to DIAF or GTFO 100000 times on the forum with no harm.

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They permabanned ALL of his accounts for saying a variant of "die in a fire"?!?!

Geez CCP... that deserves a 7-14 day forum gag, not a ban.

So much for freedom of the players, it looks like this was a way for CCP to get rid of someone playing the game in a way they didn't like.

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Originally by: Wencher

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Totally unwarranted ban.

Helicity was a pillar of the community and was respected by all.

http://pastebin.com/NtRB9bin

I see nothing wrong here. This is totally normal human behaviour when dealing with another person. I speak like this to people all the time and they respect my opinions.

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Originally by: mechtech

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They permabanned ALL of his accounts for saying a variant of "die in a fire"?!?!

Geez CCP... that deserves a 7-14 day forum gag, not a ban.

So much for freedom of the players, it looks like this was a way for CCP to get rid of someone playing the game in a way they didn't like.

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Originally by: Cipher Jones

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No. Not EvEn close. Its against the TOS to even say someones real name on the forum, let alone threaten them.

Its a world of difference.

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Originally by: Louis deGuerre

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The 'real name' argument does not stick as his real name is well known. Not like the guy was being outed.
(I'd post the name but I don't wanna get banhammered )

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Originally by: Tyburn Stannis

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Because it was directed at somebody's REAL NAME.

Big difference between "all CCP devs should go kill themselves for this fail patch" and "You, John Smith, are going to get a knife in the back if I ever find you"

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Originally by: Valei Khurelem

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Yes I do consider giving CCP the middle finger through ASCII art trivial, that's my right to freedom of expression.

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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha

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Originally by: Baillif

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Telling someone to die in a fire is fine (happens all the time) but telling them dying in a fire is too quick to be considered satisfactory is apparently crossing some sort of line.

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Oh yes, I could even understand a 90 days ban for this.
But permanent, and "because it's a RL treat"? Come on, how realistic is to see someone stating garbage on a forum and then flying to Iceland to put the garbage into practice?

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Originally by: Barakkus

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Originally by: De'Veldrin

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Originally by: mechtech

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So much for freedom of the players...

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Which freedoms would those be, exactly? I don't remember seeing "You have the right to be an assbag" posted anywhere on the ToS.

Let's be clear about one thing - this is not a public forum, it's a private one, owned, operated, and monitored by a private company. You have exactly as much "right" to post here as they say you do, and not one bit more.

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It's a shame too many of my fellow countrymen don't understand the difference between private companies, governments and what the laws of the land actually pertain to, or the fact that there are different countries out there with different laws etc.

Just gotta love the free speech crowd on the intert00bz.

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Originally by: Aramatheia

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Originally by: Barakkus

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Originally by: De'Veldrin

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Originally by: mechtech

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So much for freedom of the players...

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Which freedoms would those be, exactly? I don't remember seeing "You have the right to be an assbag" posted anywhere on the ToS.

Let's be clear about one thing - this is not a public forum, it's a private one, owned, operated, and monitored by a private company. You have exactly as much "right" to post here as they say you do, and not one bit more.

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It's a shame too many of my fellow countrymen don't understand the difference between private companies, governments and what the laws of the land actually pertain to, or the fact that there are different countries out there with different laws etc.

Just gotta love the free speech crowd on the intert00bz.

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i dont know this helicity person, i dont know what they said aside from the obscure references to real names fires and dying. What i do know however is its not "freedom of speech" just being a douchebag on a webforum. Its just that, being a douche. I can promise you if you were in a heated disagreement with someone face to face and you told them to go die in a fire, they would wrap you around a pole.

if all these internet toughguys, ethugs and virtual heroes spoke to people in the real world - the world outside thier dark bedrooms - like they do on here, most of them wouldnt see the following day. Talking trash on an internet forum IS NOT being awesome and something to worship. Its gutless, cowardice, spineless and every single word in any language for being weak and pathetic.

E-Thugs wall of rubbish is deflected by thier monitor screen dealing 0.0 Damage.

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Originally by: Barakkus

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Originally by: Valei Khurelem

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Yes I do consider giving CCP the middle finger through ASCII art trivial, that's my right to freedom of expression.

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Actually it's not, I don't know why people keep thinking they have the right to post whatever the **** they want without consequence.

Whatever laws your home government grant you in regards to expression do not apply here or anywhere else that is a privately owned and operated business. They only apply to what you can and can't do in regards to your relationship with your government. Period.

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Originally by: Aramatheia

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i dont know this helicity person, i dont know what they said aside from the obscure references to real names fires and dying. What i do know however is its not "freedom of speech" just being a douchebag on a webforum. Its just that, being a douche. I can promise you if you were in a heated disagreement with someone face to face and you told them to go die in a fire, they would wrap you around a pole.


if all these internet toughguys, ethugs and virtual heroes spoke to people in the real world - the world outside thier dark bedrooms - like they do on here, most of them wouldnt see the following day. Talking trash on an internet forum IS NOT being awesome and something to worship. Its gutless, cowardice, spineless and every single word in any language for being weak and pathetic.

E-Thugs wall of rubbish is deflected by thier monitor screen dealing 0.0 Damage.

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Originally by: Selinate

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Edited by: Selinate on 08/08/2011 17:07:54
CCP is the most tolerant game company I have ever seen when it comes to what they allow on their forums. Even I, a person who has been perma-banned from many a game forum, would actually like it if they perma-banned more of the people who use this forum. It gets old after a while seeing idiots whine and moan and then flame all the time .

I mean seriously, you all who are defending this helicity person who suggested that dying in a fire would be too quick for someone on this forum are just a bunch of losers. Get a life. This is something more than deserving of a perma-ban from the forums.

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Originally by: Miilla

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They should just automate banning those accounts that do not purchase a Monocle after 1 month of game time.

Just like they automated live events into the incursions small shell script.

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Originally by: Barakkus

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I can promise you if you were in a heated disagreement with someone face to face and you told them to go die in a fire, they would wrap you around a pole.

if all these internet toughguys, ethugs and virtual heroes spoke to people in the real world - the world outside thier dark bedrooms - like they do on here, most of them wouldnt see the following day.

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Originally by: Wencher

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Totally unwarranted ban.

Helicity was a pillar of the community and was respected by all.

http://pastebin.com/NtRB9bin

I see nothing wrong here. This is totally normal human behaviour when dealing with another person. I speak like this to people all the time and they respect my opinions.

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Originally by: Willow Boru

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Wow, you guys are so CUTE! I'm guessing the combined IQ of everyone here only exceeds the combined age. You folks really should grow up.

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Originally by: Quebber

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Originally by: Wencher

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Totally unwarranted ban.

Helicity was a pillar of the community and was respected by all.

http://pastebin.com/NtRB9bin

I see nothing wrong here. This is totally normal human behaviour when dealing with another person. I speak like this to people all the time and they respect my opinions.

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Erm no he was not, do not even try to assume to speak for the entire community.

This was a real life threat to a real life person using that persons real life name, you do that in any mmo and its a ban.

I don't care how big heli's ego is or opinion of himself he deserved a ban for that, rules are not mitigated by "he was a nice guy"

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Originally by: Skinae

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Edited by: Skinae on 09/08/2011 12:20:19

Originally by: Barakkus

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I can promise you if you were in a heated disagreement with someone face to face and you told them to go die in a fire, they would wrap you around a pole.

if all these internet toughguys, ethugs and virtual heroes spoke to people in the real world - the world outside thier dark bedrooms - like they do on here, most of them wouldnt see the following day.

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Originally by: Skinae

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Edited by: Skinae on 09/08/2011 12:20:19

Originally by: Barakkus

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I can promise you if you were in a heated disagreement with someone face to face and you told them to go die in a fire, they would wrap you around a pole.

if all these internet toughguys, ethugs and virtual heroes spoke to people in the real world - the world outside thier dark bedrooms - like they do on here, most of them wouldnt see the following day.

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Originally by: Morpheonus

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permaban all accounts from the game, not the forums, is what ive gathered from this, my upholding tolerance.

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Originally by: Stacey Lane

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What a bunch of crybabies, nobody would purposely in an argument with a person face to face act like many of the people here do. Why? Cause that person potentially has the power to knock you on your ass. This is exactly what CCP did to HG....he pushed someone bigger than him, they pushed back he lost. Move on get over it, its just a game.

Also just to clarify if a forum member found out your real name, got into an arguement with you and made a direct threat to you and not your ingame avatar, you could have him banned from the game and potentially file a police report.

To many gamers have been living in their safe basements under their mums house and they cant handle it when the real world bites them on the ass.

If anything CCP and all forum moderators need to do more banning.

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Originally by: Stacey Lane

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Also just to clarify if a forum member found out your real name, got into an arguement with you and made a direct threat to you and not your ingame avatar, you could have him banned from the game and potentially file a police report.

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Originally by: Hwong Jian

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Originally by: Stacey Lane

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Also just to clarify if a forum member found out your real name, got into an arguement with you and made a direct threat to you and not your ingame avatar, you could have him banned from the game and potentially file a police report.

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Oh my sweet, magical, majestic ****!

I am so very tired of hearing this analogy. Especially since only the most stupid and mentally handicapped people seem to use it. What is your mental damage? Autism? Asperger's? Do you have an IQ lower than Forrest Gump?

I have one question that I would like for you to answer: How is "dying in a fire is not slow enough, <real name>" a 'direct threat'?

Please back up your argument by defining how the above statement correlates to a 'direct threat.'

And, for the record, I do not have a problem with Helicity beign banned. I have a problem with the lie used to justify the ban.

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Originally by: Maxx Q Omega

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The guy was/is whiny trash. To hell with him...

Originally by: Hecatonis

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...the last time some entitled jerk got mouthy with me because he assumed i "owed" him something i dropped him, right in front of his girlfriend/my ex. if helicity say that kind of BS to my face i would do the same in a heartbeat.

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Great I wish I was as good a person as you...

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Originally by: Hwong Jian

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This is a case of "he said, she said" to a lesser extent. On his blog, Helicity stated that he was told by CCP he was permabanned for making real life threats against devs.

If you check his post history, which you may or may not still be able to do, you will see that the most threatening thing he stated on the EVE-O forums is the comment above in bold.

And every single anti-Helicity voice clings to the "he made death threats" argument, but there is no proof of anything resembling a death threat. That is, of course, acting under the assumption that a death threat is "I will kill you" and not "dying in a fire would be too easy."

And, for the record, I do tell people in real life "I hope you die in a fire. And, not from smoke inhalation. I also don't want you to go into shock." I do not consider that a death threat to them, just me expressing my desire for them to suffer great pain.

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Originally by: Hecatonis

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Originally by: Maxx Q Omega

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The guy was/is whiny trash. To hell with him...

Originally by: Hecatonis

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...the last time some entitled jerk got mouthy with me because he assumed i "owed" him something i dropped him, right in front of his girlfriend/my ex. if helicity say that kind of BS to my face i would do the same in a heartbeat.

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Great I wish I was as good a person as you...

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your right, i am not the best person in the world. but being the bigger man with people like that just reinforces their mind set that they can get away with it. if discussion will not work, if logic will not work, and leaving the area will not work you are left with few option. in the end the conversation will stop.

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Originally by: The Pillar

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Eve Player base used to be adults, it's one of the things I loved about the game. wtf happened

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Originally by: Hwong Jian

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This is a case of "he said, she said" to a lesser extent. On his blog, Helicity stated that he was told by CCP he was permabanned for making real life threats against devs.

If you check his post history, which you may or may not still be able to do, you will see that the most threatening thing he stated on the EVE-O forums is the comment above in bold.

And every single anti-Helicity voice clings to the "he made death threats" argument, but there is no proof of anything resembling a death threat. That is, of course, acting under the assumption that a death threat is "I will kill you" and not "dying in a fire would be too easy."

And, for the record, I do tell people in real life "I hope you die in a fire. And, not from smoke inhalation. I also don't want you to go into shock." I do not consider that a death threat to them, just me expressing my desire for them to suffer great pain.

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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It's true, you can get away with a lot of crap in high school that doesn't fly when you start interacting with the real world.

Tell you what sweetie, trot yourself into whatever local establishment you like, get in the managements face and say "I hope you die in a fire. And, not from smoke inhalation. I also don't want you to go into shock."

Then come back and tell us how long it took before your rump hit the pavement outside the door.

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Originally by: Hwong Jian

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Edited by: Hwong Jian on 09/08/2011 17:25:11

Originally by: Ranger 1

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It's true, you can get away with a lot of crap in high school that doesn't fly when you start interacting with the real world.

Tell you what sweetie, trot yourself into whatever local establishment you like, get in the managements face and say "I hope you die in a fire. And, not from smoke inhalation. I also don't want you to go into shock."

Then come back and tell us how long it took before your rump hit the pavement outside the door.

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Allow me to respond in kind:

You can talk like that while your parents pay the bills for you because your second testicle hasn't descended yet.

But tell you what, sugarplum, try not to assume that anyone with a counter argument is still a child. That way, your inane rantings will make you look less like flotsam in the gene pool.

And, I use that phrase about once a week on my boss when he does something stupid. Which is about once a week. And, would you like to know why I'm still employed? Because I do my job better than he does his. Of course, since you're on the internet accusing people of being children, you probably don't know anything about careers or job security.

How is McDonald's, by the way? Been almost two decades since I worked in one.

By the way, all of my complaints at CCP are mine to verse as loudly and vehemently as I want to. Want to know why I have a sense of entitlement to the direction CCP is taking this game? All you have to do is buy 1 share in a publicly traded company and you too can concern yourself with the future of the company.

Oh, wait... Childhood... You probably don't even know what terms like "stock market" and "share holder" mean.

See how easy it is to make yourself look awesome by treating the person you're talking to as if they were an ignorant child?

I hope this post isn't too condescending.

By the way, 'condescending' means 'to talk down to someone.'

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Originally by: Hwong Jian

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Edited by: Hwong Jian on 09/08/2011 17:25:11

Originally by: Ranger 1

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It's true, you can get away with a lot of crap in high school that doesn't fly when you start interacting with the real world.

Tell you what sweetie, trot yourself into whatever local establishment you like, get in the managements face and say "I hope you die in a fire. And, not from smoke inhalation. I also don't want you to go into shock."

Then come back and tell us how long it took before your rump hit the pavement outside the door.

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Allow me to respond in kind:

You can talk like that while your parents pay the bills for you because your second testicle hasn't descended yet.

But tell you what, sugarplum, try not to assume that anyone with a counter argument is still a child. That way, your inane rantings will make you look less like flotsam in the gene pool.

And, I use that phrase about once a week on my boss when he does something stupid. Which is about once a week. And, would you like to know why I'm still employed? Because I do my job better than he does his. Of course, since you're on the internet accusing people of being children, you probably don't know anything about careers or job security.

How is McDonald's, by the way? Been almost two decades since I worked in one.

By the way, all of my complaints at CCP are mine to verse as loudly and vehemently as I want to. Want to know why I have a sense of entitlement to the direction CCP is taking this game? All you have to do is buy 1 share in a publicly traded company and you too can concern yourself with the future of the company.

Oh, wait... Childhood... You probably don't even know what terms like "stock market" and "share holder" mean.

See how easy it is to make yourself look awesome by treating the person you're talking to as if they were an ignorant child?

I hope this post isn't too condescending.

By the way, 'condescending' means 'to talk down to someone.'

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Originally by: Hwong Jian

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*long, drawn-out sigh*

At what point in "please don't ever unban me" did you draw the conclusion that Helicity didn't understand what was going on?

Your blatant ignorance illustrates the veracity of my entire post.

In the words of the guys at 7-11 that obviously have both more intelligence and a higher income than you, "thank you, come again."

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Originally by: Soi Mala

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CCP threatened my family. Well, kind of... They responded to my petition saying i won't get my ship back. It wasn't what i wanted to hear so I assume they're threatening my family.

I cancelled my accounts and deleted the posts.

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Originally by: Hwong Jian

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And every single anti-Helicity voice clings to the "he made death threats" argument, but there is no proof of anything resembling a death threat. That is, of course, acting under the assumption that a death threat is "I will kill you" and not "dying in a fire would be too easy."

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Originally by: J Kunjeh

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Edited by: J Kunjeh on 09/08/2011 18:15:26

Originally by: Hwong Jian

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And every single anti-Helicity voice clings to the "he made death threats" argument, but there is no proof of anything resembling a death threat. That is, of course, acting under the assumption that a death threat is "I will kill you" and not "dying in a fire would be too easy."

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How about this then: Helicity is an asshat and was permabanned for his asshattery with the physical threats used as the reason to do so. After reading his blog, all I can say is good riddance.

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Originally by: Hwong Jian

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Originally by: Stacey Lane

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Also just to clarify if a forum member found out your real name, got into an arguement with you and made a direct threat to you and not your ingame avatar, you could have him banned from the game and potentially file a police report.

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Oh my sweet, magical, majestic ****!

I am so very tired of hearing this analogy. Especially since only the most stupid and mentally handicapped people seem to use it. What is your mental damage? Autism? Asperger's? Do you have an IQ lower than Forrest Gump?

I have one question that I would like for you to answer: How is "dying in a fire is not slow enough, <real name>" a 'direct threat'?

Please back up your argument by defining how the above statement correlates to a 'direct threat.'

And, for the record, I do not have a problem with Helicity beign banned. I have a problem with the lie used to justify the ban.

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Originally by: Cipher Jones

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Everyone who says i am a forum troll can directly kiss my ass right here and now.

I will explain it again.

Using a players real name = bannable offense.

Learn to ****ing internet.

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Originally by: Hwong Jian

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Originally by: Cipher Jones

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Everyone who says i am a forum troll can directly kiss my ass right here and now.

I will explain it again.

Using a players real name = bannable offense.

Learn to ****ing internet.

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But that wasn't the reason for the ban. The reason was for making a "death threat".

Learn to pay attention.

Please learn, because that post makes you look like a forum troll, douchebag.

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Originally by: Hwong Jian

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*long, drawn-out sigh*

At what point in "please don't ever unban me" did you draw the conclusion that Helicity didn't understand what was going on?

Your blatant ignorance illustrates the veracity of my entire post.

In the words of the guys at 7-11 that obviously have both more intelligence and a higher income than you, "thank you, come again."

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Originally by: Hwong Jian

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The email explaining the reason for the ban is on Helicity's website. And, it has been confirmed by CCP as true.

Perhaps if you knew how to internet...

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Originally by: Hwong Jian

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Hi.
I'm Helicity's new mouthpiece.

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Originally by: Hwong Jian

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The email explaining the reason for the ban is on Helicity's website. And, it has been confirmed by CCP as true.

Perhaps if you knew how to internet...

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Originally by: Hwong Jian

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Oh god...

Did you...?

I mean, really....?

Hang on a sec.

Judges? ...

We have come to a consensus, Ranger 1.

You are either trolling, and deserve 4/10 for your effort (points deducted for making yourself look like an idiot in the process) or you actually are THAT stupid.

"The flood of tears and rage" that you are observing are from the pro and anti Helicity ban camps.

The fact that you are attributing the contents of this post in any way to Helicity Boson's feelings or comments swings the needle fairly mightily in the direction of "stupid" and away from "troll".

Helicity isn't posting in this thread. Helicity isn't posting on his blog. Helicity is done with EVE. But, since EVE is a sandbox and the actions of one person have the ability to affect everyone. And, since Hulkageddon has been running for more years than you've been playing EVE, EVE isn't done with Helicity.

If you wish to continue attributing the effect of a sandbox game to an individual player, by all means, do so. It's not like I can stop you from being stupid.

PS: I bolded the only parts you're going to pay attention to that way you don't have to strain your meager intellect on understanding the complexities involved in Helicity not being a part of this thread.

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If I had known you would have the nerve to post this ****...

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Zindfandel is the worst kind of scum.

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You people work for _us_ not the other way around, the food in your mouths is the food we buy for you.

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Your game is dying, your next two games will be stillborn. And by banning me you have just martyred me in the eyes of your customers.

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I will never stop. I will watch every move CCP makes, and every time your guys inevitably screw it up, I will make sure there is another 100 page threadnaught and a dozen mocking articles on every gaming news site.

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Eve was my passion, my treasured hobby, my favorite pastime. And when you guys decide to **** with that, I will literally come down on you like a ton of bricks. I have the playersÆ ears now, not you. You would do well to remember that.

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Originally by: Cipher Jones

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I actually wasted part of my day reading it myself. What was posted on his site was replies from CCP about various things with his opinions added. If you consider that "confirmed" whatever.

Here is my final opinion on it, and you are entitled to your own.

Its *******s like that that ruin games for people. This ****er made career out of griefing and became EvE famous over it. Now hes gone and there's a handful of people upset. Good riddance.

As far as the facts go, independent from my opinion, he broke MULTIPLE forum rules, including 4, 6, 8, 9, 11. You can't say that didn't happen, and if you think it's unfair all I can say is thats too bad, huh?

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I will never stop. I will watch every move CCP makes, and every time your guys inevitably screw it up, I will make sure there is another 100 page threadnaught and a dozen mocking articles on every gaming news site.

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Eve was my passion, my treasured hobby, my favorite pastime. And when you guys decide to **** with that, I will literally come down on you like a ton of bricks. I have the playersÆ ears now, not you. You would do well to remember that.

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Originally by: Cipher Jones

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My bad Brundle, carry on.

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Originally by: BrundleMeth

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I will never stop. I will watch every move CCP makes, and every time your guys inevitably screw it up, I will make sure there is another 100 page threadnaught and a dozen mocking articles on every gaming news site.

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This one was priceless. Whatta goof....

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Eve was my passion, my treasured hobby, my favorite pastime. And when you guys decide to **** with that, I will literally come down on you like a ton of bricks. I have the playersÆ ears now, not you. You would do well to remember that.

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This guy is truely delusional...

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And by banning me you have just martyred me in the eyes of your customers.

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Originally by: Hwong Jian

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Hi.
I'm Helicity's new mouthpiece.

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Is he paying you real life money to post all this worship? Or are you the one of his accts CCP didn't know about when the ban hammer came down?

Mr Epeen

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Originally by: Takamori Maruyama

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That sort of people you don't simply throw off.

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Originally by: BrundleMeth

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I will never stop. I will watch every move CCP makes, and every time your guys inevitably screw it up, I will make sure there is another 100 page threadnaught and a dozen mocking articles on every gaming news site.

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This one was priceless. Whatta goof....

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Eve was my passion, my treasured hobby, my favorite pastime. And when you guys decide to **** with that, I will literally come down on you like a ton of bricks. I have the playersÆ ears now, not you. You would do well to remember that.

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This guy is truely delusional...

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Originally by: Hwong Jian

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@Ranger 1: Congrats on milking tears out of a website that hasn't been updated in 5 weeks. You, sir, are a master of beating dead horses.

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Originally by: Hwong Jian

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@Mr. Epeen: Did you miss the part where I said "I support the ban, just not for the reason stated"? Were you born this stupid or is this the result of years of practice?

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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So which is it, he didn't mean what he said when he wrote it... or he's had a change of heart recently?

When did the ban we are discussing happen?

Oh thats right. It happened just before the blog we are discussing was written.

Relevance, look it up.

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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Mr. Epeen can put you in your place on his own with no help from me, but do you really mean to state that telling him that he was banned because his post was "inappropriate and quite offensive" is an unsuitable or unexpected response to what was written?

That's a bit of a stretch for you to justify, don't you think...

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- I do not care that Helicity was banned.
- I do not care that Helicity has a blog/soapbox.

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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So which is it, he didn't mean what he said when he wrote it... or he's had a change of heart recently?

When did the ban we are discussing happen?

Oh thats right. It happened just before the blog we are discussing was written.

Relevance, look it up.

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I do not understand your question. Most likely, this is because you do not understand my point. Allow me to state it again:

- I do not care that Helicity was banned.
- I do not care that Helicity has a blog/soapbox.
- I believe that the reasons stated for Helicity being banned are a lie.
- No variant of "die in a fire" constitutes a personal threat.
- Personal threats must include the phrase "I will" in some form and describe an act of violence.
- CCP stated that the reason for banning Helicity was him issuing a "personal threat".
- The ban was not for using a dev's real name. See above.
- I do not appreciate being lied to.
- I believe that CCP has the right to ban players for any reason they desire. But, see above.

So, since absolutely NOTHING I've said is an attempt to justify or apologize for Helicity's actions, what is the relevance of your question?

Perhaps you would be so kind as to rephrase it in a way that makes sense.

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Mr. Epeen can put you in your place on his own with no help from me, but do you really mean to state that telling him that he was banned because his post was "inappropriate and quite offensive" is an unsuitable or unexpected response to what was written?

That's a bit of a stretch for you to justify, don't you think...

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Mr. Epeen looks like EVE's version of a gay Vin Diesel and he does nothing more than attempt to troll every topic in which he posts. He unfortunately can't put me in my place by saying "hurr durr, alt detected."

As for the "inappropriate and quite offensive", .... what?

His blog was written AFTER the ban. So, using the contents of that blog to justify the ban is highly illogical. And, as has been said quite a few times in this thread, Helicity was banned for "issuing a personal threat" against an employee of CCP.

He was not banned for saying something "inappropriate and quite offensive".

Could you please rephrase your post for me in a way that addresses the topic at hand?

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No variant of "die in a fire" constitutes a personal threat.

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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Most places of buisness would disagree with you. It may be common slang in some area's to refer to any woman as *****, but if you address a bank teller or a sales woman in that manner you would quickly be shown the door. Slang phrases common on the net or in a section of society does not make them socially acceptable to the general populace.

As you point out, CCP can ban him for whatever reason they like. Likewise, if they chose to interpret his statements as threatening, they are entirely justified in that as well... despite how you would personally interpret them.

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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Most places of buisness would disagree with you. It may be common slang in some area's to refer to any woman as *****, but if you address a bank teller or a sales woman in that manner you would quickly be shown the door. Slang phrases common on the net or in a section of society does not make them socially acceptable to the general populace.

As you point out, CCP can ban him for whatever reason they like. Likewise, if they chose to interpret his statements as threatening, they are entirely justified in that as well... despite how you would personally interpret them.

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Ok. A few quick questions:
- The generalization "most places of business" is based on what?
- Slang is defined as "very informal usage in vocabulary and idiom that is characteristically more metaphorical, playful, elliptical, vivid, and ephemeral than ordinary language". So, are variants of "die in a fire" slang or threats?

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does anyone else find it ironic that the leader of an organization set up mainly to cause tears and aggravation to those that are unprepared and defenseless goes all rage and weepy when he is attacked by a foe that he is unprepared for and completely defenseless from?

karma is a lot like someone i dated, she was a ***** too you know

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does anyone else find it ironic that the leader of an organization set up mainly to cause tears and aggravation to those that are unprepared and defenseless goes all rage and weepy when he is attacked by a foe that he is unprepared for and completely defenseless from?

karma is a lot like someone i dated, she was a ***** too you know.

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Originally by: Hwong Jian

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I'm still employed? Because I do my job better than he does his. Of course, since you're on the internet accusing people of being children, you probably don't know anything about careers or job

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does anyone else find it ironic that the leader of an organization set up mainly to cause tears and aggravation to those that are unprepared and defenseless goes all rage and weepy when he is attacked by a foe that he is unprepared for and completely defenseless from?

karma is a lot like someone i dated, she was a ***** too you know.

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Originally by: Tao Haemon

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You are all missing the irony here: CCP suicide ganked Helicity Boson's account :)

Also for someone who trivialized the losses that he inflicted on others with "it's just pixels" he sure seemed to cry a lot when he got the initial 90 ban. IMHO things would have turned out differently if he had just apologized and explained that he really didn't mean to make any real life threats. Instead he tried to project the impression that he could take down CCP if they messed with him.

There isn't a single player in this game who has the kind of control and power that Helicity Boson claimed to have...

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This guy is truely delusional...

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Originally by: Soi Mala

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"I loved killing Germans. The only good German was a dead one and the deader the better. I rejoice in the fact I killed them, I only regret I couldn't kill more."

Her0ine and a patriot, or racist bigot?

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Free HERO BOSON!

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Originally by: Soi Mala

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"I loved killing Germans. The only good German was a dead one and the deader the better. I rejoice in the fact I killed them, I only regret I couldn't kill more."

Her0ine and a patriot, or racist bigot?

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Psycho hailed as hero by the psychopathic State.

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Originally by: Jak Silverheart

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Yup it was banned in favor of the Monoclegeddon.

I have a list of 12 monocle wearers who I've confirmed owned them, not just some people who say they own it but people who actively wear them. And I am willing to sell them to you for a price, which will get you ahead of the game on this event.

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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Originally by: Jak Silverheart

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Yup it was banned in favor of the Monoclegeddon.

I have a list of 12 monocle wearers who I've confirmed owned them, not just some people who say they own it but people who actively wear them. And I am willing to sell them to you for a price, which will get you ahead of the game on this event.

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This is actually a good idea

Monoclegeddon is a good way to protest ^_^


"Why you blow me up?!!"

"because you're a Monocle wearing tard..."

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Originally by: Cipher Jones

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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Originally by: Jak Silverheart

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Yup it was banned in favor of the Monoclegeddon.

I have a list of 12 monocle wearers who I've confirmed owned them, not just some people who say they own it but people who actively wear them. And I am willing to sell them to you for a price, which will get you ahead of the game on this event.

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This is actually a good idea

Monoclegeddon is a good way to protest ^_^


"Why you blow me up?!!"

"because you're a Monocle wearing tard..."

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Waiting eagerly.

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Originally by: Jade Cargo

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Quite frankly people are waaaay too aggressive, arrogant and flat out rude just because they hide behind the anonymity of the interwebz. It's not hard to be even mildly polite. Moar permabans pls.

Seriously though - if you think this is an acceptable way to converse with a complete stranger, then you may want to reset your opinion of 'acceptable'. I believe the term is 'normalisation of deviance'. It isn't acceptable. Not even close. And let's not try to debate whether it was a 'real life threat' or not. It's just plain wrong.

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I have the belief that the core, base character of a person is revealed through this anonymity. It helps me discern whom I would not rather to get too close to in-game or out.

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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Originally by: Cipher Jones

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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Originally by: Jak Silverheart

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Yup it was banned in favor of the Monoclegeddon.

I have a list of 12 monocle wearers who I've confirmed owned them, not just some people who say they own it but people who actively wear them. And I am willing to sell them to you for a price, which will get you ahead of the game on this event.

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This is actually a good idea

Monoclegeddon is a good way to protest ^_^


"Why you blow me up?!!"

"because you're a Monocle wearing tard..."

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Waiting eagerly.

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You must feel super safe and warm and fuzzy, what if that was to change and suddenly you explode and the last scenes you see in your pod is a late arrival of concord after your lovely expensive faction fitted ship has been destroyed. Then someone pods you for the lulz and destroys your expensive implants, god damn all that wasted real life money, it must suck to be you.

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Originally by: Dirk Magnum

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35k EHP Hulk requires more than one alpha Battleship to destroy even though you can only online like one laser. I offer this advice free of charge knowing full well that Hulk pilots neither view the forum nor know how to troll-fit a ship.

I look forward eagerly to the next Hulkageddon.

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Originally by: Alaura Aquila

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I get the feeling all these changes might have something to do with the liaison that CCP is having with Sony.

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There was no death threat, so CCP lied again.
The permaban was for refusing to bow down and submit, I say it was well earned in the sense that Helicity earned his badge of freedom and courage in the face (or the facelessness) of tyranny.

Indeed if CCP (no need to personalize the Beast by naming the GM who did the deed) hadn't lied and instead had just claimed the unilateral right to ban whoever they choose, this would have been much less aggravating to lovers of freedom.

Yes he acts like a kid on a high horse, so what ? He did more than most wise-arses here.

As for being an organizer of griefing and being payed in kind by karma, very well. But EVE thrives on the publicity procured by mass griefing which makes the news in the gaming industry and brings more customers. You want these new customers to come here and learn that the dudes who did the deeds that fascinated them into giving the game a try, were banned under deceitful motives for speaking up to the big bad ice lizard aliens running the show ?

When did CCP speak up to say "we are not a game where griefing is encouraged" ?
In that sense, HB was not only a part of the community but one CCP cashed on willingly and admittedly.
Hulkageddon made the news, didnt it ?
Each time a big scam made the news, did CCP condemn it? No, they said "we like being the game where this is possible".
Now what ?
Double language.

Who's the carebear whiner here? Is it HB or the staff who banned him ?
Think about it.
Karma (the simple working of the law of action and reaction) does work for everyone, HB got his share, CCP is getting its own as well.

I say good for everyone involved.

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Originally by: WeirdNoise

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There was no death threat, so CCP lied again.
The permaban was for refusing to bow down and submit, I say it was well earned in the sense that Helicity earned his badge of freedom and courage in the face (or the facelessness) of tyranny.

Indeed if CCP (no need to personalize the Beast by naming the GM who did the deed) hadn't lied and instead had just claimed the unilateral right to ban whoever they choose, this would have been much less aggravating to lovers of freedom.

Yes he acts like a kid on a high horse, so what ? He did more than most wise-arses here.

As for being an organizer of griefing and being payed in kind by karma, very well. But EVE thrives on the publicity procured by mass griefing which makes the news in the gaming industry and brings more customers. You want these new customers to come here and learn that the dudes who did the deeds that fascinated them into giving the game a try, were banned under deceitful motives for speaking up to the big bad ice lizard aliens running the show ?

When did CCP speak up to say "we are not a game where griefing is encouraged" ?
In that sense, HB was not only a part of the community but one CCP cashed on willingly and admittedly.
Hulkageddon made the news, didnt it ?
Each time a big scam made the news, did CCP condemn it? No, they said "we like being the game where this is possible".
Now what ?
Double language.

Who's the carebear whiner here? Is it HB or the staff who banned him ?
Think about it.
Karma (the simple working of the law of action and reaction) does work for everyone, HB got his share, CCP is getting its own as well.

I say good for everyone involved.

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You people act as if CCP is some government. It's a private enterprise. They can do whatever they want within the terms of the contract you signed with them. There is no such thing as civil rights. If you don't like it, don't pay for it!

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I'd like to remind people you're a human being and have rights and are never tied to some stupid ****ing contract that says you can not sell what YOU worked for in this game. Everything in this game you own is your property since you have worked for it, you did not code it into the game but you worked for those items and they do not belong to CCP since you paid them to use their servers and that means anything you created belongs to you not them.

You want to ****ing have a go at what I just said ccp then lets go then...

I'm a human being that is ****ed off of being ****ing over and stood on by company's who simple think they are above me, well you're not above me and you will never be above me. Everything in eve on my account belongs to ****ing me since I paid for that, I paid to access your servers and then create content for my self, you do not own that content I'm sorry but you don't, you did not sit there for hours at a time to earn it dumbasses...

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Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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I'd like to remind people you're a human being and have rights and are never tied to some stupid ****ing contract that says you can not sell what YOU worked for in this game. Everything in this game you own is your property since you have worked for it, you did not code it into the game but you worked for those items and they do not belong to CCP since you paid them to use their servers and that means anything you created belongs to you not them.

You want to ****ing have a go at what I just said ccp then lets go then...

I'm a human being that is ****ed off of being ****ing over and stood on by company's who simple think they are above me, well you're not above me and you will never be above me. Everything in eve on my account belongs to ****ing me since I paid for that, I paid to access your servers and then create content for my self, you do not own that content I'm sorry but you don't, you did not sit there for hours at a time to earn it dumbasses...

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Wish I had your client without the "Accept these terms" button when you first installed EVE.

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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I'd like to remind people you're a human being and have rights and are never tied to some stupid ****ing contract that says you can not sell what YOU worked for in this game. Everything in this game you own is your property since you have worked for it, you did not code it into the game but you worked for those items and they do not belong to CCP since you paid them to use their servers and that means anything you created belongs to you not them.

You want to ****ing have a go at what I just said ccp then lets go then...

I'm a human being that is ****ed off of being ****ing over and stood on by company's who simple think they are above me, well you're not above me and you will never be above me. Everything in eve on my account belongs to ****ing me since I paid for that, I paid to access your servers and then create content for my self, you do not own that content I'm sorry but you don't, you did not sit there for hours at a time to earn it dumbasses...

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Originally by: Barakkus

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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I'd like to remind people you're a human being and have rights and are never tied to some stupid ****ing contract that says you can not sell what YOU worked for in this game. Everything in this game you own is your property since you have worked for it, you did not code it into the game but you worked for those items and they do not belong to CCP since you paid them to use their servers and that means anything you created belongs to you not them.

You want to ****ing have a go at what I just said ccp then lets go then...

I'm a human being that is ****ed off of being ****ing over and stood on by company's who simple think they are above me, well you're not above me and you will never be above me. Everything in eve on my account belongs to ****ing me since I paid for that, I paid to access your servers and then create content for my self, you do not own that content I'm sorry but you don't, you did not sit there for hours at a time to earn it dumbasses...

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Can I haz ur stuffz pls?

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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Originally by: Barakkus

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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I'd like to remind people you're a human being and have rights and are never tied to some stupid ****ing contract that says you can not sell what YOU worked for in this game. Everything in this game you own is your property since you have worked for it, you did not code it into the game but you worked for those items and they do not belong to CCP since you paid them to use their servers and that means anything you created belongs to you not them.

You want to ****ing have a go at what I just said ccp then lets go then...

I'm a human being that is ****ed off of being ****ing over and stood on by company's who simple think they are above me, well you're not above me and you will never be above me. Everything in eve on my account belongs to ****ing me since I paid for that, I paid to access your servers and then create content for my self, you do not own that content I'm sorry but you don't, you did not sit there for hours at a time to earn it dumbasses...

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Can I haz ur stuffz pls?

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No you can not, I paid for my characters, for years they belong to ME not CCP, my account belongs to me i ****ing paid for it, I paid for the game and account and it belongs to me not them.

You sir are just a dumbass not prepared to stand up for your rights as a human on this free earth.

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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I'd like to remind people you're a human being and have rights and are never tied to some stupid ****ing contract that says you can not sell what YOU worked for in this game. Everything in this game you own is your property since you have worked for it, you did not code it into the game but you worked for those items and they do not belong to CCP since you paid them to use their servers and that means anything you created belongs to you not them.

You want to ****ing have a go at what I just said ccp then lets go then...

I'm a human being that is ****ed off of being ****ing over and stood on by company's who simple think they are above me, well you're not above me and you will never be above me. Everything in eve on my account belongs to ****ing me since I paid for that, I paid to access your servers and then create content for my self, you do not own that content I'm sorry but you don't, you did not sit there for hours at a time to earn it dumbasses...

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Well i'd say thats news to me but since they are releasing dust on the PS, I'd think they have indeed sold their soles so to speak. The moment CCP stand along side with sony is the moment I delete all my characters because sony are an evil company that actually kills people that speak out against them...

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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No you can not, I paid for my characters, for years they belong to ME not CCP, my account belongs to me i ****ing paid for it, I paid for the game and account and it belongs to me not them.

You sir are just a dumbass not prepared to stand up for your rights as a human on this free earth.

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Originally by: Nova Kira

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Sorry, but you are dead wrong. EULA and TOS for nearly every MMO clearly state that any in-game items, including currency, ships, modules and even characters, all belong to CCP. You don't own a single thing in-game.

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This is why CCP is able to ban anyone for any reason, subjective or not, and you won't be able to sue. If I were you, I'd learn to read a contract before you agree to it's terms, otherwise, you look like an idiot, since you have legally acknowledged that you have read and fully understand the terms and conditions, yet you come to the forums and cry about what you obviously do not comprehend due to sheer incompetence on your part.

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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Originally by: Barakkus

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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I'd like to remind people you're a human being and have rights and are never tied to some stupid ****ing contract that says you can not sell what YOU worked for in this game. Everything in this game you own is your property since you have worked for it, you did not code it into the game but you worked for those items and they do not belong to CCP since you paid them to use their servers and that means anything you created belongs to you not them.

You want to ****ing have a go at what I just said ccp then lets go then...

I'm a human being that is ****ed off of being ****ing over and stood on by company's who simple think they are above me, well you're not above me and you will never be above me. Everything in eve on my account belongs to ****ing me since I paid for that, I paid to access your servers and then create content for my self, you do not own that content I'm sorry but you don't, you did not sit there for hours at a time to earn it dumbasses...

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Can I haz ur stuffz pls?

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No you can not, I paid for my characters, for years they belong to ME not CCP, my account belongs to me i ****ing paid for it, I paid for the game and account and it belongs to me not them.

You sir are just a dumbass not prepared to stand up for your rights as a human on this free earth.

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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You must feel super safe and warm and fuzzy, what if that was to change and suddenly you explode ...

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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... and the last scenes you see in your pod is a late arrival of concord ...

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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... after your lovely expensive faction fitted ship ...

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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... has been destroyed. Then someone pods you for the lulz and destroys your expensive implants, ...

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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... god damn all that wasted real life money, it must suck to be you.

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Originally by: Romar Family

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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You must feel super safe and warm and fuzzy, what if that was to change and suddenly you explode ...

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You seem to think everyone who would buy from the NEX would be a toothless carebear...

Originally by: LittleTerror

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... and the last scenes you see in your pod is a late arrival of concord ...

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...living in highsec...

Originally by: LittleTerror

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... after your lovely expensive faction fitted ship ...

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... having no grasp of metagame mechanics ...
... would care about ISK ...

Originally by: LittleTerror

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... has been destroyed. Then someone pods you for the lulz and destroys your expensive implants, ...

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... again care about ISK ...

Interesting look into your psyche, thanks...

Originally by: LittleTerror

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... god damn all that wasted real life money, it must suck to be you.

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Real life money items don't get destroyed when podded...

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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Originally by: Barakkus

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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I'd like to remind people you're a human being and have rights and are never tied to some stupid ****ing contract that says you can not sell what YOU worked for in this game. Everything in this game you own is your property since you have worked for it, you did not code it into the game but you worked for those items and they do not belong to CCP since you paid them to use their servers and that means anything you created belongs to you not them.

You want to ****ing have a go at what I just said ccp then lets go then...

I'm a human being that is ****ed off of being ****ing over and stood on by company's who simple think they are above me, well you're not above me and you will never be above me. Everything in eve on my account belongs to ****ing me since I paid for that, I paid to access your servers and then create content for my self, you do not own that content I'm sorry but you don't, you did not sit there for hours at a time to earn it dumbasses...

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Can I haz ur stuffz pls?

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No you can not, I paid for my characters, for years they belong to ME not CCP, my account belongs to me i ****ing paid for it, I paid for the game and account and it belongs to me not them.

You sir are just a dumbass not prepared to stand up for your rights as a human on this free earth.

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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Originally by: Barakkus

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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I'd like to remind people you're a human being and have rights and are never tied to some stupid ****ing contract that says you can not sell what YOU worked for in this game. Everything in this game you own is your property since you have worked for it, you did not code it into the game but you worked for those items and they do not belong to CCP since you paid them to use their servers and that means anything you created belongs to you not them.

You want to ****ing have a go at what I just said ccp then lets go then...

I'm a human being that is ****ed off of being ****ing over and stood on by company's who simple think they are above me, well you're not above me and you will never be above me. Everything in eve on my account belongs to ****ing me since I paid for that, I paid to access your servers and then create content for my self, you do not own that content I'm sorry but you don't, you did not sit there for hours at a time to earn it dumbasses...

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Can I haz ur stuffz pls?

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No you can not, I paid for my characters, for years they belong to ME not CCP, my account belongs to me i ****ing paid for it, I paid for the game and account and it belongs to me not them.

You sir are just a dumbass not prepared to stand up for your rights as a human on this free earth.

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Originally by: LittleTerror

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A guy sued the doctors and hospital for circumcising him when he was too young to even decide if he would want that. That is the power people actually have if they stop and turn round and tell people to **** off because if you get down to it you are actually being shafted all the way through you life and you just allow it due to some micky mouse contract that does not stand in court if you have a brain.

In debt of ú3000 or more? write it off, like srsly what can they do? Nothing that's what, reclaim your money and live a better life.

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Originally by: Anne Qirna

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Glad it's over but isn't it strange tghat we complained about it for years. But until some of us miners openly talked of witholding subcriptions for the month of hulkageddon nothinbg was done.

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Originally by: Garia666

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its not okay to treathen someone in anyway.

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Originally by: Kengutsi Akira

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Helicity "IRL threatened" a CCP employee (told them to diaf) and was permabanned

Guess she was what was holding it together

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Originally by: Indy Rider

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Edited by: Indy Rider on 05/09/2011 11:04:53

Originally by: Kengutsi Akira

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Helicity "IRL threatened" a CCP employee (told them to diaf) and was permabanned

Guess she was what was holding it together

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He was since unbanned but hasn't returned to eve.

Proof

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