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Uglavitch Nefrex Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:17:00 - [31] Space Vampires take over sov in 0.0 I can see it now. They can buy teeth upgrades on the NEX market for only 80000 aurum.
Realdoll1	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:17:00 - [32] Originally by: Khamelean Originally by: Realdoll1 Originally by: CCP Wrangler One of the big benefits of MMO's is that we can keep updating it as long as people pay us to do it. EVE today is much bigger, end even better looking, than EVE was in 2003. Thats a lie and ur a hypocrite. We've been paying you for years to develop EVE but your company has spent every penny(and then some to the brink of bankruptcy) developing OTHER games. Where do you find it in yourself to continue lying to your customers. Please identify the error in my statements and I'll gladly explain. SJ SJ Where do YOU find it in yourself to lie on the forums?
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:18:00 - [33] Originally by: Uglavitch Nefrex Space Vampires take over sov in 0.0 I can see it now. They can buy teeth upgrades on the NEX market for only 80000 aurum. I guess the British will dominate 0.0 then g Yeah baby yeah
General Xenophon	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:19:00 - [34] Originally by: Khamelean You describe Dust as life limited, but i have to disagree. If your mean limited by the lifespan of the console, there is no reason why it couldn't be ported to the PS4 when it arrives. We are talking about CCP here... how long did it take them to get Eve out for Mac let alone port something to another console?
Ovella	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:21:00 - [35] Originally by: Khamelean Originally by: Miilla Yeah they're going to spend how many millions of dollars on a new hardware room? LOL I hear CCP are loaded with spare cash atm. If your so convinced that all CCP's development efforts are directed at WoD, why would they cripple it's release by forcing it to share already overloaded servers? Your conspiracy theories make no sense. At least be consistent with your distrust and speculation. Shrugs Eve can choke on one blade on the end of it's "commertial life" for all they care, they'll have a new shiny emo MMO instead. How's that for a theory?
Eclorc	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:21:00 - [36] Ok, enough trolling (please!) ... lol, on these forums? yeah... I can dream. Some hint or clue as to what may be on the cards, re: server (re)allocation for WoD and how this will effect Eve would be of interest to both trolls and to less serious posters alike.
General Xenophon	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:23:00 - [37] Edited by: General Xenophon on 30/06/2011 17:23:32 Originally by: CCP Wrangler One of the big benefits of MMO's is that we can keep updating it as long as people pay us to do it. EVE today is much bigger, end even better looking, than EVE was in 2003. To be honest I think it was more fun in 2006 than it is now. Better looking doesn't imply 'better' game. Yea there are cool features, yea it looks cool, but there's so much going wrong with it that isn't even seemingly to be addressed or worked on it's ridiculous. If I wanted eye candy in a game I wouldn't pay 15 a month for it. I want content and a game that stands on its own for being awesome! Not some shiny object I get the 'privilege' to log in to stare at, as long as I'm paying for it... Unless there's strippers. AUG those plz.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:24:00 - [38] Originally by: General Xenophon Originally by: CCP Wrangler One of the big benefits of MMO's is that we can keep updating it as long as people pay us to do it. EVE today is much bigger, end even better looking, than EVE was in 2003. To be honest I think it was more fun in 2006 than it is now. Better looking doesn't imply 'better' game. Yea there are cool features, yea it looks cool, but there's so much going wrong with it that isn't even seemingly to be addressed or worked on it's ridiculous. If I wanted eye candy in a game I wouldn't pay 15 a month for it. I want content and a game that stands on its own for being awesome! Not some shiny object I get the 'privilege' to log into as long as I'm paying for it... Don't you get it? BOOSTing REVENUES is TOP PRIORITY now. Not features that won't boost revenues.
Snake Scofield	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:26:00 - [39] I should imagine it's simple. If eve is profitable to run it'll run. I for one will gladly support vanity only MT, increased subscription cost and paid expansions to keep playing eve.
Takseen	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:28:00 - [40] Originally by: Snake Scofield I should imagine it's simple. If eve is profitable to run it'll run. I for one will gladly support vanity only MT, increased subscription cost and paid expansions to keep playing eve. But they don't need vanity MT or increased subs to maintain or even develop Eve. That extra money is for developing their 2 new games.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:29:00 - [41] Originally by: Snake Scofield I should imagine it's simple. If eve is profitable to run it'll run. I for one will gladly support vanity only MT, increased subscription cost and paid expansions to keep playing eve. Incase you forgot their target metrics for per player spending on eve. Increasing subscriptions to $250 PERM ONTH MINIMUM PER PLAYER. Lets not forget their leadership targets. WoD will get priority. Eve is that 2nd child that begs for attention.
Khamelean	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:33:00 - [42] Originally by: Realdoll1 Please identify the error in my statements and I'll gladly explain. Quote: We've been paying you for years to develop EVE but your company has spent every penny(and then some to the brink of bankruptcy) developing OTHER games. Every penny? Really? Dominion Tyranis Incursion Incarna turret system renovation carbonio and bluenet: next level network technology gridlock, monikers, and cpu-per-user Thats just some of the dev blogs on the first page. You could argue that your not a fan of some of any of these things, but to say the CCP is not spending resources on Eve is a bold faced lie.
Tam Althor	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:35:00 - [43] Originally by: CCP Wrangler One of the big benefits of MMO's is that we can keep updating it as long as people pay us to do it. EVE today is much bigger, end even better looking, than EVE was in 2003. But when you **** off enough of the customers the way CCP has been doing, your product life gets much shorter.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:37:00 - [44] Edited by: Miilla on 30/06/2011 17:37:56 Originally by: Khamelean Originally by: Realdoll1 Please identify the error in my statements and I'll gladly explain. Quote: We've been paying you for years to develop EVE but your company has spent every penny(and then some to the brink of bankruptcy) developing OTHER games. Every penny? Really? Dominion Tyranis Incursion Incarna turret system renovation carbonio and bluenet: next level network technology gridlock, monikers, and cpu-per-user Thats just some of the dev blogs on the first page. You could argue that your not a fan of some of any of these things, but to say the CCP is not spending resources on Eve is a bold faced lie. And all these core things can be used on their other MMO product. Eve is a testing ground for MT, for Carbon, for load balanding, for everything really. Those little expansions you seen are really little, oh some new AI script, big deal, Live events got canned, and became a script called Incursions. Cheaper to replace somebody's time with a small script. Yeah lets talk about Incarna expansion, it is a Trojan Horse for one sole purpose, A Microtransaction shop to BOOST revenue. Great expansion, it was focused on greatly (the shop part).
Snake Scofield	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:40:00 - [45] Originally by: Takseen Originally by: Snake Scofield I should imagine it's simple. If eve is profitable to run it'll run. I for one will gladly support vanity only MT, increased subscription cost and paid expansions to keep playing eve. But they don't need vanity MT or increased subs to maintain or even develop Eve. That extra money is for developing their 2 new games. Of course eve is going to fund future projects for CCP. You think Blizzard pulled WoW out of a hat without Warcraft/Starcraft funding? You expect CCP to just stand by and watch eve stagnate and die over time as it will. Theres a lot more competition now than 8 years ago. Sure its got a niche market but other developers will be constantly planning on how to tap it, thats just the way it is. Sooner or later there will be some real competition for eve. Sure Dust isn't going to be that great long term. WoD stands a chance at turning a profit. All I can hope is that WoD is successful and gives CCP the diversity it needs.
Takseen	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:42:00 - [46] Calling the Team Gridlock load balancing team a testbed for technology for their new games is unfair. 0.0 residents had been screaming about lag for months, and they were set up in response to that demand. And they've apparently made a lot of progress too.
Realdoll1	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:43:00 - [47] Originally by: Khamelean Originally by: Realdoll1 Please identify the error in my statements and I'll gladly explain. Quote: We've been paying you for years to develop EVE but your company has spent every penny(and then some to the brink of bankruptcy) developing OTHER games. Every penny? Really? Dominion Tyranis Incursion Incarna turret system renovation carbonio and bluenet: next level network technology gridlock, monikers, and cpu-per-user Thats just some of the dev blogs on the first page. You could argue that your not a fan of some of any of these things, but to say the CCP is not spending resources on Eve is a bold faced lie. Pro-tip: you'll get further in life and maybe earn a friend or two if you grasp the basic concept that you cant take everything people say literally. Any other arguments youd like me to embarass you over? SJ
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:43:00 - [48] Originally by: Takseen Calling the Team Gridlock load balancing team a testbed for technology for their new games is unfair. 0.0 residents had been screaming about lag for months, and they were set up in response to that demand. And they've apparently made a lot of progress too. It is practice and learning experiences for the future MMO's scalability. Solve the problems now, use that later so you don't get those problems on the prize product.
Khamelean	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:44:00 - [49] Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 30/06/2011 17:37:56 Originally by: Khamelean Originally by: Realdoll1 Please identify the error in my statements and I'll gladly explain. Quote: We've been paying you for years to develop EVE but your company has spent every penny(and then some to the brink of bankruptcy) developing OTHER games. Every penny? Really? Dominion Tyranis Incursion Incarna turret system renovation carbonio and bluenet: next level network technology gridlock, monikers, and cpu-per-user Thats just some of the dev blogs on the first page. You could argue that your not a fan of some of any of these things, but to say the CCP is not spending resources on Eve is a bold faced lie. And all these core things can be used on their other MMO product. Eve is a testing ground for MT, for Carbon, for load balanding, for everything really. Those little expansions you seen are really little, oh some new AI script, big deal, Live events got canned, and became a script called Incursions. Cheaper to replace somebody's time with a small script. Yeah lets talk about Incarna expansion, it is a Trojan Horse for one sole purpose, A Microtransaction shop to BOOST revenue. Great expansion, it was focused on greatly (the shop part). Here's a crazy theory, Eve is a test bed...for EVE!!!
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:45:00 - [50] Originally by: Khamelean Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 30/06/2011 17:37:56 Originally by: Khamelean Originally by: Realdoll1 Please identify the error in my statements and I'll gladly explain. Quote: We've been paying you for years to develop EVE but your company has spent every penny(and then some to the brink of bankruptcy) developing OTHER games. Every penny? Really? Dominion Tyranis Incursion Incarna turret system renovation carbonio and bluenet: next level network technology gridlock, monikers, and cpu-per-user Thats just some of the dev blogs on the first page. You could argue that your not a fan of some of any of these things, but to say the CCP is not spending resources on Eve is a bold faced lie. And all these core things can be used on their other MMO product. Eve is a testing ground for MT, for Carbon, for load balanding, for everything really. Those little expansions you seen are really little, oh some new AI script, big deal, Live events got canned, and became a script called Incursions. Cheaper to replace somebody's time with a small script. Yeah lets talk about Incarna expansion, it is a Trojan Horse for one sole purpose, A Microtransaction shop to BOOST revenue. Great expansion, it was focused on greatly (the shop part). Here's a crazy theory, Eve is a test bed...for EVE!!! Yeah, keep trying to sell those used cars.
Eclorc	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:45:00 - [51] /me declares thread officially derailed. I give up lol
Takseen	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:46:00 - [52] Atleast the devs are back to posting again.
Snake Scofield	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:47:00 - [53] Originally by: Realdoll1 Pro-tip: you'll get further in life and maybe earn a friend or two if you grasp the basic concept that you cant take everything people say literally. Maybe people should extend the same courtesy to CCP.
Patient 2428190 DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:49:00 - [54] Edited by: Patient 2428190 on 30/06/2011 17:49:22 Twilight Online will be instanced and on multiple shards so it will fit into the lolfanatsy genre easier, so I don't think servers will be the problem. ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala.
Renan Ruivo Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:49:00 - [55] Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 30/06/2011 17:37:56 Originally by: Khamelean Originally by: Realdoll1 Please identify the error in my statements and I'll gladly explain. Quote: We've been paying you for years to develop EVE but your company has spent every penny(and then some to the brink of bankruptcy) developing OTHER games. Every penny? Really? Dominion Tyranis Incursion Incarna turret system renovation carbonio and bluenet: next level network technology gridlock, monikers, and cpu-per-user Thats just some of the dev blogs on the first page. You could argue that your not a fan of some of any of these things, but to say the CCP is not spending resources on Eve is a bold faced lie. And all these core things can be used on their other MMO product. Eve is a testing ground for MT, for Carbon, for load balanding, for everything really. Those little expansions you seen are really little, oh some new AI script, big deal, Live events got canned, and became a script called Incursions. Cheaper to replace somebody's time with a small script. Yeah lets talk about Incarna expansion, it is a Trojan Horse for one sole purpose, A Microtransaction shop to BOOST revenue. Great expansion, it was focused on greatly (the shop part). Not really. WiS is the test-bed. EVE has no physics. ____________ Originally by: CCP Guard Nobody gets to ruin EVE but us!
Kitsune Sakai	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:49:00 - [56] Originally by: Khamelean Here's a crazy theory, Eve is a test bed...for EVE!!! Yup, quite clearly crisp crackpot crazy. Vintage too,you just can't buy crazy that crisp anymore.
Foxy Rabibit	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:53:00 - [57] Originally by: Snake Scofield Originally by: Realdoll1 Pro-tip: you'll get further in life and maybe earn a friend or two if you grasp the basic concept that you cant take everything people say literally. Maybe people should extend the same courtesy to CCP. I do, trust me I do. Like when they say "No p2w" these days i automatically read "no p2w because you can't really win EVE, there will however be some "equalizers" for the cumps"
Raid'En	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:53:00 - [58] Miilla you're devaluating the sense behind the yellow color by using it for any post.
Takseen	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:56:00 - [59] Originally by: Patient 2428190 Edited by: Patient 2428190 on 30/06/2011 17:49:22 Twilight Online will be instanced and on multiple shards so it will fit into the lolfanatsy genre easier, so I don't think servers will be the problem. It'll also be instanced because by the looks of things, any more than half a dozen Incarna style avatars in one place would cause top of the line CPUs to melt:)
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.30 17:59:00 - [60] Originally by: Takseen Originally by: Patient 2428190 Edited by: Patient 2428190 on 30/06/2011 17:49:22 Twilight Online will be instanced and on multiple shards so it will fit into the lolfanatsy genre easier, so I don't think servers will be the problem. It'll also be instanced because by the looks of things, any more than half a dozen Incarna style avatars in one place would cause top of the line CPUs to melt:) They can always ditch Eve onto some Dell server they have laying around and then free up some nodes. Accept it, looking at black space just gets depressing, for ffs Eve doesn't have any spacial effects to brighten up space. Just DULL black. At least other Genre's have COLOUR.

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